With all due respect to the M249 SAW, I think the Negev would make an AWESOME replacement in American Services. Perhaps the Rangers or the SEAL's should try it out, they could use a lighter LMG than the MK 46 and MK 48.
When I was in the Mexican Army tested the HK 21 I thought the platform would be more complex but I liked, how to change the barrel; but when I tested IWI Negev I say: Oh sweet lord!.. thanks!.. I tested, thanks to a friend of the federal police and wow!.. It´s lighter, less rough than the m60 and m249; and the recoil is gentler, when use any optic example: aimpoint or eotech, really you don´t close your eyes so abruptly, in my humble opinion I consider it an intelligent tool... long life to IWI and the brothers of Israel!
I always wanted to get behind on one these. From everything I've read and heard about it, the Negev is perhaps one of the best type of machine guns out there.
@@talknight2 You live next countries that you've basically kicked their asses since 1967, and your close ally America has been kicking their asses since the 90s. If Israel got brought into a surprise war the country would be prepared if even the cops can give suppressive fire.
I used one of those but with standard iron sights in the israeli TzaHaL (צ.ה.ל) or IDF. Its a hell of a compact tactical weapon , pretty powerful for being a light machine gun , it looks similar to the legendary Galil AR , and in my oponion it even sounds better , does anyone know where is it possible to buy it in the USA?
@R. Guardia I watched it again. It slaps the brass agaisnt the brass deflector so hard when ejecting, it dents the hell out of the brass. Not good if you're into reloading. With that said, I'm sure anyone who uses this isn't concerned with reloading spent brass.
Carried a M249 a lot in '06 and '08 and ran into a contractor with a Negev who let me fondle it for awhile and I fell hard. The Corps adoption of the IAR should have been put towards trialing the newer Negev models and if these are not in SOC armories, what a travesty.
I always thought the Negev was an incredibly interesting design that has a lot of features other machine-guns don't, like the fire selector and the short feed tray.
IWI are coming out with some awesome stuff. My Dad has one of the first lines of the Baby Eagle in 45 ACP and it has IMI on the grips and rolled stamped on the guns frame., 'It says Israel Military Industry'. Mr Vickers your videos are great and very informed on all the details of each firearm you are reviewing. Great job and i enjoy your channel very much. Thanks
Atlanta Light I agree. Belt feds are especially hard to find. Unfortunately, if they can't it with this, it would probably be 3000+ too, even if were semi auto. IWI is a notoriously expensive brand.
I AM ALIVE !!!!! I don't have a need for one. I'd take one if it were offered, but a standard AR is plenty. However, something like this would be cool to have. That's about it though.
Patjersey3000 well, to each his own, but you don’t think the inability to properly zero due to one mode of fire, the obviously inferior barrel locking mechanism, the gas regulator that requires partial disassembly, and usually a mallet to adjust, the non-fixed optics mount, or the extra 10+ pounds of unnecessary weight wouldn’t at least tempt you to ditch the 240 for something that clearly took the lessons learn from antiquated belt fed designs and fixed the problems? As for me, I’m about fed up with fighting with stuck hot barrels, spray and pray aiming, and lugging around that boat anchor.
I noticed one thing was not touched on in the video and it regards that mounting point just behind the bipod for the forward grip. To this day I wonder if that forward grip--which I've seen normally angled towards the left--can be mounted such that it can be angled towards the right for left eye dominant shooters.
We used the FN Mini 5.56 in Afghanistan but the British Army have got rid of these weapons at section level now and have gone a different way because of lessons learnt in Afghanistan they were finding that a lot of the time they were being engaged at longer ranges than the effective range of the weapon. So they started adding the Sharps Rifle L129A1, and kept the GPMG. The reason behind it was to keep accurate and long range fire so they started doing sharpshooter courses I believe (not the same as sniper courses.) so the L129A1 has become the replacement for the LSW role in the British Army infantry section.
10:50 actually they are doing entries with that, the standard idf fireteam has a lead marksman being number1 and a lead negevist being number 2. on breaches the lead marksman usually swaps with a breacher but the guy with the negev stays num2
well for one, the cops would probably get some bad back pains from carrying people like you and protecting them. If you think the cops are going to patrol the streets with this kind of gun, You're crazy - this is for special situations, border protection, use against militia groups etc.
