It's nice when there's an episode that lets a supporting character like Gary shine, and that does not even come anywhere near the subject matter of missing spouses. Ron Silver was very likable and made Gary a decent sort, and Gary was even better when he makes the decision here to not jeopardize his good friendship with Brenda.
I always thought Brenda and Rhoda were beautiful. One huge disconnect for me, was that Brenda especially, was supposed to be "un-datable". Her hair in earlier episodes was a bit severe for her facial structure, a bit "plain", but here, she is beyond pretty, 4:43 she is gorgeous!! The bangs and her hair pulled back, so perfect. Valerie and Julie have incredible eyes, cheekbones, perfect noses....(I am Jealous!!) where did they ever get the idea to make them "plain"????
There was nothing wrong with Gary Levy. He was actually good looking and had a great sense of humour. Brenda could have done worse. RIP Ron Silver...gone too soon but not forgotten.
Meir Wise Fair point....but Brenda deserved better. At this point, even though he's likeable....at very least, the guy has 'issues'. Seems crazy to talk of the show like this when it's a light comedy. On paper though, the characters and the broad picture of what's happened since Episode One of Season One could make a rather serious theatre play!!!
@Joshua Swain Well it was just a style. It may look strange today, but I lived during those times and I can say that it did not seem strange at the time.
@@faithfulforever6331 Gary's outfit in the beginning of the episode with the jeans, turtleneck, and oversized denim shirt is the outfit I'm wearing this weekend. Lol.
Renée Lippin, Gary's sister, was also seen earlier this season in "Together Again for the First Time". It was in a different role as a patron of the singles bar who gets seated at Rhoda and Joe's table.
I CANNOT believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually starting to like and be attracted to Gary!!! He didn't wear his glasses once in this episode. He just seemed to be more humble and nice.
Maybe they've decided to make him a normal person, just a normal guy, instead of a stereotypical lounge-lizard disco-dork. It's unusual for a male character not to be a two-dimensional stereotype in this show. But the question is, can they sustain it and keep at least one male character more subtle and nuanced?
Gary's sister was played by the same actress who was in the 'group' sessions of Doctor Bob Hartley on "The Bob Newhart Show". She was emotionally damaged by her father's rejection of her and her unhappy love life. Very funny.
She was also in an episode earlier in the season, "Together Again For The First Time," when Joe and Rhoda went out on a date and they had to share a table with the other couple.
Just noticed a small detail while watching.. Rhoda changed her mind about having coffee, Brenda offered her a cup,she turned it down, but then got up a little later and poured herself some...
@@MonaMonatte Right?! No one gets how lame that set design was to convey a usable kitchenette for someone like Rhoda. She would have gone nuts trying to use those cabinets w all those baskets in the way!
They had to heat up the Chinese food in a conventional oven. Microwave ovens had been out, e.g. the Amana Radar Range, but they weren't yet common in every household.
@@skunk69x29 Why do you say it was a "real disgusting time?" I loved when the microwaves were available and affordable to the public in general. Before microwaves if we wanted to heat up anything in a conventional oven, it took forever. A TV dinner took 30 to 45 minutes to heat up and now all it takes is 5 minutes. And with the coming of the microwaves, the choice we had in quick to heat frozen dinners skyrocketed. Before microwaves, all we really had was Banquet and Swanson TV dinners in the foil trays. Now there are all kinds of choices. Personally with all the inventions of the 20th century, the microwave is easily my favorite, way beyond the cell phone.
@@skunk69x29 I do plenty of my own cooking conventionally; believe me. But the microwave is still great for quick meals and for heating up leftovers. And I take vitamins for the nutrition and taste isn't that important to me. I do do a lot of stove top and oven cooking; but it makes such a huge mess that I don't want to do it often. I am only one person, but I do understand that cooking on a stove is best for a family. I really like the convenience of a microwave and some things the microwave makes just as well as conventional cooking at a fraction of the time. Peanut brittle is a good example. There are microwave cookbooks that show you what is best to cook in a microwave. I wouldn't cook a roast or steaks in a microwave; but I would partially put a baked potato in the microwave and then put it into the oven to finish it. I have health problems and many times am just to tired to cook a full meal on the stove, but I do so when I have the energy or when I have company.
