Well ! " We're Going Too See This Upcoming Season " !! , Too See If K.D Remains With Nets !! , After Next Year Early Season !! , When Trades Can Come Truth Again ! Or , If K.D Stays !! , The One Year Fully Then , If He Wins It !! Without Uncle Drew Messing !!! , Then K.D Legacy Ment It All The Way !! , Not Parts Of If . Young Benny 602 .....................
I don’t think it should matter if they like you, if you’re objective you should defend them. I don’t like Chris Paul but I thought he should be in the MVP conversation a couple seasons ago. Now, the way Skip tries to change reality to defend KD knowing he hates him is crazy.
@@rickyrobby8133 Skip tends to lean to both sides, but I give him props for still defending someone who hates him, but he also picks on players sometimes for no reason. Shannon however, since KD and him beefed he’ll never actually be fair to KD even when he does well, he has to bring in LeBron to diminish KD. Even when the conversation has nothing to do with LeBron.
Skip closes his eyes when Shannon starts saying things Skip doesn’t like. Skip also says mmmmm or okkk or whatever when Shannon has his backed in a corner. If it wouldn’t break up the show, Shannon would keep pressing Skip to the point of no return
This is a good observation and I’d advise anyone to watch or rewatch the Terrell Suggs debate when him and skip go at it. Watch skips face when Suggs speaks about skip saying stupid stuff for views and being full of it. It happens twice and both times You can see skip with the smallest evil grin brewing like a real life supervillain 😂
KD didn’t get traded and Steve Nash and Sean Marks are still in place. I’ve never seen a superstar with less pull than KD 😂 even Deron Williams could get a coach canned
Travis G lol you sound like a Lequeen cheerleader and fan Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving trolled the media and all y'all casual fans Nets have a better Bench we got stronger Nets 2023 NBA Champions revenge
@@oshura2506 I’m not sure what made you think I (or anyone nowadays) don’t know what a “Karen” is. I got what he was saying which is why I laughed. Please keep up, homie.
@@charliehustle9779 your not sure why you using the word Karen completely wrong made multiple people think you don't know what it means? Wow your really smart huh
The funny thing is analysts thought the Warriors were going to trade Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody, Wiggins and Poole for KD when KD left them high and dry in 2019
Left high and dry???? Never heard of that because last time I checked draymond is what caused him to leave after the game them 3 years and was injured on the third
Y’all are tripping…. Yeah he left probably because of the draymond thing but…. It was a money issue. They paid dray steph and klay. If they signed Kd they would have hardly anything for depth or a bench. He was never going to be able to sign with GS. Saying Kd left them high and dry is so dumb.
"If KD's big toe wasn't on the line he would've beaten the Bucks by himself it was one on five." I imagine skip managed to repeat this pointless statement in here at some point lmao
Right the key word is "if," he had his toe on the line so it doesn't matter "if" it was or wasn't, Skip just wishes that it wasn't on the line just so he could say that KD is the greatest player in the NBA and that he could win without Steph and company, and he acts like the word if is an excuse for him, KD has shot over a 1000 3 pointers before that happened so he should've known that it wasn't going to be a three.
I agree with Shannon on Skip making excuses for Kevin Durant. I think this is a bad look on his legacy. He has to deliver on a title on the Nets in order to put this past him, in my opinion.
Nobody can. Jordan needed one of the greatest players in nba history to finally win. People treat this sport is like tennis where every outcome depends solely on one's self
I love when everyone tries to change reality in order to defend KD by saying people were angry with the simple notion of KD leaving Westbrook in OKC and not the fact he was leaving TO JOIN a historically great 73-9 Warriors team loaded with talent and the greatest shooter duo in the history of the NBA in Curry and Klay Thompson, who went on to absolutely obliterate every defense created with the sole purpose of defeating them. That’s a real nice sleight of hand and people got caught up on debating it for years.
I just love how much the media loves talking about him. He damaged his legacy by asking for a trade and now he damaged his legacy by withdrawing the trade lmfao. According to the media, KD is all out of legacy at this point.
kobe was denied a trade in 2007 and won 2 rings later. nobody in the planet has deducted points from kobe, becuase winning erases everything. if kd wins a ring in brooklyn, nobody will remember this offseason.
@@ericamoore4944 the problem is not that he asked for a trade, the problem is that the warriors won a ring without him. Lebron left Cleveland twice, the first time he was panned for leaving the second time he wasn't. The difference is that he won a ring in his second run in Cleveland. If KD won in 2021, the warriors could win in 2022 and KD would not be in the hot seat to the same extent as he is now.
kd is not the same as Kobe, KObe was a leader, KD is a all time talent without Leader ability. they got no chance unless Ky or Sim turn into Magic or Curry and lead the team so KD can just play lol
The problem is people have always tried to put KD on the same level as Lebron when he’s done nothing to put him in that greatest player on earth category. Yes he’s an beyond elite scorer and does everything else at a high level but he’s never been on the level of Lebron James. Kd rings hold 0 weight. I’d take prime kawhi over Kd tbh argue with me about it 🤷🏾♂️
I never understood it myself, I understand the talent but what does that have do with the truth. Kd can win with nothing less than a spectacular team. A good team, he gives you a chance at high success. He just has not done it with anything less than spectacular. Lebron level, he isn't. Kawhi , he has an argument, only because of Mvp and scoring because he was allowed to display his full talent from day 1. Kawhi had to play in a system, with winners with seniority, 3 players to be exact. But I've been saying since 16 Kawhi is a better player than Kd. But that's my opinion.
I wouldn't give up anything for an oft injured, mid thirties star with his best years arguably behind him. You give up everything, and then KD decides he wants out again. Keep him!
