Bruh bruuuh I love the way you explain things. The attention to detail and how you explain it really registers. Thank you for doing such an amazing job.
Aspect ratio changing movies are annoying when you’re watching it on a 150” screen, especially when you utilize screen masking to play 2:39:1 or 1:90:1 films. On this type of screen, once the aspect ratio is set to its masking, the aspect ratio must stay the same throughout the movie. I’m noticing more and more with Tom Cruise’s films, he likes to use aspect ratio changes films (Top Gun:Maverick, Mission Impossible:Fallout) and with this I just set the screen to its IMAX ratio. As these films switch ratios back and forth when the screen is 10 feet wide, the switching is very noticeable in a darkened theater room. Then when its playing in 2:39:1, those black bars are annoying. The great thing Disney+ does is offering the choice to pick the aspect ratio. I really wish studios would just stick with one aspect ratio versus jumping backing and forth. Of course, I also find that this a lot less noticeable when watching on a tv smaller, 80 inches or less. Hoping aspect ratio changes films is a fad. Come on film studios, just stick with one aspect ratio during the movie.
FYI...I've heard both the Bad Boys For Life and Jumanji IE DTS X tracks on a processor that is IMAX enhanced and one that is not and the DTS X track is equally impressive on the processor that is not IMAX certified. Having the certified IE products is not a necessity at all.
Most of the people are experiencing Dolby Atmos via streaming services. Correct if I'm wrong... but all streaming service are offering Atmos carried with Dolby Digital Plus at ~768kbps. There is huge difference when the same Atmos track is played from physical media carried with Dolby TrueHD at ~5000kbps. If Disney+ starts offering IMAX audio carried with DTS:X, the difference will be as huge as it is on physical media.
I think DTS-X is pretty good, but nowhere near as immersive as ATMOS. If people could hear ATMOS properly setup. . . there wouldn’t be a discussion. A full-range ATMOS system cannot be beaten.
IMAX Enhanced is simply a bass bump with surround speakers a bit hotter than Atmos. Don’t need the actual format to get the same effect. It completely screws up your bass management however so if you went through the trouble of a subwoofer crawl do NOT implement IE as it overrides your cross over settings and forces all speakers to run full range. So yes, IE is just raising the surround levels, you might as well do it yourself for Atmos, no magic here
I was hoping someone with your technical expertise would chime in. Thanks for this comment. Definitely something to consider for everyone out there. Now it’s just a matter of time with your technical prowess and my sense of humor that we’re destined to collab…eh? 😄🤘 Love your channel!
...and this is why back in the day, the DTS track was always better than the Dolby track on DVDs. It sounds better...even if it's "..just hotter.." My first experience with this was the Pearl Harbor DVD. As a result I would always look for the DTS track on DVDs/BluRay because it sounded clearler (louder) without having to crank the volume on the receiver all the time.
@@TriMuXx a simple turning up the volume about 4dB would have shown there really wasn’t a difference. I had dtsMA and Dolby TrueHD versions of The Incredible Hulk years ago. The dts version was 4dB louder because it didn’t have the default Dolby setting of dialog normalization. Once the volume was adjusted they were indistinguishable from one another. dts has always been a day late and a dollar short. dts:X IMAX Enhanced is a gimmick and there was no reason we needed it. Wouldn’t surprise me if dts is intentionally castrating the bass on non dts:X IMAX processors.
@@cwhitchblu Interesting. My experience with Dolby TrueHD is that the voices are inaudible or the track lowers all of the other sounds just so the voice can be heard, but in DTS HDMA I was able to clearly hear voices without the other sounds lowering, etc. Even if I cranked the volume up on the Dolby TrueHD track (Which I think is VERY close to DTS HDMA and a great codec as well) I hear the voices less than I would on the DTS HDMA track with the same movie. Bass on DTS HDMA tracks shake the roof of my house so I dunno about it lacking in bass.
@@TriMuXx Dolby does y have some features built-in that automatically enable DRC, dynamic range compression. I turn all these off in my AVR. You have to typically be running a Dolby track to get access these settings. In the default Auto mode it uses the tracks encoded DRC level that is typically High which could have the effect you’re describing. Try turning the feature off all together.
I just watched Spider Man Far From Home on Bravia Core last night. My receiver showed IMAX Enhanced DTSX. My ears are trained to Dolby Atmos, which I like a lot. IMAX Enhanced DTSX sounds fuller than Atmos. It was like I turned on Dynamic Volume on my receiver, but I didn’t. I don’t know whether I like it better than Atmos. I wish more titles are available in it, beyond those owned by Sony and Disney.
And Ealan Osborne strikes again...man I was like yo a 38min video on just IMAX Enhanced discussion? I poured myself a cup of coffee push play and 38 minutes later I realized I didn't even get a refill because I was totally engrossed and well-informed with all of my questions answered. So ahhh thanks for that. So what I got from this is that hardware (tv/speakers) is not as important then the processing/source material of IMAX Enhanced stamp. From what I see is that Dolby Atmos(in 1st place) and DTS-X are the main leading competitors for at home theater audio consumption and IMAX to be teaming up with DTS-X is like making a pro audio signal a team seal 6 elite Squad signal. And with more content rolling out with this is just making it more competitive Yeah? The area I live in I am lucky to have access to a true IMAX 70 mm projector and screen, also a theater that turned one of there rooms into the Digital (lie)max and most recently we just got a Dolby Atmos Cinema. So having the opportunity to try and view films in the three different types of the large screen format is been really informative and helpful and so far for the Dolby Atmos Cinema is in the lead. Not that it is a competition because not everyone has access to many different types of formats. Your thoughts on this? And lastly like you said out of all the at home movies that have IMAX enhanced ( a beautiful day in the neighborhood) that was shot not only in my city/neighborhood but most of the interior scenes were shot around and inside my kids daycare. ✌friend and keep up the awesome work.
There are also some other IMAX Enhanced discs out there. Every Nolan 4K is IMAX Enhanced. Top Gun: Maverick is also IMAX Enhanced. Wonder Woman 1984 is IMAX Enhanced. Batman v Superman was remastered for IMAX Enhanced in the leadup to Zack Snyder’s Justice League. Lastly, the last two Rebuild of Evangelion anime movies are IMAX Enhanced in 4K UHD, but these releases are only available in Japan with no English dub or subtitles. The weird part about the Evangelion UHDs is that they only have 5.1 audio, like the Nolan UHDs. And despite being IMAX Enhanced, they are exclusively 2.35:1 and SDR. The Evangelion films are indeed mastered for an IMAX standard, and the LPCM 5.1 audio is mixed as an IMAX farfield. Marantz lists that IMAX DTS 5.1/7.1 is a standard. Studio Khara listed that the last two Rebuild of Evangelion movies are IMAX Enhanced.
Full 15-perforation aka “15/70” IMAX film would actually require black bars on the sides of a 16:9 screen, as the ratio is 1.43:1. Seeing as true 15/70 projection locations seem to be dropping like flies, here’s hoping this “home IMAX certification” finally paves the way for full uncropped 1.43:1 digital releases of all those films.
Many of the Imax enhanced titles that are not on Disney Plus are on Sony’s Bravia streaming. Unfortunately the platform is still a little buggy and often freezes during streaming, an annoyance that seems to get fixed after stopping and starting the movie several times. Once it goes the picture and image are fantastic. The first Ghostbusters movie you could almost think it was recently made, it’s that good. The problem is that the majority of the titles require purchase with a Sony credit, who gives you a few credits 5-10 when you purchase a Sony device but you can’t purchase more credits. Very informative and helpful video. Thank you 🙏🏻
This is starting to harken back to the old days when there were Dolby Digital and dts laserdiscs and DVDs. I just hope they release these separate encodes at the same time of the general release version. Fingers crossed!🤞🏽
The big film cameras are still required to do true IMAX actually. The Lion King, Tenet, Wonder Woman 1984, and no time to die used it lately. Also the true aspect ratio is 1:43.1 not 1:90.1. Also suicide squid, spiderman no way home, Shanng chi, A writers odyssey, escape from mogadishu, black widow and eternals also used imax certified. cameras as well. Dune and Eternals where the first films shot without using the large IMAX film cameras that was able to fill the entire 1:43.1 screen size for some scenes in the larger IMAX theaters (Not even avengers did this). Also not TV shows use there Alexa imax digital camera. The opening sequence of mandalorian season 2 was shot in 1:90.1 as well as some scenes in Loki.