@@skunk69x29 Because all I am saying is that I like that microwaves as an invention and that I use them. And yet you are making all kinds of conclusions that I am on social media too much and I need to "unplug youtube." You are doing much more than stating an opinion. You are making conclusions that are way off base and more than that, uncalled for.
I'm glad that both of you ladies admit that phenomenon happens with you. I remember when I was 20 I was in love with a 28-year-old lady who ^ much like Brenda just went with the moment, had a lot of fun and happiness with me, then pulled back and "needed time" and seemed miserable. "This is going too fast. We hardly know each other (we knew each other for almost two years). Blah blah." Like... Why?
So do men. Frankly I’ve skipped past some of this series because I would have ditched the husband the day he walked out. I’m not going to flog a dead horse. However, I’ve often found that there is nothing worse than one half not saying anything and it can drive the other mad and they get desperate at trying to get the other half to just say something! Then they have the audacity to blame the one who ‘talks the thing to death’.
9:39 The future Maggie Seaver bought a coat from the future Valerie Hogan and walks by Marge Simpson on the way out! (Joanna Kerns appeared here under her birth name--Joanna deVarona)
Very cool observation!! So interesting how things turn out....and to think Brenda/Julie Kavner/Marge on "The Simpsons" has been a continual character for over 20 years! Probably more, I don't know the exact date when "The Simpsons" started:) 😄
I thought the same; things like this shatter my Suspension of Disbelief. Plus: one would've thought that Gary would have made a couple of bank runs with cash instead of letting it all build up the entire day into a massive pile. But this is fiction, and writers seldom think of every realistic detail.
@@eduardo_corrochio "Rhoda" was always a great show. Some people never liked it but it had some really outstanding stuff in it. The whole thing of Rhoda marrying Joe and it being called a mistake was completely off-based. She had to marry him, do that for awhile, and then get back to doing what she did best, and that was being single and being a successful working woman who didn't necessarily need a man in her life.
@@BenjiOrthopedic Agreed. A single Rhoda meant freedom and no ties, therefore more story/comedy opportunities for the character, from dating to jobs/bosses to whatever the writers wanted to explore.
@@eduardo_corrochio In her autobio, Valerie did say that she felt badly that she never got a "last episode" like Mary did on her show...to wrap up the character of Rhoda. Instead, the network cancelled the show mid-season and they all just never came back to the studio. Quite sad.
@@BenjiOrthopedic That had to have been a huge emotional blow to the cast and crew. Imagine doing that for about 39 weeks each year and then it is instantly cut short without any end or closure. Kind of rotten, but that's showbiz sometimes. I agree: truly sad. This reminds me. Writer/producer Susan Harris felt so bad that her crew and cast had to stop doing Golden Girls after seven years that she felt a spinoff would at least keep them all working for a while. They couldn't recapture that magic, especially without Bea Arthur, but it was at least a small way of keeping most of the gang together. But, alas, it would only last 24 episodes. I recently re-watched it on Hulu and while it isn't the fireball of a sitcom that The Golden Girls was, it still had its moments now and then. The best thing for me in Golden Palace was a guest appearance from Bobcat Goldthwait (a comedian I usually didn't care for at all back then) in the second episode, "Promotional Considerations". He stole the show. It was a case of the right actor in the right role. But I digress.
The character of Brenda had been created that way. So when she started losing weight, she still had a low self image; she was still very insecure and afraid of rejection. But here's the thing: they were having Brenda relive Rhoda's experience on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The character of Rhoda started out as a bit of a "schlub"; she was Mary's insecure, overweight sidekick. Gradually, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Rhoda lost weight and started feeling good about herself. But it didn't happen overnight; she was constantly making fun of herself, even holding a tasty treat in her hand and saying, " I don't know why I'm putting this in my mouth; I should just apply it directly to my hips."
@@davidmusicmaker That made so much sense to me and I think you have a good point. They used your formula exactly for the success of show. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
Renee Lippin was always great - her "Newhart Show" appearances, alongside Jack Riley (Mr. Carlin) were classic. Some people mistook her for Wendie Jo Sperber - they looked alike and were both so talented.
