What I found reassuring about this video is the lady that said the touch of all the pianos are like real (7:16), and that it was the sound that gave them away. This says to me that having a good digital, like the ones featured, is definitely good enough to be practicing on and that moving to a real piano in the future shouldn't require much of a transition. I have been looking into getting a new piano and while I initially wanted a real piano I decided, for now, I will stick with digital because a) they can be moved easily, b) silent practice in unsociable hours. Both of which are more important -_to me_ than the tone being indistinguishable from a real piano.
Practicing at night is very important to me as I don’t have much time in the day. It is more important to have enough practice than to have an acoustic piano but suck at it
Got one myself now. Couldn’t play my real piano because I’m either at work or my kids sleep in the evening. Now I can play whenever and it’s honestly a great „instrument“. Feels like a good piano and sounds very much like one as well.
I mean, the first lady didn't just pass the test... She knew the exact make and model within 10 notes! She might know them better than the manufacturers!
And I'm so glad that someone finally called Roland out for sounding Roland. Wonderful for those who want to sound Roland, but bad news for those who want a convincing real piano sound.
This video made my day. I just bought a brand new Kawai GL40 a few months ago and I also own a Casio GP510 (which she thought was a real piano) at 1:40. I love them both but tempted at getting a Kawai CA901 as well. I also own a Roland FP60X for fun and a Yamaha P515. Multiple guitars as well.
They're also confused by the CASIO GP-510 Which is half the price of Kawai NV5 so if I'm going digital I'll go with the CASIO which is unlikely to happen at this price range where I can buy a Cheap Korean Acoustic..
A good acoustic piano still to this day sounds better than the digital version. But they are getting closer and closer with psychoacoustics etc. Maybe in 15 years time...
I suspect that in MANY aspects of a FILM Single Lens Reflex Camera are still better than a Digital Camera. However, MOST people don't give a crap. In fact, even Digital Camera Stores are going out of business all over as MOST people find the latest Cell Phone Cameras to be wonderful for THEIR needs. I'm sure that I can appreciate the Sound of an Acoustic Piano like a Bechstein or Steinway or Bosendorfer or Shigeru Kawai when listening to a concert. For $100,000 there SHOULD be a distinction. However, the Sound and Touch of MANY of these sub $10,000 digitals is plenty appealing for most AVERAGE pianists. My wife and I tested a Casio GP500 a couple years ago and were quite impressed. Now that we live in an apartment again, a Digital Piano is on our list with the advantage of being able to use headphones so as not to disturb our neighbours. Will likely be a Casio GP510 or a Kawai CA99 although we haven't tried the latter yet.
No offense, but it is easier than that. Every acoustic piano on here had notes out of tune. A digital doesn't unless it was planned that way. Ok, that said, I like the NV5, also.
I was giving up buying a real piano since I live at apartment. This clip offered ppl like me a hope that digital piano can be an alternative of acoustic piano.
Most experienced pianists can tell the difference by how the action feels. But ultimately, it's the "sound" that is more important. Unless, all you care is people "see" you play. It'd be an interesting test to have them just listen to the sound.
The sound is actually way more telling (as one of the ladies says). I'm still waiting for the first digital piano/samples that sounds real and right. They are all different shades of pink trying to come off as red.
There is a 100% blind test to tell if it is digital. Press a key, and then half release it with care, on a real piano you can partially dampen the strings, letting the sustain continue at a lower volume. This is because the dampener can be lowered to partially touch the strings (it is like half pedaling, but done with the fingers). On a digital piano, also the NV5, the note cannot be partially muted only using the keys. Not to say that this is required in real playing, but you can tell if it is digital.
The First Lady is a Pro she also Guesses the Models Correctly...not just the Digital from the Acoustic...she recognised the NV5 with hesitation but almost fooled by the Casio GP510, I assume these two are as close as you can get to an Acoustic with a Digital but in the same Range price I'd go with the real deal, used or new...