@@larryvaughn5843 Arri, Sony and Red have IMAX certified cameras meaning they use IMAX color science and has a sensor large enough to shoot 1:43.1Dune managed to fill 1:43.1 because it was printed on 70mm film and then back to digital afyer being remasted to fit the whole imax frame before returning digital again. My guess for eternal though judging by the chooesn scene that where 1:43. 1 is that it was created from scratch with cgi to fill 1:43. 1 nativly. Also one of the scenes was a hyperlapse so that scene could have effectively just been a hyperlapse using a Hasselblad or something in its timelapse mode. Before this as scene with transformers 4 IMAX did have and still does a digital in house camera designed by phantom that is made for 3D digital films. I don't know if it does full 1:43. 1 though because the 2 commerical films I know of that used it couldn't be shown in that aspect ration because the Lincoln center IMAX I usually go to was using old xenon 2k projectors at that time because it was transitioning to what it now uses IMAX DUAL GT LASER? I think the "Into the artic" and "Born to be wild" documentaries was shot with it.
It looks like the Marantz sr7013 also supports IMAX Enhanced, it was not mentioned in the list but in the description it says '9.2 Channel 4K Ultra HD AV Receiver with IMAX Enhanced, Dolby Atmos, Auro-3D, HEOS, AirPlay 2 and Alexa Voice Compatibility', so I should be ok.
You know you have to crank up the volume when the Mr Rogers theme song is on. It's a shame that "It's A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood" never got released in IMAX theatres.
Thank you so much for this video. A lot of the info out there was super unclear. I wasn't even aware that Disney stated the IMAX Enhanced audio was coming soon. My 3700H can decode this format, so I am definitely looking forward to more viewing options. Great content.
Some things you left out: not only does the aspect ratio change, but the picture quality/resolution goes way up when in imax mode (assuming actual imax 65 used ). I wouldnt be suprised if some of these multi aspect ratio movies you show are just cropping differently for more immersive action scenes, rather than an actual imax sequence. Other thing you missed in your soapbox rant, is that you should add that they can give us more incentive to buy physical copies by adding premium features that actually matter. Lord knows they have run out of special features in 4k era. Im sick of the premium features being walled off in streaming land. If i cant hold it in my hand i'm not interested at all. People that stream im sure for the most part could give a shit about any of this technical stuff. Only enthusiasts do, and they watch it on discs.
Great video Ealan! Question. I have a Denon S750H receiver that does NOT have IMAX Enhanced capability. It is connected in only a 5.1 speaker configuration. With a 5.1 setup it can still decode DTS:X but will only be able to output upmixes of DTS Neural:X or DTS Virtual:X. Which upmix mode should be used for being closest to real DTS:X? And, which upmix mode should be used if I do add ceiling speakers? Thanks!
I hope to get a hookup with Sony and Sonos soon. Otherwise, that’s a lotta money out of my pocket for both of those. So hopefully the hookups work out. 😄🤘
Going by what i researched so far i think its gonna be ht-a9+sw5>q950a>sonosarcfull but will have to wait for your opinion. To have imax enhanced dts x sound without seeing a soundbar would be a dream, but a nightmare for the wallet.
@@JL-ku7wo Yeah, I agree. At least from what I’ve heard and read. Sony hit it outta the park with the HT-A9, but I’m still trying to get my hands on one to personally review. 🤞
From an audio standpoint in general I think it's more DTS-X tracks usually just sound better. I don't think Imax Enhanced audio really adds much. I could be wrong. However the added real estate for video is awesome.
It seems like this is going to stay a gimmick when it comes to audio. I have a Denon receiver that got IMAX Enhanced with a firmware upgrade. I have one UHD disc that does have the DTS:X with IMAX Enhanced audio (right after IMAX Enhanced was anounced, a handful of IMAX documentary films came out with the audio and video). Can't say I could tell a quality difference...perhaps they mixed the audio to use more of the subwoofer. Not holding my breath about Disney having a streaming DTS:X IMAX: Fandango promised they were going to have it. Also, when it comes to TV...aspect ratio can be a gimmick as well since standard US "widescreen" film format is 1.85:1. The European standard Widescreen was 1.66:1--hence 1.78:1 was the accepted standard for widescreen TV. Then, cameras could be fitted with anamorphic lenses to eventually stretch out the picture to 2.35:1. Many digital cameras can record in either 1:85 or 2:35 aspect. I watch a lot of older movies that are either the old 1.34:1 aspect or 1.85:1 (or more recent comedies and such tend to be 1.85:1 as well). So varying aspect ratios aren't particularly an IMAX Enhanced feature. I remember when it was coming out that IMAX was advertising the video as doing their own HDR grading with HDR10+ (because that's a license free HDR standard, but is only on Samsung TVs): Dolby Vision has gotten so popular, this seems to definitely be dead.
Stanley Kubrick wanted the audience at home to have a full-screen experience. He went so far as filming in 4 by 3 first and cropping it for the cinema. I am a 100% with him. So what Disney did with both versions available deserves a lot of credit. The Blu Ray release should have done the same thing; or else they will fall behind streaming platforms even more than they are now.
Love your content like this! 🙂 Note, I am a physical media enthusiast with 1,500+ Blu-rays (450 of them are 4K Blu-rays) managed on my Zappiti NAS Server and player at full disc quality (no further compression). My receiver is a Marantz SR-6012, my TV is a Sony 77” A1E, and I have a 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos configuration with in-wall and in-ceiling speakers. Disney first frustrated me with no Dolby Vision on many of their 4K Blu-rays, and no IMAX ratio for Avengers Infinity War and Endgame. In general I would like to watch the much higher bandwidth video and uncompressed audio on my 4K Blu-rays, but it seems like most enthusiasts would live with some streaming video artifacts (from more compression / lower bandwidth) and lesser quality audio (with compressed Dolby Atmos) in favor of the Disney+ Dolby Vision and IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios. I assume you are in this camp, right?
Thank you!!! 😁 And wow! What an incredible collection you have! But I am in the camp of watching on physical media if I have it. I still get my ass off the couch, and pop in a disc, just because I know I’ll be getting the best. Unless I’m watching Avengers on Disney+ so I can get the IMAX aspect ratio. 😄
@@ealanosborne 1. To be clear, I am only talking about enthusiasts that watch Disney Plus over 4K Blu-Ray ONLY for the 32 MCU/Star Wars movies whose 4K disc does not have Dolby Vision or the 13 MCU movies whose 4K disc does not have IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios. Other than Infinity War and Endgame, you would watch the rest on disc? 2. Regarding IMAX Enhanced audio, if what this guy is saying (in the first few minutes of this video) is correct, it may explain why you are hearing more from the surround channels: th-cam.com/video/JxaAEj_6gI8/w-d-xo.html 3. I checked and FandangoNOW apparently no longer exists - it was bought/absorbed by VUDU. And it appears that all of the FandangoNOW IMAX Enhanced movies were ported to VUDU WITHOUT IMAX Enhanced with no word whether VUDU will ever support these IMAX Enhanced versions! 😞
It appears some people took the time to release versions that have the IMAX Enhance that is remuxed with the lossless audio from the 4K discs. It's a shame oh, that this is the only way to get the versions that Disney won't release.
So if the movies have The regular cinema wide screen and the IMAX enhanced experience, does that mean that when you’re watching it in the IMAX enhanced experience that you are getting a little bit of a pan and scan type of situation? I’m not sure how I feel about that. In the old days when you were watching a 4:3 aspect ratio movie that was changed from its regular wide screen it felt like you were missing a lot of the movie. I guess in this situation it’s way less than the old pan and scan that is cut off, but there’s still that little bit of me that’s wondering if the filmmaker didn’t purposefully frame things for the wider screen.
That's not how that works at all. These films are shot with IMAX cameras or an equivalent for either the 1:43:1 or the 1:90:1 aspect ratio, which is what IMAX screens use. But are frames in a way they they can be cropped and safely presented in 2:35:1. Example: th-cam.com/video/b_OgkjFQ-ZA/w-d-xo.html
@@wafflesforbrains9502 Interesting. So it is actually the other way around? The widescreen experience may be the one that is cropping the IMAX film. Is this always the case? Something tells me it is mixed and that it can go either way. As Ealan illustrated in the video these things tend to be pretty messy as far as adherence to specific rules.
I have Sony A90J. I always choose IMAX if i can in picture mode. Do you know if Sony supports IMAX sound as well? Last question. If i stream from the tv app and then send the sound to my reciver threw earc. Can I use IMAX image on the tv as picture srtting even thouh the receiver doesn't support IMAX?