I liked Gary from his very first appearance on the show. Even though he tried to come off as a cheesy, womanizing swinger to seem "cool", you could always tell he's really just a sweet guy. I hope he and Brenda get together. They've got that thing that Brenda didn't have with her ex fiance. "Lust." 😉
I've said this in another episode of Rhoda, but they should have made Gary a gay character. If the writers would have done that, they would have had the whole American gay community watching in the 1970's. He was so cute!!
He really was cute. This was the era when gay characters were becoming prominent on TV, so it was feasible. This season of Rhoda was 1976, and the following year the sitcom Soap would feature an openly gay character named Jody Dallas in the main cast, played by Billy Crystal. I'm not sure who the very first gay character in a sitcom was (it might actually have been Jody on Soap) but it had to have happened in this time period.
@@dee-litee4494 Choosing one-sided love? Wow, that is *beyond* settling for the lower shelf prize at the fair. She may have had nice things and a guy who adored her (plain and paunchy as he was), but after a while there would be a void in her heart. But she'd fill it with Big Macs and fries.
The clothes at Gary's store looked really nice. I don't know why he wasn't getting the customers. Now days he would probably have plenty. He was cute. I thought he was being irresponsible with that wad of cash, holding it in the open in a store in NYC and wanting to toss it in the air. When Gary and Brenda were talking in Rhoda's kitchen, Rhoda was irritating when she kept bugging Brenda about cooking some food. Rhoda keeps harshly judging other people's relationships as if she is this all-knowing person who knows what's best for everyone. She needs to examine her own that she had with Joe. It sure bombed quick. Brenda acts like she is scared of Gary, as if she were 15. He is no stranger to her.
I think it was more personable and touching to kiss hello and goodbye. If it happened to be family that didn't mean there was any romantic-type feelings going on whatsoever.
oh thank you...I remember now...I was researching him on some website and it said he used to regularly volunteerred on a suicide hotline. Not surprising with that soothing voice. ! Never occured to me that Garfield was hisvoice too. Didnt sound the same
So they both have fun together, are attracted to each other, it's easy and not forced and they don't have to put on or try to impress each other ..... And that's a problem? It's almost like the show didn't want their characters to be happy They should've had Joe and Rhoda hook back up and Gary and Brenda could've dated.
Brenda was right! Friends used to always help each other. But they nrver charged. It was done in love. In this situation though i csn see hom being able to give them some money.
Maybe this is a dumb question, I noticed Rhoda told Gary and Brenda to use the oven to heat up the Chinese food...but did people not really have microwaves in their homes at this point in time? I thought they were invented in the 50s so I would think in the 70s people had them.
@@michaelmitchell5098 Thanks for explaining. I think that's what I enjoy about watching these older shows, it's fun way to learn history. I'm a 90s kid btw.
The only thing I saw was the shadows from the two actors in the scene. There was no other people there. Don't you realized that they clear the set when they are doing a show?
MsSunshine610 First off, MsSunshine610, don't call me stupid. Can you not make a civilized comment without all the vitriol? Second of all, no, Jewish people cannot eat pork, even the reformed Jews. The dietary laws apply to all Jews, reformed or not. So who's the stupid one here? It's not me.
MsSunshine610 One does not have to be ultra orthodox to follow dietary laws. Even many non religious Jews follow the dietary laws simply because the custom had been passed down as family tradition. BTW...Ms Sunshine you are not.
Everything was jeans, jeans, and more jeans, when I was growing up in the 1970's. So why was Gary Levy unable to make a success of his jeans store? What was he doing wrong?
Yeah that seemed to be the style in those days! lol. Men didn’t do much to try to hide anything! lol. But then, some fashions these days are just about as bad. For men AND women.
Just look at those 1970s style and fashion. Gary had kissed his sister. Yak! This must be a typical American thing with siblings. I have never kissed my sister.
+Warp Prime 42 I have kissed my Sister but not on the lips, I always kissed my Father also, but not on the lips either. I guess it's a French extraction thing.
Gary kissed Brenda - who is not his sister. I don't understand your comment. Also, my dad (God rest his soul) would kiss me on the lips when I was a child going to bed to show me that he loves me and I don't think that is weird. It is not like he made out with me or stuck his tongue down my throat. Just a loving thing my dad did.
