uhhhh it means everything!!! it has to be exact same guitar, amp, amp inards, transformer, cables, pick, strings, barometric pressure outside same temp onside ratio, sun and moon alignment from 1980, the same crab they found in the drum kit during recording it or it all means nothing...... or not. settings please. i have one love it.
But you overlooked that Angus Tech said these Amps were modified to preamp and Master instead of the two volumes, so the changed the preamp section to an 800er style... That's why there are no jumping cables at Angus Amps.
The proper amp for Back in Black tones would be the “Black Flag” JTM50 Angus used for that session and tour. He also used it for HTH. SoloDallas is one of the few companies that builds a reproduction of that transitional model between the JTM45 and JCM50. Ang used 800s much later on.
Marco Jeronimo Angus have master modded on his amps nowdays. He didn’t in the past but he used Master Volume Marshalls for a while in the 70’s possibly early 80’s.
Angus’s Tech said that was for his 2016 tour rig. Back In Black was 36 years before that, so no, that’s not relevant to the discussion. Both Malcolm and Angus did use 2203’s in the late 70’s/early 80’s so MV amps were used at certain times, but their NMV amps were usually stock.
Did you use an attenuator to your 1987X? As you said you get more distortion than Angus. But the 1987 uses the same preamp as the 1959 and the 1987 probably sounds a little bit more compressed.
Angus, Do you happen to recall what your amp output was into? Did you go into a cabinet? I sent you an email to the address on your webpage I am trying to figure out a few things especially with amp/full stack cabinet combinations. I am interested in a Solo Dallas product and the one you demonstrate here sounds good. You really got a great AC/DC tone with a 1987X and the Solo Dallas I'm thinking with one of my rigs I can get the Let There be Rock tone!!!! maybe.... one can hope! Also, Thanks for taking time to do these videos, I did some on the Marshall Forum with my HotMod in a 2203 and it truly takes time and commitment!
@Ray Baker yes I was using a 4x12 with greenbacks mic’d with a 57 and an M160. Not sure about the settings though. I start with the eq all at noon. When I mix the channels I usually have the hi at 1pm and the lo at 10am. Here it’s just the hi channel so I probably just had it around 11 am.
In my honest opinion, this solodallas storm pedal (and the Schaffer tower) are both neat little gadgets that can get you that acdc sound when they were with Mutt Lange (producer). But if you want THE acdc sound, the REAL acdc sound, that sound can only be heard on Let there be rock. And the best way to get that sound, is to just turn the amps up loud. No toys or gadgets and pedals or anything. Let the bridge pickup and the amp do all the work. That's the acdc sound, and you don't need the storm pedal. Let there be rock was recorded and released in Australia in March 1977. Then internationally July 1977. They didn't even discover the Schaffer tower until August 1977. So if you want the true acdc sound, Angus' true sound, then you just have to take your plexi, with a Marshall cab with greenback speakers, and turn it up to 8 or 9. And really let the tubes get hot. Then take a guitar with a humberbucker pickup, (specifically a Gibson) and turn it all the way up, with the tone on 10, and the volume all the way on. Make sure you're on the bridge pickup. And there you have it. The true acdc sound. It's not hard. But it is that option, do I want to turn it all the way up and kill my ears, or not?
@@matsandersson8857 yeah, he turns down a little bit playing rhythm, and turn up for the solos. That's why you see him playing with the volume all the time on stage.
@@matsandersson8857 yeah I fucked up, I forgot how it is. The tone is on 10 when you turn it to the left and it's off when you turn it to the right. I had it backwards.
I would have to a/b it in context with a track or play a bunch of gigs with it on my board and turn it on and off to find out. I think my 1987x is a lot gainier than Angus' 1959s. I'm pretty sure the 1987x is known for that. So... it probably won't make as much difference for me as it did for Angus. Might make a difference if I'm on a gig where I can't turn the amp up - which is most gigs! If "To Hell and Black" (my AC/DC tribute) ever gets around to playing again I'll be able to find out. I'll let you know! I'm also hoping to make a demo of me using it in a track to get a better picture of it in context. And yeah, it's like two different flavors of boost and a compressor/expander circuit that colors the attack. But hey, some pedals do a lot less for a lot more money. I'm totally biased about my amp though. The guitar sounds amazing plugged straight in, so it's hard to justify adding anything to the signal chain unless it's to generate a specific effect. Best, A @sonicmilk
Scamp Thelazycat the “list” goes flubby? Is that a typo? Let me know what you mean, I just did another vid using this pedal, check that out too, thanks!
I also prefer his tone without the pedal, not to say it's a bad pedal or smt, but I'm so used to the tone of my plexi without pedals.. maybe it's the same with you?
@@TheEngarn I haven't made up my mind about it. This pedal does a subtle thing, I don't think it's worth putting on a pedal board over a more versatile drive pedal. I think in the context of a mix it could be useful for getting a bit of dimension between doubled tracks or to make an overdub jump out. Thanks for watching!
@@AngusClarkGTR I agree, have tried one shortly. It does some roll off to the high end that could be very useful in a mix. The low end compression it adds can get a mix muddy but can also give a lot of punch to the sound. Good job with the video, cheers!
uhhhh it means everything!!! it has to be exact same guitar, amp, amp inards, transformer, cables, pick, strings, barometric pressure outside same temp onside ratio, sun and moon alignment from 1980, the same crab they found in the drum kit during recording it or it all means nothing...... or not. settings please. i have one love it.
Angus that sounds fantastic. Great little toy to jam some ac/dc riffs. ⚡⚡🎸🎼🎸👍👍👍
That's Back in Black Angus tone for sure! Now I need to get me one.
But you overlooked that Angus Tech said these Amps were modified to preamp and Master instead of the two volumes, so the changed the preamp section to an 800er style... That's why there are no jumping cables at Angus Amps.