The CA99 sound surprisingly ok, as do the high mid of the NV5, but it's such a world of difference between even the super expensive digital pianos/samples/plugs and the real thing. They all have that weird compressed top end that really annoys me. And still, Kawai is the one that annoy me the least. I blind tested a bunch (sound only) and always ended up at the Kawais. Bought a 39 for my studio but it's not in the neighborhood of the old upright piano I grew up with. I like the K25 in this test, but I think it requires a room with some hard surfaces around it to shine - it would not impress as much in a dampened studio environment.
Hi! There is a lady who makes a comment about Roland that I do not understand, can you translate it into English? Or at least tell me if she liked it or not?
Does the NV5 hammers hitting still feel real at low volume ? Ive tried a hybrid Casio & the action is nice at medium or high volume but at low volume feels fake! “Too hard”
It’s a given if you’re playing at a low volume that it feels hard. You can’t turn down a real piano so don’t expect your hybrid to perform real at a low setting because pow volume setting is by nature unrealistic. It’s better try with the headphones on.
Maybe you felt that way because Casio's GP action lacks escapement, which is a feature found in acoustics to enhance softer playing. But they did that for a purpose: having the fastest repetition on the digital piano market.
If you are any kind of piano professional it's extremely easy to say if you play yourself.. it would be a bit more difficult to say if someone else plays.. but still matter of seconds unless it's high end VST like Garritan CFX
Interesting, it should be nice to know the bacjground of the testers... I mean, the first girl seems to be ear- master, but also the others, I mean, playing blind involve a good technique... I assume they all have great experience... anyway, despite the sound, I still believe that a nv5 or 10 is better than a real old piano or a basic one (let s say under 15-20k dollars), for sure for home or practice... And I disagree, if you are not playing for an audience, paid, the most important thing is the "technique it can permit you to use", as repetitions and speed; and the possibilites the instrument gives ( playing at night, practice when you want).
*This video is advertising in favor of the Kawai NV5. I have tried this piano in store and it is not as good as they try to make us believe, personally I prefer the CASIO GP*
@@AS01SDNFor me it’s the opposite. I was interested in the GP310/510 but my teacher warned me that Casio is not a traditional piano maker. Then I got to try the gp310 in the store and was totally underwhelmed by the action as well as sound. So I ordered the NV5S and was blown away by the touch, tone and responsiveness of this hybrid piano. The Casio GP series is a budget instrument and may be good value to some. But for serious students of classical piano, it’s not good enough.
@@AS01SDN You may prefer it, but there's a difference between good and realistic. Personally I think it sticks out sound wise in a way that's not flattering. It has that doubled clinky top that I don't like with fake pianos (as do the digital Kawais but not as much). The NV5 sounds surprisingly real, but not in the low end and not when played hard. Ironic that these digital pianos are all way to expensive for my taste yet they all sound too cheap for my taste. 😬😄
I don't care. I live in a small flat and I am very happy with my ca78. It sounds amazing. And btw I play for myself and never become a concert pianist. That's why a digital piano is absolutely enough for me
Out of curiosity... As far as I know (from other reviews) the CA99 and the NV-5 should actually sound very similair. Almost the same engine, Soundboard, Speaker Setup etc. are almost identical. So how do people differentiate between the two?
I would guess because of the cabinet design, the NV5 is significantly larger than the CA99. In speaker terms, this would allow more air to be moved around which often gives a fuller sound especially on the lower note. It is the same reason why subwoofer are huge.
Shame there's no Yamaha AvantGrand. Anyway, NV5 uses real upright action so it's impossible to distinguish between digital and acoustic based on touch itself. You should ask the teachers to play while depressing the damper pedal because the tonal variation and length of sustain produced is one major factor that sets acoustics apart from digital.
One thing you forgot: the virtual technician on the Novus 10 and 5 and the CA99 and 79 can adjust your piano very much, including the sustain, touch features, resonance, and much more. Go to the Kawai website, look at one of these four, and read the owners manual.
