In a word.....insecurity. Why do so many famous people have plastic surgery. Same reason. They never look better. They end up ruining their perfectly lovely looks.
that is the problem though with people that get plastic surgery. They have low self esteem for one reason or another and because of that, aren't satisfied with their looks even though their looks generally are just fine. Actually in many cases, plastic surgery makes people look even WORSE and fake.
@@Shamonwhitehurst252 her legs sure looked heavy in first episodes. she looked like 10 lbs loss and some sit ups needed. her clothes were made to make her look more frumpy. beautiful girl
Actuslly in all seriousness.....it's quite an acting feat of Julie Kavner to even suggest she's not attractive!! (on that note, if she got her hair short or put her hair up.....oh babyyyyyy!!)
Cookie-cutter nose jobs were big in the '70's. All the girls wanted to look like Cheryl Tiegs. So the doctors in those days gave everyone the same nose, no matter what the face looked like: a turned-up ski--slope nose.
There is a great memorial tribute to Valerie Harper on TH-cam. Sad, but moving. I recommend watching it for those watching Rhoda for nostalgia and remembering her comedic talent and life.
These women were so beautiful and non kardashianish. The light makeup, the clothes, the plain hair. Beautiful. Now we live in a world of plastic and ugliness.
Julie Kavner was so cute at this point. She was much less polished looking when the show began, but she was quite attractive by this time. I lol’ed at Barbra Streisand! 🤣🤣🤣
I am nodding my head here....exactly...every episode is detached from the initial Rhoda and Joe separation...thank you sanfrancisco for expressing it better than I can...I adore this show and am watching it for the first time
Oh right, go to the plastic surgeon and ask if he thinks you need a nose job. What do you think he'll say? "Oh your nose is fine!" that gets him no money in his hand. Of course he's going to say you need a nose job! Oh excuse me, rhinoplasty!
Alondra Labute When I went to a plastic surgeon in 1968 to ask about a nose job, the first thing he did was try to talk me out of it - he said I was fine the way I was. I was impressed by that. (By the way, I got the new nose and it was one of the best decisions I ever made- he did a great job.)
I always wanted a different nose,but, now, I Love my nose, because I've came to realize, its a nose like my Dads...the nose that I was Born with...God given~
After reading so many comments about Brenda not being fat, it's no wonder I was always self-conscious. My mother used to rant about them being fat. I, like most of you, thought they looked fine. My mother used to say "You'd be so beautiful......if only....you lost weight.". Why bother trying when even the ones who are supposed to love you criticize.
Awwww. Im so sorry. I bet you were not fat. Probably beautiful and not a string bean or bean pole. I had some baby fat as a teen but nobody ever said I was fat except my so called best friend in the ugliest way she could. Now she's heavier than I was then. Later I got thin. Like Rhoda. Being that thin is painful. It hurt to lay on my tummy on the floor or bed. And anyone could have thrown me in back of a van. Its safer to have some meat on your bones . Many guys told me they didn't like boney girls. Muscular thighs were a plus too. Made you bell bottoms look better flairing from your knees. You were probably gorgeous. Im plump now. But at my age and being married, im not out to impress anyone. Would like to lose about 30 pounds for health. Ditched the best frenemy too .
@@susanspalluto4359the norm was not twiggy. Most girls were not bones but not really fat either. We were active and burned off the calories we took in.
When the surgeons DO do your ears, they don't "pin them back." What is done is the excess cartilage behind the ears is removed enough for the desired effect.This episode reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld when he asked the audience, "Have you ever wondered why the plastic surgeons refer to nose jobs as rhinoplasty?" It's bad enough that you are self-conscious about your nose and then to be compared to a rhino!!"
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda agree with sanfran and gary. The show utterly lost direction after the brilliant wedding episode. It was still funny, and I could never criticize the acting (always first rate) but the focus was lost, it all went in too many directions, and it just wasn't ... as good. That being so, I loved the show anyway. It was (and is) an utter reflection of the NY I knew and loved so much in the 70s.
