MASTER Heel And Toe Downshifting Technique in 5 Minutes!
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- Learn how to rev match using the heel and toe technique in this step-by-step tutorial. Mastering the heel-toe shift is essential for smooth and fast downshifts. This video will teach you tips and tricks for proper heel-toe shifting, reducing wear and tear on your car. Ideal for beginners who are curious about heel and toe.
First, we'll go over what the heel and toe technique is, why it's important for performance driving, and how it works to match engine revs for a seamless gear change. Then we'll break down the steps - from foot positioning, pedal transition, and heel-toe motion - and we'll help you avoid common mistakes beginners make..
With consistent practice using proper form, you’ll be able to execute perfect heel and toe downshifts every time. Say goodbye to jerky deceleration and learn control over your vehicle. Master the fundamentals covered in this tutorial and soon you’ll be ready to take on advanced heel-toe techniques.
This is the ultimate guide to mastering heel and toe downshifting for faster and smoother downshifts. Gain the racing driver skills to operate your manual transmission car like a pro.
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How is your heel and toe? Let me know! Leave me any questions here.
I've been heel toeing, double declutching since 1973. My first car was 3 on the tree and only had synchro in 3rd. I had to learn how to change gears properly if I wanted anything other than top gear. I still do it in my BRZ, and if I get it right I can get into the lower gear quicker than the synchros. Assuming double declutching.
is heel and toe can be use to pickup truck?
@@thirdiezaraspe1889 anything with pedals
H civic si for 5 yrs, I was never able to do a heel-toe coz my foot is too narrow and small but I will practice again, what I always do is Brake-clutch-(foot off the brake) blip almost the same time with shift...is that bad?
@@honeyrn21 Good question. It's not the same thing when you take your foot off the brake. Go with as wide a shoe as possible and if that doesn't work consider some pedal covers that widen the brake and throttle pedal.
Well I'll be first attempting it with my 370z on my way home from work today, been driving manuals my whole 18 year driving career and this is the first video I've seen that made me feel like I could hone this skill easily enough. Great video, thanks for the breakdown! Hopefully it'll come as natural as the rest of driving has for me.
Cheers, thanks! Keep practicing!
Outstanding tutorial. The concept that heel toe shifting is a braking technique is worth the price of admission.
I'm glad you appreciate the correct message here!
I'm 17, heel and toe downshifting is one the best and most useful techniques I've learned in a manual. I started around last year after seeing keiichi tsuchiya doing it in a gunsai video. I then just tried it and after a few times, I was smooth with it and loved it.
Me too I’m 17 and learned it a few days ago I’m pretty smooth now
At 64 years and having never raced or taken a school... I've spent the last 45 years reading books and magazine articles, trying to figure out heel and toe... You just taught me the sequence in 12 minutes!!! THANKS! I just bought a GT-40 replica for track days... You have an open invitation to take her out at Barber when I get her ready
This is exactly why I produced this episode, Craig. Practice makes perfect! Barber is a lovely circuit, driven it a couple of times. Would be nice if IMSA brought us back there.
Mr. Makse! Thank you for 6 steps you shared, it really helped me to improve how I drive.
Somehow I always did not "clutct out" until I finish my braking or applying two steps of "brake off" and "clutch out" simultaneously. It didn't not only hindered my clutch engaging/release timing, but also lose the point of heel and toe; staying in power band. Next day after watching your lesson, it made a night and day difference, I don't upset my drivetrain as often as I used to, but stay in healthy RPM range :)
Brilliant! Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad it worked for you!
I've recently obtained a manual FRS, this is my first manual daily ever. I've been getting alot more comfortable behind the wheel and rev match downshifting is becoming much easier. I've tried doing heel toe downshifts and I've always press too hard on the brake thus almost sending myself thru the windshield. I'll get it at some point. I'm just going to focus on getting the basics down to a science, It's only been 3 or so months
Practice makes perfect. Some of the tips and tricks will help. Practice safely!