Marco Jeronimo great point - time to make another video!
The proper amp for Back in Black tones would be the “Black Flag” JTM50 Angus used for that session and tour. He also used it for HTH. SoloDallas is one of the few companies that builds a reproduction of that transitional model between the JTM45 and JCM50. Ang used 800s much later on.
Marco Jeronimo Angus have master modded on his amps nowdays. He didn’t in the past but he used Master Volume Marshalls for a while in the 70’s possibly early 80’s.
Angus’s Tech said that was for his 2016 tour rig. Back In Black was 36 years before that, so no, that’s not relevant to the discussion. Both Malcolm and Angus did use 2203’s in the late 70’s/early 80’s so MV amps were used at certain times, but their NMV amps were usually stock.
Did you use an attenuator to your 1987X? As you said you get more distortion than Angus. But the 1987 uses the same preamp as the 1959 and the 1987 probably sounds a little bit more compressed.
I did not use an attenuator for this video
Nice demo. Thanks for sharing.
Why, would you leave the camera on your amp while playing??
Angus, Do you happen to recall what your amp output was into? Did you go into a cabinet? I sent you an email to the address on your webpage I am trying to figure out a few things especially with amp/full stack cabinet combinations. I am interested in a Solo Dallas product and the one you demonstrate here sounds good. You really got a great AC/DC tone with a 1987X and the Solo Dallas I'm thinking with one of my rigs I can get the Let There be Rock tone!!!! maybe.... one can hope!
Also, Thanks for taking time to do these videos, I did some on the Marshall Forum with my HotMod in a 2203 and it truly takes time and commitment!
@Ray Baker yes I was using a 4x12 with greenbacks mic’d with a 57 and an M160. Not sure about the settings though. I start with the eq all at noon. When I mix the channels I usually have the hi at 1pm and the lo at 10am. Here it’s just the hi channel so I probably just had it around 11 am.
In my honest opinion, this solodallas storm pedal (and the Schaffer tower) are both neat little gadgets that can get you that acdc sound when they were with Mutt Lange (producer). But if you want THE acdc sound, the REAL acdc sound, that sound can only be heard on Let there be rock. And the best way to get that sound, is to just turn the amps up loud. No toys or gadgets and pedals or anything. Let the bridge pickup and the amp do all the work. That's the acdc sound, and you don't need the storm pedal. Let there be rock was recorded and released in Australia in March 1977. Then internationally July 1977. They didn't even discover the Schaffer tower until August 1977. So if you want the true acdc sound, Angus' true sound, then you just have to take your plexi, with a Marshall cab with greenback speakers, and turn it up to 8 or 9. And really let the tubes get hot. Then take a guitar with a humberbucker pickup, (specifically a Gibson) and turn it all the way up, with the tone on 10, and the volume all the way on. Make sure you're on the bridge pickup. And there you have it. The true acdc sound. It's not hard. But it is that option, do I want to turn it all the way up and kill my ears, or not?
PATRIOTIC RockaRoller Tone on the guitar should be on 10 not off. Angus usually turn down the volume on the guitar when playing rythm guitar.
@@matsandersson8857 yeah, he turns down a little bit playing rhythm, and turn up for the solos. That's why you see him playing with the volume all the time on stage.
@@matsandersson8857 yeah I fucked up, I forgot how it is. The tone is on 10 when you turn it to the left and it's off when you turn it to the right. I had it backwards.
Feel free to ask any questions here in the comments!
In your opinion is it worth the high asking price? I hear it’s just a compressor and a boost. Great demo btw.
I would have to a/b it in context with a track or play a bunch of gigs with it on my board and turn it on and off to find out. I think my 1987x is a lot gainier than Angus' 1959s. I'm pretty sure the 1987x is known for that. So... it probably won't make as much difference for me as it did for Angus. Might make a difference if I'm on a gig where I can't turn the amp up - which is most gigs!
If "To Hell and Black" (my AC/DC tribute) ever gets around to playing again I'll be able to find out. I'll let you know!
I'm also hoping to make a demo of me using it in a track to get a better picture of it in context.
And yeah, it's like two different flavors of boost and a compressor/expander circuit that colors the attack. But hey, some pedals do a lot less for a lot more money.
I'm totally biased about my amp though. The guitar sounds amazing plugged straight in, so it's hard to justify adding anything to the signal chain unless it's to generate a specific effect.
Best,
A
@sonicmilk
Angus Clark you have an incredible sounding rig. I might actually pick one up. I’ve noticed if I shop around I can find one in the 230 range.
sonicmilk thanks man! Let me know how you like it!
"If that means anything to you" lol
Like how he played highway to hell in the walkthrough of Back in black
anyone else think when the pedal is engaged the list goes flubby ?
Scamp Thelazycat the “list” goes flubby? Is that a typo? Let me know what you mean, I just did another vid using this pedal, check that out too, thanks!
I also prefer his tone without the pedal, not to say it's a bad pedal or smt, but I'm so used to the tone of my plexi without pedals.. maybe it's the same with you?
@@TheEngarn I haven't made up my mind about it. This pedal does a subtle thing, I don't think it's worth putting on a pedal board over a more versatile drive pedal. I think in the context of a mix it could be useful for getting a bit of dimension between doubled tracks or to make an overdub jump out. Thanks for watching!
@@AngusClarkGTR I agree, have tried one shortly. It does some roll off to the high end that could be very useful in a mix. The low end compression it adds can get a mix muddy but can also give a lot of punch to the sound. Good job with the video, cheers!
If you need a pedal for a Marshall amp then you need a line 6 amp instead.
Old school you just plug straight into the amp
Shoe String Player Wow, you know so much more about tone than Angus Young. He should listen to you!!!
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