This off-season was something else. I mean KD really didn’t have a choice but to stay in Brooklyn because he has four years left in his contract and the asking price to trade him was too much and some of other teams are unwilling to give up a all star player or anything in return but a bunch of draft picks. I mean Brooklyn will be decent for this season but I don’t know if it will be enough cause of all the drama that has happened with him and Kyrie this summer.
KDs choices that summer were go anywhere in the west and lose to steph, go anywhere in the east and lose to Lebron. Or join steph. I'd say he made a good decision tbh.
@@genovaz that man could have went any where to try to beat LeBron or Steph..now he help put this Brooklyn team together..why he didn't do this kind of thing went he lost to Steph?..it also proves to me kd cant lead a team..he can have good players around him.but he cant lead like Steph and LeBron can. Steph took young guys to the finals and won another title..kd needs to learn how to lead or get a leader to lead like how steph did with him..
This guy gets millions to talk out of his arse. Never in history has an athlete been given props for ALMOST winning a conference final. Skippy not even talking about ALMOST winning a NBA championship. When did the NBA give out participation trophies?
Kevin Durant is the over protect player of all time, the guy has just won one series since 2018-19 and they said he is the best player in the world, How???
He talks about Kd as is everybody is standing in his way and keeping him from being successful.. when Skip dont do that for nobody else lmao I don’t know man, you cant talk sense into somebody who think they know every single thing
Kd's choke job against Boston...skip said he was Kevin Ducant and he's not the best in the world...since then.. KD has played no nba games and somehow he's the best in the world without updating his resume??
Part of me says yes KDs legacy was damaged, but at the same time there's nobody good enough in the market for the nets to trade him for; he was gonna be in New York this season whether he took the trade back or not
Jordan Yates you sound salty bro by your logic if Kevin's legacy is damaged so is LeBron James legacy never forget he ran to south beach to create his super team after Boston Dominated him three years in a row kid Kevin Durant trolled all y'all Nets 2023 NBA Champions
@@darnellwilliams8783 Difference is that LBJ delivered a championship everywhere he went and never requested a trade when things got tough. Now, regarding SC, Steph and dem won 2 chips, TWO, without Katie. How many chips has Katie won without the Warriors? And don't say they're gonna win one this season because with all that disfunction between the players and within the organization, they'll be lucky to make the play in.
That gogurt trade was some clown 💩 thats why he aint get traded. But he soft never did nothing without the warriors and steady runnin from the grind. Thats his legacy and giannis beat him and tatum too yall see whats REALLY goin on..
At least Lebron build his own superteam and even if its a failure, he didn't ran away from it while still in contract😂. Not a Lebron fan, but also not a KD fan. Just saying😂.
This is without question a hit on his legacy, simply put, KD made himself look emotional, irresponsible, petty, and indecisive, not a good look for the so-called "best player on the planet".
He can't go one segment without bringing up Lebron. It's the saddest thing in the world to watch a old man work so hard to try and take down someone's legacy.
The 2016 nba finals are the greatest achievement of Lebrons career and is what started the goat debates and over 6 years from then Skip just can’t forgive Steph for allowing that to happen🤣🤣🤣
When Skip said KD's legacy wasn't diminished, I knew he would use that to say that KD is better all time than LeBron. King James beat KD in 2012 because the Heat was the better team, just like KD beat LeBron in 2017 and 2018 because the Warriors were the better team. And KD has ZERO titles outside of GS, LeBron has won with 3 different teams.
@@saadsalman2261 the heat was and when he joined there weren’t a top team in the conference Cleveland wasn’t. it was lebron and kyrie don’t say Kevin love because if you say Kevin love that means you didn’t watch the playoffs or finals love was a bumb after the injury
@@saadsalman2261 CLE was not a super team, love was great before he got to Cleveland, but since he got there he never really fit great with them. So it was just LeBron and Kyrie leading the way. Great team, but no superteam.
I hate what basketball talk has turned into. No other sport is talked about like this. You don’t see a video every month on Aaron Rodgers legacy or on Matthew Staffords legacy. Every month there’s a video about Lebrons GOAT case and KD’s legacy. Heck they talked about those two things more than the Warriors championship.
Shannon: “Be careful, you’ll become the very thing you despise the most in a person…” Skip: “I guess that means you’ve become Kevin Durant…” Skip was on his heels to the worst extent I’ve ever seen in this debate, but that was absolutely a drop the mic note to end on 😂😂😂😂😂
See that's what you're wrong Skip Bayless how are you going to say he wrecked his legacy when Steph Curry with 73 and 9 that is all time great there's no team in the history one 73 and 9 how was his legacy tarnished they lost one game no one in history has that record but the Golden State warriors that's why they called it the weakest move Kevin Durant made
If he went to another team, spurs, clippers, lakers, knicks. We wouldn't be mad or care. But he joined gsw. There was no team in 2016-2017 that can beat em.
"Bayless's Irving" is the Schrödinger's cat of NBA broadcasting. Existing in a purely quantum state; he is a great player who takes significant credit away from Lebron's greatest success, but is simultaneously a bad teammate responsible for Durant's greatest failure.
And now that assumption Skip has been running with is seemingly disproven. Apparently Kyrie is the only member of the Nets who KD consistently spoke to after his trade request - so it doesn’t seem very likely that KD’s trade request was based on how betrayed he felt by Kyrie 🤦♂️
This is good for his legacy, he needs to win a championship on his own team, if he joined another super team that wouldn’t change his legacy because he’s already done that.
If they still win a championship after all this that would be something but who is gonna be the leader to get them there? KD and Kyrie ain’t leaders and Nash seems in over his head.