@@BrianMaksewhen i first tried to learn, it didn’t go well because i choose all the wrong situations and speeds to try it, best to learn on long off ramps and long hills coming to a stop light or stop sign, been doing it for 2 years and now can heel toe with muscle memory approach ez pass tolls after just speeding and breaking every traffic violations imaginable, don’t drive like that no more since i got it out of my system but when learning, safety should be number 1 priority, don’t want to leave your loved ones behind trying to be speed racer. i don’t drag race, never have never will, my dream is to be weekend warrior auto cross but my wallet doesn’t facilitate it 😂
Thank you for this! I just found your channel after accidentally clutchless downshifting successfully 😂 didn’t know that was possible. This is a huge help if you have clogged cats too because they make the rpms drop too fast as you let off the gas.
Techniques like this make an old 2001 GM nv3500 much more drivable from my experience. Aside from an actual race the 4.3 V6 with a manual can get down
I’m here to serve. Glad you enjoyed it and hopefully learned something new!
This was one of the best heel toe vid's I have seen in a while..
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful. Keep practicing and you'll master the heel toe technique in no time!
this seems like a proper instructions layed down in logical way, thanks al ot
You're welcome!
Im 17 and just started driving like 6 months ago, I started trying this a month ago and everytime I do heel-and-toe downshifting and succeed, it makes me grin cuz it's just so fun and I feel cool 😂😂😂
Nice work! Keep it up!
(I didn’t perfect it until I was in my 20s)
I’ve always been told how important it is to learn the heel and toe technique but never knew where to start, excited to try it out. Thanks!
I don’t know how important it is, but it sure is fun when you master it!
Excellent tutorial!
I own a 2018 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth with manual transmission. Your video helped me to finally understand how to heel and toe. Love the sound of that Abarth exhaust every time I blip the throttle...!
Hope you put all of this to work!
@@BrianMakse Yes. I've been practicing my heel and toe!
Thank you for this. You, sir, are a natural at teaching/coaching, and enjoyable to watch your excellent video presentations. And picking the nice colored Vans for this helps viewers follow your feet much easier.
Thanks, Alex. I’ve been teaching this stuff since the 90s. And I do love my Vans!
Thanks for the great video! I need to learn this! Your video also made me miss my Veloster N. Man, that was a great car...
Thanks! Great car!
Just bought a GR Corolla last month after driving a bunch of older, far less powerful cars. Been driving manuals for most of the 18 years I've been driving because I do like rowing through the gears but I wouldn't call myself an expert by any means and heel-toe is something I've always struggled with. My new car also has the auto-blip feature and I do love how it shifts compared to my previous manuals but I'm definitely gonna practice some of these tips next time I'm out on some fun roads!
The rev matching feature is a great way to help you get the feel for it before you start working on the throttle blip on your own. Great car. Enjoy.
Same here except this is my first manual lol, driving it is no problem and regular downshifting with a throttle blip isnt a problem for me but when it comes to heel toe i struggle, i either blip to little or to much
Thanks for this, explained things much better than I have heard before!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent stuff. Thank you very much. I think this might help me get over my fear that my big feet (in my 2008 MX-5) will lead me to screw things up. Big thumbs up.
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Hi Brian. Great explanation. Shoe selection was a good tip. The only thing I’m now struggling with is timing. My engine revs and falls so fast, I either miss the blip or get a surge (i.e. let out the clutch too early or too late). Any suggestions?
Practice, practice, practice! It's definitely all in the timing. Make sure you have the fundamentals down and practice that kick of the throttle so you get that 2k bump in engine speed consistently first. After that, then move on to practicing the timing of clutch release. In a safe location of course!
This was an excellent video! Im going to start practicing this tonight! ❤
Have fun! Be safe!
Hi Brian, thanks for the great tutorial on heel and toe downshifting. Not a technique I can really do, because of an ankle fracture years ago, that severely limits rotation in my ankle. But my other point is that, most auto journalists and youtubers think that rev matching to do downshifts necessarily requires using the heel and toe technique. It doesn't. There is a simpler, more straightforward way to do your own rev matching, without incorporating the simultaneous braking of heel-and-toeing. Yes, heel and toeing is better on a race track, but it's not something you have to know how to do, in order to rev match downshifts, in a non-racetrack context. I think it's unfortunate that most Americans now seem to think that you have to know how to heel and toe to rev match downshifts, but, you really don't. Yeah, if you're gonna be racing or autocrossing, obviously it's best to know the technique. But most people can get along fine doing rev matching, without knowing how to do heel and toeing. Just my two cents worth.
Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, you can match revs in different ways, but don't forget that you only have control of the brake pedal when using heel and toe.
P. S. I'm a championship-winning racing driver first before being a TH-camr, decidedly not a journalist, and definitely not American.
Thanks so much - first car was a Manuel but never learned this technique - hope to use it soon with a Miata I plan to purchase -
Keep me posted! Happy to help!
6:41 This is key. I would always have my foot in the middle of the pedal because that's how you would normally brake. Good tip
I’m here to serve. Keep practicing!
Yes!! This video is what is needed! Thank you 💯🙏🏾
Thanks T! Glad you enjoyed.
Oh crap, you do it like I do it! I roll my foot over, have for decade, and it was called "Rev Matching" when I was instructed. When I got into racing (well autoX) everyone was all about "Heel and Toe" and I tried doing it that way... but it felt dangerous in my Miata, so I abandoned the idea... but kept doing rev matching how I was taught as a kid, sometimes rolling my ankle, and when I am not in a hurry I tap brake and then tap throttle as I let out the clutch. So nice to know I wasn't doing it completely wrong all this time! Thank you!
This is the right way to do it, Lee! Take some of these tips and refine your technique!
@@BrianMakse Thank you, and I will review that video a bunch, favorited so I can find it easily. I appreciate it a bunch. Darn, I will need to do some back road driving for 'no reason at all' in order to work on this.
Excellent excuse for a drive!
Thank you Brian for this video! I thought I was going crazy. When I learned to heel and toe on my MR2 Turbo about 25 years ago, I had to get those dressy pedal covers in order to get the brake and gas pedals close enough together to heel and toe this way. Every car I've driven since, the pedals are too far apart for this method of heel and toe. Most videos show the driver using their toes on the brake pedal and their heel on the throttle. Although this solves the pedal distance issue, I find it very unwieldy. Having to move my whole leg to stab the throttle upsets the braking, I could never get the hang of it. I began to wonder whether the way I originally learned what's wrong, and if I was just too uncoordinated to heel and toe the proper way.
Your video confirms that IDID learn the right way of heel and toe driving, and all that's missing is a really wide pair of skate shoes! Thanks!
Awesome! That's great to hear! Glad this helped!
Pedal spacing has changed primarily for safety (Lotus excepted) and wide shoes along with good pedal covers can help.
I've always been in a similar situation. Pedals too far apart to use this method. When I recently got my Miata, I was determined to get it right since virtually every review I've seen has said that it is perfectly set up for heel toe. I have been able to do it well enough to start commiting to muscle memory, but I still find I have to put the left side of my foot uncomfortably close to the edge of the brake pedal to reach the throttle with the right side, even with a size 11 Wide foot. So I ordered a pedal extender and installed it today, so we'll see how it works out tomorrow!
@@IceNFire09 Excellent, good luck and enjoy!
Great video. I just enjoy using the technique, it's just fun. When you nail the downshift it just feels 👍
Right on!
Im a huge car enthusiastist and have been watching onboard racing videos for years. The question i have is should i be concerned on the clutch/gas catch or just simply just let the clutch out. I really considered going to racing school to learn this properly. I drive an S2000 and a Miata. Thanks for all your info!!!
Yes, timing is everything. Practice makes perfect!
Nice car pal, i drive an i20N and this was an awesome video i shared to a bunch of newbies who wanna heel toe.
Glad you enjoyed it! I’ve never seen an i20N road car, but I definitely know what it is. Great car. Thanks for sharing!
The only thing you forgot to mention in this otherwise great tutorial, is that the throttle pedal height and the gap (from left to right) between the brake pedal and the throttle pedal is not optimal on all cars, and on some cars you'll need a pedal and/or spacer kit.
Precisely. Troubleshooting is exactly what this comments section is for. There’s far too much variation in pedal box layouts to begin to address that without leading to confusion, which is the opposite of what we’re trying to do here.
I've never had a manual car I could practice heel toeing but its so nice and easy and satisfying to do it with your hands, on a motorcycle 😅
Exactly the same principle!
Great video! Personal note: I’m only 5’ 4”, and in my C7 ‘Vette, with the seat in proper position I found I could not reach the clutch pedal without a big left leg stretch. Very awkward. However I purchased a purpose-built mod that adds about 1 1/2 in (40mm) to the pedal height. What a difference. So much better. (The guy makes these in three flavors: Corvette, Camaro and Mustang).
