I love the way you talked about athletes with out most respect . You are very knowledgeable . Thanks for not being catty like some TH-camrs. Thanks again . I am a fan of your channel .
I believe the Japanese federation should totally separate competitions for Juniors and Seniors at Nationals since I think they discriminate in both tech and PCS against their very best Junior's skater and one of the best Junior skaters ever, Mao Shimada who I believe deserved to win Nationals this year. I think the JSF makes it impossible for any Junior to win since in the LP for example Mao Shimada had almost 13 points lower PCS but over 7 points more than Kaori in tech score and still "lost" the freeksate by like 6 points. Mao was also scored more harshly in tech overall as well. This is part of what I believe is an accelerating trend in the ISU of scoring Juniors harsher even as so called Junior skaters like Mao are now 16 years old which used to be Senior's age. The best way to alleviate this problem is to not include Junior's and Senior's in any competitions due to relative discrimination against Juniors currently in scoring. Consider the stark contrast that Alina Zagitova for example earned 75 PCS in the 2018 Olympics when she was just 15 years old even younger than Mao Shimada receiving 63 PCS with a higher tech score of 81. In addition to Mao's exceptional skating skills, refinement, expression and interpretation, her status as 2 time Junior Worlds and 3 times Junior Grand Prix champion in a row is totally irrelevant to the JSF. This discriminatory scoring against Juniors who are now really what used to be Senior's age creates potential psychological trauma and discourages the development of Juniors by making them feel like no matter how hard they try and land triple axels or quads or have far higher tech scores while also having great presentation skills, they will still lose and see headlines indicating this in the press. This falls particularly hard on Mao Shimada who just misses the upcoming Olympics because of the harsh age rule and won't even be skating as a Senior till around her 18th birthday. This is just another reason why Junior's competitions and non Olympic events have become more engaging for me to watch. In my opinion, something similar happened before at Japanese Nationals in 2018 when Rika Kihira was also 16 years old and relatively underscored after winning the Senior Grand Prix Final and deserved to win Japanese Nationals in my opinion.
Because of the discrimination I agree. Korea does not discriminate and still scored Jia high beating the seniors all the time since she was truly better. But JFED is extremely corrupt. I'm wondering if Kaori has blackmail material on a higher up because they have been backing her for years in ways that they have never supported other top Japanese skaters who had better tech/PCS.
The Russian championship was much stronger than the Japanese one. Even the Japanese men lost badly to the Russians, let alone other disciplines. Compare: 8 Russian men scored 260 or more points and only 3 Japanese, 6 Russian women scored 220 or more points and only 1 Japanese. The Japanese champion Sakamoto was 34 points behind the Russian champion Petrosian. In dances and pair skating, the difference in levels was even greater. For example, the Japanese ice dance champions would have taken the LAST 15th place in the Russian championship with their championship result.
Such great points all around! Personally I think that Japan scores their skaters a little more harshly so I think internationally Russia would still currently come out on top but the scores would be closer. I may be delusional but I think Kaori could beat Adeliia if her ultra c elements arent clean.
@@kellycommentates768 Petrosian is a real gem: grace, artistry, musicality, beauty of movements, plus content with a lot of ultra-c. Sakamoto clearly lacks all of this.
Japanese NEVER score Sakamoto harshly. 149 without a 3/3? Shimada should have won and Sakamoto was no better than Higuchi. Kaori PCS is a joke. 8 points higher than Wakaba? Lol
You can't compare scores from different competitions, especially from Russian Nationals. Of course the Russian judges are going to inflate their skaters' scores to ridiculous level to show off to the world how superior they think they are to the rest, but it often does not reflect the reality outside of Russia. I wouldn't trust anything coming out of Russia with a 10 foot pole.
Mao should have won and would have been scored more than 235 if she had been on the Russian team. Japan discriminates severely as does the ISU now overall against younger skaters but Mao is really senior's age at 16 anyway.
@@kellycommentates768 I don't know if the "2008 National Champion 37 years old father of three" Nobunari Oda has a lot of room to grow. He came back to skating as a post-pandemic fitness goal and only wanted to try getting into Nationals again.
All skaters in the world have room to grow no matter how old, but keep in mind Kelly is a nice viewer kindly reviewing the skaters not claiming to be expert in the sport. No need to attack him for his opinion on Oda.
Nobunari Oda at 37 yrs old still doing quads, I was awestruck by his overall performance!
I love the way you talked about athletes with out most respect . You are very knowledgeable . Thanks for not being catty like some TH-camrs. Thanks again . I am a fan of your channel .