Regardless of whether or not anyone knew why KD left Russ or not, I was more disappointed with him choosing a historically great team in the Golden State Warriors. And that’s what I heard from people I spoke with… Felt like a easy chip and looked like it after it was done. I was looking for him to go to Washington or almost anywhere but a 73-9 team.
You do know Golden State recruited him??? Know one even knew golden state had the money to sign him that year. Till the news broke last minute they were interested. And that great Team y'all alway talk about. FYI they didn't win that year. Which is why they went after KD.
@@roshonjackson1080 wow a team that wants a championship recruited a great player so surprising it's almost like that's their job😑. FYI they won before Durant got there but Durant never did and got clapped by them the year prior.
@@oshura2506 , you gotta do better than that. Lol same sap come back as everyone else. Exactly they had one!!! Read that again. He got them Two!! But of course they didn't need him right cause they had already won one. You must be one of them kats that only watch your Team? You new Golden State fan this year? Or just a KD hater? Hard to tell y'all apart now a days. 😂😂😂😂
Honestly, KD is NOT that guy in 2023. Despite his resume, imho, KD is nothing more than a great player in a league that already has a HELLUVA lot of great players in it. KD just found that out the hard way.
On paper, for me they for sure the best team. But at the end it’s about a good coach, with a system that at least makes up for 50% of the plays. And the most important things, trust and chemistry.
I realize in Skip Real life HE HAS TO BE RIGHT AT "EVERYTHING" Reason why he says "I first guess this" U can't argue with him because he won't accept it. It is Virgo season too 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah cause asking for the trade in the first place was just weak minded & scratched heads. So him unable to be willing to lead a team hurts his legacy regardless on where he plays from now on UNTIL he wins more chips, that’s the only way his legacy can get back to what it was. He’s great but nahhhhh knocked down a notch for sure
@@KaylaCarswell nah you fanatics are too emotional when it comes to someone else’s business decisions. Kevin Durant could leave every year from every team he plays for for the rest of his career and his talent would STILL be undeniable. Only haters will say it tarnished his legacy. Dude comes back from a damn near impossible to come back from injury like tearing his Achilles and we are STILL comparing him to lebron and some ppl jordan. Steph curry and them ASKED him to come play with them. Why not have fun make money and play with Steph for a few years of a not forever career. There is no superstar ever that wouldn’t want to play with him yet every 2 days Kevin’s legacy is on the line😭😭😭. Some ppl just want to be happy where they are
KD has to win with Nets he's got 2 🏆 yes but dude joined a 73-9 team that lost in game7 of the NBA Finals he's great but has to do it on his own team & he knows thst in his heart of hearts
Besides Golden State, what legacy does KD have? Only thing he has is scoring champ, MVP, and multiple All Star games. If KD really wanted to leave Brooklyn, he shouldn’t have signed that extension.
Shannon again is absolutely right. Skip always trying to be slick and move the goal post. This hurt KD’s legacy tremendously and even Skip admitted it was damaged, it was. From joining Golden State and then failing to do anything with Brooklyn. KD took a huge L right here and he needs to have an MVP season to make us forget about it
This was all set up by KD & Kyrie to get Kyrie back good with the Nets that's why he asked for the trade he resigned with them & they didn't resign his best friend
What does KD's Legecy even matter at this point? Even if he is 3rd in this Era, it is a very distant 3rd. Its 1.Lebron, 2. Curry, 3rd or Higher is just honorable Mentions. Giannis is in a new ERA. This ERA is guys in 10 years plus.
It is what it is at this point with KD. KD's biggest mistake was signing a four year deal in the first place and should have went the lebron route and signed a 2 year to see if he really wanted to be in Brooklyn. He thought he could pull a harden and woke up to the idea he is locked up and has no leverage to do anything. IMO he did it for his boy kyrie after he didn't get a max but they was gonna try to move on from Kyrie regardless after his no-shows. People gotta realize though KD doesn't truly care to "fix" his legacy. He even said this himself by acknowledging he blew it by going to warriors and ring-chasing. Not much can really mess up the optics more than that after we all called the man a snake for 3 years because of it lol. What's a trade request gonna do in the grand scheme of things?
I never hear about players from the start of the NBA and ABA to now requesting trades then taking it back and it being discussed as a players legacy. As Chris Broussard would say "Stop it." No this in no way effects Durants legacy. It will be forgotten in a year or more.
Man im hopimg this shuts down all the fake trade runors weve been seeing the last 2 months Im happy hes staying in BK he was given everything he was asked for since signimg with BK u got 4 years left just play this season and lets see what happens
First, he damaged his legacy by requesting a trade, and now he's damaging it by withdrawing the request. Who said KD wasn't happy? The media is full of clowns.
@@joes.2647 , If you feel that things aren't going according to how they were promised you; you have every right to ask to be removed from the agreement. The Nets had some ideas they didn't disclose as it related to the players. They resolved those issues, and obviously there's no reason to be removed anymore. Everything doesn't have to be perfect. Kobe did the same thing to the Lakers, and the outcome was the same. Both parties challenged the other, and agreed to fix things. KD wasn't public, or looking for praise about the request. All his meeting were private with the individuals involved. Speculation, destinations, demands, and etc. came from the media and fans.
Crystal clear that Kyrie is the only member of the Nets who KD consistently talked to after his trade request? 😂😂😂 these dudes look goofy for treating their assumptions like facts
Kevin Durant wasn't raised right he's a big baby and he's mad because the Golden State warriors won the championship without him and he's taking it out on a nets.