Nice! I’ve learned a lot! I already have an AnthemAVM-90 and will start looking for an IMax Enhanced Big Screen! Thx!is there a listing for IMax Enhanced Big Screen TV’s? 1:07
I've had 5 receivers since 2000 for home theater. Dislike: onkyo back in 2000-2010 (has 5.1) runs hot which killed the HDMI output. Like: Denon 1912 (has 5.1) since 2010 runs warm Love: Denon AVR-X3700H (5. 2 independent sub outputs .4 atmos; Has atmos dts:x Imax) and Denon AVR-S760H (5. 2 identical sub outputs .2 atmos; Has atmos dts:x) since 2021 runs warm. I love streaming Spotify from my iPhone to Denon HEOS receivers and the 7 Denon HEOS standalone speakers around my house simultaneously for a party!
Not really clear on the audio part. Is the Imax version of audio just a quality standard for the DTS-X track or an actual diferent encoding format of DTS-X that only that list of receivers can decode?
I believe it’s some meta data added to the DTS:X track that only certain AVRs can decode/process. Because DTS:X and Atmos are meta data themselves, not actual audio signals.
@@ealanosborne But if DTS-X is already the 3D positioning metadata, like Atmos, I wonder what the IMAX is adding. Guess I have some reading to do. Unfortunately my AVR isn't up for the job. Thank you for the thorough video Ealan!
While playing through AirPlay wat should be the set up in AVR!?! Mutl ch. stereo or DD surround! In DD surround none of the speakers hv good output!! Is that normal!?!
maybe it’s just me but there seems to be a difference in sound when it comes to iMax DTS:X and IMAX Neu:X. The Neu:X version seems a lot louder than the DTS:X Version of the audio track put out there.
I have Sony A90J. I always choose IMAX if i can in picture mode. Do you know if Sony supports IMAX sound as well? Last question. If i stream from the tv app and then send the sound to my reciver threw earc. Can I use IMAX image on the tv as picture srtting even thouh the receiver doesn't support IMAX?
Yes, as long as you have the audio pass through setting on your TV set to Auto, if you’re playing a title that has IMAX sound, it should pass it thru to the receiver via eARC and the receiver will process it. And also yes! Just like if a gamer wants to game in 4K/120Hz refresh rate, but their receiver doesn’t support that, they can still get that ultimate gaming experience by plugging their XBOX Series X or PS5 straight into the TV with audio coming through eARC to the receiver. Same with streaming something from a TV app. 👍
@@ealanosborne thank you so much for clarify that! :) / I'm thinking about the smaller Marantz models sence i got a smaller room and efficient bookshelf as sorround. The Marantz Sr 6015 support IMAX and has a better auddesey processor. Maybe because it's 9.1 and not 7.1 as the lesser models. Maybe a requirement from IMAX to have that many speakers involved to provide the imax expirience. But it's a bit cheeky from Marantz that they didn't packed in everything in the cheaper models.
Sony X90 shows IMAX Certified. Disney + shows IMAX Certified yet while streaming Disney + IMAX version, the Sony TV shows DV light or DV dark as the only choices. Is IMAX only available via disc / not while streaming? When using the Sony Bravia service, IMAX Enhanced is shown
I’m not sure about the IMAX badge when watching Disney+. I know it’s mainly just the fact that it’s a 1.90:1 screen size ratio and maybe some better HDR settings, but maybe the metadata to actually SHOW the IMAX certified badge is only on Bravia Core content? 🤷♂️
@@ealanosborne got it, I think? All I know for sure is the Sony TV picture mode is Dolby Video while watching Disney + still looks and sound’s fine so what is IMAX Enhanced streaming? On Disney+ streaming the IMAX version, I cannot select the IMAX Enhanced mode.
@@ealanosborne I wanted the OLED or even the x95 mini led. Side by side, I’d pick either over the x90 but on its own the X90 is beautiful and on sale. New Sony Television models come out 3/1/23.
Yeah bro are you got most of my Phillips Dolby Atmos, DTS x DTS Play Fi (+) the first IMax certified Enhances setup Fidelio B97+ 2 Phillips speakers TAW6205 40 watt on sale 150 now
I love your point of view, but can you find a way to take care of the echo? You can even make a before/after video with it, and potentially get a sponsor of this tech to pay for it. Make a combo of deadening and refracting stuff. The very slight echo makes it difficult to hear if I'm listening to this like a podcast on the go. But bro, I love your review of items.
Btw, I think the Spider-Man movies are IMAX Enhanced on Bravia Core… I remember reading somewhere that Bravia Core was the ONLY place to see the Spider-Man movies in IMAX
Hey, bud! Have you heard any rumors on when Disney+ may have DTS:X sound in their IMAX enhanced titles? I checked the other day and they were all still Atmos sound. Also. I believe many of those titles you looked up are IMAX-enhanced in Bravia Core - Sony's own streaming service. Particularly the Spiderman stuff. Sadly I think you can still only get access to that service if you buy a Sony TV.
Yeah, that's correct about Sony's Bravia Core service. Some sort of deal Sony struck with IMAX. But sadly, no...I have not heard a word about the exact title that will feature IMAX Signature Sound by DTS. When new major titles are released, I always think, "Ohhh, is this the one?!" Only to be disappointed that it hasn't happened yet. 😆
I’ve been watching ur video on imax enhanced video. And im confused cause my new hisense u8g does both Dolby vision and imax enhanced. Remember u saying it’s one or the other not both imax enhanced plus Dolby vision. But my TV does both. So can u have both of them after all?
IMAX Enhanced is another unneeded licensed feature for home video equipment. It offers no improvement of the current video and audio format capabilities. IMAX Enhanced’s dts X is just adding a fixed center height object. This is nothing unique that the existing Dolby Atmos or dts:X could not have done. This whole thing was done so IMAX can get a royalty cut for movies presented in the IMAX format at home which is essentially 16:9 that we’ve been using for years. It’s a f’n joke. A big reason we’re not seeing many IMAX Enhanced discs is because the studios aren’t willing to pay the licensing fee. My copy of The Dark Knight plays the IMAX sequences just fine without the useless IMAX Enhanced licensing. Again IMAX AR at home is essentially 16:9 unless you want to go full true IMAX like Zack Snyder did with his Justice League where it was 1.43:1 looking more like a square with vertical black bars and again this was done without the useless licensing that IMAX is imposing on newer IMAX films for home viewing. You’re drinking the Kool-Aid.
I have the Costco version Sony TV XBR85X90CH (same as X900H). Should I be seeing a banner pop up that says “IMAX Enhanced” instead of just “HDR10”? My TV supposedly handles IMAX Enhanced content after an update, but I only see “HDR10” while playing IMAX Enhanced material, such as Space Station.
Nice video...I have the sony x90j and a denon s750h..The denon performs well and I enjoy Imax enhanced and Dts over Atmos..I get the audio on my denon and it reads "DTS X" but not "Imax DTS" the sounds amazing..just wondering is there a difference between sound DTS X vs Imax DTS X?
I don’t think the difference is going to be noticeable much. Maybe dialog is a tiny bit clearer? Or bass extension is a tiny bit fuller? But both DTS:X and IMAX DTS:X are phenomenal, IMO.
Another great video and intro to new websites, now I know the receiver I was thinking about buying is IMAX Enhanced. I am currently updating my 1990's 5.1 Dolby Digital home theater. I have kept my original Bose AM-5 Series 1 speakers and added the Denon AVR 3700H or Onkyo TX-RZ840 and 2 more for "height speakers" to make it a 5.1.2. Ultimately I plan to get the Emotivia Bas X 3 channel receiver to power the front sound stage, and 2 more Bose speakers to ultimately reach the 5.1.4 plateau.
@@ealanosborne Another quick question, as mentioned eariler I have the Onkyo TX-NR 696 currently I am running a 5.1.2. My question is can I use my zone 3 preout to add an amp and 2 more speakers to bring my system to a 5.1.4, or will those added speakers only work outside of my 5.1.2 system.
Only two type of theaters that are worth going to are IMAX Laser (4K projector with upgraded sound package, DTS) and Dolby Cinema (Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos).
Thanks again I had no clue about IMAX enhanced my Hisense u7g has it so very helpful I also subscribed to your channel I thought I heard it all but I always lean something new when I watch your channel
What does it mean for a TV to support IMAX Enhanced? Does that mean it supports all three components, just scale and picture, or just picture? If it means it will decode audio what happens when it passes decoded audio to a sound system that isn't IMAX Enhanced?
It’s a certification, like THX, so if you’re watching something in IMAX Enhanced, it’s supposedly the best picture quality possible on IMAX Enhanced certified TVs. And as far as sound, you would still need an IMAX Enhanced certified AVR to decode it properly.