I think that the focus was exactly where it should have been for 5 full seasons: the sisters and sometimes the mother. I mean the two of them were in every episodes (the only actors that were) and they had, combined, about 50 percent of the dialogue. Even when Joe was in a scene we, as viewers, were okay because we knew that soon enough, Brenda would pop in.
That nose job would be alot more expensive today. Brenda does not, at any level, have a big nose. Jimmy Durante had a BIG nose. People on this show often think Benny says his name is Goodman, instead of Goodwin. Benny was hilarious when he spoke of their future kids, big noses and ears and other kids not knowing which to laugh at first. Isn't that nose doc Charles Winchester from MASH? If so, he has hair, on this. Sure looks like him.
Benny is funny, and Brenda is hilarious.I wish more episodes focused on those two...I don't know why she was so down on herself, she was pretty and never was fat.She looked like a real person and not Hollywood inspired.Rhoda was funny but tended to be b itchy and whiney alot...she was funnier and more pleasant on the Mary Tyler Moore show.
It was getting downright stupid. I still like to watch reruns, because I used to love this show, but all that hysterical behavior about not being thin enough, not being perfect, having low self esteem etc. is grating on your nerves. What a palaver. It is really embarrassing. Brenda is a super actress but, after her screaming fit about her nose in this episode, I had had enough and had to turn it off. The writers of this show got less and less imaginative. It was always the same. They turned Brenda and Rhoda into two self absorbed, self pitying, hysterical and always complaining shrews. Enough is enough. It was going the same way as the MTM show where the supporting cast turned out to be better than the star(s) of the show.
J Douglas She couldn’t have, Valerie had no biological children. She adopted her only daughter Christina Harper. I guess it was just the wardrobe for the show.
Valerie was going through a divorce from her first husband. She was an emotional eater. Season 4 starts with her very thin, Julie had lost weight as well on hiatus.
The problems were in the last TWO years, not the first two seasons. It was a mistake to break up Joe and Rhoda. They were initially smart in making him a supporting character and making Brenda the co-star. But getting rid of Joe and bringing in those three IDIOTS (Benny, Gary and the stewardess - Anne Meara, a stewardess???) simply killed the series. But Kavner is adorable (and, yes, her nose is fine).
I think that those new characters, and JOhnny Venture, were fine, as was Earl and Jack. Shows need change and new characters to keep it new and exciting.
I agree with Garyb3397 - series-wise, it had been a mistake to have Rhoda get married -- especially so quickly in the first season. That being said, it was an even BIGGER mistake to have them divorce. The writers, who thought they had painted themselves into a corner with a happily married Rhoda, should have committed to making both the marriage AND the show work. A cloud of sadness hung over the rest of the series after the break-up.
This episode exemplifies what was wrong with this series, and it has nothing to do with the talented actors. The show had no direction. Brenda does not require a nose job by any stretch of the imagination. Like many episodes the plot’s forced, the continuity’s choppy and many of the talented supporting characters and/or guest stars are written as annoying. I still like watching Rhoda for sentimental & nostalgic reasons as I grew up in NY watching it. Thanks for uploading.
Brenda is insecure so she sees a big nose where nobody else sees it. Similarly, Rhoda thought she was fat especially on Mary's show (because she used to weigh 160 pounds and she was never quite Maryesque, and she had to see her every day.) Both reactions come from real feelings and feelings are not usually about reason.
Dude, you obviously do not have any insecurities. Sure, Brenda does not need a nose job. But, she can't see that because she is insecure. Rhoda and Brenda have insecurities like most people do and they are irrational but real.
I grew up with many Jewish girlfriends. A nose job was almost like a rite of passage, usually done at 16 or 18. Of course, it was always for a “deviated septum.” But I did feel for them as it’s a very painful and unpleasant procedure. But they’re all gorgeous now.