Listen to State of the Union: sprtspod.fox/Lalas
Kd thought after he won 2x against lebron kd thought he was gonna be the best in the world 🌎 and he's not the best so kd is just heart broken 😪 🤦
They... didnt keep... Drummond... aahhh
Well ! " We're Going Too See This Upcoming Season " !! , Too See If K.D Remains With Nets !! , After Next Year Early Season !! , When Trades Can Come Truth Again ! Or , If K.D Stays !! , The One Year Fully Then , If He Wins It !! Without Uncle Drew Messing !!! , Then K.D Legacy Ment It All The Way !! , Not Parts Of If . Young Benny 602 .....................
@Alvalanker right I still need too get Mayne ASAP
Can y'all imagine defending someone that didn't like you? Me neither.
Skip don't mind doing that
That's what separates a real analyst vs an emotional one.
I don’t think it should matter if they like you, if you’re objective you should defend them. I don’t like Chris Paul but I thought he should be in the MVP conversation a couple seasons ago.
Now, the way Skip tries to change reality to defend KD knowing he hates him is crazy.
@@rickyrobby8133 Skip tends to lean to both sides, but I give him props for still defending someone who hates him, but he also picks on players sometimes for no reason.
Shannon however, since KD and him beefed he’ll never actually be fair to KD even when he does well, he has to bring in LeBron to diminish KD. Even when the conversation has nothing to do with LeBron.
can you imagine commenting on every video multiple times every single day? me neither
"I have not tried to defend him once" goes on to defend him.
"I havent given him valid excuses" goes on to give multple "valid" excuses.
Valid????
Skip: "I'm not giving him a pass, I'm giving him a valid excuse"
This guy I swear lol
2 minutes later:Skip says I’ve never gave an excuse for KD’s behavior… this guy is nuts dude lmao
@@jameskelley3578 he kills me everyday yet I can't stop watching lol
Hah skip is great!! Keep gettin em!! ✊
@@nicholasnajibi3082 skip is idiot
Skip’s facial expressions while listening indicate the BS he is cooking up when Shannon speaks about KD 😂.
I know right, I was already laughing before he's turn.😂
All of the, "mmmm" too. Just seasoning being added
Skip closes his eyes when Shannon starts saying things Skip doesn’t like. Skip also says mmmmm or okkk or whatever when Shannon has his backed in a corner. If it wouldn’t break up the show, Shannon would keep pressing Skip to the point of no return
@@maxcusumano5188 unc be letting him off easy frfr
This is a good observation and I’d advise anyone to watch or rewatch the Terrell Suggs debate when him and skip go at it. Watch skips face when Suggs speaks about skip saying stupid stuff for views and being full of it. It happens twice and both times You can see skip with the smallest evil grin brewing like a real life supervillain 😂
KD didn’t get traded and Steve Nash and Sean Marks are still in place. I’ve never seen a superstar with less pull than KD 😂 even Deron Williams could get a coach canned
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Kobe...but nah yall just love dr kd
@@CallMeBezzy Kobe basically forced the lakers to trade shaq so he had pull to an extent and forced the lakers to hire back Phil Jackson
@@CallMeBezzy kobe forced Shaq to get traded
Travis G lol you sound like a Lequeen cheerleader and fan Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving trolled the media and all y'all casual fans Nets have a better Bench we got stronger Nets 2023 NBA Champions revenge
To be fair, Karen Durant’s legacy was already damaged, after he joined the 73-9 team he lost a 3-1 lead to. Despicable.
Right! Glad to see someone who actually uses their brain💯✊🏾
Lol not Karen 🤣
@@charliehustle9779 you don't know what a Karen is.
@@oshura2506 I’m not sure what made you think I (or anyone nowadays) don’t know what a “Karen” is. I got what he was saying which is why I laughed. Please keep up, homie.
@@charliehustle9779 your not sure why you using the word Karen completely wrong made multiple people think you don't know what it means? Wow your really smart huh
Skip keeps letting KD off the hook. And besides, I don’t know how he keeps calling KD the best in the game after what Giannis has done….
Kevin Durant is better than Giannis period
@@DannyT04 no. He’s not. Gianni’s beat him. KD hasn’t done anything since golden state
If giannis get a jumper he’ll most likely be better then kd 😬but that’s a big if lol
@@DannyT04 yeah.....a better shooter and probably passer
@@DannyT04 at shooting that's it.
That lil "yay" from Jen 😂😂😂😂 0:20
The funny thing is analysts thought the Warriors were going to trade Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody, Wiggins and Poole for KD when KD left them high and dry in 2019
Left them high and dry? Lmao
KD didn’t leave them high and dry
Draymond requested KD, and when KD delivered 2 rings, draymond turned his bacc on KD, so KD left
@@LL4Play69 nah tell the full story, dray called said "you a b*tch, we won before you and we gone win without you".
Left high and dry???? Never heard of that because last time I checked draymond is what caused him to leave after the game them 3 years and was injured on the third
Y’all are tripping…. Yeah he left probably because of the draymond thing but…. It was a money issue. They paid dray steph and klay. If they signed Kd they would have hardly anything for depth or a bench. He was never going to be able to sign with GS. Saying Kd left them high and dry is so dumb.
"If KD's big toe wasn't on the line he would've beaten the Bucks by himself it was one on five." I imagine skip managed to repeat this pointless statement in here at some point lmao
His foot fetish
Right the key word is "if," he had his toe on the line so it doesn't matter "if" it was or wasn't, Skip just wishes that it wasn't on the line just so he could say that KD is the greatest player in the NBA and that he could win without Steph and company, and he acts like the word if is an excuse for him, KD has shot over a 1000 3 pointers before that happened so he should've known that it wasn't going to be a three.
Regardless of this statement.. KD was the best player in the playoffs that year y’all don’t give him enough credit for what he has done all year
@@danieljordan420 So are you saying that Giannis was the best player in last years playoffs?