Sometimes that's what it takes. Glad you enjoyed the video, T!
Thanks! Great session.
Cheers! Keep practicing!
In my Type R. I keep it easy, & smooth. I keep the rev match on. My TSX, I’m gonna start practicing. But usually I just blip the throttle.
Great tutorial, thank you! I've been driving manuals for quite a while, but I'm having a really hard time keeping consistent brake pressure while attempting to blip the throttle. I always seem to increase the pressure which forces my car to dive. Any suggestions on how to get that right would be greatly appreciated. I'm currently practicing in my 2006 G35 6MT coupe prepping for upcoming HPDEs.
I think I expanded on just that concept in my old Hagerty column. Check it out and give it a try.
www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/the-elsinore-files/recovering-the-lost-art-of-heel-and-toe/
Great Vid I need to get used to my Brakes more than anything else.. I have a Manual Mustang GT and the Brakes are so sensitive..
You can do it!
Like that you chose a car with an interesting exhaust note. Just like driving a manual, learning to drive one better is easier and more rewarding with satisfying and loud reactions from the exhaust. Great video.
Thanks, Jorge. At the time I started the project, there weren’t many cars to choose from due to the pandemic, save for my personal cars, and Hyundai Canada has been excellent to work with. More importantly, the Veloster N is way too much fun. What a great car.
Very nice video, very nicely and clearly explained.
My problem is, I can't for the life of me maintain a steady pressure on the brake pedal while blipping the throttle. Depending on traffic, and on my current speed, I apply just the right amount of brake pressure to get a nice and smooth deceleration. I look ahead and estimate what the final point of the deceleration will be, and then adjust the braking force so that the deceleration rate from here to there is as constant as possible. Sometimes I even start braking a bit earlier than strictly necessary, in order to get away with a lower deceleration rate. This provides a smooth experience for the passengers (which is my ultimate goal, and something I take pride in).
But as soon as I rotate my foot to blip the throttle, that pressure changes. So, while the whole point of applying the heel & toe technique is to avoid jerking my passengers during a downshift, I actually end up jerking them while blipping the throttle. Which is not only annoying, but embarassing as well.
It may be just a matter of training. I'll keep trying. But any tips or tricks that you think might help with this would be highly appreciated.
Glad you enjoyed this, Vlad. I dropped a few more tips in my subsequent column at Hagerty. Have a read, apply those techniques, and let me know how it goes!
www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/the-elsinore-files/recovering-the-lost-art-of-heel-and-toe/
Thank you. The way you suggest to practice it in neutral and to gradualy increase the brake pedal pressure sounds like a great idea. I'll try that.
Actually, your video has already helped me. The second time I watched it I realized I was doing it wrong. My car has an automatic rev match feature (which I've now disabled because I want to do it myself). I was trying to emulate the ARM's way of working, namely to stab the throttle quickly and sharply. And of course, once I did that, the brake pedal pressure also changed. I guess that was my mistake. You, on the other hand, seem to do it in one smooth and gradual move (albeit quite fast), rather than a sharp jab. I think that's the secret. I thought the revs had to jump suddenly by 2000 rpm or so, because that's how I had seen the ARM work, but actually it's also fine if they increase a bit more gradually. This way I might be able to maintain a steadier pressure on the brake pedal.
I will keep practising.
@@B16WGZ I'm glad this is working for you. What you're seeing with my downshifts is the result of thirty years of practice...it doesn't happen overnight! Keep up the good work and practice!
Thanks for your tutoria!
My pleasure. Practice and let me know if you have any questions!
Best wishes to you Brian from UK 🇬🇧.
Great videos; as always.
Thanks, Tim! This one was a lot of work.
Great video, thank you! It’s difficult to tell from the footage, when you kick the gas pedal is your heel coming off the floor, or does it stay planted? Would you say that your knee is pointed more into the steering column, or away from it? Cheers!
Great questions! Whether my heel is off the floor or not depends on the car and how high off the floor the brake pedal is. In general and more often than not, my heel is off the floor. About the right knee, that depends on a few more factors, but in general it's slightly to the right of the steering column. Make sure your seating position is dialled in first, then work from there.