Hi. Just one thing. As a Negev LMG operator, we Do No Run bayonets on it. The barrel attachments are for a very old IR laser marker (bottom) and an old ELBIT Falcon reflex sight (On top) which was never used because the barrel heat would kill it. The rear adaptor was for the old Litton Aquila night sight, but that was a heavy piece of shit...
You seem like a very tacticool guy. A man with a endless amount of experience. I could see you do quick videos on comparing us military branches and units, like 75th rangers vs rangers, etc.
Mr. Vickers, I would like to hear your impressions of shooting specific weapons rather than the video ending without your comments. You have a ton of experience shooting weapons I will never shoot and would enjoying hearing comparisons between similar weapon systems.
I like the fact that you can switch to semi auto and actually kick doors and clear rooms with this. This is a huge plus for special ops guys or counter terrorism units.
Are the Negev rifles straight up brass killers? Noticed lots of slow motion shots where it looks like the front right area before it necks down is just getting smashed to pieces on extraction. Any idea why or feedback as to what’s going on there?
DAAYYYYUUUMMM! It makes me wish I was a gubment or LEO agency so I could buy these. They make me SO moist. LOL A couple of notes: NOT reloaded friendly. Saw some SERIOUSLY mangled brass being extracted and tossed to the side. To trade from belt to mag fed the cyclic rate can be reduced to compensate for slower mag follower presentation of the next round. If swapped to slower rate to accommodate a magazine, is there any issue if you return back to belt-fed other than, maybe, a slower rate of fire? What EXCELLENT weapons systems and I'd expect NOTHING less from IWI! IF they made ALL the various weapons platforms I like and already own, they'd become my singular weapons manufacturer, FA or S.A., BAR NONE! Does that qualify me as a "Fan Boy?" Why, HE'LL YES!! And unashamedly so, too. IWI ALL the Way! Mr. Vickers, thank you for your video's and service to our GREAT Nation! If I'd have been SF during my stint in the Army, we would have been, and remained, CLOSE Friends. As it is, I can only live vicariously through your exploits and occasional video's on line. God Bless and Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Sir!
911LexVegas here's my biggest complaint about the Vegas shooting: they claimed to have found around 20 guns but we only saw two, both being ar 15s. I know damn well that ar 15s with a bump fire stock shoots 800 rpm, the rpm of the gun the shooter was using was 600. That has to be a belt fed machine gun, there's no way that's an ar 1, it might be an ak, but considering the recoil of it with a bump fire stock I'm not sure.
Matthew Pham exactly, I'm saying that the Vegas shooter had to have used a machine gun because its fire rate was slower and it would have been less accurate with a bump fire stock if it was a rifle with one.
Question? Has anyone done a 3 round burst belt feed? He mentioned over there, everyone serves! I actually met a person that served over there! What about a fore grip bipod for travel/setup? Is it better to have the bolt stay closed or stay open to prevent slam firing? About those chamber links, are they metal or like steel or aluminum? -Is it possible to have a plastic version? ounces = pounds = PAIN REGARDING THE GAS REGULATOR IS THE NEGEV OVER GASSED? What about a backpack belt feed version? Is there a prototype backpack version out there? What about shock absorbers for reduction of shock or less vibration?
Can you please film what is going on down range. Slow mo is cool and all but an over the shoulder shot of the shooter and targets would be a lot more interesting.
While I love the slow motion footage, some times I would like to see real speed to get a sense of the true cyclic rate. Like at least 30 rounds. I know I’m nitpicking, and this seems like an awesome gun, less bulky and lighter than some other alternatives, with a lot of good ideas built into it
IWI ceo:"make a new gun!"
Engineer:"what caliber ?"
IWI ceo:"yes"
Engineer:"ok... and how much recoil ?"
IWI ceo:"NO!"
Haha yes 😂
Negev? NEGEV?
*Rush B intensifies*
this negev can also use ar 15 magazines! *BULLSHIT!*
RASH B CYKA BLYAT!
OWNPlays Only noobs use 5.56. Glorious Soviet global elites use 7.62 Soviet ammunition
no, its non prime matchmaking intensifies
Dan Lorenzana OY VEY!!!