This is a wildly racist comment. You are ignorant, and it is amazing that you have any friends at all. You sound like you popped out of the theatre scene in "Cabaret" Look it up. It will be a revelation.
Sometimes it gets frustrating listening to Brenda. They need to make her character a little stronger. God they make her so weak. Like she can't make any decisions smh.
MrSurfingdreamer yeah I know it's her character and it's the 70's. It's Not that I did not like the show overall but Brenda I could only take in doses lol.
Growing up I hated my nose too. I still do. This is the thing with Brenda's character she thinks she's unattractive. They started her out as frumpy, but she lost weight and dressed differently. I like the improvements. She's also cleverly funny with her lines.
I look good in hats with long hair. But it has started falling out quickly. I wish there was a place to learn to tie head scarfs the exact ways Rhoda did. Its so emarbarrassing
Stiers looks so young in the face, and his hairpiece makes him look even younger. I'd rather look like Brenda than Rhoda, if I had a choice. I like this show but I get so sick of Brenda and Rhoda both insulting their own selves, having such bad self-esteem, and Rhoda practically starves herself to be skinny. A few jokes about it is funny, but good grief, enough! Rhoda is bossy, and Brenda can't make a decision for herself. The late 1970s was popular for plastic surgery. It is so funny when people think Benny Goodwin is Goodman, and that he is a son of the bandleader.
I love Carlton, even though we never see Lorenzo Music in character other than perhaps an arm and a doormans hat he is just as much a character and part of the show as any of the other actresses or actors. RIP Lorenzo Music🌹
Great performance from Julie Kavner here. 15:00 - 16:45 might be her best work in the series; such vulnerability and humanity finally falling from a built up wise-cracking life. Valerie Harper, however, looks like an old maid in a lot of these episodes. Horrible hair, over the top thich New Yawk accent, and frumpy clothes. That divorce from Joe truly shows where her character went.
Loved this show for years but looking at it now Rhonda and Brenda were insecure, neurotic women who worried about everything, watching this show irritated me.
There is an audience member that has the dumbest laugh I've ever heard. He's either a Rhoda groupie or a recorded laugh to "incite" more laughter, but it's awful!
Gwen. The man who has the distinctive laugh is part of the Lorenzo music ( they are in the credits) And is “ Carlton: their doorman. He is in the audience ( which is live) and part of the cast…
@@pinkysimmsBMMM I thought he was taken off the list of candidates for that because he spent too long doing meatball surgery in Korea. It was a subplot in one of the episodes around season 8.
So we are supposed to believe that Brenda was overweight with a big nose. Meanwhile, she was actually on the fairly thin side (especially compared to how much people weigh nowadays), and there was nothing wrong with her nose.
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If only Brenda remembered that Rhoda never thought she was beautiful either. But both Brenda and Rhoda are beautiful and have always been so.
What in the world could possibly be wrong with Brenda’s nose? She’s adorable ❤️
@The mysterious Miss X they don’t go around calling themselves the mysterious whomever either, but here we are 🙄😂
I see her & I hear Marge Simpson - what a lucky gal !
Brenda looks just fine as she is.
In a word.....insecurity. Why do so many famous people have plastic surgery. Same reason. They never look better. They end up ruining their perfectly lovely looks.
Not a fan of the Benny character. I wish they would have kept Brenda with the McDonald’s guy.
Brenda and Rhoda were both beautiful. Their acting is amazing.
I love Rhoda's ethic wardrobe. Mexican,then Middle Eastern,then Boho. Thanks for the laughs.
This show is so underrated.
I feel that Rhoda is the best sitcom ever on TV. And, it influenced so many shows to come (Frasier, Seinfeld, Friends, Alice.)
David Ogden Steirs, alias Charles Emerson Winchester 3rd from MASH
How old are you?? This is a great show that aged well but in the seventies it was quite popular though ratings dwindled
Too bad that the vast majority of the male characters were unbearable.Their insecurities most likely came from the over importance of the male gaze.