@@BrianMakse Hey, super cool to get a reply! Thank you! I look forward to working on this some more and getting the hang of it. My knee question came from a tip from another racer who suggested pivoting the right knee towards midline when braking, as that naturally moves the heel towards the gas pedal. I was curious as to whether you did the same. Regardless, at this point, I need to practice and figure out what works for me. Thanks again for a great video, Brian!
Excellent explanation on the technique !!
Glad it was helpful!
Hi. I am usually using heel and tho daily and it is really handy in my 90s Nissan NX 100. My question is does heel and tho wear my car down and is it bad for the car if you do it daily.
Great question! It doesn’t cause any extra wear at all, assuming you’re doing it properly.
thank you Brian always rethorically the best of all driving videos, but driving a Porsche with an incredible fast PDK your suggestion want work, best from Germany
Thank you! PDK definitely removes the need for heel and toe!
Absolute beginner here.. so the purpose of heel and toe is to : slow down but keep revs higher than a normal downshift so that the car has to do "less work" leaving the bend to accellerate out of the corner. Is that roughly it?
The purpose is to complete a downshift (or, sometimes, more than one) while braking without upsetting the balance of the car.
Yes, with breaking and without heel toe techniq wheels on drive axle will spin at different speed which results in sliding , and losing speed at the corner.
Sometimes you need that little slide, but for speed it must be as ideal as possible without any slide
Great guide for drivers to learn. I’ve found that blipping the gas in the middle of the shift works best for me (matched revs as I’m about to enter the gear). Less wear in synchros when available, and much better in dog gear engagement transmission.
Thanks, Eugenio!
I do it like this too. If there weren’t synchros you’d have to double declutch and heel and toe!
I own an elantra gt n line. My pedal is not that responsive i think is due to that turbo lag . Which i dont know how you do it with the veloster N
An N and an N Line are two very different things. N is engineered for heel and toe specifically. Still, it’s going to take some practice. My guess is that your N line doesn’t like brake and throttle applications at the same time.
Great explanation! Thank you sir
Glad it was helpful!
I can rev match ok, but I can only do it as a separate process before a brake point. My issue is brake modulation while doing heel toe, in other words my braking pulses as I roll my foot to blip the throttle. Does heel toe only work well during heavy braking (for example during racing where you’re hard on the brakes anyhow) and less modulation is required or are you able to lightly brake while heel-toeing without pulsing the brake pedal while blipping the throttle.
I learned it quicker at racing school due to the heavier brake pedal pressure required on track. Now I use the technique every day. Practice the trick I discuss in this episode where you’re stopped and refine the movement to get that 2k rpm bump. You’ll get it.
@@BrianMakse will do, thanks! I do want to get good at it
this is awesome Brian! Well done and thank you for this!
Glad you enjoyed it! If you’re practicing, let me know how it’s going!
When I did my first driving school event with the local car club, we were instructed to clutch in, downshift (but pausing for a split second when the shifter is at the neutral position, then blip the gas, then complete the downshift to the desired lower gear, then let out the clutch. This is for a car with a synchromesh gear box. Is there any advantage to this method of heel and toe?
Hey Brian! Appreciate your work for the community. As I've followed you and your motorsport writing, I've always enjoyed your pieces in publications as well as on social media. I'm not sure if we have ever crossed paths on the actual track, but I know a racer when I hear one. :)
The only comments I have are that you did not give much history as to how the technique came about, and how important it was for racing cars not equipped with synchros in their gearbox. If one did not learn how to properly downshift and blip to match the revs exactly, not only would you disrupt the cars balance, but you would ultimately end up destroying the gears.
There also was a method of double clutch downshifting that helped with a synchro-less gearbox that added a few more steps to your 6 (brake, clutch in, shift to neutral, clutch out, blip, clutch in, shift to gear, clutch out, roll off brake = 9?). It is certainly not necessary to teach this to any recent enthusiasts that are not driving small race cars with no synchros anymore, but it is part of the historical development of these methods.
Also, you never explained why it was called the heel and toe, as the more recent pedal boxes are close enough to not have to put your foot in a more sideways manner to get the proper blip (with your heel instead of the side of your foot by rolling).