The electronic features on the nv5 are truly impressive. You can adjust virtually everything on it. And truly make it impressive. Merriam pianos has a little video on it in their updated review.
These ladies are not exactly Vladimir Horowitz, and yet blindfolded they can all tell the difference between a digital and a real piano. There's a message there.
But maybe not the message you think... It doesn't mean the acoustic is "better," just different, at least if we're comparing the highest quality digital with a good acoustic. And I think it really depends what you're used to: if you have only played digitals, you may prefer the sound to an acoustic. Familiarity can be a powerful thing. And that's just being in front of the instrument. If we're talking about recording music, the difference lessens. I don't think the term "real" piano is really the right one here, either. A digital is real, just different. "Acoustic" is more appropriate and accurate than "real".
@@Biozene “real piano” is the literal translation from “真钢琴” which means acoustic piano in Chinese. I believe the Chinese language is often more poetic and less accurate...
I was sitting at a Yamaha piano fitted with their digital system and was completely shocked when the salesman changed it to a harpsichord sound... I imagine you’d be able to differentiate them with experience, but I thought I had been playing the acoustic piano up until the moment the sound changed 🤣
As someone who sold Casio GP510 and switched to Kawai CA 99. I would say that the GP510 is not a good piano for long runs. Too heavy keys, harsh and pointless recoil are of no help to the piano player. Casio GP510 When you play a piece you are working on with another piano, you realize that you are overloading the keys. Playing with headphones is extremely unpleasant. Amp and sound card are not enough. Therefore, it may be ideal for concert halls, but if you are working on difficult and complex works at home for 6-7 hours a day. I would not recommend Casio. Long pianissimos, on the other hand, become torture in casio. I recently tried to record a moonlight sonata and noticed that the casio started to scream strangely when you accidentally got a little too heavy on one of the keys. This was the main reason why I decided to sell. Kawai CA99, on the other hand, has an obedient, docile and non-tiring nature. The keys work as they should. We get along pretty well for now.
lol you cannot judge audio on youtube buddy. Go to a store and you will see the CA79 destroys Yamaha and Roland easily in its price range and even above it. Apples to Apples
@@shaolin95 Even the most expensive Rolands sound pretty bad to me. In the $2000 - $4000 USD range, I think Yamaha and Kawai have comparably good sound, maybe with a slight edge to the Yamahas. But I like the action on the Kawai ones MUCH better.
I whole heartedly agree with Shaolin95. Go to the store, play, feel, hear. The upper-end Kawai digitals and hybrids are far and away better than the others. FYI: own a CA98 and can move seamlessly from my CA98 to my instructor’s Steinway and vice versa. Im not saying they are identical. I am saying the upper end Kawai’s are terrific for practice and sound beautiful too.
What I found reassuring about this video is the lady that said the touch of all the pianos are like real (7:16), and that it was the sound that gave them away. This says to me that having a good digital, like the ones featured, is definitely good enough to be practicing on and that moving to a real piano in the future shouldn't require much of a transition.
I have been looking into getting a new piano and while I initially wanted a real piano I decided, for now, I will stick with digital because a) they can be moved easily, b) silent practice in unsociable hours. Both of which are more important -_to me_ than the tone being indistinguishable from a real piano.
Practicing at night is very important to me as I don’t have much time in the day. It is more important to have enough practice than to have an acoustic piano but suck at it
很具有说服力的环节设置和差异化体现，进一步坚定了我在CA99和NV5之间的选择，非常感谢那么有趣和有帮助视频的制作和分享，赞！
謝謝，希望這影片對您有幫助 ：）
机械钢琴的声音非常有金属光泽，而且还能感觉到声音作用到身体上。喇叭出来的声音总是感觉不够鲜活，NV5确实惊艳，可惜大陆没有的卖，只能买CA99给孩子练习了，不过就算CA99也比其他电钢出色很多。
That nv5 is truly impressive. And it's definitely good enough to practice with.