I've always thought Brenda was beautiful exactly as she was. Sweet and funny..she wasn't fat and nose was perfect
Thank you. Beautiful woman with a nice body!
now days guys want the frumpy plain jane instead of good-looking girls.
that is the problem though with people that get plastic surgery. They have low self esteem for one reason or another and because of that, aren't satisfied with their looks even though their looks generally are just fine. Actually in many cases, plastic surgery makes people look even WORSE and fake.
She WAS fat in the first season but she lost weight
@@Shamonwhitehurst252 her legs sure looked heavy in first episodes. she looked like 10 lbs loss and some sit ups needed. her clothes were made to make her look more frumpy. beautiful girl
Brenda was so cute in this episode. The most lovable little sister ever
She is- I love her. She is hilarious.
What a great episode that focused on Rhoda and Brenda's relationship. They are great sisters.
I think Brenda is really pretty. Her nose is fine.
I agree!
Me too. I'd ask her out like a shot. Rhoda I don't fancy at all.
Actuslly in all seriousness.....it's quite an acting feat of Julie Kavner to even suggest she's not attractive!! (on that note, if she got her hair short or put her hair up.....oh babyyyyyy!!)
Cookie-cutter nose jobs were big in the '70's. All the girls wanted to look like Cheryl Tiegs. So the doctors in those days gave everyone the same nose, no matter what the face looked like: a turned-up ski--slope nose.
@@davidsanderson5918 you really to see her in short hair!
There is a great memorial tribute to Valerie Harper on TH-cam. Sad, but moving. I recommend watching it for those watching Rhoda for nostalgia and remembering her comedic talent and life.
These women were so beautiful and non kardashianish. The light makeup, the clothes, the plain hair. Beautiful.
Now we live in a world of plastic and ugliness.
Young women today do not make choices that enhance their beauty. And the results prove it.
Valerie Harper was gorgeous
I love Brenda's nose.. it's so cute!
Any episode of this show was worth watching. But none more so than when the brilliant Nancy Walker was in it. Oh my God, did she make me laugh!!
I liked it better without her. Just Rhoda, Brenda and their menfriends.
GodBless her. Rest in peace Nancy. Her character reminds me of my mother. 🤣😂 And late grandmother. 😁
Her timing was immaculate.
Ida was my least favorite character
@@LadyRockville Me too! pushy!
There should have been a Brenda spin-off after Rhoda. Julie Kavner is terrific! And very pretty!
Julie Kavner was so cute at this point. She was much less polished looking when the show began, but she was quite attractive by this time. I lol’ed at Barbra Streisand! 🤣🤣🤣
haha "Barbra Streisand" 😂😂😂😂
I always thought Brenda was beautiful. I have a small nose, but it is only a nose!! Love yourself.
Small noses are not all that and Do not always mean you are beautiful. I have seen many ugly women with small pug/pig noses.
*crosses eyes* "Come on, Nose. We're gonna go home.'' hahaha
That was so cute!
I watch news, then I watch an episode of Rhoda, repeat. I stay calm.
Watching Rhoda does that for me too
Julie Kavner is sensational in this episode. Wow! what an actress!
I am nodding my head here....exactly...every episode is detached from the initial Rhoda and Joe separation...thank you sanfrancisco for expressing it better than I can...I adore this show and am watching it for the first time
"Why not make it a hide-a-nose in case you have company?" LOLOLOL!
Brenda's pretty as she is doesn't need any nose job......
Oh right, go to the plastic surgeon and ask if he thinks you need a nose job. What do you think he'll say? "Oh your nose is fine!" that gets him no money in his hand. Of course he's going to say you need a nose job! Oh excuse me, rhinoplasty!
Alondra Labute When I went to a plastic surgeon in 1968 to ask about a nose job, the first thing he did was try to talk me out of it - he said I was fine the way I was. I was impressed by that. (By the way, I got the new nose and it was one of the best decisions I ever made- he did a great job.)