Okay, let me back up - If it's an IMAX Enhanced certified TV, it CAN decode IMAX Enhanced audio (just like an Atmos certified TV can decode Atmos), but it can only pass that audio through to another IMAX Enhanced certified AVR or soundbar. I guess you can still watch something that's IMAX Enhanced just on the TV, but only listening through the TV speakers defeats the purpose. It would still sound really bad. You'll only benefit from an IMAX Enhanced audio signal if you have a full surround sound system with height speakers, etc.
@Ealan Osborne if the TV is decoding the audio signal (Atmos or IMAX) why would one need a certified receiver too? Since the receiver is receiving a decoded signal wouldn't it just send the audio to the correct channel (speaker)?
So I think some of that info is missing or is just outdated. Far from home and no way home both have imax aspect ratio on bcore. With that said I'm sure there maybe more but not sure
The mastered for farfield shouldn't change aything as this is all decided with the speaker distance settings in your AVR. The theaters don't have to deal with reflections like your home does and 12ft away is not far in comparison. I don't think there is any magic going on there but I could be wrong.
The IMAX Enhanced is mainly about the picture quality and aspect ratio on Bravia Core. The audio portion of IMAX Enhanced is tied to DTS:X, so that still has yet to make its debut through streaming. Disney+ is supposed to be the first to support “IMAX Signature Sound by DTS” which is what they are calling it. But they said this during CES in January 2023…and still no word on when it’s going to actually happen. 🤦♂️
Imax Enhanced is based in with DTS:X. Imax Enhanced will only be taken advantage of if someone has a DTS:X setup and a DTS:X avr & if the audio has not been watered down like Dolby Atmos is 90% of the time for years consumer market.
It's so funny how they list compatible AVRs yet they forgot to mention the Denon x4500h which is IMAX Enhanced....I guess they want people to buy their newer receivers so they only list the newer ones and not the older ones?
That’s possible, since they bought out Fandango. Which is great, since that’s where I have all my digital copies of movies. 🤘 Not sure if and when, though…
Why should a TV not be able to support DV and IMAX? If they pay for both certifications and comply to the specs, I see no reason for that to not happen: my current TV supports both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ that are competing dynamic HDR encodings. And, most of all, as far as I've understood, for TVs and speakers this will be just another certification (like THX) and not a specific format (like Dolby Vision and HDR10+) so, in theory, no specific hardware is needed. And provided that IMAX aspect ratio is even more similar to TVs 16:9 than usual widescreen, I don't see any reason why any tv should be able to show the video portion with the same quality of an "IMAX certified" TV. But, most likely, they will block that via some software gimmick to push programmed obsolescence. And I suspect that even the "IMAX Enhances DTS:X" will be nothing more than DTS:X with an IMAX certification.
No, I made a mistake about that. I make a correction in the description of the video. There are definitely TVs out there which do support both DV and IMAX. Whoops! 😄
The fact that again, so much of this imax enhanced content is incredibly hard to fin where I live or even worse, entirely unavailable, is literally an invitation to pirate content. Why would I not enjoy this amazing Imax Enhanced experience because these asshols gatekeep it behind paywalls or scarcity lol.
The part with near and far field is absolutely wrong. A speakers near field is defined by its chaotic Interference and so shall not be used as listening window. Also there is no Differenz, solely on the distance from speaker to listener, wich all might ve corrected in the time domain. Imax is only masterd in 7.0 so no lfe channel only full range speaker thats what it comes down to and its pretty useless for almost everybody…
The far field is when all the Impulses come together. Dolby atmos is also mixed for cinema but the difference is not the size of the room but the object count, wich is way higher than dolby atmos for home.
Watching the rubbish tv and films today have become really complicated and I’ve been running sound studios and have been playing with AVR amps since Dolby Pro-Logic first came out.Now you need a compatible TV and an AVR that decodes Dolby Vision,HDR 10+ Dolby Atmos,DTS X Pro,you need speakers all over the place..All this just to be able to play a DVD 4K BluRay which is generally a title we’ve seen before in various iterations.I have a THX AVR and A 5.1 setup with B&W Nautilus speakers that sounds great and I can watch the movie without driving myself insane with listening to an old movie because of hype.You spend 50,000 grand on a setup and Hope you can get a title or two.
MCU movies on Disney plus is a fraud when ony a few minutes of the movies are in a better aspect ratio (for 16:9 TV). Add in the bad streaming bandwidth and you got a great advertising stunt.
I dislike this program. Since it was introduced, Disney, WB etc (dune included) did not give the blu-ray discs IMAX. This is a major downgrade in every way, especially for 3D which requires the full height for maximum experience.
Bruh bruuuh I love the way you explain things. The attention to detail and how you explain it really registers. Thank you for doing such an amazing job.
I watched IMAX enhanced wow on Disney superb, unfortunately every time I put an IMAX on I get Dolby Digital,,,,Why ?
frfr on hood bruh, gang gang.
@@BerserkeR_031 😂 did you hit your head?
Aspect ratio changing movies are annoying when you’re watching it on a 150” screen, especially when you utilize screen masking to play 2:39:1 or 1:90:1 films. On this type of screen, once the aspect ratio is set to its masking, the aspect ratio must stay the same throughout the movie. I’m noticing more and more with Tom Cruise’s films, he likes to use aspect ratio changes films (Top Gun:Maverick, Mission Impossible:Fallout) and with this I just set the screen to its IMAX ratio. As these films switch ratios back and forth when the screen is 10 feet wide, the switching is very noticeable in a darkened theater room. Then when its playing in 2:39:1, those black bars are annoying. The great thing Disney+ does is offering the choice to pick the aspect ratio. I really wish studios would just stick with one aspect ratio versus jumping backing and forth. Of course, I also find that this a lot less noticeable when watching on a tv smaller, 80 inches or less. Hoping aspect ratio changes films is a fad. Come on film studios, just stick with one aspect ratio during the movie.
FYI...I've heard both the Bad Boys For Life and Jumanji IE DTS X tracks on a processor that is IMAX enhanced and one that is not and the DTS X track is equally impressive on the processor that is not IMAX certified. Having the certified IE products is not a necessity at all.
Most of the people are experiencing Dolby Atmos via streaming services. Correct if I'm wrong... but all streaming service are offering Atmos carried with Dolby Digital Plus at ~768kbps. There is huge difference when the same Atmos track is played from physical media carried with Dolby TrueHD at ~5000kbps. If Disney+ starts offering IMAX audio carried with DTS:X, the difference will be as huge as it is on physical media.
I think DTS-X is pretty good, but nowhere near as immersive as ATMOS. If people could hear ATMOS properly setup. . . there wouldn’t be a discussion. A full-range ATMOS system cannot be beaten.
IMAX Enhanced is simply a bass bump with surround speakers a bit hotter than Atmos. Don’t need the actual format to get the same effect. It completely screws up your bass management however so if you went through the trouble of a subwoofer crawl do NOT implement IE as it overrides your cross over settings and forces all speakers to run full range. So yes, IE is just raising the surround levels, you might as well do it yourself for Atmos, no magic here
I was hoping someone with your technical expertise would chime in. Thanks for this comment. Definitely something to consider for everyone out there.
Now it’s just a matter of time with your technical prowess and my sense of humor that we’re destined to collab…eh? 😄🤘 Love your channel!
...and this is why back in the day, the DTS track was always better than the Dolby track on DVDs. It sounds better...even if it's "..just hotter.."
My first experience with this was the Pearl Harbor DVD. As a result I would always look for the DTS track on DVDs/BluRay because it sounded clearler (louder) without having to crank the volume on the receiver all the time.
@@TriMuXx a simple turning up the volume about 4dB would have shown there really wasn’t a difference.
I had dtsMA and Dolby TrueHD versions of The Incredible Hulk years ago. The dts version was 4dB louder because it didn’t have the default Dolby setting of dialog normalization. Once the volume was adjusted they were indistinguishable from one another.
dts has always been a day late and a dollar short. dts:X IMAX Enhanced is a gimmick and there was no reason we needed it. Wouldn’t surprise me if dts is intentionally castrating the bass on non dts:X IMAX processors.
@@cwhitchblu Interesting. My experience with Dolby TrueHD is that the voices are inaudible or the track lowers all of the other sounds just so the voice can be heard, but in DTS HDMA I was able to clearly hear voices without the other sounds lowering, etc. Even if I cranked the volume up on the Dolby TrueHD track (Which I think is VERY close to DTS HDMA and a great codec as well) I hear the voices less than I would on the DTS HDMA track with the same movie. Bass on DTS HDMA tracks shake the roof of my house so I dunno about it lacking in bass.