With all due respect to the M249 SAW, I think the Negev would make an AWESOME replacement in American Services. Perhaps the Rangers or the SEAL's should try it out, they could use a lighter LMG than the MK 46 and MK 48.
Totally agree
And when they run out of belted ammo they can use mags reliably
14:00 it looks incredible with the 30 round mag.
Belt fed looks cool but 30 rd mag in the Negev IWi..... 🤌🏾
When I was in the Mexican Army tested the HK 21 I thought the platform would be more complex but I liked, how to change the barrel; but when I tested IWI Negev I say: Oh sweet lord!.. thanks!.. I tested, thanks to a friend of the federal police and wow!.. It´s lighter, less rough than the m60 and m249; and the recoil is gentler, when use any optic example: aimpoint or eotech, really you don´t close your eyes so abruptly, in my humble opinion I consider it an intelligent tool... long life to IWI and the brothers of Israel!
Good luck being a federal police man is hard
HK21 is a beast man
❤🇮🇱
La Negev es un arte de ametralladora 🔥
When a gun channel is filled with CSGO players....
DELTA 5.1 what does that mean I keep seeing people comment about csgo players
Patjersey3000 its a video game and the negev is in the game
Rush B Cyka bylat...
Actually came here because of Girls Frontline :D
Yeah! came here to see my waifu.
$2000 laser beam
Nekomancer um lolicon 😢😭😍💦💦💦
1 negev, 1 smoke = win
LOL hahaha
$1700 now
actual trash now even with the beam
This guy from IWI is really good and professional. Great show Vickers, keep it up.
Combat specialist "Negev" reporting in, be prepared to make good use of me.
Did search for this comment
31000 material in heavy production and I got her
This guy from IWI has his shit together.
I always wanted to get behind on one these. From everything I've read and heard about it, the Negev is perhaps one of the best type of machine guns out there.
I love the IWI Negew 😉👍
And the Tavor of course.
Not sure cops should have this... But I definitely need one.
in israel yes, in the US no.
everywhere yes, 2nd amendment baby, it covers full auto, at least it would if it werent for unconstitutional bs
@@BrainEatPenguin Israeli cops don't need machineguns, nor rifles for that matter. We don't have shootouts out here.
@@talknight2 Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
@@talknight2 You live next countries that you've basically kicked their asses since 1967, and your close ally America has been kicking their asses since the 90s. If Israel got brought into a surprise war the country would be prepared if even the cops can give suppressive fire.
The SF model is an absolute beaut! *two thumbs way up!*
The IWI man is a Great guy! Larry of course! Cheers from Italy!
I used one of those but with standard iron sights in the israeli TzaHaL (צ.ה.ל) or IDF. Its a hell of a compact tactical weapon , pretty powerful for being a light machine gun , it looks similar to the legendary Galil AR , and in my oponion it even sounds better , does anyone know where is it possible to buy it in the USA?
Man, that thing murders the spent brass...
Hermann Goering lol
and you spelled insurgent terrorists wrong. none of us are perfect.
Too much extra weight to worry about spent brass.
@R. Guardia I watched it again. It slaps the brass agaisnt the brass deflector so hard when ejecting, it dents the hell out of the brass. Not good if you're into reloading. With that said, I'm sure anyone who uses this isn't concerned with reloading spent brass.
hands down best channel I'm surprised this channel not bigger this guy shows the most desired rifle
Carried a M249 a lot in '06 and '08 and ran into a contractor with a Negev who let me fondle it for awhile and I fell hard. The Corps adoption of the IAR should have been put towards trialing the newer Negev models and if these are not in SOC armories, what a travesty.
I hear the csgo guys coming
CRISPY Boy is that lord tachanka?
Silver Dino yes
Lord Chanka best god. RP-46 ftw.
LightSeeker258 wait so does he use the dp 28 or RP 46
CRISPY Boy Well RP46 is a variant of DP28 so either is fine. If I'm not wrong ubi calls it a RP46.
one of the best lmg I ever got the pleasure of firing
wish I had one
I always thought the Negev was an incredibly interesting design that has a lot of features other machine-guns don't, like the fire selector and the short feed tray.
That's absolutely awesome, I saw by the firing footage the Negev dings up the brass like my H&K 91 clone does.