But overall, kudos to narrating a nice concise piece on the (current day) methods to teach yourself the lost art of downshifting. I really do think it is a shame that the youth of today aren't given more opportunity to buy manual gearbox cars to keep the thrill alive.
Hey Tim! Thank for you note, love it.
Everything you mentioned ended up cut from the script for a range of reasons. Depending on how this video performed, there’s room for a follow up guide.
Awesome video!!! Which is easier to execute a proper heel toe... a gas pedal that hinges at the bottom or the top?!?! Or does it even matter?
Great question, get it all the time. Pedal type doesn’t matter...even the brake pedal.
@@BrianMakse so can I pick your brain as to why some pedals are like that. My 19 camaro SS 1LE has it but my buddies 17 scat pack doesn’t. There’s got to be a reason why
Great tutorial. Concise and to the point, with helpful tips!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Been Heeling and Toeing for ages.. Depending on the car, one can even easily downshift without even touching the throttle.. (got that down to a T as well)
but.. i have to mention, i've been riding a Moped from 1988, and a motorbike since 1992.
On my Motorbike, i always say: "The clutch is there to pull away.. when in motion, you don't need it.. (i actually once drove from Schaanwald in Liechtenstein to Bolzano in Italy (236 Km) without a clutch, because it broke, a wornout seal in the Cilinder.. no problem, Upshifts are no problem whatsoever just ease of the throttle, and kick the pedal down (yes i inverted my pedal), for Downshifts.. ease off.. and at the moment you downshift, Blip the throttle.. between gears you have enough time to match the revs...
On my Ducati 851 there is a "Sort of QuickShift" because when you hit the redline, the ignition shuts off.. when you put your foot on the Shifter while accelerating, it won't budge, but as soon as the Rev-limiter kicks in.. it smoothly moves down into the next gear..
Great video!
I used to downshift with half my foot like you do but I noticed when your foot is deep on the brake I actually use my heel and toe
It feels weird to be fully on the brakes with half of my foot
Glad you enjoyed! Like I said, racing forces you to learn the technique. It was sink or swim for me!
i dont have a car yet but when i do ill probly get the timing wrong. it seems too complicated to push the clutch in, shift down and bip the throttle at the same time. maybe i should get a sim rig to practice
H civic si for 5 yrs, I was never able to do a heel-toe coz my foot is too narrow and small but I will practice again what I always do is Brake-clutch-(foot off the brake) blip almost the same time with shift...
Been driving manual for 25 years , never had to use heel toe or double clutch . Third world none of us use these techniques , you guys make it more complicated for god knows what reason
Performance driving requires it.
Got a 6 speed Lotus with LSD in my XRS. She's a backroad beast. Especially in the wet.
Which Lotus?
@@BrianMakse came this way, 2ZZGE engine and 6 speed lotus transmission. "Corolla Si Type R" basically.
@@BrianMakse although I put in the LSD this year. Tons of upgrades already.
What about double clutching?
It’s a waste of time with a synchromesh gearbox and, as such, a marginal use case.
You're the best can't wait to try this out today!
Hope you enjoy!
Why is it called heel and toe if you're using the ball of your foot and the other side in a stabbing motion?
Because in older race cars the brake pedal was on the right and accelerator was in the middle. So, you'd break with your heel and blip with your toe. Hope that helped.
Thank you cut the explanation!
You're welcome!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Is it same for both the uphill and downhill???
Yes
The first time I practiced heel&toe on my 10 gen Civic I was making screenshots with my face on the windscreen every time i'd do it. It's not easy as in other sport cars because it's alot of gap between the brake pedal and acceleration pedal.
Choose your footwear wisely.
Hey Brian thanks for the tutorial, the practice you mentioned is really helping me to get a feel for the throttle response etc. have one question though for you, I have a nd2 Miata and the brake pedal and the gas pedal seems really far apart and I have a hard time using the rolling method you mentioned, rather I use kind of heel and toe diagonally to connect both pedals. I saw your other videos about Miata’s and it seem really easy for you. Is it just me not knowing the right footing positions or it is really the case nd Miata pedals are far from each other? Thanks!
Hey Troy! Try a wider shoe and if that doesn’t work, try quality wide pedal covers. The motion should be just like I depicted in this episode.