He kissed his sister on the lips when she entered the store. That's what commentor is referring to. I don't know why I'm typing this, the comment was left years ago. Duh me!
It's not typical for a guy to kiss his sister hello on the lips in America, but I'm sure it happens. My family wasn't like that; as a grownup I'd hug my sister or just say "Hello" when we'd get together. It depends on the family ... on how demonstrative the parents are. Some siblings hug hello and goodbye, some just say "Hi", and then some avoid each other like slow death-- because of past grudges. :)
Gary was a good guy. We need more Garys in the world....
Loved it when all three of them were on the show. Ron brought alot to the show and their chemistry was great.
Ron Silver was such an incredible actor and talent He is missed
My goodness did they dress nice back in the 70’s.
Love the bohemian hippie style!
Yes, back then we all had personal wardrobe experts and also makeup experts to help us look great before we left the house. Ah, those were the days!
I lived it
It's nice when there's an episode that lets a supporting character like Gary shine, and that does not even come anywhere near the subject matter of missing spouses. Ron Silver was very likable and made Gary a decent sort, and Gary was even better when he makes the decision here to not jeopardize his good friendship with Brenda.
I see this episode all the time ....such a cute episode regarding innocent emotions ....God Bless Ron Silver ........
Both Brenda and Rhoda were so pretty in this episode. I seriously doubt that Brenda would have had any trouble getting a date then, in real life.
I agree. Brenda is a doll..
I always thought Brenda and Rhoda were beautiful.
One huge disconnect for me, was that Brenda especially, was supposed to be "un-datable".
Her hair in earlier episodes was a bit severe for her facial structure, a bit "plain", but here, she is beyond pretty, 4:43 she is gorgeous!!
The bangs and her hair pulled back, so perfect.
Valerie and Julie have incredible eyes, cheekbones, perfect noses....(I am Jealous!!) where did they ever get the idea to make them "plain"????
Ron actually did grow up in the clothing business. His father owned clothing stores. A little trivia for ya.😊
Cool ❤. Awesome!
There was nothing wrong with Gary Levy. He was actually good looking and had a great sense of humour. Brenda could have done worse. RIP Ron Silver...gone too soon but not forgotten.
Meir Wise Fair point....but Brenda deserved better. At this point, even though he's likeable....at very least, the guy has 'issues'.
Seems crazy to talk of the show like this when it's a light comedy. On paper though, the characters and the broad picture of what's happened since Episode One of Season One could make a rather serious theatre play!!!
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I always liked Gary Levy's hair and I know he fit in very well with his clothes in the 70's; but looking at them now, yuk.
@Joshua Swain Well it was just a style. It may look strange today, but I lived during those times and I can say that it did not seem strange at the time.
@@faithfulforever6331 Gary's outfit in the beginning of the episode with the jeans, turtleneck, and oversized denim shirt is the outfit I'm wearing this weekend. Lol.
Brenda's so cute and innocent.
The love of my life!☺️
So great! Sometimes in life this happens! Really dramatic ending! Loved it!
Renée Lippin, Gary's sister, was also seen earlier this season in "Together Again for the First Time". It was in a different role as a patron of the singles bar who gets seated at Rhoda and Joe's table.
I CANNOT believe I'm saying this, but I'm actually starting to like and be attracted to Gary!!! He didn't wear his glasses once in this episode. He just seemed to be more humble and nice.
Emily Edwards Agreed...he is so nice here. This is my fave episode so far of Season 3.
Carrie m
Ron Silver was quite a handsome guy.
Maybe they've decided to make him a normal person, just a normal guy, instead of a stereotypical lounge-lizard disco-dork. It's unusual for a male character not to be a two-dimensional stereotype in this show. But the question is, can they sustain it and keep at least one male character more subtle and nuanced?
I love this show.
I love this one
GREAT SHOW,
Gary's sister was played by the same actress who was in the 'group' sessions of Doctor Bob Hartley on "The Bob Newhart Show". She was emotionally damaged by her father's rejection of her and her unhappy love life. Very funny.
She was also in an episode earlier in the season, "Together Again For The First Time," when Joe and Rhoda went out on a date and they had to share a table with the other couple.
Ya, hilarious. Very sensitive of you. Do you also watch car crashes and laugh your head off?