Big word IF 😂😂😂
I agree with Shannon on Skip making excuses for Kevin Durant. I think this is a bad look on his legacy.
He has to deliver on a title on the Nets in order to put this past him, in my opinion.
Lol, you would have had the same comment had he got traded. Stop hating.
KD: Lebron is toxic
Me: KD is hazardous
Kd damaged his legacy running to golden state lol winning in Brooklyn was supposed to redeem it, but KD can't win without a God squad
Exactly and now giannis and tatum done exposed him
imagine losing with kyrie and James Harden
Nobody can. Jordan needed one of the greatest players in nba history to finally win. People treat this sport is like tennis where every outcome depends solely on one's self
@@dominique8662 nice try. Kd had help in okc then joined a 73-9 squad that had a big 3 already. No comparison
@@dominique8662 Tell us you know nothing about Basketball without telling us
I love when everyone tries to change reality in order to defend KD by saying people were angry with the simple notion of KD leaving Westbrook in OKC and not the fact he was leaving TO JOIN a historically great 73-9 Warriors team loaded with talent and the greatest shooter duo in the history of the NBA in Curry and Klay Thompson, who went on to absolutely obliterate every defense created with the sole purpose of defeating them. That’s a real nice sleight of hand and people got caught up on debating it for years.
I just love how much the media loves talking about him. He damaged his legacy by asking for a trade and now he damaged his legacy by withdrawing the trade lmfao. According to the media, KD is all out of legacy at this point.
You can’t damage a legacy you never had
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Facts
People still got em top 15 get off his meat
@@CallMeBezzy you on his meat defending his honor and he doesn’t even know you exist
What about his legacy as a snake tho bro
kobe was denied a trade in 2007 and won 2 rings later. nobody in the planet has deducted points from kobe, becuase winning erases everything.
if kd wins a ring in brooklyn, nobody will remember this offseason.
But he not winning
@@ericamoore4944 the problem is not that he asked for a trade, the problem is that the warriors won a ring without him.
Lebron left Cleveland twice, the first time he was panned for leaving the second time he wasn't. The difference is that he won a ring in his second run in Cleveland. If KD won in 2021, the warriors could win in 2022 and KD would not be in the hot seat to the same extent as he is now.
kd is not the same as Kobe, KObe was a leader, KD is a all time talent without Leader ability. they got no chance unless Ky or Sim turn into Magic or Curry and lead the team so KD can just play lol
Shannon calmly dismantled Skip the entire segment and Skip was forced to spit out hypotheticals and blame everyone but Kd
He didn’t withdraw the trade request the owner said no😂
Don't make sense when they were making trade proposals
@@CallMeBezzy They were making unrealistic requests because they didn't plan on moving him.
Nobody wanted him! He's been playing in the league since he was 19, he's 34 now...... NTM coming off a career ending injury!!!
@@trysephiroth007 whats unrealistic in asking for a star for a star had boston offered JB they would have taken the trade but boston didnt do that
The problem is people have always tried to put KD on the same level as Lebron when he’s done nothing to put him in that greatest player on earth category. Yes he’s an beyond elite scorer and does everything else at a high level but he’s never been on the level of Lebron James. Kd rings hold 0 weight. I’d take prime kawhi over Kd tbh argue with me about it 🤷🏾♂️
I promised myself to never argue with idiots
I never understood it myself, I understand the talent but what does that have do with the truth. Kd can win with nothing less than a spectacular team. A good team, he gives you a chance at high success. He just has not done it with anything less than spectacular. Lebron level, he isn't. Kawhi , he has an argument, only because of Mvp and scoring because he was allowed to display his full talent from day 1. Kawhi had to play in a system, with winners with seniority, 3 players to be exact. But I've been saying since 16 Kawhi is a better player than Kd. But that's my opinion.
durCANT without a 73 win already championship team! Universally known as the weakest move in all of sports history!
📠📠📠📠📠📠📠📠📠📠💯❌💯
Cupcake legacy
KD only hope to fix his legacy is to win a chip with the nets
Giannis and tatum have beat him already he got a lot of redeeming to do
@@L0UDM0UTH The way Tatum flamed out in the finals. Don't count on Tatum to be there next year
Kevin Durant is Kevin Durant …his legacy is fine and will always be fine if he continues to play like Kevin Durant
@CH Just like Kd had major help winning his only two chips in Golden state. What’s your point?
@CH he had help but they would have lost in 4 games without Giannis.
I wouldn't give up anything for an oft injured, mid thirties star with his best years arguably behind him. You give up everything, and then KD decides he wants out again. Keep him!
@nahhhhhhh He is not but that last part is damn true.
@nahhhhhhh So that's a risk other teams are not willing to take. KD requesting trades after every year or two just because it doesn't go his way.
@nahhhhhhh there’s 0 proof to that. He wanted out cause he was embarrassed, it’s that simple. Nothing about Kyrie.
This off-season was something else. I mean KD really didn’t have a choice but to stay in Brooklyn because he has four years left in his contract and the asking price to trade him was too much and some of other teams are unwilling to give up a all star player or anything in return but a bunch of draft picks. I mean Brooklyn will be decent for this season but I don’t know if it will be enough cause of all the drama that has happened with him and Kyrie this summer.
The off season was waste of all us fans time. But a great filler for clickbaits content for fake sports talk shows and TH-cam clickbait content
amazing how Skip managed to blame LeBron in a Kevin Durant drama lmao
Well if Steph wasn't going to beat LeBron, then is it clear to say that KD wasn't going to beat Steph?
KDs choices that summer were go anywhere in the west and lose to steph, go anywhere in the east and lose to Lebron. Or join steph. I'd say he made a good decision tbh.