@@BrianMakse thanks for the tip! Will try those out
Do you find old 90’s Italian cars make it easier to heel and toe with their pedal arrangement? I have owned a couple and I find it easier to heel and toe in them.
It all depends on the pedal layout. I’ve driven many Ferraris of that era and the pedals are always arranged properly, but I can’t speak to other marques.
thank you so much brain! this is awesome!
Glad you enjoyed, Christopher! Hit me up with any questions and share this vid with your friends!
Very helpful, surprised you don’t have 80 times the views.
Most people don't want to be better drivers...
I had a ranger were the synchronizer was going out. I had to hit the gas before I could downshift to 3rd gear.
Current Veloster N owner but previous car was a 13 Civic Si. IMO, Civic Si was more fun to heel-toe on track because you're doing it while still in VTEC and you keep that motor screaming. None of the current turbo cars, including the Type-R, can replicate that all motor feeling.
Every car is different. Some Porsches are pretty mega this way, as was the Viper ACR-X that I raced.
I thought heel and toe was for rev matching the gearbox to the lower gear about to be selected, reducing wear and tear on synchromesh.
I’m guessing that isn’t the case?
It is not the case.
@@BrianMakse thanks for letting me know. Can I ask what the purpose of heel and toe is? Sorry if I’m being thick 🙂
@@fishbert17 it's all covered in the episode, I'm not being imperious, but I have to run to my radio show now
i guess, and don't laugh, is why?
i mean, i have been driving sticks since a young kid and never learned this, but although the occasional straight-90 degree up stop sign with an idiot stopped at my bumper stress and panics, i never feel i needed this.
is this simply for really pushing corners?
i thought i drove the standard trans well.
i always thought heel n toe was simply the ability to roll from the break to the gas seamlessly in the hill-stop situation.
I hope this helped! Give it a try (safely)!
The video starts at 6:15
Unless you have my skill set, the video starts at 0:00.
Thanks!
Actually, double declutching is better albeit a bit more difficult. Not sure why you didn't mention it.
Less wear on the clutch. It syncs better.
I didn’t mention it because it’s wasted movement, redundant, and otherwise utterly useless when it comes to driving modern cars quickly. It’s like trying to impress a girl with your Cabbage Patch Doll collection.
Great video!
Have you tried it yet?
@@BrianMakse Not yet, putting a light weight flywheel in my car so it apart at the moment.
I've watched several of these videos and you're the only one that breaks it down this thoroughly and explains exactly when and how to do it! You're also the only one to show it it slow motion which helps tremendously. Thanks again.
Beauty! Thanks, Steve! That's exactly why we did it!
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That's right!
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Had to stop and save this for later after I got to 4:30... Only just got my first manual
Practice makes perfect!
what if you have a really heavy stock flywheel?
Sounds like an excuse to me.
@@BrianMakse I find it really hard to even just simply rev match sometimes. I have to "blip" it for a little longer to get the revs high.
That's why I haven't tried to heel and toe yet.
Love it.
Thanks, Saul!
But if you're a "trail braking" fan, substitute that for #6. 😁
Trail braking is a separate discussion and we generally always do that in racing, or at least always do that in the limited number of race cars I’ve driven.
The most hidden secret is a good pair of shoes, well-fitting feet with a flat sole, not 12 minutes of talking too much. Also you have to know your car throttle response really good to have great sense of it (you have to know, how much gas you have to apply).
Secondly gearing/revs after gear change - you have to know that in order to intuitively apply gas.
It is good to have steering wheel adjusted at its maximum length to you, seat have to be vertically positioned or slightly tilted back.
You can jump iff the clutch if you gain the knowleadge of gearing. It is good to keep clutch in for a bit longer when you are learning, later you can just jump off it.
I don’t understand any of this.
What about all this and double clutching?
Why on earth would anyone double clutch a modern sports car? Or any modern car for that matter?
@BrianMakse you're the expert, you tell me? All the vids say I need to. 06 XRS with that lotus transmission. I got a brand new transmission this year and added LSD. It likes going into 3rd better when cold when I double it, so seems to benefit... ? Thanks for your advice.
@@Audfile I'm happy to take that mantle of expert on this subject. Double clutching is romanticized by non-drivers because it's only relevant to dog boxes aka manuals with straight cut gears aka manuals without synchronizers.