@@TriMuXx Dolby does y have some features built-in that automatically enable DRC, dynamic range compression. I turn all these off in my AVR. You have to typically be running a Dolby track to get access these settings.
In the default Auto mode it uses the tracks encoded DRC level that is typically High which could have the effect you’re describing. Try turning the feature off all together.
I have a 77" Sony A80J OLED and on Bravia Core, you get the full IMAX enhanced experience. Aspect ratio and IMAX DTS X. It's pretty amazing!!
I just watched Spider Man Far From Home on Bravia Core last night. My receiver showed IMAX Enhanced DTSX. My ears are trained to Dolby Atmos, which I like a lot. IMAX Enhanced DTSX sounds fuller than Atmos. It was like I turned on Dynamic Volume on my receiver, but I didn’t. I don’t know whether I like it better than Atmos. I wish more titles are available in it, beyond those owned by Sony and Disney.
And Ealan Osborne strikes again...man I was like yo a 38min video on just IMAX Enhanced discussion? I poured myself a cup of coffee push play and 38 minutes later I realized I didn't even get a refill because I was totally engrossed and well-informed with all of my questions answered. So ahhh thanks for that.
So what I got from this is that hardware (tv/speakers) is not as important then the processing/source material of IMAX Enhanced stamp.
From what I see is that Dolby Atmos(in 1st place) and DTS-X are the main leading competitors for at home theater audio consumption and IMAX to be teaming up with DTS-X is like making a pro audio signal a team seal 6 elite Squad signal. And with more content rolling out with this is just making it more competitive Yeah?
The area I live in I am lucky to have access to a true IMAX 70 mm projector and screen, also a theater that turned one of there rooms into the Digital (lie)max and most recently we just got a Dolby Atmos Cinema. So having the opportunity to try and view films in the three different types of the large screen format is been really informative and helpful and so far for the Dolby Atmos Cinema is in the lead. Not that it is a competition because not everyone has access to many different types of formats. Your thoughts on this?
And lastly like you said out of all the at home movies that have IMAX enhanced ( a beautiful day in the neighborhood) that was shot not only in my city/neighborhood but most of the interior scenes were shot around and inside my kids daycare.
✌friend and keep up the awesome work.
There are also some other IMAX Enhanced discs out there.
Every Nolan 4K is IMAX Enhanced.
Top Gun: Maverick is also IMAX Enhanced.
Wonder Woman 1984 is IMAX Enhanced.
Batman v Superman was remastered for IMAX Enhanced in the leadup to Zack Snyder’s Justice League.
Lastly, the last two Rebuild of Evangelion anime movies are IMAX Enhanced in 4K UHD, but these releases are only available in Japan with no English dub or subtitles.
The weird part about the Evangelion UHDs is that they only have 5.1 audio, like the Nolan UHDs.
And despite being IMAX Enhanced, they are exclusively 2.35:1 and SDR.
The Evangelion films are indeed mastered for an IMAX standard, and the LPCM 5.1 audio is mixed as an IMAX farfield.
Marantz lists that IMAX DTS 5.1/7.1 is a standard.
Studio Khara listed that the last two Rebuild of Evangelion movies are IMAX Enhanced.
Full 15-perforation aka “15/70” IMAX film would actually require black bars on the sides of a 16:9 screen, as the ratio is 1.43:1. Seeing as true 15/70 projection locations seem to be dropping like flies, here’s hoping this “home IMAX certification” finally paves the way for full uncropped 1.43:1 digital releases of all those films.
Many of the Imax enhanced titles that are not on Disney Plus are on Sony’s Bravia streaming. Unfortunately the platform is still a little buggy and often freezes during streaming, an annoyance that seems to get fixed after stopping and starting the movie several times. Once it goes the picture and image are fantastic. The first Ghostbusters movie you could almost think it was recently made, it’s that good. The problem is that the majority of the titles require purchase with a Sony credit, who gives you a few credits 5-10 when you purchase a Sony device but you can’t purchase more credits. Very informative and helpful video. Thank you 🙏🏻
This is starting to harken back to the old days when there were Dolby Digital and dts laserdiscs and DVDs. I just hope they release these separate encodes at the same time of the general release version. Fingers crossed!🤞🏽
The big film cameras are still required to do true IMAX actually. The Lion King, Tenet, Wonder Woman 1984, and no time to die used it lately. Also the true aspect ratio is 1:43.1 not 1:90.1. Also suicide squid, spiderman no way home, Shanng chi, A writers odyssey, escape from mogadishu, black widow and eternals also used imax certified. cameras as well. Dune and Eternals where the first films shot without using the large IMAX film cameras that was able to fill the entire 1:43.1 screen size for some scenes in the larger IMAX theaters (Not even avengers did this). Also not TV shows use there Alexa imax digital camera. The opening sequence of mandalorian season 2 was shot in 1:90.1 as well as some scenes in Loki.
IMAX cameras do IMAX. They use larger than 35mm film. Are there digital IMAX cameras?
@@larryvaughn5843 Arri, Sony and Red have IMAX certified cameras meaning they use IMAX color science and has a sensor large enough to shoot 1:43.1Dune managed to fill 1:43.1 because it was printed on 70mm film and then back to digital afyer being remasted to fit the whole imax frame before returning digital again. My guess for eternal though judging by the chooesn scene that where 1:43. 1 is that it was created from scratch with cgi to fill 1:43. 1 nativly. Also one of the scenes was a hyperlapse so that scene could have effectively just been a hyperlapse using a Hasselblad or something in its timelapse mode. Before this as scene with transformers 4 IMAX did have and still does a digital in house camera designed by phantom that is made for 3D digital films. I don't know if it does full 1:43. 1 though because the 2 commerical films I know of that used it couldn't be shown in that aspect ration because the Lincoln center IMAX I usually go to was using old xenon 2k projectors at that time because it was transitioning to what it now uses IMAX DUAL GT LASER? I think the "Into the artic" and "Born to be wild" documentaries was shot with it.
It looks like the Marantz sr7013 also supports IMAX Enhanced, it was not mentioned in the list but in the description it says '9.2 Channel 4K Ultra HD AV Receiver with IMAX Enhanced, Dolby Atmos, Auro-3D, HEOS, AirPlay 2 and Alexa Voice Compatibility', so I should be ok.
Nice! Yeah, on their website, IMAX was just listing the most current version of AVRs. But that’s cool you’re all set! 😊🤘
You know you have to crank up the volume when the Mr Rogers theme song is on. It's a shame that "It's A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood" never got released in IMAX theatres.
IMAX enhanced is a picture grading technology as well. So, you can be IMAX enhanced without the changing aspect ratio.
Thank you so much for this video. A lot of the info out there was super unclear. I wasn't even aware that Disney stated the IMAX Enhanced audio was coming soon. My 3700H can decode this format, so I am definitely looking forward to more viewing options. Great content.
Sonos Jsut had an update where it can now encode DTS-X I have the arc I wonder if it utilizes up firing speakers as well
It should! 👍
Sorry to disappoint you. Sonos just implemented basic DTS. That's nowhere near DTS-X or Atmos.
Some things you left out: not only does the aspect ratio change, but the picture quality/resolution goes way up when in imax mode (assuming actual imax 65 used ). I wouldnt be suprised if some of these multi aspect ratio movies you show are just cropping differently for more immersive action scenes, rather than an actual imax sequence. Other thing you missed in your soapbox rant, is that you should add that they can give us more incentive to buy physical copies by adding premium features that actually matter. Lord knows they have run out of special features in 4k era. Im sick of the premium features being walled off in streaming land. If i cant hold it in my hand i'm not interested at all. People that stream im sure for the most part could give a shit about any of this technical stuff. Only enthusiasts do, and they watch it on discs.
Great video Ealan! Question. I have a Denon S750H receiver that does NOT have IMAX Enhanced capability. It is connected in only a 5.1 speaker configuration. With a 5.1 setup it can still decode DTS:X but will only be able to output upmixes of DTS Neural:X or DTS Virtual:X. Which upmix mode should be used for being closest to real DTS:X? And, which upmix mode should be used if I do add ceiling speakers? Thanks!
DTS Neural X all day! 😄 Now, and even when you add ceiling speakers. 🤘
@@ealanosborne Thanks!
@@ealanosborne actually DTS:X MSTR may be an option as well for DTS:X input signals. Go with MSTR or stick with Neural still? Thanks again.
@@DarkKnight-gw4gw oh…um, that’s a great question. My guess is that master means closest to the original source? The master? So I’d try that.