Renee Lippin is that actress's name. Another nember of the MTM players.
Now I am craving Chinese food.
I like Gary.
Just noticed a small detail while watching.. Rhoda changed her mind about having coffee, Brenda offered her a cup,she turned it down, but then got up a little later and poured herself some...
@Berry Harbour yep lol
@@sylviacoffey5645i noticed that too
Didn't care for Rhoda when I was a kid. couldn't relate, but love the show as an adult. I have seen every episode.
I miss this show!
Brenda looks
Cute here
i love brendas posters
Hahaha the set designers who hung all those baskets really didn’t understand cabinets.
Didn't have to. The cabinets were very seldom used.
Those baskets all over the cupboards starting to give me a headache😂😂. Too much… lol
@@MonaMonatte Right?! No one gets how lame that set design was to convey a usable kitchenette for someone like Rhoda. She would have gone nuts trying to use those cabinets w all those baskets in the way!
They had to heat up the Chinese food in a conventional oven. Microwave ovens had been out, e.g. the Amana Radar Range, but they weren't yet common in every household.
@@skunk69x29 Why do you say it was a "real disgusting time?" I loved when the microwaves were available and affordable to the public in general. Before microwaves if we wanted to heat up anything in a conventional oven, it took forever. A TV dinner took 30 to 45 minutes to heat up and now all it takes is 5 minutes. And with the coming of the microwaves, the choice we had in quick to heat frozen dinners skyrocketed. Before microwaves, all we really had was Banquet and Swanson TV dinners in the foil trays. Now there are all kinds of choices. Personally with all the inventions of the 20th century, the microwave is easily my favorite, way beyond the cell phone.
@@skunk69x29 I do plenty of my own cooking conventionally; believe me. But the microwave is still great for quick meals and for heating up leftovers. And I take vitamins for the nutrition and taste isn't that important to me. I do do a lot of stove top and oven cooking; but it makes such a huge mess that I don't want to do it often. I am only one person, but I do understand that cooking on a stove is best for a family. I really like the convenience of a microwave and some things the microwave makes just as well as conventional cooking at a fraction of the time. Peanut brittle is a good example. There are microwave cookbooks that show you what is best to cook in a microwave. I wouldn't cook a roast or steaks in a microwave; but I would partially put a baked potato in the microwave and then put it into the oven to finish it. I have health problems and many times am just to tired to cook a full meal on the stove, but I do so when I have the energy or when I have company.
And no one has ever complained when I cook a meal for them. I've never come across a person yet who doesn't like my cooking.
@@skunk69x29 Because all I am saying is that I like that microwaves as an invention and that I use them. And yet you are making all kinds of conclusions that I am on social media too much and I need to "unplug youtube." You are doing much more than stating an opinion. You are making conclusions that are way off base and more than that, uncalled for.
And then you are telling me I am "bent out of shape."
Really love Joe....they should have let them get back together again.....
Lol this is why none of their relationships work out. Before anything even happens, they go talk the thing to death!
Now, THAT’S funny! And so true. Comedic truth. Women do that. We over analyze way too much.
I'm glad that both of you ladies admit that phenomenon happens with you.
I remember when I was 20 I was in love with a 28-year-old lady who ^ much like Brenda just went with the moment, had a lot of fun and happiness with me, then pulled back and "needed time" and seemed miserable.
"This is going too fast. We hardly know each other (we knew each other for almost two years). Blah blah."
Like... Why?
So do men. Frankly I’ve skipped past some of this series because I would have ditched the husband the day he walked out. I’m not going to flog a dead horse. However, I’ve often found that there is nothing worse than one half not saying anything and it can drive the other mad and they get desperate at trying to get the other half to just say something! Then they have the audacity to blame the one who ‘talks the thing to death’.
I haven't seen this since the year it came from m TV, thank you,
Love this episode 😂❤ and this era of comedy 🎭 tv.
The red runners crack me up. Lol. 🤣
I love when Brenda is trying to wave more light into the room from the refrigerator Her personality is so adorable
9:39 The future Maggie Seaver bought a coat from the future Valerie Hogan and walks by Marge Simpson on the way out!