@@genovaz he didn't have to join Steph
@@genovaz that man could have went any where to try to beat LeBron or Steph..now he help put this Brooklyn team together..why he didn't do this kind of thing went he lost to Steph?..it also proves to me kd cant lead a team..he can have good players around him.but he cant lead like Steph and LeBron can. Steph took young guys to the finals and won another title..kd needs to learn how to lead or get a leader to lead like how steph did with him..
Skip always talking about how K D single-handedly "almost won game 7 vs Milwaukee but like Brandy said "almost doesn't count!
Skip gives KD more credit for a 2nd round lose than he gives curry for winning it all lmao
This guy gets millions to talk out of his arse. Never in history has an athlete been given props for ALMOST winning a conference final. Skippy not even talking about ALMOST winning a NBA championship. When did the NBA give out participation trophies?
Skip is such a flea on Durants nuts lol
Every time kd lose it’s the pg fault lmao
Kevin Durant is the over protect player of all time, the guy has just won one series since 2018-19 and they said he is the best player in the world, How???
I haven't been able to come up a single logical reason
He talks about Kd as is everybody is standing in his way and keeping him from being successful.. when Skip dont do that for nobody else lmao I don’t know man, you cant talk sense into somebody who think they know every single thing
well I guess based on your logic we would have to say the same about LeBron who hasn't even made the playoffs the last 2 years
Kd's choke job against Boston...skip said he was Kevin Ducant and he's not the best in the world...since then.. KD has played no nba games and somehow he's the best in the world without updating his resume??
It’s because the NBA and Nike have put too much money into Kd to allow him to get exposed 🤣
Kevin Durant is a giant baby.
Part of me says yes KDs legacy was damaged, but at the same time there's nobody good enough in the market for the nets to trade him for; he was gonna be in New York this season whether he took the trade back or not
He just not worth what he thought he was, teams giving up their future for a Prime LBJ and SC. KD just isn't as valued as KD think he is
Jordan Yates you sound salty bro by your logic if Kevin's legacy is damaged so is LeBron James legacy never forget he ran to south beach to create his super team after Boston Dominated him three years in a row kid Kevin Durant trolled all y'all Nets 2023 NBA Champions
@@darnellwilliams8783 Difference is that LBJ delivered a championship everywhere he went and never requested a trade when things got tough. Now, regarding SC, Steph and dem won 2 chips, TWO, without Katie. How many chips has Katie won without the Warriors? And don't say they're gonna win one this season because with all that disfunction between the players and within the organization, they'll be lucky to make the play in.
That gogurt trade was some clown 💩 thats why he aint get traded. But he soft never did nothing without the warriors and steady runnin from the grind. Thats his legacy and giannis beat him and tatum too yall see whats REALLY goin on..
At least Lebron build his own superteam and even if its a failure, he didn't ran away from it while still in contract😂. Not a Lebron fan, but also not a KD fan. Just saying😂.
That new CBA gone be crazy 😭😭😭
i expect a lockout tbh
This is without question a hit on his legacy, simply put, KD made himself look emotional, irresponsible, petty, and indecisive, not a good look for the so-called "best player on the planet".
C’mon now, KD is a 2 time NBA champion. His legacy and story has not reached its final chapter. Let’s keep it real here.
Means nothing 😂😂
Kd is a dawg period legacy solidified been solidified Shannon knows nothing lime u
Skip Bayless is sounding more senile every day.
He is pathetic..
He can't go one segment without bringing up Lebron. It's the saddest thing in the world to watch a old man work so hard to try and take down someone's legacy.
KD, was just trying leverage Brooklyn into getting Kyrie contract extension without Kyrie being held accountable for actions.
i suspect that was the case. Brooklyn was not giving in
K d have got a mental problem
No
Nice to see Shannon slowly starting to dominate Skip in whatever nba topic comes up. Go big fella!
The real question is really, “on a scale from 1-10, how does this affect LeBron’s legacy?”
10
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Skip wants to know!!!
🤣🤣🤣
The 2016 nba finals are the greatest achievement of Lebrons career and is what started the goat debates and over 6 years from then Skip just can’t forgive Steph for allowing that to happen🤣🤣🤣
he was already in the goat debate b4 the first finals w the warriors
@@mmlwuke6024 for no reason because before the 1st one he wasnt even past Kobe so idk why he was in those debates anyway.
@@mmlwuke6024 no he wasn't.
@@Surfrider-waves he literally was
His greatest achievement came from getting Draymond suspended smh
I’m convinced Shannon only talk down on kd just to make skip upset 😂
When Skip said KD's legacy wasn't diminished, I knew he would use that to say that KD is better all time than LeBron. King James beat KD in 2012 because the Heat was the better team, just like KD beat LeBron in 2017 and 2018 because the Warriors were the better team. And KD has ZERO titles outside of GS, LeBron has won with 3 different teams.
Lebron won w 2 super teams tho
@@saadsalman2261 Cleveland and La weren’t super teams
@@e6ixshot797 heat and cle were sure
@@saadsalman2261 the heat was and when he joined there weren’t a top team in the conference Cleveland wasn’t. it was lebron and kyrie don’t say Kevin love because if you say Kevin love that means you didn’t watch the playoffs or finals love was a bumb after the injury
@@saadsalman2261 CLE was not a super team, love was great before he got to Cleveland, but since he got there he never really fit great with them. So it was just LeBron and Kyrie leading the way. Great team, but no superteam.
I hate what basketball talk has turned into. No other sport is talked about like this. You don’t see a video every month on Aaron Rodgers legacy or on Matthew Staffords legacy. Every month there’s a video about Lebrons GOAT case and KD’s legacy. Heck they talked about those two things more than the Warriors championship.