Got one myself now. Couldn’t play my real piano because I’m either at work or my kids sleep in the evening. Now I can play whenever and it’s honestly a great „instrument“. Feels like a good piano and sounds very much like one as well.
I mean, the first lady didn't just pass the test... She knew the exact make and model within 10 notes! She might know them better than the manufacturers!
The first lady was a mutant with super hearing!
And I'm so glad that someone finally called Roland out for sounding Roland. Wonderful for those who want to sound Roland, but bad news for those who want a convincing real piano sound.
This is a very cool video. I am a beginner and cannot tell the difference but they got almost all of them right.
This video made my day. I just bought a brand new Kawai GL40 a few months ago and I also own a Casio GP510 (which she thought was a real piano) at 1:40. I love them both but tempted at getting a Kawai CA901 as well. I also own a Roland FP60X for fun and a Yamaha P515. Multiple guitars as well.
GAS?
This is the best review ever!! Great idea and so informative!! Thank you for posting this!!
Really impressed with the NV5
Almost perfect
They're also confused by the CASIO GP-510 Which is half the price of Kawai NV5 so if I'm going digital I'll go with the CASIO which is unlikely to happen at this price range where I can buy a Cheap Korean Acoustic..
谢谢您。。我一直准备买ca99的，看了你的视频准备改买nv5了。。。而且确实ca99明显能听出是digital的声音哭哭。就是好贵呀呜呜呜
Yes, so do I.
聽力及對琴的認識都
很厲害！
A good acoustic piano still to this day sounds better than the digital version. But they are getting closer and closer with psychoacoustics etc. Maybe in 15 years time...
I suspect that in MANY aspects of a FILM Single Lens Reflex Camera are still better than a Digital Camera. However, MOST people don't give a crap. In fact, even Digital Camera Stores are going out of business all over as MOST people find the latest Cell Phone Cameras to be wonderful for THEIR needs.
I'm sure that I can appreciate the Sound of an Acoustic Piano like a Bechstein or Steinway or Bosendorfer or Shigeru Kawai when listening to a concert. For $100,000 there SHOULD be a distinction. However, the Sound and Touch of MANY of these sub $10,000 digitals is plenty appealing for most AVERAGE pianists. My wife and I tested a Casio GP500 a couple years ago and were quite impressed. Now that we live in an apartment again, a Digital Piano is on our list with the advantage of being able to use headphones so as not to disturb our neighbours. Will likely be a Casio GP510 or a Kawai CA99 although we haven't tried the latter yet.
5 years is enough let see 2027
@@balbadddddddd8073 They've tried so hard for 45 years and you think they'll finally make it now? Nah... :)
No offense, but it is easier than that. Every acoustic piano on here had notes out of tune. A digital doesn't unless it was planned that way. Ok, that said, I like the NV5, also.
Yes - I often think digital piano makers should include a variable detune option to better simulate a real piano. Useful for this type of blind test.
@@brickmissing8295 I find the upright piano setting on the ca models emulates this out of tune characteristic very realistically
Roland's Strech Tuning isn't that?
It’s really interesting 🤔 so I want to play the NV5 !!
That first lady is soo good! Her description of K-25 is funny 😂😂
I was giving up buying a real piano since I live at apartment.
This clip offered ppl like me a hope that digital piano can be an alternative of acoustic piano.
They had the most difficult time with the casio gp510. That's saying a lot.
Casio partner C. Bechstein for its touch and sample sound. So its no surprise they feel and sound good.
Most experienced pianists can tell the difference by how the action feels. But ultimately, it's the "sound" that is more important. Unless, all you care is people "see" you play. It'd be an interesting test to have them just listen to the sound.
The sound is actually way more telling (as one of the ladies says). I'm still waiting for the first digital piano/samples that sounds real and right. They are all different shades of pink trying to come off as red.
Thanks... I was thinking about buying a hybrid... not anymore
第一個老師也太強👍
Casio totally out of my expectation in this price range. It sounded very close to real piano. Of course NV5 is still the best, but more expensive.