(Joanna Kerns appeared here under her birth name--Joanna deVarona)
Very cool observation!! So interesting how things turn out....and to think Brenda/Julie Kavner/Marge on "The Simpsons" has been a continual character for over 20 years! Probably more, I don't know the exact date when "The Simpsons" started:) 😄
this one fella so reminds me of Howard on the Big Bang
Same here ☺️
THE NEUROTIC GIRL FROM THE BOB NEWHART SHOW!!!
poor Gary is dead now ! (ron silver).I miss ida
Everyone is now. Julie Kavner is the only surviving cast member
@@gwenwachsman3739 Not true, Ray Buktanika, the guy who played Johnny ( vegas ) and several others are still alive. Also Barabara Sharma among others.
Both of them were great actors
$14,265.90 was huge money in 1976 for a day's worth of sales in a small brick and mortar store!
I thought the same; things like this shatter my Suspension of Disbelief. Plus: one would've thought that Gary would have made a couple of bank runs with cash instead of letting it all build up the entire day into a massive pile. But this is fiction, and writers seldom think of every realistic detail.
@@eduardo_corrochio "Rhoda" was always a great show. Some people never liked it but it had some really outstanding stuff in it. The whole thing of Rhoda marrying Joe and it being called a mistake was completely off-based. She had to marry him, do that for awhile, and then get back to doing what she did best, and that was being single and being a successful working woman who didn't necessarily need a man in her life.
@@BenjiOrthopedic Agreed. A single Rhoda meant freedom and no ties, therefore more story/comedy opportunities for the character, from dating to jobs/bosses to whatever the writers wanted to explore.
@@eduardo_corrochio In her autobio, Valerie did say that she felt badly that she never got a "last episode" like Mary did on her show...to wrap up the character of Rhoda. Instead, the network cancelled the show mid-season and they all just never came back to the studio. Quite sad.
@@BenjiOrthopedic That had to have been a huge emotional blow to the cast and crew. Imagine doing that for about 39 weeks each year and then it is instantly cut short without any end or closure. Kind of rotten, but that's showbiz sometimes. I agree: truly sad.
This reminds me. Writer/producer Susan Harris felt so bad that her crew and cast had to stop doing Golden Girls after seven years that she felt a spinoff would at least keep them all working for a while. They couldn't recapture that magic, especially without Bea Arthur, but it was at least a small way of keeping most of the gang together. But, alas, it would only last 24 episodes. I recently re-watched it on Hulu and while it isn't the fireball of a sitcom that The Golden Girls was, it still had its moments now and then. The best thing for me in Golden Palace was a guest appearance from Bobcat Goldthwait (a comedian I usually didn't care for at all back then) in the second episode, "Promotional Considerations". He stole the show. It was a case of the right actor in the right role. But I digress.
It’s sad that even when Julie Kavner lost weight for this show they still had her do fat jokes.
I wonder if those jokes ever bothered her..
The character of Brenda had been created that way. So when she started losing weight, she still had a low self image; she was still very insecure and afraid of rejection. But here's the thing: they were having Brenda relive Rhoda's experience on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The character of Rhoda started out as a bit of a "schlub"; she was Mary's insecure, overweight sidekick. Gradually, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Rhoda lost weight and started feeling good about herself. But it didn't happen overnight; she was constantly making fun of herself, even holding a tasty treat in her hand and saying, " I don't know why I'm putting this in my mouth; I should just apply it directly to my hips."
@@davidmusicmaker That made so much sense to me and I think you have a good point. They used your formula exactly for the success of show. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".
Yup. :/. Lame. Poor thing
Carlton the door man. Genius.
Renee Lippin was always great - her "Newhart Show" appearances, alongside Jack Riley (Mr. Carlin) were classic. Some people mistook her for Wendie Jo Sperber - they looked alike and were both so talented.
Bank tellers sure didn't get paid much, and still don't. Rhoda's sparkly red high tops were popular in the 1980s.
Gary: "Tell me, I need all the help I can get" also Gary: "I haven't reached the point yet, where I take advice from a downstairs neighbor" 😄
Brenda is 24? Whaa, I thought she was 22 a couple episodes ago
If you look closely you can tell that the set for Gary's store is the same set that used to be Rhoda and Joe's apartment.