IWI are coming out with some awesome stuff. My Dad has one of the first lines of the Baby Eagle in 45 ACP and it has IMI on the grips and rolled stamped on the guns frame., 'It says Israel Military Industry'. Mr Vickers your videos are great and very informed on all the details of each firearm you are reviewing. Great job and i enjoy your channel very much. Thanks
Alice Dexter What do you mean self aiming?
If they made a civilian semiautomatic version and began manufacturing 5.56x45mm already belted ammunition we preppers would make this a MUST BUY.
Atlanta Light especially if it came with a binary trigger!
Matt Gent there is no reasonably priced lmg/heavy support weapon for the civilian market. I think the semi M249 is $3,000. An RPK is hard to find.
Atlanta Light I agree. Belt feds are especially hard to find. Unfortunately, if they can't it with this, it would probably be 3000+ too, even if were semi auto. IWI is a notoriously expensive brand.
Atlanta Light
If youre rich its really nice to have an lmg that takes most stanag mags as well as belt
I AM ALIVE !!!!! I don't have a need for one. I'd take one if it were offered, but a standard AR is plenty. However, something like this would be cool to have. That's about it though.
Add that to the list of your greatest videos. It would sure be great if IWI would make a closed bolt, semi only version for us!
I REALLY ENJOY WATCHING LARRY'S CHANNEL!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Good Lord what a beautiful firearm. Best weapon ever made to this day.
Welp...this makes our M249s and M240s look like shit. Thanks for that!
Zachary De Jesus maybe our m249s but not our 240 Bravo's. They are superior trust me I wouldn't go to war with another crew-served weapon
Patjersey3000 well, to each his own, but you don’t think the inability to properly zero due to one mode of fire, the obviously inferior barrel locking mechanism, the gas regulator that requires partial disassembly, and usually a mallet to adjust, the non-fixed optics mount, or the extra 10+ pounds of unnecessary weight wouldn’t at least tempt you to ditch the 240 for something that clearly took the lessons learn from antiquated belt fed designs and fixed the problems? As for me, I’m about fed up with fighting with stuck hot barrels, spray and pray aiming, and lugging around that boat anchor.
@@AmericaFirstRifleman how can you even compare 5.56 to 7.62? If negev was made in larger calibre like let us say 7.62 you won't be saying the same 😅
the 249s ,yeah. because theyre shit on their own. the 240s are god tier machineguns though.
@That sorta irish guy it's 5.56 he is even shooting Ar mags from the weapon!! Get your facts straight
You guys are having too much fun 👍👍🔯💙🔯💙🔯
certainly learned a few things there
Mrgunsngear Channel
Not you? You are Mr. Gunsngear!
You know everything!
Say it ain't so.......😢
After watching this and the Forgotten Weapons vid I learned that the Negev dents its brass
ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT
The sound designer on these videos needs a god dam medal
Love the slo-mo and lots of action. Well done.
I fired an FN MAG in the Bolivian Army, man the recoil of the 7.62 Negev seems a lot easier to control
The super-slow-mo ejection at 14:13 is so strong it dents the empty cartridge
Thanks Larry and Tom for another great video
Love the longer videos Larry, the more LAV touching off full auto the better!
Very innovative LMG which features belt-fed, pouch or magazine-fed bullets. I suppose it's one of a kind LMG in the world.
The m249 does the same thing, but much less reliably
I noticed one thing was not touched on in the video and it regards that mounting point just behind the bipod for the forward grip. To this day I wonder if that forward grip--which I've seen normally angled towards the left--can be mounted such that it can be angled towards the right for left eye dominant shooters.
Seems like a real smooth shooter on full fun mode
Such a well designed weapon..Indian Army got 16000 of these..largest order for IWI
Such a beautiful piece of machinery
We used the FN Mini 5.56 in Afghanistan but the British Army have got rid of these weapons at section level now and have gone a different way because of lessons learnt in Afghanistan they were finding that a lot of the time they were being engaged at longer ranges than the effective range of the weapon. So they started adding the Sharps Rifle L129A1, and kept the GPMG. The reason behind it was to keep accurate and long range fire so they started doing sharpshooter courses I believe (not the same as sniper courses.) so the L129A1 has become the replacement for the LSW role in the British Army infantry section.
CS:GO players are going to be happy. Great video. Great work with IWI.
RIP that brass.