I think Brenda's nose is beautiful
David Ogden Stiers is back playing a cosmetic doctor with hair piece instead of a bald neurotic patient from a previous episode.
CaptainGrimsdale ...And don't forget his character on MASH !.. ( Charles Winchester the 3rd ) !!!
@@kathywollam32 and MTM as the station manager in the end.
I always wanted a different nose,but, now, I Love my nose, because I've came to realize, its a nose like my Dads...the nose that I was Born with...God given~
Winchester from mash and louann pouvee from gomer Pyle. So great.
I thought that Brenda was cute as She was.
It's hard to believe she wanted a reconstructed nose. Her nose was perfect. cute.
This was just a storyline but not realistic. She did not have a huge nose
I always thought Brenda was adorable as is
After reading so many comments about Brenda not being fat, it's no wonder I was always self-conscious. My mother used to rant about them being fat. I, like most of you, thought they looked fine. My mother used to say "You'd be so beautiful......if only....you lost weight.". Why bother trying when even the ones who are supposed to love you criticize.
Awwww. Im so sorry. I bet you were not fat. Probably beautiful and not a string bean or bean pole. I had some baby fat as a teen but nobody ever said I was fat except my so called best friend in the ugliest way she could. Now she's heavier than I was then. Later I got thin. Like Rhoda. Being that thin is painful. It hurt to lay on my tummy on the floor or bed. And anyone could have thrown me in back of a van. Its safer to have some meat on your bones . Many guys told me they didn't like boney girls. Muscular thighs were a plus too. Made you bell bottoms look better flairing from your knees. You were probably gorgeous. Im plump now. But at my age and being married, im not out to impress anyone. Would like to lose about 30 pounds for health. Ditched the best frenemy too .
It was the 70s!! Ideal female body was Twiggy! “You can never be too rich or too thin”
mindset! Don’t blame your mother!
@@susanspalluto4359the norm was not twiggy. Most girls were not bones but not really fat either. We were active and burned off the calories we took in.
Brenda has a very pretty nose. It's odd to see David Ogden Stiers with hair.
When the surgeons DO do your ears, they don't "pin them back." What is done is the excess cartilage behind the ears is removed enough for the desired effect.This episode reminds me of Jerry Seinfeld when he asked the audience, "Have you ever wondered why the plastic surgeons refer to nose jobs as rhinoplasty?" It's bad enough that you are self-conscious about your nose and then to be compared to a rhino!!"
lol
Julie Kavener's nose is perfect.
As much as I hate to admit it, I kinda agree with sanfran and gary. The show utterly lost direction after the brilliant wedding episode. It was still funny, and I could never criticize the acting (always first rate) but the focus was lost, it all went in too many directions, and it just wasn't ... as good. That being so, I loved the show anyway. It was (and is) an utter reflection of the NY I knew and loved so much in the 70s.
njplr but don't you think it has something to do with the writers
I think that the focus was exactly where it should have been for 5 full seasons: the sisters and sometimes the mother. I mean the two of them were in every episodes (the only actors that were) and they had, combined, about 50 percent of the dialogue. Even when Joe was in a scene we, as viewers, were okay because we knew that soon enough, Brenda would pop in.
Wow, it's Lue Ann Poovie(Elisabeth MacRae)from Gomer Pylein the hospital scene, getting a facelift! That look and voice....... no mistaken
Major Winchester... RIP
Gomer Pyle's girlfriend, the blonde that can't stop smiling!
That nose job would be alot more expensive today. Brenda does not, at any level, have a big nose. Jimmy Durante had a BIG nose. People on this show often think Benny says his name is Goodman, instead of Goodwin. Benny was hilarious when he spoke of their future kids, big noses and ears and other kids not knowing which to laugh at first. Isn't that nose doc Charles Winchester from MASH? If so, he has hair, on this. Sure looks like him.