Dts X track dat comes with imax enhanced bluray, has more bit rate& depth
Wondering if your going to review the new Sony ht-a9 home theater speaker system? Perhaps compared it to the Sonos arc full system.. Thanks again .
I hope to get a hookup with Sony and Sonos soon. Otherwise, that’s a lotta money out of my pocket for both of those. So hopefully the hookups work out. 😄🤘
Going by what i researched so far i think its gonna be ht-a9+sw5>q950a>sonosarcfull but will have to wait for your opinion. To have imax enhanced dts x sound without seeing a soundbar would be a dream, but a nightmare for the wallet.
@@JL-ku7wo Yeah, I agree. At least from what I’ve heard and read. Sony hit it outta the park with the HT-A9, but I’m still trying to get my hands on one to personally review. 🤞
From an audio standpoint in general I think it's more DTS-X tracks usually just sound better. I don't think Imax Enhanced audio really adds much. I could be wrong. However the added real estate for video is awesome.
It seems like this is going to stay a gimmick when it comes to audio. I have a Denon receiver that got IMAX Enhanced with a firmware upgrade. I have one UHD disc that does have the DTS:X with IMAX Enhanced audio (right after IMAX Enhanced was anounced, a handful of IMAX documentary films came out with the audio and video). Can't say I could tell a quality difference...perhaps they mixed the audio to use more of the subwoofer. Not holding my breath about Disney having a streaming DTS:X IMAX: Fandango promised they were going to have it. Also, when it comes to TV...aspect ratio can be a gimmick as well since standard US "widescreen" film format is 1.85:1. The European standard Widescreen was 1.66:1--hence 1.78:1 was the accepted standard for widescreen TV. Then, cameras could be fitted with anamorphic lenses to eventually stretch out the picture to 2.35:1. Many digital cameras can record in either 1:85 or 2:35 aspect. I watch a lot of older movies that are either the old 1.34:1 aspect or 1.85:1 (or more recent comedies and such tend to be 1.85:1 as well). So varying aspect ratios aren't particularly an IMAX Enhanced feature. I remember when it was coming out that IMAX was advertising the video as doing their own HDR grading with HDR10+ (because that's a license free HDR standard, but is only on Samsung TVs): Dolby Vision has gotten so popular, this seems to definitely be dead.
Stanley Kubrick wanted the audience at home to have a full-screen experience. He went so far as filming in 4 by 3 first and cropping it for the cinema. I am a 100% with him. So what Disney did with both versions available deserves a lot of credit. The Blu Ray release should have done the same thing; or else they will fall behind streaming platforms even more than they are now.
Exactly! I need me some IMAX aspect ratios on all my Blu-rays, please!
Love your content like this! 🙂
Note, I am a physical media enthusiast with 1,500+ Blu-rays (450 of them are 4K Blu-rays) managed on my Zappiti NAS Server and player at full disc quality (no further compression). My receiver is a Marantz SR-6012, my TV is a Sony 77” A1E, and I have a 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos configuration with in-wall and in-ceiling speakers.
Disney first frustrated me with no Dolby Vision on many of their 4K Blu-rays, and no IMAX ratio for Avengers Infinity War and Endgame.
In general I would like to watch the much higher bandwidth video and uncompressed audio on my 4K Blu-rays, but it seems like most enthusiasts would live with some streaming video artifacts (from more compression / lower bandwidth) and lesser quality audio (with compressed Dolby Atmos) in favor of the Disney+ Dolby Vision and IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios. I assume you are in this camp, right?
Thank you!!! 😁 And wow! What an incredible collection you have!
But I am in the camp of watching on physical media if I have it. I still get my ass off the couch, and pop in a disc, just because I know I’ll be getting the best. Unless I’m watching Avengers on Disney+ so I can get the IMAX aspect ratio. 😄
@@ealanosborne 1. To be clear, I am only talking about enthusiasts that watch Disney Plus over 4K Blu-Ray ONLY for the 32 MCU/Star Wars movies whose 4K disc does not have Dolby Vision or the 13 MCU movies whose 4K disc does not have IMAX Enhanced aspect ratios. Other than Infinity War and Endgame, you would watch the rest on disc?
2. Regarding IMAX Enhanced audio, if what this guy is saying (in the first few minutes of this video) is correct, it may explain why you are hearing more from the surround channels: th-cam.com/video/JxaAEj_6gI8/w-d-xo.html
3. I checked and FandangoNOW apparently no longer exists - it was bought/absorbed by VUDU. And it appears that all of the FandangoNOW IMAX Enhanced movies were ported to VUDU WITHOUT IMAX Enhanced with no word whether VUDU will ever support these IMAX Enhanced versions! 😞
It appears some people took the time to release versions that have the IMAX Enhance that is remuxed with the lossless audio from the 4K discs. It's a shame oh, that this is the only way to get the versions that Disney won't release.
So if the movies have The regular cinema wide screen and the IMAX enhanced experience, does that mean that when you’re watching it in the IMAX enhanced experience that you are getting a little bit of a pan and scan type of situation?
I’m not sure how I feel about that. In the old days when you were watching a 4:3 aspect ratio movie that was changed from its regular wide screen it felt like you were missing a lot of the movie. I guess in this situation it’s way less than the old pan and scan that is cut off, but there’s still that little bit of me that’s wondering if the filmmaker didn’t purposefully frame things for the wider screen.
That's not how that works at all. These films are shot with IMAX cameras or an equivalent for either the 1:43:1 or the 1:90:1 aspect ratio, which is what IMAX screens use. But are frames in a way they they can be cropped and safely presented in 2:35:1.
Example: th-cam.com/video/b_OgkjFQ-ZA/w-d-xo.html
@@wafflesforbrains9502 Interesting. So it is actually the other way around? The widescreen experience may be the one that is cropping the IMAX film. Is this always the case? Something tells me it is mixed and that it can go either way. As Ealan illustrated in the video these things tend to be pretty messy as far as adherence to specific rules.
Sony TV'S are both IE and DV certified
Yeah, I put that as a correction in the description. Whoops! 😄
I have Sony A90J. I always choose IMAX if i can in picture mode. Do you know if Sony supports IMAX sound as well?
Last question. If i stream from the tv app and then send the sound to my reciver threw earc. Can I use IMAX image on the tv as picture srtting even thouh the receiver doesn't support IMAX?
Another question. There is now IMAX sound setting i think on the Sony tv? Is it dtx that i will choose for IMAX?
@@Toschh Yes. IMAX audio is associated with DTS 👍
@@Toschh The AVR has nothing to do with the image. The IMAX aspect ratio or DMR lives on the disc or in the stream
Nice! I’ve learned a lot! I already have an AnthemAVM-90 and will start looking for an IMax Enhanced Big Screen! Thx!is there a listing for IMax Enhanced Big Screen TV’s? 1:07
Thanks for the kind words! And yeah, I refer to this list quite often 👇
www.flatpanelshd.com/guide.php?subaction=showfull&id=1722855796
I've had 5 receivers since 2000 for home theater.
Dislike: onkyo back in 2000-2010 (has 5.1) runs hot which killed the HDMI output.
Like: Denon 1912 (has 5.1) since 2010 runs warm
Love: Denon AVR-X3700H (5. 2 independent sub outputs .4 atmos; Has atmos dts:x Imax) and Denon AVR-S760H (5. 2 identical sub outputs .2 atmos;
Has atmos dts:x) since 2021 runs warm.
I love streaming Spotify from my iPhone to Denon HEOS receivers and the 7 Denon HEOS standalone speakers around my house simultaneously for a party!
Fandango Now shut down in back in August. Fandango acquired Vudu so I lost all 32 of my IMAX ENHANCED titles.
Whaaaaaaaat?! NOOOOO!
Not really clear on the audio part. Is the Imax version of audio just a quality standard for the DTS-X track or an actual diferent encoding format of DTS-X that only that list of receivers can decode?
I believe it’s some meta data added to the DTS:X track that only certain AVRs can decode/process. Because DTS:X and Atmos are meta data themselves, not actual audio signals.
@@ealanosborne But if DTS-X is already the 3D positioning metadata, like Atmos, I wonder what the IMAX is adding. Guess I have some reading to do. Unfortunately my AVR isn't up for the job. Thank you for the thorough video Ealan!
Look up the Hisense u7g it’s both but the video is just Dolby vision. The audio has Dolby atoms and iMax enhanced.
While playing through AirPlay wat should be the set up in AVR!?! Mutl ch. stereo or DD surround! In DD surround none of the speakers hv good output!! Is that normal!?!
