Fair fight! I am very happy with my A770, which I bought after feedback from fellow Saabjock about his A770. One thing to note is that Nvidia Pascal, 10 series, is probably the best ever GPU microarchitecture we will ever see regarding gaming performance x price. Also, it was developed when DX11 was the main API, so it is a specialized hardware to the most sims in this test. Great times those were, when crypto and IA were not a thing and Nvidia still had costumers like us somewhere in their priorities.
I agree, it's a tight battle! Glad to hear that you're enjoying the A770, that card is a beast! The 1080Ti is a true powerhouse, it was incredible when it was new and you're right that we will probably never have something like that again. I hope I'm wrong, but if anyone does it I can be certain that it wouldn't be Nvidia.
I've been using the A770-16LE for a little over a year. It has come a very long way in a fairly short time...relatively speaking. I even use it in VR for all of the titles sans the F1 series...I don't have that one. It runs great in everything simracing.
I agree, I'm really impressed with these first generation Intel GPUs! They've developed massively since the launch, and are viable options for sim racers. Especially with pricing in some regions, the Arc graphics cards can be quite a bit cheaper than the Nvidia choices. I do want to dive into AMD GPUs soon too, something that's in the pipeline!
I had mentioned in the video that all of the tests would be 1080p except where noted, but for clarity's sake I will make sure to include that resolution info on each test section :)
Interesting video. All the cards seem to have pluses and minuses. I wouldn't get the 1080 though as support will be running out over time. For me the more consistent frames make the arc a750 a better choice especially as they are still finding performance uplifts in the regular driver updates and current pricing. At the price point of the A750 then AMD are the closest challenger. Also AV1 encoding on the A750 for those that do more than game is worth noting. Lastly if performance is similar then I would always prefer new to second hand. Great video and keep up the good work.
I would be doubtful that support would end soon for the 10 series Nvidia GPUs. The driver updates tend to be more important for new game release optimizations and things like that, while most sim racing titles are pretty stable and not something that would benefit too much from this. I feel this is why GPUs like the RX580 can still be a decent option for a super low budget sim racing build, as the latest AMD drivers should still work well for these sim racing titles without more recent updates. But without a doubt, the Intel GPUs are strong contenders now. I wouldn't have any issues with daily driving this for my personal sim racing rig (I currently have a RTX3080 12GB in my system) and can't wait to see how Battlemage looks! And AV1 is a huge selling point for sure, for streamers or anyone doing video editing work. I really appreciate these comments, I enjoy making these videos and hope that it can provide some guidance for sim racers looking to build or upgrade their PC. Thanks again!
@@CharMandurr86 thanks for the reply, my concern for the 10 series is two fold. First as updates are done then these are unlikely to improve current games for these cards and second if a new version or a new racing game came out there may be issues about outdated drivers however I know these things are rare in the sim world so would likely be ok for now. Still some games are starting to use features which the 10 series (as good as that generation of cards were/are) are not well equipped to run. If performance is similar now and price isn't too much difference then some future proofing wouldn't go amiss. The A580 would also make an interesting card here. That said a budget build for the 10 series card is as shown in your excellent video more than capable for the needs listed here. Maybe I am just worrying about the shelf life too much for these cards.
Thank you for providing information of this nature. I appreciate your showing the driver issues as they are. It looks like you had to do a bit more work in getting them updated but you were able to overcome the issue in the end, fairly easy. Still hoping Intel stays in the GPU game. The competition is really needed. I am a new subscriber thanks to what you have provided!
While it was a minor annoyance to deal with the driver not wanting to connect to update automatically, I figured it was worth noting as it's a well utilized feature with AMD and Nvidia GPU drivers. I've bought 3 Intel Arc GPUs so far- an A770 in my streaming PC, an A380 in my video editing workstation, and an A750 for the testing in these videos. I might pull the A770 out and run it through these tests too at some point, if there's interest in it. Thanks so much for subscribing, I'm looking to put out more PC hardware testing videos like this soon! Along with some sim racing videos, and other ideas too!