Brebdas nose is fine. She does not need a smaller nose
Rhoda in housecoats??? Ugh! I bet Valerie hated those everytime they made her wear them.
This show tells the truth.
Benny is funny, and Brenda is hilarious.I wish more episodes focused on those two...I don't know why she was so down on herself, she was pretty and never was fat.She looked like a real person and not Hollywood inspired.Rhoda was funny but tended to be b itchy and whiney alot...she was funnier and more pleasant on the Mary Tyler Moore show.
If you can recall Rhoda acted just like Brenda when she was on The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Self mocking and low opinion of herself
This is tv show, not real
It was getting downright stupid. I still like to watch reruns, because I used to love this show, but all that hysterical behavior about not being thin enough, not being perfect, having low self esteem etc. is grating on your nerves. What a palaver. It is really embarrassing. Brenda is a super actress but, after her screaming fit about her nose in this episode, I had had enough and had to turn it off. The writers of this show got less and less imaginative. It was always the same. They turned Brenda and Rhoda into two self absorbed, self pitying, hysterical and always complaining shrews. Enough is enough. It was going the same way as the MTM show where the supporting cast turned out to be better than the star(s) of the show.
Truth !!! at last!!!!!
Julie lavenders nose was perfect. Lol.
That house dress Rhoda wore was horrendous, made her look HUGE!
I wonder if Rhoda is pregnant or something bc she's been wearing baggy clothes alot in this show
I agree, that moo moo made her look pregnant.
M1k3y Westley I know...! I wondered at first if Valerie Harper was pregnant and they were trying to hide it. She looked HUGE! Lol!
J Douglas She couldn’t have, Valerie had no biological children. She adopted her only daughter Christina Harper. I guess it was just the wardrobe for the show.
Valerie was going through a divorce from her first husband. She was an emotional eater. Season 4 starts with her very thin, Julie had lost weight as well on hiatus.
We all thought that Rhoda accidentally called Brenda Mayer. I believe what she said was nosemare opposed to nightmare
She is so pretty
The problems were in the last TWO years, not the first two seasons. It was a mistake to break up Joe and Rhoda. They were initially smart in making him a supporting character and making Brenda the co-star. But getting rid of Joe and bringing in those three IDIOTS (Benny, Gary and the stewardess - Anne Meara, a stewardess???) simply killed the series. But Kavner is adorable (and, yes, her nose is fine).
I think that those new characters, and JOhnny Venture, were fine, as was Earl and Jack. Shows need change and new characters to keep it new and exciting.
I didn't like it with Joe at all, and much prefer the later Series with Gary, Benny and Rhoda with various menfriends.
Garyb3397 Agree, except I think Gary is likable.
I agree with Garyb3397 - series-wise, it had been a mistake to have Rhoda get married -- especially so quickly in the first season. That being said, it was an even BIGGER mistake to have them divorce. The writers, who thought they had painted themselves into a corner with a happily married Rhoda, should have committed to making both the marriage AND the show work. A cloud of sadness hung over the rest of the series after the break-up.
Garyb3397 I thought the same thing- lol. I’d never peg Anne Meara as ‘the stewardess’.
I had a huge crush on Julie Kavner growing up. She made of awesome.
This episode exemplifies what was wrong with this series, and it has nothing to do with the talented actors. The show had no direction. Brenda does not require a nose job by any stretch of the imagination. Like many episodes the plot’s forced, the continuity’s choppy and many of the talented supporting characters and/or guest stars are written as annoying. I still like watching Rhoda for sentimental & nostalgic reasons as I grew up in NY watching it. Thanks for uploading.
Brenda is insecure so she sees a big nose where nobody else sees it. Similarly, Rhoda thought she was fat especially on Mary's show (because she used to weigh 160 pounds and she was never quite Maryesque, and she had to see her every day.) Both reactions come from real feelings and feelings are not usually about reason.