Yeah I think Multichannel stereo is optimized better for music. DD Surround tried to make it more cinematic, which isn’t necessary for music. 👍
@@ealanosborne cool thanks man for the clarification.!
maybe it’s just me but there seems to be a difference in sound when it comes to iMax DTS:X and IMAX Neu:X. The Neu:X version seems a lot louder than the DTS:X Version of the audio track put out there.
The Sony 950g is also imax enhanced as well. Just an FYI. Great videos by the way.
I have Sony A90J. I always choose IMAX if i can in picture mode. Do you know if Sony supports IMAX sound as well?
Last question. If i stream from the tv app and then send the sound to my reciver threw earc. Can I use IMAX image on the tv as picture srtting even thouh the receiver doesn't support IMAX?
Yes, as long as you have the audio pass through setting on your TV set to Auto, if you’re playing a title that has IMAX sound, it should pass it thru to the receiver via eARC and the receiver will process it.
And also yes! Just like if a gamer wants to game in 4K/120Hz refresh rate, but their receiver doesn’t support that, they can still get that ultimate gaming experience by plugging their XBOX Series X or PS5 straight into the TV with audio coming through eARC to the receiver. Same with streaming something from a TV app. 👍
@@ealanosborne thank you so much for clarify that! :) / I'm thinking about the smaller Marantz models sence i got a smaller room and efficient bookshelf as sorround.
The Marantz Sr 6015 support IMAX and has a better auddesey processor. Maybe because it's 9.1 and not 7.1 as the lesser models. Maybe a requirement from IMAX to have that many speakers involved to provide the imax expirience. But it's a bit cheeky from Marantz that they didn't packed in everything in the cheaper models.
Now if they could toss those sick IMAX demo reels at the front of each one that would be superb for testing our Home Theatres out!
Sony X90 shows IMAX Certified. Disney + shows IMAX Certified yet while streaming Disney + IMAX version, the Sony TV shows DV light or DV dark as the only choices. Is IMAX only available via disc / not while streaming? When using the Sony Bravia service, IMAX Enhanced is shown
I’m not sure about the IMAX badge when watching Disney+. I know it’s mainly just the fact that it’s a 1.90:1 screen size ratio and maybe some better HDR settings, but maybe the metadata to actually SHOW the IMAX certified badge is only on Bravia Core content? 🤷♂️
@@ealanosborne got it, I think? All I know for sure is the Sony TV picture mode is Dolby Video while watching Disney + still looks and sound’s fine so what is IMAX Enhanced streaming? On Disney+ streaming the IMAX version, I cannot select the IMAX Enhanced mode.
@@peepers4763 Hmm, yeah not sure, since I don’t own a Sony TV to test these things out. I wish, though! Sony’s OLEDs are sweet! 😁
@@ealanosborne I wanted the OLED or even the x95 mini led. Side by side, I’d pick either over the x90 but on its own the X90 is beautiful and on sale. New Sony Television models come out 3/1/23.
So if I understand right, the most content on Disney with imax enhanced doesn’t support the special audio for it?
Correct. For now. There are plans to get a streaming version of IMAX Enhanced DTS:X down the road, but who knows when that will be. 🤷♂️
Yeah bro are you got most of my Phillips Dolby Atmos, DTS x DTS Play Fi (+) the first IMax certified Enhances setup Fidelio B97+ 2 Phillips speakers TAW6205 40 watt on sale 150 now
I love your point of view, but can you find a way to take care of the echo? You can even make a before/after video with it, and potentially get a sponsor of this tech to pay for it. Make a combo of deadening and refracting stuff. The very slight echo makes it difficult to hear if I'm listening to this like a podcast on the go. But bro, I love your review of items.
I’m not able to figure out where to buy Fidelio b97. The website doesn’t provide a way and Amazon doesn’t have it. Any idea where I can buy?
Btw, I think the Spider-Man movies are IMAX Enhanced on Bravia Core… I remember reading somewhere that Bravia Core was the ONLY place to see the Spider-Man movies in IMAX
Yes, exactly. Pretty strange it’s so exclusive. I’d love to own those on 4K Blu-ray with IMAX aspect ratio scenes, but alas… 😭
I couldn't get that "IMAX Enhanced" search to come up until I clicked "Blu-ray" at the top of the page.
Hey, bud! Have you heard any rumors on when Disney+ may have DTS:X sound in their IMAX enhanced titles? I checked the other day and they were all still Atmos sound. Also. I believe many of those titles you looked up are IMAX-enhanced in Bravia Core - Sony's own streaming service. Particularly the Spiderman stuff. Sadly I think you can still only get access to that service if you buy a Sony TV.
Yeah, that's correct about Sony's Bravia Core service. Some sort of deal Sony struck with IMAX. But sadly, no...I have not heard a word about the exact title that will feature IMAX Signature Sound by DTS. When new major titles are released, I always think, "Ohhh, is this the one?!" Only to be disappointed that it hasn't happened yet. 😆
I’ve been watching ur video on imax enhanced video. And im confused cause my new hisense u8g does both Dolby vision and imax enhanced. Remember u saying it’s one or the other not both imax enhanced plus Dolby vision. But my TV does both. So can u have both of them after all?
Heh heh…yeah. I put a *correction in the description. My bad. 😄 Both are definitely possible in the nicer TVs. Whoops.
@@ealanosborne oh ok, lol was a bit confused. Thought it sounded weird 😂
IMAX Enhanced is another unneeded licensed feature for home video equipment. It offers no improvement of the current video and audio format capabilities. IMAX Enhanced’s dts X is just adding a fixed center height object. This is nothing unique that the existing Dolby Atmos or dts:X could not have done.
This whole thing was done so IMAX can get a royalty cut for movies presented in the IMAX format at home which is essentially 16:9 that we’ve been using for years. It’s a f’n joke. A big reason we’re not seeing many IMAX Enhanced discs is because the studios aren’t willing to pay the licensing fee. My copy of The Dark Knight plays the IMAX sequences just fine without the useless IMAX Enhanced licensing. Again IMAX AR at home is essentially 16:9 unless you want to go full true IMAX like Zack Snyder did with his Justice League where it was 1.43:1 looking more like a square with vertical black bars and again this was done without the useless licensing that IMAX is imposing on newer IMAX films for home viewing.
You’re drinking the Kool-Aid.
I have the Costco version Sony TV XBR85X90CH (same as X900H). Should I be seeing a banner pop up that says “IMAX Enhanced” instead of just “HDR10”? My TV supposedly handles IMAX Enhanced content after an update, but I only see “HDR10” while playing IMAX Enhanced material, such as Space Station.
Sorry, I’m not sure. I’ve never owned or reviewed a Sony TV (yet). 🤷♂️
Thanks for the reply, and all of your great videos!
I like how you’re about to climb out of my screen in the thumbnail like that girl from The Ring. Haha!
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A note on Disney Plus...if you choose IMAX it is still in Dolby Atmos and not DTS:X
Yep. But they stated in a few articles that DTS:X will be coming. When that will be? 🤷♂️ Who knows. But someday! 😄
The disney plus audio is night and day improvement over the 4k discs
The Heisense U8G also has dolby vision!
Yep…my bad. I put a correction in the description. 😄
Nice video...I have the sony x90j and a denon s750h..The denon performs well and I enjoy Imax enhanced and Dts over Atmos..I get the audio on my denon and it reads "DTS X" but not "Imax DTS" the sounds amazing..just wondering is there a difference between sound DTS X vs Imax DTS X?
I don’t think the difference is going to be noticeable much. Maybe dialog is a tiny bit clearer? Or bass extension is a tiny bit fuller? But both DTS:X and IMAX DTS:X are phenomenal, IMO.
Great video. Was looking for IMAX review like this. Cheers!
Thanks! 🙌
Another great video and intro to new websites, now I know the receiver I was thinking about buying is IMAX Enhanced. I am currently updating my 1990's 5.1 Dolby Digital home theater. I have kept my original Bose AM-5 Series 1 speakers and added the Denon AVR 3700H or Onkyo TX-RZ840 and 2 more for "height speakers" to make it a 5.1.2. Ultimately I plan to get the Emotivia Bas X 3 channel receiver to power the front sound stage, and 2 more Bose speakers to ultimately reach the 5.1.4 plateau.
What a great plan! 🤘
@@ealanosborne Another quick question, as mentioned eariler I have the Onkyo TX-NR 696 currently I am running a 5.1.2. My question is can I use my zone 3 preout to add an amp and 2 more speakers to bring my system to a 5.1.4, or will those added speakers only work outside of my 5.1.2 system.