Thank you so much!
I believe the Japanese federation should totally separate competitions for Juniors and Seniors at Nationals since I think they discriminate in both tech and PCS against their very best Junior's skater and one of the best Junior skaters ever, Mao Shimada who I believe deserved to win Nationals this year. I think the JSF makes it impossible for any Junior to win since in the LP for example Mao Shimada had almost 13 points lower PCS but over 7 points more than Kaori in tech score and still "lost" the freeksate by like 6 points. Mao was also scored more harshly in tech overall as well. This is part of what I believe is an accelerating trend in the ISU of scoring Juniors harsher even as so called Junior skaters like Mao are now 16 years old which used to be Senior's age. The best way to alleviate this problem is to not include Junior's and Senior's in any competitions due to relative discrimination against Juniors currently in scoring. Consider the stark contrast that Alina Zagitova for example earned 75 PCS in the 2018 Olympics when she was just 15 years old even younger than Mao Shimada receiving 63 PCS with a higher tech score of 81. In addition to Mao's exceptional skating skills, refinement, expression and interpretation, her status as 2 time Junior Worlds and 3 times Junior Grand Prix champion in a row is totally irrelevant to the JSF.
This discriminatory scoring against Juniors who are now really what used to be Senior's age creates potential psychological trauma and discourages the development of Juniors by making them feel like no matter how hard they try and land triple axels or quads or have far higher tech scores while also having great presentation skills, they will still lose and see headlines indicating this in the press. This falls particularly hard on Mao Shimada who just misses the upcoming Olympics because of the harsh age rule and won't even be skating as a Senior till around her 18th birthday. This is just another reason why Junior's competitions and non Olympic events have become more engaging for me to watch.
In my opinion, something similar happened before at Japanese Nationals in 2018 when Rika Kihira was also 16 years old and relatively underscored after winning the Senior Grand Prix Final and deserved to win Japanese Nationals in my opinion.
Because of the discrimination I agree. Korea does not discriminate and still scored Jia high beating the seniors all the time since she was truly better. But JFED is extremely corrupt. I'm wondering if Kaori has blackmail material on a higher up because they have been backing her for years in ways that they have never supported other top Japanese skaters who had better tech/PCS.
The Russian championship was much stronger than the Japanese one. Even the Japanese men lost badly to the Russians, let alone other disciplines. Compare: 8 Russian men scored 260 or more points and only 3 Japanese, 6 Russian women scored 220 or more points and only 1 Japanese. The Japanese champion Sakamoto was 34 points behind the Russian champion Petrosian. In dances and pair skating, the difference in levels was even greater. For example, the Japanese ice dance champions would have taken the LAST 15th place in the Russian championship with their championship result.
Such great points all around! Personally I think that Japan scores their skaters a little more harshly so I think internationally Russia would still currently come out on top but the scores would be closer. I may be delusional but I think Kaori could beat Adeliia if her ultra c elements arent clean.
@@kellycommentates768 Petrosian is a real gem: grace, artistry, musicality, beauty of movements, plus content with a lot of ultra-c. Sakamoto clearly lacks all of this.
Japanese NEVER score Sakamoto harshly. 149 without a 3/3? Shimada should have won and Sakamoto was no better than Higuchi. Kaori PCS is a joke. 8 points higher than Wakaba? Lol
You can't compare scores from different competitions, especially from Russian Nationals. Of course the Russian judges are going to inflate their skaters' scores to ridiculous level to show off to the world how superior they think they are to the rest, but it often does not reflect the reality outside of Russia. I wouldn't trust anything coming out of Russia with a 10 foot pole.
Mao should have won and would have been scored more than 235 if she had been on the Russian team. Japan discriminates severely as does the ISU now overall against younger skaters but Mao is really senior's age at 16 anyway.
suzuki tomono?
Oh goodness! My apologies! I wish I could go back and fix that. KAZUKI Tomono is what I meant. 🤦
room to grow for Nobunari Oda😂 You sounds like you don’t know anything about him😢
We can all strive to be better! I know this was a blowout for him though. Thanks for watching!
@@kellycommentates768 I don't know if the "2008 National Champion 37 years old father of three" Nobunari Oda has a lot of room to grow. He came back to skating as a post-pandemic fitness goal and only wanted to try getting into Nationals again.
All skaters in the world have room to grow no matter how old, but keep in mind Kelly is a nice viewer kindly reviewing the skaters not claiming to be expert in the sport. No need to attack him for his opinion on Oda.