Dude, you obviously do not have any insecurities. Sure, Brenda does not need a nose job. But, she can't see that because she is insecure. Rhoda and Brenda have insecurities like most people do and they are irrational but real.
They should have made her talk about something else, like her breasts or thighs.
Funny but imo this show aged well. 50 years later I still enjoy the show!! That says something 😊
$1,500 in 1976 is worth $6,662.81 today. Wow!
M1k3y Westley I know, I was just trying to remember...what did she do for work...? Lol. 🤔
@@mk202 she was a bank teller
And as a teller Brenda was making about $52/week ... It would take years to pay back the loan.
Carlton the doorman played by Lorenzo Music. They can hear him but you can't see him. It's only a secret that he created himself!
You see him in his uniform in a few episodes, but never his face.
Everytime Brenda talks all I hear and imagine is Marge Simpson.. I know she does the voice it's just funny as I watched the Simpsons before this show.
Love Brenda and Rhoda they were wonderful and so caring. this show was great.
i just realized that Valerie Harper looks like Barbara Mandrell !
I don't see it
I grew up with many Jewish girlfriends. A nose job was almost like a rite of passage, usually done at 16 or 18. Of course, it was always for a “deviated septum.” But I did feel for them as it’s a very painful and unpleasant procedure. But they’re all gorgeous now.
This is a wildly racist comment. You are ignorant, and it is amazing that you have any friends at all. You sound like you popped out of the theatre scene in "Cabaret" Look it up. It will be a revelation.
the plastic surgeon is Charles from Mash 4077
I was so happy when she found joe. So sad they made them divorce.
Where is a Ida "Ma" Morgenstern when you need her. I knew that was David Stiers (Winchester from M*A*S*H)
Looks better with hair
At 6:11 Rhoda accidentally refers to Brenda as Mary. "So what's that gotto do with your nose, Mar?"
Good catch.
Isn't she saying "nose-mare" in reference to Brenda's comment about having a nightmare in which her nose is chasing her?
Funny she'd confuse Brenda with Mary when according to Rhoda Mary was perfect, she'd hardly need a nose job.
No, she says “nose-mare” as in “nightmare” - a play on words.
@@dav1237exactly. Instead of nightmare she meant nosemare. If it had been her chin she woukd have said chinmare.
Sometimes it gets frustrating listening to Brenda. They need to make her character a little stronger. God they make her so weak. Like she can't make any decisions smh.
That is her character and you do realize that this show is from the 1970s, right?
MrSurfingdreamer yeah I know it's her character and it's the 70's. It's Not that I did not like the show overall but Brenda I could only take in doses lol.
I guess her character was one that many of us related to.
Absolutely agree. Both of them. Aggravating.
Growing up I hated my nose too. I still do. This is the thing with Brenda's character she thinks she's unattractive. They started her out as frumpy, but she lost weight and dressed differently. I like the improvements. She's also cleverly funny with her lines.
Hard to believe Rhoda is dead🥺
Julie was Marge Simpson waaay before she was Marge simpson... she IS Marge Simpson!!!!
I look good in hats with long hair. But it has started falling out quickly. I wish there was a place to learn to tie head scarfs the exact ways Rhoda did. Its so emarbarrassing
I agree Brenda is pretty
18:00 "Hey! Brenda, is that YOU?" They did a great job!" ( yeah, hair and all ) silly hahaha
They're both pretty...but Rhoda's outfit in the first scene...
Dispanted when Joe and Rhoda broke up
David Odgen Stiers again. He was a pysch patient in one other episode of Rhoda.
Brenda is really funny
Who’s your favorite actress? Barbra Streisand! I spat my coffee across the room!
The scene where Brenda breaks down with Rhoda is a tour de force of acting. Oscar worthy
@The mysterious Miss X you sound amazing do you have an imdb page?
This is the second episode in a row that I wasn't particularly entertained.
A new hairdo and Brenda would be perfectly beautiful.
I like her hair the way she wears it. The only thing I'd do is add some curl.