Thought i was the only one watching that brass getting all kinds of fucked up.
It's a secondary weapon to take care of enemies flanking you!
Congratulation to IWI, is a Very good Brand.
This thing is a beast.. EL EL ISRAEL!
Thank you for this. It is a gun I have always liked.
This is a miracle of engineering. Those things are dead on. The vibration is minimal. The barrel does not move at all
Was Larrys beard confisciated by the ATF?
He let the other guy hold onto it for the video
Lol 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 by the ATF
10:50 actually they are doing entries with that, the standard idf fireteam has a lead marksman being number1 and a lead negevist being number 2. on breaches the lead marksman usually swaps with a breacher but the guy with the negev stays num2
Nice one IWI
Impressive squad weapons.
Very nice designs with minimal flex.
Should be very accurate and reliable for weapons of this type.
great weapon nothing left out! great episode can always count on the Israelis ingenuity!
13:30 That is pretty awesome, the casing is knocking into the ejected belt midair
what a cool looking piece of machinery
"Pick up the Negev soviet"
'pick up my negev pick up my goddamn negev' - Cyanide
Belt fed weapons for police... what could go wrong?
because Israel police has constant Threat of Kitchen Knife
Police in Mexico use machine guns.
well for one, the cops would probably get some bad back pains from carrying people like you and protecting them.
If you think the cops are going to patrol the streets with this kind of gun, You're crazy - this is for special situations, border protection, use against militia groups etc.
@@admindadipancar5494 Police in Israel don't use machineguns or rifles. The Border Guards do, but they're basically a branch of the military.
I 'd like to see the accuracy of these weapons with VERY high quality ammo.
Those are beautiful weapons!
I NEED a dozen. Please & Thank you.
Hi. Just one thing. As a Negev LMG operator, we Do No Run bayonets on it. The barrel attachments are for a very old IR laser marker (bottom) and an old ELBIT Falcon reflex sight (On top) which was never used because the barrel heat would kill it. The rear adaptor was for the old Litton Aquila night sight, but that was a heavy piece of shit...
Thanks for the clarification
@@VickersTacticalLAV you bet! Great video though!
You seem like a very tacticool guy. A man with a endless amount of experience. I could see you do quick videos on comparing us military branches and units, like 75th rangers vs rangers, etc.
Does that thing have a case deflector or destroyer? It caved in every 3rd or 4th brass case.
You could say it G3'd the brass.
It is a fluted chamber like the HKs to make feeding in dirty environments more reliable. The military is not concerned with reloading.
😮 The slow motion footage (excellent as always Cameraman or Woman) Barrel harmonics weren't even a factor. Those PeacePipes are dialed to perfection.
i didn't know this gun would be this versatile
UWU Negev
Sorry it was just to tempting
@@chubbydanny1999 Pog
*looks at ammo bag* UwU what's this?? 150 rounds? *ahegao face*
I think my own comment just gave me cancer of the butt.
@@caineyvorous r/noahgettheboat
That thing is a work of art.
Great feature to an LMG, semi/fully automatic.
*Here that?*
*That’s the sound of an a long push*
Wow. Never seen a gun dent all the spent brass on the way out. That extracter really yanks them out of there
Mr. Vickers, I would like to hear your impressions of shooting specific weapons rather than the video ending without your comments. You have a ton of experience shooting weapons I will never shoot and would enjoying hearing comparisons between similar weapon systems.
wow, i`m impressed, thats very innovative
2 questions: 1)Does the ratchet system have an effect on the trigger pull?
2) Is the chamber fully supported? Great video.
The ratchet system has no affect on the pull. The chamber is fully supported in the reciever block.
Is it normal for brass to be so dinged up after ejecting from a belt-fed?
I like the fact that you can switch to semi auto and actually kick doors and clear rooms with this. This is a huge plus for special ops guys or counter terrorism units.
Which optic is on the 7.62 NATO version? Looks like an ACOG bit it's not.....
Mepro 4X
Are the Negev rifles straight up brass killers? Noticed lots of slow motion shots where it looks like the front right area before it necks down is just getting smashed to pieces on extraction. Any idea why or feedback as to what’s going on there?
Negev 7, please! Yes! Most definitely, yes! Affirmative! Indubitably yes!
My only question is "How do I buy a semi auto only version of this as a civilian"?