Omg yes!!!!
oh wow yes I can see that Haaaa thanks for pointing that out
Very economical, re-dressing an old set. They've been doing things like that since "I Love Lucy".
Same plants too!
Ron Silver was actually a good actor. Check out The Entity, Silkwood, Enemies; A Love Story.
And ‘Reversal of Fortune’
I liked Gary from his very first appearance on the show. Even though he tried to come off as a cheesy, womanizing swinger to seem "cool", you could always tell he's really just a sweet guy. I hope he and Brenda get together. They've got that thing that Brenda didn't have with her ex fiance. "Lust." 😉
I've said this in another episode of Rhoda, but they should have made Gary a gay character. If the writers would have done that, they would have had the whole American gay community watching in the 1970's. He was so cute!!
He really was cute. This was the era when gay characters were becoming prominent on TV, so it was feasible. This season of Rhoda was 1976, and the following year the sitcom Soap would feature an openly gay character named Jody Dallas in the main cast, played by Billy Crystal. I'm not sure who the very first gay character in a sitcom was (it might actually have been Jody on Soap) but it had to have happened in this time period.
Ron was sexy! 😂😁😁😁
Disagree totally. He wasn’t gay for one. Gay characters were not openly shown in sitcoms or anywhere on TV in the seventies
I still love studded denim
Brenda should have ended up with Gary instead of the other guy. In my opinion.
Brenda should've married the guy who owned 3 McDonald's and was crazy about her. 😍
@@dee-litee4494 Choosing one-sided love? Wow, that is *beyond* settling for the lower shelf prize at the fair. She may have had nice things and a guy who adored her (plain and paunchy as he was), but after a while there would be a void in her heart. But she'd fill it with Big Macs and fries.
I know! They were & STILL are, although Valerie passed away.
I doubt that Gary would have had such problems in his store. He was too good looking and too charming not to have done well in his business.
The clothes at Gary's store looked really nice. I don't know why he wasn't getting the customers. Now days he would probably have plenty. He was cute. I thought he was being irresponsible with that wad of cash, holding it in the open in a store in NYC and wanting to toss it in the air. When Gary and Brenda were talking in Rhoda's kitchen, Rhoda was irritating when she kept bugging Brenda about cooking some food. Rhoda keeps harshly judging other people's relationships as if she is this all-knowing person who knows what's best for everyone. She needs to examine her own that she had with Joe. It sure bombed quick. Brenda acts like she is scared of Gary, as if she were 15. He is no stranger to her.
I was thinking the same thing about all that money in his hand like sir put that away ...
Ive kicked my brother on the head but never kissed my brother in the mouth😕😫!
I think it was more personable and touching to kiss hello and goodbye. If it happened to be family that didn't mean there was any romantic-type feelings going on whatsoever.
i like carltons voice . whose voice was it? (the real person''s name)
It's Lorenzo Music. He was also the voice of Garfield.
oh thank you...I remember now...I was researching him on some website and it said he used to regularly volunteerred on a suicide hotline. Not surprising with that soothing voice. ! Never occured to me that Garfield was hisvoice too. Didnt sound the same
Yep. He was the cutest thing.
So they both have fun together, are attracted to each other, it's easy and not forced and they don't have to put on or try to impress each other ..... And that's a problem? It's almost like the show didn't want their characters to be happy
They should've had Joe and Rhoda hook back up and Gary and Brenda could've dated.
I wish Gary and branda ended up together instead of Benny
Brenda was right! Friends used to always help each other. But they nrver charged. It was done in love. In this situation though i csn see hom being able to give them some money.
In this episode somehow Julie reminds me of Alexis Bledel.
Maybe this is a dumb question, I noticed Rhoda told Gary and Brenda to use the oven to heat up the Chinese food...but did people not really have microwaves in their homes at this point in time? I thought they were invented in the 50s so I would think in the 70s people had them.
Microwaves were a high dollar value item in the 70s. Not everyone had them.
Microwaves in everyone's kitchens were a bit later than this.
@@michaelmitchell5098 Thanks for explaining. I think that's what I enjoy about watching these older shows, it's fun way to learn history. I'm a 90s kid btw.
I remember we got our first microwave in 1977 I was in fourth grade I remember my parents bought it at Bambergers which was NJ s version of Macys
They were not mass produced until the beginning of the 80's. They were rather expensive. Very industrial and lasted a long time!