In 2024, the double clutch technique irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the cars that will enter the conversation and it's certainly not what we're talking about here.
For those in the 0.0000001% who actually drive a many many decades old road car or many decades old racing car that actually has a dog box, then sure, double clutch to your heart's content.
If you don't drive one of those things, ignore anyone who uses the term 'double clutch'. They're misleading you with nonsense. In context of shifting modern gearboxes, aka those with synchronizers, it's an absolute waste of time, energy, and movement.
For what it's worth, this video addresses performance driving, not the idiosyncrasies of unique, cold gearboxes.
@@BrianMakse so Vin Diesel was full of shit?
Can’t you blip the throttle as the gear lever is in neutral in between the higher and lose gear? As you would in double declutching.
That's what big rig truck drivers do.
Also, no. It's not the same thing.
@@BrianMakse what’s not the same thing?
My “hack” for the throttle blip is to flick my right heel out so it hits the center console wall next to the throttle pedal. This tells me I’m over the target and all I have to do is roll my foot on its right edge to blip the pedal.
I shall call it: Flick-Smack-Tip-Blip.
That's a new one!
I do something similar to this when playing with a wheel in the game. but in real life it's hard to keep consistent braking for me while doing this, shoes are very important and I guess it gets better with time. for now I will stick with big toe braking and edge of foot for blip
why your gas and brake pedals are closer?The stock set up is quite far away between this two pedals.
That’s a bone stock Veloster N.
@@BrianMakse I can't reach the gas pedal on my N...
@@actuallyfeng334 have you tried sitting a little closer?
@@BrianMakse Close enough.I mean I can't reach the gas pedal while braking.I have to roll my ankle over to heel toe.
How I position my foot to have best control and smooth on gas pedal ? I got 9uk (43eu) size is it better to use toes or bones below toes or middle of the foot ? Any tips pls ?
At which step?
@@BrianMakse just in general during Norma driving. Sorry I know it’s post about hell toe but I never know how I should position my foot I’m kinda new driver
Heel on the floor, toes to the pedal. Time to get yourself to a good performance driving school, mate!
I can’t roll my ankle :( it’s very stiff and uncomfortable.
it appears that you do step 2 and step 3 simultaneously (or overlapping) is that correct? When do you clutch out? after the revs drop?
Great video by the way. Also, with the ND2 Miata. I notice the revs jump quickly after i shift. Is that because i shift too slowly? I cannot shift any quicker. Do i need to blip throttle on up-shift to avoid this?
Step 2 clutch in technically has to come first because you have to disengage the clutch to shift, but it does appear that Steps 2 and 3 are happening simultaneously because it’s happening so quickly in real time.
I’m not sure what you mean with your ND2. Break it down a little more for me.
@@BrianMakse When I clutch in at low revs in the ND2 to upshift, the revs drop dramatically that by the time a finish shifting the clutch needs to bring up the revs again. Have you noticed that when your driving the ND2?
Different Brian here. I think I get what you're saying. In cars like your miata that don't have rev hang, I get back on the gas just a tiny bit earlier so the revs don't fall too low when upshifting. It's basically blipping the throttle like you were saying
Proper heel/toe. Thank you. When I see idiots try and contort their feet to actually use their heel on the throttle and toe on the brake, I laugh and cry at the impending apocalypse.
Are there videos with people demonstrating that technique?!?!???!!!
double clutch heal/toe 14 steps! let's begin 1. jk.
What’s double clutch? 🤷♂️
Let's go practice on my Miata...
Do it! Great car for this!
Thanks, I still need more practice.
Serious heel and toe with Hyundai???
Please go on about your expertise on the subject…
2:30 : true start of the video, end of obnoxiously long intro
Let me check...one second...no.
9:44 "stabs the throttle" not "stabs the brake pedal." Nice video though. Thanks.
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in my car, the throttle pedal is further down than the brake pedal, makes the whole heel toe sketchy, but i don't drive a sports car
I heel and toe every manual, sports car or otherwise!
Its difficult to curl like that if your pedals are far apart i use the ball of my foot and then twist up my foot and use the heel to blip the throttle.
Apparently thats the hard way yet it just comes naturally to me 😂
All depends on your pedal layout. Keep on practicing!