10:35 it is my opinion that the GTX 1080 Ti is the best graphics chip/card ever made. However, what I have noticed is most reviewers such as yourself mainly focus on FPS, why? Temperature and power consumption to deliver results are equally as important. Say you buy a 1080 Ti that might cost a bit less than a750, but you get more FPS. You will be paying more LONG TERM on cooling AND ELECTRICITY BILL. Just keep those in mind. With that said, the a750 blow those, yes I know "OLDER CARDS" off the charts.
Thank you! I think the Intel Arc GPUs are amazing value in the sim racing space, every title worked solidly with no weird issues or dealbreakers. Can't wait to see what Battlemage has to offer!
i recently got a MSI RTX 3060 and compared to my Series X i was blown away at how good it was. should of gone down this route way before. also my pc spec is a Ryzen 5600 msi b550 32g ram. really impressed with how pc is running sims. a 3060 is defo worth checking out.
That's a great build! I still think AM4 platforms are the best value by far, with how much you can upgrade a very low end system. I went from a 3700X to a 5800X3D and fell in love with the ultra smooth frame pacing.
If you watched the video, you would hear me say that I would be testing in 1080p other than where specified. I can make sure to list the resolution for those of you who don't actually watch it...
wow a750 is prety big. i love chonky cards. using rx 6700xt red devil atm the chongkiest i can get in used market working realy good. almost complete my dream build. just need 2argb fans a ultrawide 34" 2k 100hz++ need change my membrane keyboard to tkl
This A750 is pretty big, as big as the GTX1080Ti I have, while this RTX3060 is tiny in comparison! A 6700XT can be tremendous value, especially if you find a good deal used. That build sounds like it's going to be great, enjoy it!
Fair fight! I am very happy with my A770, which I bought after feedback from fellow Saabjock about his A770.
One thing to note is that Nvidia Pascal, 10 series, is probably the best ever GPU microarchitecture we will ever see regarding gaming performance x price. Also, it was developed when DX11 was the main API, so it is a specialized hardware to the most sims in this test.
Great times those were, when crypto and IA were not a thing and Nvidia still had costumers like us somewhere in their priorities.
I agree, it's a tight battle! Glad to hear that you're enjoying the A770, that card is a beast!
The 1080Ti is a true powerhouse, it was incredible when it was new and you're right that we will probably never have something like that again. I hope I'm wrong, but if anyone does it I can be certain that it wouldn't be Nvidia.
I've been using the A770-16LE for a little over a year.
It has come a very long way in a fairly short time...relatively speaking.
I even use it in VR for all of the titles sans the F1 series...I don't have that one.
It runs great in everything simracing.
I agree, I'm really impressed with these first generation Intel GPUs! They've developed massively since the launch, and are viable options for sim racers. Especially with pricing in some regions, the Arc graphics cards can be quite a bit cheaper than the Nvidia choices.
I do want to dive into AMD GPUs soon too, something that's in the pipeline!
Other than when you put 4k on the screen you never said what other resolutions you used. please include 👍
I had mentioned in the video that all of the tests would be 1080p except where noted, but for clarity's sake I will make sure to include that resolution info on each test section :)
Interesting video. All the cards seem to have pluses and minuses. I wouldn't get the 1080 though as support will be running out over time. For me the more consistent frames make the arc a750 a better choice especially as they are still finding performance uplifts in the regular driver updates and current pricing. At the price point of the A750 then AMD are the closest challenger. Also AV1 encoding on the A750 for those that do more than game is worth noting. Lastly if performance is similar then I would always prefer new to second hand. Great video and keep up the good work.
I would be doubtful that support would end soon for the 10 series Nvidia GPUs.
The driver updates tend to be more important for new game release optimizations and things like that, while most sim racing titles are pretty stable and not something that would benefit too much from this. I feel this is why GPUs like the RX580 can still be a decent option for a super low budget sim racing build, as the latest AMD drivers should still work well for these sim racing titles without more recent updates.