DAAYYYYUUUMMM!
It makes me wish I was a gubment or LEO agency so I could buy these. They make me SO moist. LOL
A couple of notes:
NOT reloaded friendly. Saw some SERIOUSLY mangled brass being extracted and tossed to the side.
To trade from belt to mag fed the cyclic rate can be reduced to compensate for slower mag follower presentation of the next round. If swapped to slower rate to accommodate a magazine, is there any issue if you return back to belt-fed other than, maybe, a slower rate of fire?
What EXCELLENT weapons systems and I'd expect NOTHING less from IWI!
IF they made ALL the various weapons platforms I like and already own, they'd become my singular weapons manufacturer, FA or S.A., BAR NONE!
Does that qualify me as a "Fan Boy?"
Why, HE'LL YES!!
And unashamedly so, too.
IWI ALL the Way!
Mr. Vickers, thank you for your video's and service to our GREAT Nation!
If I'd have been SF during my stint in the Army, we would have been, and remained, CLOSE Friends.
As it is, I can only live vicariously through your exploits and occasional video's on line.
God Bless and Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, Sir!
It will still function. But as the weapon gets filthy, it's better to leave it on the regular gas setting.
Any chance for an civilian version just like the fn 249s?
Not in the forseable future...sorry
The closest thing would be a belt fed upper receiver conversion kit for an ar and a bump stock
No reason to buy a cucked machine gun honestly.
Why should police have these? If they cant even get the las vegas investigation right?
911LexVegas here's my biggest complaint about the Vegas shooting: they claimed to have found around 20 guns but we only saw two, both being ar 15s. I know damn well that ar 15s with a bump fire stock shoots 800 rpm, the rpm of the gun the shooter was using was 600. That has to be a belt fed machine gun, there's no way that's an ar 1, it might be an ak, but considering the recoil of it with a bump fire stock I'm not sure.
Bump fire stock recoil can vary by quite a bit, it all depends on the shooter.
Matthew Pham exactly, I'm saying that the Vegas shooter had to have used a machine gun because its fire rate was slower and it would have been less accurate with a bump fire stock if it was a rifle with one.
The fire rate varied throughout the shooting, machine guns for the most part don't change ROF. I'm still pretty sure it was a bump fire stock.
exactly!
Any info on weight of every one of those?
I would love to see a closed bolt semi-auto version for the civilian market. Does IWI have any plans for that, Larry Vickers?
In US maybe in some future not too distant time, man!... In this moment only provided to armed forces and counter-terrorist police units.
Question?
Has anyone done a 3 round burst belt feed?
He mentioned over there, everyone serves!
I actually met a person that served over there!
What about a fore grip bipod for travel/setup?
Is it better to have the bolt stay closed or stay open to prevent slam firing?
About those chamber links, are they metal or like steel or aluminum?
-Is it possible to have a plastic version?
ounces = pounds = PAIN
REGARDING THE GAS REGULATOR IS THE NEGEV OVER GASSED?
What about a backpack belt feed version?
Is there a prototype backpack version out there?
What about shock absorbers for reduction of shock or less vibration?
Its simply the world's best LMG
the dents those things put into the brass are unreal
it's actually pronounced "ne-gev" .
It is named after an area in Israel called the Negev.
I need this for home-defense~!
Lol "home defense" with a fucking machine gun , is a whole army going to invade your house 😂
@@PhysicsViolator its a joke man
@@PhysicsViolator maybe 🗿
I like the magazine setup
Why does the camera always make 5.56 look bigger than it actually is
Can you please film what is going on down range. Slow mo is cool and all but an over the shoulder shot of the shooter and targets would be a lot more interesting.
Your videos are FIRE
New SAW of the Indian Army..
when do I get one Larry?
Merry christmas! :)
While I love the slow motion footage, some times I would like to see real speed to get a sense of the true cyclic rate. Like at least 30 rounds. I know I’m nitpicking, and this seems like an awesome gun, less bulky and lighter than some other alternatives, with a lot of good ideas built into it
Would who win?
5 terrorist rushing to b
or?
Me with a Negev hiding in truck
Likes: Allies
Comments: Terrorists
I just love IWI Negev
At 14:14 the case is hitting the shell deflector so hard it is putting a massive dent in the case.