Impressive. Very much. Would not have expected the NV5 and CA99 to be that much different. Also, the Casio is a surprise.
Yeah. I always plan to buy a CA99. But after watching this video, I totally change my mind....
@Barber Tim Not here. The CA99 in polished ebony is just approx. 25% less than the NV5.
谢谢你哦，明年给孩子买钢琴本来打算买CA99,现在决定了NV5 或者真钢琴了
您的選擇是對的 😃
真钢健会震动，大部分数字琴不会。只要摸着琴键，特别是低音键，很容易区分。
NV5的背後有木頭響板，有連動著一組震動系統，所以NV5的琴鍵也會震動 😊 (其實整台琴都會有震動共鳴)
@@muse.youtube clp 785 有加模拟震动 下次测一测？
非常有意思的影片，推一下。
I love this video
thx 😃
哇！太厲害了，NV5竟然可以這麼真實，連鋼琴老師都會誤認是真鋼琴，難怪要價不菲啊！
這個世代最好的技術，真的很真實
@@muse.youtube 这个价位是不是买真钢比较好？电钢顶多也耐5年。
@@townnet 問題是電鋼琴可以接耳機
@@townnet 為什麼電鋼壽命那麼短?
@@anson1104 这样厂商才有生意咯。也不一定是5年啦。其实也要看琴主使用的程度如何。是否运气好选到品质较好的琴。
这个蒙眼測試很有意思，我很感兴趣有没有可能把钢琴演奏录制下来，和电钢的内录放在一起，是否也能做一个盲测？
將來若再拍盲測影片，不妨讓受測者坐在旋轉椅子上邊轉邊推著走，一方面如果是員工，比較不知被推到哪裡，另一方面坐著彈的感覺會更真實，敏銳度更高，當分辨出現疑慮時，若能試彈自己拿手旋律，會比亂彈的感覺更精準敏銳
謝謝您的建議，這部影片其實只是當下突發奇想的隨意紀錄而已，不是什麼認真的規模大片XD
一開始只有先測試老闆娘，
影片中的第一位老師是老闆娘，只有她有認識這些鋼琴跟型號，所以她有說出鋼琴的型號，
而在測試老闆娘時，我也怕她已經知道每一台琴的相對位置，
所以一開始我先帶著她原地轉好幾圈，才彈第一台，
之後每彈一台琴之後，會繼續隨機亂走+來回走+原地轉圈 (就是為了要混淆她XD)
但礙於影片會太冗長所以將過程都剪掉了。
而後面我們才又找一天，找幾位當天教課下課後的鋼琴老師來做測試，
這些老師完全不懂電鋼琴，也不知道我們展場有什麼型號跟擺放位置，
也在進入展場之前，我們就先蒙上他們的眼睛，所以這部分是完全沒有疑慮的。
測試前我們只告訴老師說：「待會裡面會有真正的鋼琴，也有數位鋼琴，你要說哪一個是數位的，哪一個是真的」，也沒有請老師要該怎麼去測試或該彈奏什麼，看他們要怎麼彈都可以，
或許是因為蒙上眼睛，每一個人的「直覺反應」都是隨意亂彈吧(？) 😅
There is a 100% blind test to tell if it is digital. Press a key, and then half release it with care, on a real piano you can partially dampen the strings, letting the sustain continue at a lower volume. This is because the dampener can be lowered to partially touch the strings (it is like half pedaling, but done with the fingers). On a digital piano, also the NV5, the note cannot be partially muted only using the keys. Not to say that this is required in real playing, but you can tell if it is digital.
The First Lady is a Pro she also Guesses the Models Correctly...not just the Digital from the Acoustic...she recognised the NV5 with hesitation but almost fooled by the Casio GP510, I assume these two are as close as you can get to an Acoustic with a Digital but in the same Range price I'd go with the real deal, used or new...
很实在的商家啊，好就是好，不好就是不好，实话实说。
Kudos to Casio for being almost like a digital at a lot less cost
第一个老师太牛了！
That was superb to watch thankyou
Very interesting video!