@@mptobler1 Zone 2 and Zone 3 will only work separately from the main zone. 😞
@@ealanosborne 😞Thanks
My 1st movie theatre experience was an IMAX and then went to a regular theater after, the downgrade was ... 😅
Only two type of theaters that are worth going to are IMAX Laser (4K projector with upgraded sound package, DTS) and Dolby Cinema (Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos).
The pesky Phillips fidelio. If it was 7.1.4 or better I would buy. Looking out for a Uk deal on a JBL 9.1.
Dolby vision and Atmos every day of the week. Twice on Sunday!
Great video, but noticed one mistake. The Sony OLED TVs are Dolby Vision and IMAX Enhanced certified, I think the Hisense might be as well.
Oh…haha, whoops! There was so much to cover I was sure I’d screw up somewhere. 😄 I’ll put that correction in the destruction. Thanks for the heads up!
Not sure but is imax Audio also in Dolby atmos or is it only dts x?
It’s only tied to DTS:X.
@@ealanosborne and Disney doesnt have dts x y’et?
Thanks again I had no clue about IMAX enhanced my Hisense u7g has it so very helpful I also subscribed to your channel I thought I heard it all but I always lean something new when I watch your channel
What does it mean for a TV to support IMAX Enhanced? Does that mean it supports all three components, just scale and picture, or just picture?
If it means it will decode audio what happens when it passes decoded audio to a sound system that isn't IMAX Enhanced?
It’s a certification, like THX, so if you’re watching something in IMAX Enhanced, it’s supposedly the best picture quality possible on IMAX Enhanced certified TVs. And as far as sound, you would still need an IMAX Enhanced certified AVR to decode it properly.
@Ealan Osborne so when a TV says it supports Dolby Atmos it isn't doing any decoding either?
Okay, let me back up - If it's an IMAX Enhanced certified TV, it CAN decode IMAX Enhanced audio (just like an Atmos certified TV can decode Atmos), but it can only pass that audio through to another IMAX Enhanced certified AVR or soundbar. I guess you can still watch something that's IMAX Enhanced just on the TV, but only listening through the TV speakers defeats the purpose. It would still sound really bad. You'll only benefit from an IMAX Enhanced audio signal if you have a full surround sound system with height speakers, etc.
@Ealan Osborne if the TV is decoding the audio signal (Atmos or IMAX) why would one need a certified receiver too? Since the receiver is receiving a decoded signal wouldn't it just send the audio to the correct channel (speaker)?
So I think some of that info is missing or is just outdated. Far from home and no way home both have imax aspect ratio on bcore. With that said I'm sure there maybe more but not sure
The mastered for farfield shouldn't change aything as this is all decided with the speaker distance settings in your AVR. The theaters don't have to deal with reflections like your home does and 12ft away is not far in comparison. I don't think there is any magic going on there but I could be wrong.
Any word on the Imax Enhanced audio on Disney+?
Nope. 😭
@ealanosborne 2023 is almost up. It doesn't look like they will be adding the Imax Enhanced audio unless they plan on waiting until December 31st
Earned a sub.+like! Love it!
Thank you very much! 🤘
@@ealanosborne you're welcome Sir
How does Sony offer IMAX enhanced movies with Dolby Atmos om Bravia Core?
The IMAX Enhanced is mainly about the picture quality and aspect ratio on Bravia Core. The audio portion of IMAX Enhanced is tied to DTS:X, so that still has yet to make its debut through streaming. Disney+ is supposed to be the first to support “IMAX Signature Sound by DTS” which is what they are calling it. But they said this during CES in January 2023…and still no word on when it’s going to actually happen. 🤦♂️
My audio got enhanced. Maybe it's not true dtsx yet but there was a very noticeable difference on my sound system
Imax Enhanced is based in with DTS:X. Imax Enhanced will only be taken advantage of if someone has a DTS:X setup and a DTS:X avr & if the audio has not been watered down like Dolby Atmos is 90% of the time for years consumer market.
IE on Disney Plus doesn't mean you're getting the true aspect ratio. If you want a true imax picture then
Watch Zack Snyder's Justice League
Just tried the different versions on Disney. I don't believe that the bars in widescreen used to be that big. This is a conspiracy theory..
Disney wants us to ONLY watch IMAX because they put in subliminal messages in the extra spaces! 😄
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If your sound system supports DTS:X but doesn't mention IMAX Enhanced will you still get IMAX Enhanced audio?
No. It’ll say DTS:X on the display. IMAX Enhanced is basically DTS:X anyway, with slight tweaks. 🤷♂️
It's so funny how they list compatible AVRs yet they forgot to mention the Denon x4500h which is IMAX Enhanced....I guess they want people to buy their newer receivers so they only list the newer ones and not the older ones?
Yeah, pretty much, since the older ones are less expensive these days. They just ultimately want your $$$. 😄
If Fandango is going to have this...will VUDU?
That’s possible, since they bought out Fandango. Which is great, since that’s where I have all my digital copies of movies. 🤘 Not sure if and when, though…
Hisense u7g has Dolby vision and IMAX
Yeah, got that wrong. Whoops. 😄
Allll I want is Avengers Infinity war and Endgame with Imax Enhanced and DTS on bluray/dvd.
Me toooooooooooo!
Dolby Vision/HDR and IMAX Enhanced are totally different field,right?
Correct. IMAX Enhanced is its own thing. 👍
Sonys new tv line support imax and dolby
Yep! I made a correction in the description about that. Whoops! 😄
Very informative!
Thank you very much!
Why should a TV not be able to support DV and IMAX? If they pay for both certifications and comply to the specs, I see no reason for that to not happen: my current TV supports both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ that are competing dynamic HDR encodings.
And, most of all, as far as I've understood, for TVs and speakers this will be just another certification (like THX) and not a specific format (like Dolby Vision and HDR10+) so, in theory, no specific hardware is needed. And provided that IMAX aspect ratio is even more similar to TVs 16:9 than usual widescreen, I don't see any reason why any tv should be able to show the video portion with the same quality of an "IMAX certified" TV. But, most likely, they will block that via some software gimmick to push programmed obsolescence.
And I suspect that even the "IMAX Enhances DTS:X" will be nothing more than DTS:X with an IMAX certification.
No, I made a mistake about that. I make a correction in the description of the video. There are definitely TVs out there which do support both DV and IMAX. Whoops! 😄
Thanks for the video
Very helpful thank you
Rakuten TV is German, LOL ;)
Disney + doesn't tell you how to watch their movies on Imax Enhanced? Makes no sense to me at all
Auro3D =)
The fact that again, so much of this imax enhanced content is incredibly hard to fin where I live or even worse, entirely unavailable, is literally an invitation to pirate content. Why would I not enjoy this amazing Imax Enhanced experience because these asshols gatekeep it behind paywalls or scarcity lol.
The part with near and far field is absolutely wrong. A speakers near field is defined by its chaotic Interference and so shall not be used as listening window. Also there is no Differenz, solely on the distance from speaker to listener, wich all might ve corrected in the time domain.
Imax is only masterd in 7.0 so no lfe channel only full range speaker thats what it comes down to and its pretty useless for almost everybody…
The far field is when all the Impulses come together. Dolby atmos is also mixed for cinema but the difference is not the size of the room but the object count, wich is way higher than dolby atmos for home.
Watching the rubbish tv and films today have become really complicated and I’ve been running sound studios and have been playing with AVR amps since Dolby Pro-Logic first came out.Now you need a compatible TV and an AVR that decodes Dolby Vision,HDR 10+ Dolby Atmos,DTS X Pro,you need speakers all over the place..All this just to be able to play a DVD 4K BluRay which is generally a title we’ve seen before in various iterations.I have a THX AVR and A 5.1 setup with B&W Nautilus speakers that sounds great and I can watch the movie without driving myself insane with listening to an old movie because of hype.You spend 50,000 grand on a setup and Hope you can get a title or two.
Spider-Man FFH Bravia core
Denon X4700h just went up 699 now 2699😑😑😑😑
Yikes… 😬
Shame Disney don't care for us quality huggers! lol
MCU movies on Disney plus is a fraud when ony a few minutes of the movies are in a better aspect ratio (for 16:9 TV). Add in the bad streaming bandwidth and you got a great advertising stunt.
Not upgrading now. It's not that serious at all.
I dislike this program. Since it was introduced, Disney, WB etc (dune included) did not give the blu-ray discs IMAX. This is a major downgrade in every way, especially for 3D which requires the full height for maximum experience.
Don't focus on his arms. They are too long.
DoseKnee should try remastering their shoddy Atmos before they want to add IMAX-E to their shit sound quality of ALL the movies.
I got to stop watching your channel my bank account does not approve. That being said I'm not going to run out and update but a boy can dream
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