That breakdown of the thunder to the Warriors was right on point.
Shannon: “Be careful, you’ll become the very thing you despise the most in a person…”
Skip: “I guess that means you’ve become Kevin Durant…”
Skip was on his heels to the worst extent I’ve ever seen in this debate, but that was absolutely a drop the mic note to end on 😂😂😂😂😂
those are the best moments of skip & shannon
Shannon's last laugh was infectious🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣the change in mood was drastic
See that's what you're wrong Skip Bayless how are you going to say he wrecked his legacy when Steph Curry with 73 and 9 that is all time great there's no team in the history one 73 and 9 how was his legacy tarnished they lost one game no one in history has that record but the Golden State warriors that's why they called it the weakest move Kevin Durant made
KD- Hi
ESPN- Did KD ruin his legacy by saying hi???? 🤣🤣🤣
He damaged his legacy when he went to gs
no he didn't
Fact
He clearly can't lead his own team to a ring, so I'd say it was actually a good move for him. At least he won't end up like Barkley or Malone.
@@RobertSmurda it was a good move for him ? 😂😂😂😂 he needed another mvp to get a ring
@@EdwinHargraves yeah ok
I mean, it was logical. Where else is KD supposed to go and try to get a championship?
Skip turns every topic into a LeBron debate
Nobody was mad at him for leaving Russ lol. We were mad because he went to Golden State.
If he went to another team, spurs, clippers, lakers, knicks. We wouldn't be mad or care. But he joined gsw. There was no team in 2016-2017 that can beat em.
@@adriandantedanosos4146 exactly facts
facts
KD is following that “never let anyone predict your next move” wave
When skip says anyone is “top” anything, that’s how you know they’re average.
His legacy is what it is. When the going gets tough he gets going lol
Skip never going to let that KD toe on the line shot go 🤦🏾♂️
"Bayless's Irving" is the Schrödinger's cat of NBA broadcasting. Existing in a purely quantum state; he is a great player who takes significant credit away from Lebron's greatest success, but is simultaneously a bad teammate responsible for Durant's greatest failure.
And now that assumption Skip has been running with is seemingly disproven. Apparently Kyrie is the only member of the Nets who KD consistently spoke to after his trade request - so it doesn’t seem very likely that KD’s trade request was based on how betrayed he felt by Kyrie 🤦♂️
That's a great point
It’s the “heyyyyy” in the beginning🤣🤣
Which legacy??? He soft he never won a title without a loaded team even Peyton Manning humiliated him at the Espys
This topic is just teed up for Shannon to crush it into the fifth deck, and theres nothing Skip can say about it lmao!😂😂
13:14 hahaha got EM!! He didn’t change Brooklyn’s life 🤣🤣🤣
This is good for his legacy, he needs to win a championship on his own team, if he joined another super team that wouldn’t change his legacy because he’s already done that.
If they still win a championship after all this that would be something but who is gonna be the leader to get them there? KD and Kyrie ain’t leaders and Nash seems in over his head.
durCANT without a 73 win already championship team! Universally known as the weakest move in all of sports history!🙈🙉🙊
@@goatjames328 🤣 🤣 🤣 We was winning before you got here. -Draymond Green
@@Lvnvj 😂🤣and after!😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂💯💯💯💯💯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 we don’t need you
Regardless of whether or not anyone knew why KD left Russ or not, I was more disappointed with him choosing a historically great team in the Golden State Warriors. And that’s what I heard from people I spoke with… Felt like a easy chip and looked like it after it was done. I was looking for him to go to Washington or almost anywhere but a 73-9 team.
Facts
You do know Golden State recruited him???
Know one even knew golden state had the money to sign him that year.
Till the news broke last minute they were interested.
And that great Team y'all alway talk about. FYI they didn't win that year.
Which is why they went after KD.
Exactly!
@@roshonjackson1080 wow a team that wants a championship recruited a great player so surprising it's almost like that's their job😑. FYI they won before Durant got there but Durant never did and got clapped by them the year prior.
@@oshura2506 , you gotta do better than that. Lol same sap come back as everyone else. Exactly they had one!!! Read that again. He got them Two!!
But of course they didn't need him right cause they had already won one.
You must be one of them kats that only watch your Team? You new Golden State fan this year? Or just a KD hater? Hard to tell y'all apart now a days. 😂😂😂😂
Honestly, KD is NOT that guy in 2023. Despite his resume, imho, KD is nothing more than a great player in a league that already has a HELLUVA lot of great players in it.
KD just found that out the hard way.
On paper, for me they for sure the best team. But at the end it’s about a good coach, with a system that at least makes up for 50% of the plays. And the most important things, trust and chemistry.
Shannon really makes this show credible because Skip is too biased with his favorite players
I realize in Skip Real life HE HAS TO BE RIGHT AT "EVERYTHING" Reason why he says "I first guess this" U can't argue with him because he won't accept it. It is Virgo season too 🤣🤣🤣
Shannon has been destroying Skip in these debates lately. Got him stuttering in the studio.
I'm so sick and tired of hearing "Saved Steph's legacy, flew across the country to beg KD, 2 time Finals MVP, Effin toenail!!!"