But without a doubt, the Intel GPUs are strong contenders now. I wouldn't have any issues with daily driving this for my personal sim racing rig (I currently have a RTX3080 12GB in my system) and can't wait to see how Battlemage looks! And AV1 is a huge selling point for sure, for streamers or anyone doing video editing work.
I really appreciate these comments, I enjoy making these videos and hope that it can provide some guidance for sim racers looking to build or upgrade their PC. Thanks again!
@@CharMandurr86 thanks for the reply, my concern for the 10 series is two fold. First as updates are done then these are unlikely to improve current games for these cards and second if a new version or a new racing game came out there may be issues about outdated drivers however I know these things are rare in the sim world so would likely be ok for now. Still some games are starting to use features which the 10 series (as good as that generation of cards were/are) are not well equipped to run. If performance is similar now and price isn't too much difference then some future proofing wouldn't go amiss. The A580 would also make an interesting card here. That said a budget build for the 10 series card is as shown in your excellent video more than capable for the needs listed here. Maybe I am just worrying about the shelf life too much for these cards.
Thank you for providing information of this nature. I appreciate your showing the driver issues as they are. It looks like you had to do a bit more work in getting them updated but you were able to overcome the issue in the end, fairly easy. Still hoping Intel stays in the GPU game. The competition is really needed. I am a new subscriber thanks to what you have provided!
While it was a minor annoyance to deal with the driver not wanting to connect to update automatically, I figured it was worth noting as it's a well utilized feature with AMD and Nvidia GPU drivers.
I've bought 3 Intel Arc GPUs so far- an A770 in my streaming PC, an A380 in my video editing workstation, and an A750 for the testing in these videos. I might pull the A770 out and run it through these tests too at some point, if there's interest in it.
Thanks so much for subscribing, I'm looking to put out more PC hardware testing videos like this soon! Along with some sim racing videos, and other ideas too!
10:35 it is my opinion that the GTX 1080 Ti is the best graphics chip/card ever made. However, what I have noticed is most reviewers such as yourself mainly focus on FPS, why? Temperature and power consumption to deliver results are equally as important. Say you buy a 1080 Ti that might cost a bit less than a750, but you get more FPS. You will be paying more LONG TERM on cooling AND ELECTRICITY BILL. Just keep those in mind. With that said, the a750 blow those, yes I know "OLDER CARDS" off the charts.
This is a great point! I'm going to make sure to include some coverage around power consumption and heat as well!
Great video and info here.
This is pretty impressive actually... works quite well. nice video
Thank you! I think the Intel Arc GPUs are amazing value in the sim racing space, every title worked solidly with no weird issues or dealbreakers.
Can't wait to see what Battlemage has to offer!
i recently got a MSI RTX 3060 and compared to my Series X i was blown away at how good it was. should of gone down this route way before. also my pc spec is a Ryzen 5600 msi b550 32g ram. really impressed with how pc is running sims. a 3060 is defo worth checking out.
That's a great build! I still think AM4 platforms are the best value by far, with how much you can upgrade a very low end system. I went from a 3700X to a 5800X3D and fell in love with the ultra smooth frame pacing.
Is the drivers update for intel arc fixed yet??
I want to buy one of them
Would you recommed me 1080ti or arc a750 for
When you provide no resolution to these tests besides the occasional "4K" for a certain game, these results are useless.
If you watched the video, you would hear me say that I would be testing in 1080p other than where specified.
I can make sure to list the resolution for those of you who don't actually watch it...
wow a750 is prety big.
i love chonky cards.
using rx 6700xt red devil atm the chongkiest i can get in used market working realy good.
almost complete my dream build.
just need 2argb fans
a ultrawide 34" 2k 100hz++
need change my membrane keyboard to tkl
This A750 is pretty big, as big as the GTX1080Ti I have, while this RTX3060 is tiny in comparison!
A 6700XT can be tremendous value, especially if you find a good deal used. That build sounds like it's going to be great, enjoy it!