Good thing Gary didnt see Brenda in that black nightgown she wore in one episode..
Anybody else see and hear someone walk by the set an15:06?
RadRN Yes, it was the invisible man. I saw him pass buy with my x-ray vision.
RadRN no
RadRN, yes! That was creepy and there was a shadow, too.
The only thing I saw was the shadows from the two actors in the scene. There was no other people there. Don't you realized that they clear the set when they are doing a show?
No. It's Gary shifting his feet as he leans against the counter. Listen and watch his legs move. It's obvious.
I liked the show a lot better when Joe and Rhoda were married.
Me too
So steer clear of seasons 3 to 5. Easy fix.
It became a different shows. Like there were 2 separate shows
Is Rhoda wearing a Burberry shirt?
Pork fried rice? I thought they're supposed to be Jewish
Reform, obv.
Dennis Nayland Smith Jewish people can eat pork u are so stupid
Not all Jewish people are ultra orthodox
MsSunshine610 First off, MsSunshine610, don't call me stupid. Can you not make a civilized comment without all the vitriol? Second of all, no, Jewish people cannot eat pork, even the reformed Jews. The dietary laws apply to all Jews, reformed or not. So who's the stupid one here? It's not me.
MsSunshine610 One does not have to be ultra orthodox to follow dietary laws. Even many non religious Jews follow the dietary laws simply because the custom had been passed down as family tradition. BTW...Ms Sunshine you are not.
That doesn't mean all Jews follow them, not at all.Talk about method acting, notice Ron Silver's woodie after kissing Julie Kavner?
Studs came back.
Yeah. In the 1980s as i recall
Everything was jeans, jeans, and more jeans, when I was growing up in the 1970's. So why was Gary Levy unable to make a success of his jeans store? What was he doing wrong?
Why do they eat pork?
This is true!
Think how hot this would be if Rhoda had, not a sister, but a brother!
Gary paid the 3 girls $285 each and in today's money that would equal $1,265.93
So Gary's cut of 17000+ would be a pretty good days pay as well!
And now it's $1446 ... Inflation is crazy
Whatttt? He kissed Brenda?!
What's with the star Rhoda wears? She a sheriff? lol
What's wrong with a star? I wear one permanently---tattooed nautical star on my wrist.
I was wondering the same thing too. I noticed it on this episode and on the previous one too.
Funny.....I thought the same thing--at first----but sheriff's' badges have 6 stars.
Metal.star pins were "in". I think I had one.
These men and their clothes. Why do I feel like a crotch watcher during this time period?
Yeah that seemed to be the style in those days! lol. Men didn’t do much to try to hide anything! lol. But then, some fashions these days are just about as bad. For men AND women.
ROTL @ 23:31
Brenda was stupid. All she had to say was propose to me Gary.
Propose .... after not even dating regularly yet. That's nuts.
Gary with Brenda or Rhoda would have made a great couple.
Did Gary just put that rib he was chewing on back in the box? That's gross .
It was the seventies
Just look at those 1970s style and fashion. Gary had kissed his sister. Yak! This must be a typical American thing with siblings. I have never kissed my sister.
+Warp Prime 42 I have kissed my Sister but not on the lips, I always kissed my Father also, but not on the lips either. I guess it's a French extraction thing.
He was looking at and talking about Brenda when he made the comment about sisters...He didn't kiss his sister. You have misunderstood that situation.
Gary kissed Brenda - who is not his sister. I don't understand your comment. Also, my dad (God rest his soul) would kiss me on the lips when I was a child going to bed to show me that he loves me and I don't think that is weird. It is not like he made out with me or stuck his tongue down my throat. Just a loving thing my dad did.
He kissed his sister on the lips when she entered the store. That's what commentor is referring to.
I don't know why I'm typing this, the comment was left years ago. Duh me!
It's not typical for a guy to kiss his sister hello on the lips in America, but I'm sure it happens. My family wasn't like that; as a grownup I'd hug my sister or just say "Hello" when we'd get together.
It depends on the family ... on how demonstrative the parents are. Some siblings hug hello and goodbye, some just say "Hi", and then some avoid each other like slow death-- because of past grudges. :)