@@alondralabute2310straight hair was in back then. I like her hair. And when she winds up with long hair its gorgeous.
Stiers looks so young in the face, and his hairpiece makes him look even younger. I'd rather look like Brenda than Rhoda, if I had a choice. I like this show but I get so sick of Brenda and Rhoda both insulting their own selves, having such bad self-esteem, and Rhoda practically starves herself to be skinny. A few jokes about it is funny, but good grief, enough! Rhoda is bossy, and Brenda can't make a decision for herself. The late 1970s was popular for plastic surgery. It is so funny when people think Benny Goodwin is Goodman, and that he is a son of the bandleader.
Bravo!!!!
I have seen Valerie Harper in person. She was really beautiful
THIS. DOCTOR. IS. LYING. TO. BREMDA, I. BET..
I liked brenda and rhoda. Would have liked them as neighbors.
Brenda's nose is adorable but I knew someone who had a similar argument with their sibling over money regarding something of the same nature.
Gomer Pyle's girlfriend Lu Ann @ 17:08
Brenda is pretty no need for nose job
Who else hears Carlton laughing in the back ground along with the audience? I’ve heard him previously in other episodes.
Yep, it's him. He went from being Carlton to Garfield...Not bad!
I love Carlton, even though we never see Lorenzo Music in character other than perhaps an arm and a doormans hat he is just as much a character and part of the show as any of the other actresses or actors. RIP Lorenzo Music🌹
NO, IT'S NOT LORENZO MUSIC. IT'S JAMES L. BROOKS.
That is the unmistakeable guffaw of Carlton the doorman, aka Lorenzo Music
Who couldn't love Brenda?
6:11... does Rhoda call Brenda "Mar", like short for Mary?
The actor who plays the doctor sounds as arrogant as he does in MASH.
Great performance from Julie Kavner here. 15:00 - 16:45 might be her best work in the series; such vulnerability and humanity finally falling from a built up wise-cracking life. Valerie Harper, however, looks like an old maid in a lot of these episodes. Horrible hair, over the top thich New Yawk accent, and frumpy clothes. That divorce from Joe truly shows where her character went.
David Ogden Steirs with hair. Lol.
She has a nice nose. She's pretty.
David Ogden Stiers got promoted from a psychiatric patient of Dr. Arthur Alborn's
Loved this show for years but looking at it now Rhonda and Brenda were insecure, neurotic women who worried about everything, watching this show irritated me.
The stuttering station manager from mtm.
There is an audience member that has the dumbest laugh I've ever heard. He's either a Rhoda groupie or a recorded laugh to "incite" more laughter, but it's awful!
Gwen. The man who has the distinctive laugh is part of the Lorenzo music ( they are in the credits) And is “ Carlton: their doorman. He is in the audience ( which is live) and part of the cast…
if you mean the one that sounds almost like a seal, it is James L Brooks, writer/creator of the show and creator of the Simpsons. :-D
Brenda was beautiful as she was.
Just like a plastic surgeon making someone feel bad about something for money. Not saying all do that but I'm sure alot of them are guilty of this.
Charles Emerson Winchester became a plastic surgeon in NYC after leaving Korea
kloop1948 nope. He was the head of Thoracic Surgery in Boston after Korea.
@@pinkysimmsBMMM I thought he was taken off the list of candidates for that because he spent too long doing meatball surgery in Korea. It was a subplot in one of the episodes around season 8.
@@dionlindsay2 Margaret helped him in the finale, so he got the job he was hoping for in Boston
@@glen7318 Cheers for that!
Frasier did a variation of this plot with Roz
So we are supposed to believe that Brenda was overweight with a big nose. Meanwhile, she was actually on the fairly thin side (especially compared to how much people weigh nowadays), and there was nothing wrong with her nose.
Love these actors and actresses! They don't maje good comedy like this anymore! They just don't 😮
From Nick in Ep 20 to Benny in Ep 21.