Skip is the only person on the planet who thinks KD saved Stephs legacy
So if he leaves his legacy is damaged, if he stays his legacy is damaged? Undisputed crazy lol
Yeah cause asking for the trade in the first place was just weak minded & scratched heads. So him unable to be willing to lead a team hurts his legacy regardless on where he plays from now on UNTIL he wins more chips, that’s the only way his legacy can get back to what it was. He’s great but nahhhhh knocked down a notch for sure
@@KaylaCarswell nah you fanatics are too emotional when it comes to someone else’s business decisions. Kevin Durant could leave every year from every team he plays for for the rest of his career and his talent would STILL be undeniable. Only haters will say it tarnished his legacy. Dude comes back from a damn near impossible to come back from injury like tearing his Achilles and we are STILL comparing him to lebron and some ppl jordan. Steph curry and them ASKED him to come play with them. Why not have fun make money and play with Steph for a few years of a not forever career. There is no superstar ever that wouldn’t want to play with him yet every 2 days Kevin’s legacy is on the line😭😭😭. Some ppl just want to be happy where they are
No one but skip and ESPN think Durant is top 5
KD has to win with Nets he's got 2 🏆 yes but dude joined a 73-9 team that lost in game7 of the NBA Finals he's great but has to do it on his own team & he knows thst in his heart of hearts
Besides Golden State, what legacy does KD have? Only thing he has is scoring champ, MVP, and multiple All Star games. If KD really wanted to leave Brooklyn, he shouldn’t have signed that extension.
Shannon again is absolutely right. Skip always trying to be slick and move the goal post. This hurt KD’s legacy tremendously and even Skip admitted it was damaged, it was. From joining Golden State and then failing to do anything with Brooklyn. KD took a huge L right here and he needs to have an MVP season to make us forget about it
Give it up skip, you’re done
This was all set up by KD & Kyrie to get Kyrie back good with the Nets that's why he asked for the trade he resigned with them & they didn't resign his best friend
Checkers not chess
Thank you! I said the samething. This is about loyalty when there is none!
What does KD's Legecy even matter at this point? Even if he is 3rd in this Era, it is a very distant 3rd. Its 1.Lebron, 2. Curry, 3rd or Higher is just honorable Mentions. Giannis is in a new ERA. This ERA is guys in 10 years plus.
It is what it is at this point with KD. KD's biggest mistake was signing a four year deal in the first place and should have went the lebron route and signed a 2 year to see if he really wanted to be in Brooklyn. He thought he could pull a harden and woke up to the idea he is locked up and has no leverage to do anything. IMO he did it for his boy kyrie after he didn't get a max but they was gonna try to move on from Kyrie regardless after his no-shows.
People gotta realize though KD doesn't truly care to "fix" his legacy. He even said this himself by acknowledging he blew it by going to warriors and ring-chasing. Not much can really mess up the optics more than that after we all called the man a snake for 3 years because of it lol. What's a trade request gonna do in the grand scheme of things?
damn skip leave Lebron out of the conversation..for once this has nothing to do with Lebron..
I never hear about players from the start of the NBA and ABA to now requesting trades then taking it back and it being discussed as a players legacy. As Chris Broussard would say "Stop it."
No this in no way effects Durants legacy. It will be forgotten in a year or more.
Skip says “Media people” like he’s not apart of the media. C’mon man seriously? C’mon.
KD career was diminished the moment he went to a 73-9 team.
WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!🏆💪😄 🤣 😂 😆
facts,73-9 THEY LIED
Skip had Shannon all confused 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Nets won because at the end of the day they didn't fire Steve Nash or Sean Marks and they still have KD for 4 years.
Man im hopimg this shuts down all the fake trade runors weve been seeing the last 2 months
Im happy hes staying in BK he was given everything he was asked for since signimg with BK u got 4 years left just play this season and lets see what happens
Unfortunately there will still be Westbrook trade rumors, but yeah, hopefully the end of KD and Kyrie trade rumors
KD's legacy is being the top 5 player in the 2010s, One if the best scorers in the league in terms of skill.
that's it.
yep but never all time top 5. he really had the potential too
It’s sad his mentality capped his potential. He doesn’t know how to lead a group of men
The kyrie excuse doesn't work because LeBron found a way to win a title with kyrie. Why can't KD
didn’t skip say a fault to lebron was that he “quit” on his team bc that’s what the gm or coach said?
A fake narrative of KD saving Steph has become Skip's biggest talking point on KD lol
KD hurt his legacy by requesting a trade and nobody was willing to pay the price. KD value isn't what he think it is.
Nobody was willing to pay the price because of his value.
Skips takes are getting worser by the day
It’s not surprising he’s the worst analyst of all time.
First, he damaged his legacy by requesting a trade, and now he's damaging it by withdrawing the request. Who said KD wasn't happy? The media is full of clowns.
Facts smdh
Because he shouldn’t have requested the trade in the first place
This must be another KD burner account
Hey I found another KD burner account!
@@joes.2647 , If you feel that things aren't going according to how they were promised you; you have every right to ask to be removed from the agreement. The Nets had some ideas they didn't disclose as it related to the players. They resolved those issues, and obviously there's no reason to be removed anymore. Everything doesn't have to be perfect. Kobe did the same thing to the Lakers, and the outcome was the same. Both parties challenged the other, and agreed to fix things. KD wasn't public, or looking for praise about the request. All his meeting were private with the individuals involved. Speculation, destinations, demands, and etc. came from the media and fans.
14:28 Skip out here cussing, goin ham on TV 🤣
Hope there’s a soulmate for him out there cuz with what he’s been doing since the last year at gs don’t look like he’s good at long term happiness 😂
It was crystal clear huh skip 😂😂😂
Crystal clear that Kyrie is the only member of the Nets who KD consistently talked to after his trade request? 😂😂😂 these dudes look goofy for treating their assumptions like facts
Kevin Durant wasn't raised right he's a big baby and he's mad because the Golden State warriors won the championship without him and he's taking it out on a nets.
Skip getting dragged on this round. Next topic 😂😂
lmao the ending was good 😭
I agree 👍 with Skip today
Cant believe ppl get payed so much money to be trolls🤦🏾♂️