I like how she just spot on recognized the Roland x) ! What about the nv10 ?
Haha ! It's easy to recognized Roland's Sound , NV10 is coming soon 😀
@@muse.youtubedid she say.. sounds like shit!!? 😂😂😂
我感觉gp510比ca99听着更像真钢一点 另外我感觉单音的话 不太能听出来 但是连弹比较明显 尤其是低音部分的连弹 老板你觉得呢
The CA99 sound surprisingly ok, as do the high mid of the NV5, but it's such a world of difference between even the super expensive digital pianos/samples/plugs and the real thing. They all have that weird compressed top end that really annoys me. And still, Kawai is the one that annoy me the least. I blind tested a bunch (sound only) and always ended up at the Kawais. Bought a 39 for my studio but it's not in the neighborhood of the old upright piano I grew up with. I like the K25 in this test, but I think it requires a room with some hard surfaces around it to shine - it would not impress as much in a dampened studio environment.
2:52 I own a Roland LX-708 and this makes me feel sad. This person identified it as digital IMMEDIATELY! Wow does it sound that fake?
De casio gp 510 is toch een knap staaltje werk voor zijn geld , dat ze hem eerst als akoestisch omschreef .
En daarna pas twijfelde over digitaal
Hi! There is a lady who makes a comment about Roland that I do not understand, can you translate it into English? Or at least tell me if she liked it or not?
She don't like it , because the "DIGITAL" sound😅
Does the NV5 hammers hitting still feel real at low volume ?
Ive tried a hybrid Casio & the action is nice at medium or high volume but at low volume feels fake! “Too hard”
It’s a given if you’re playing at a low volume that it feels hard. You can’t turn down a real piano so don’t expect your hybrid to perform real at a low setting because pow volume setting is by nature unrealistic. It’s better try with the headphones on.
@@briansun6336 thanks very much for your reply! Wonder which digital is most fun to play? It’s for song writing in a studio & for midi recording
Maybe you felt that way because Casio's GP action lacks escapement, which is a feature found in acoustics to enhance softer playing. But they did that for a purpose: having the fastest repetition on the digital piano market.
感覺定鋼琴的低音沒什麼共鳴 一般鋼琴的低音通常會有共鳴聲吧
If you are any kind of piano professional it's extremely easy to say if you play yourself.. it would be a bit more difficult to say if someone else plays.. but still matter of seconds unless it's high end VST like Garritan CFX
請教盲測電鋼的音量是開到最大嗎？ 或是？ 因為透過影片無法真實感受臨場。
您好，每台電鋼琴都是調整到「跟真正鋼琴相同的音量」，特別是高階款的喇叭瓦數很大很大聲，所以通常不會開到最大。
请问nv5s和k200 atx4相比的优点在哪里？这两款在涨价后价格太相近了。谢谢
噢对了 想问问nv5台币是多少钱呢
Interesting, it should be nice to know the bacjground of the testers... I mean, the first girl seems to be ear- master, but also the others, I mean, playing blind involve a good technique... I assume they all have great experience... anyway, despite the sound, I still believe that a nv5 or 10 is better than a real old piano or a basic one (let s say under 15-20k dollars), for sure for home or practice...
And I disagree, if you are not playing for an audience, paid, the most important thing is the "technique it can permit you to use", as repetitions and speed; and the possibilites the instrument gives ( playing at night, practice when you want).
Roland声音怎么了是不好吗？
Very nice video. All the testers were skilled players and got fooled (convinced) sometimes. NV5 seems to be very convincing
*This video is advertising in favor of the Kawai NV5. I have tried this piano in store and it is not as good as they try to make us believe, personally I prefer the CASIO GP*
@@AS01SDNFor me it’s the opposite. I was interested in the GP310/510 but my teacher warned me that Casio is not a traditional piano maker. Then I got to try the gp310 in the store and was totally underwhelmed by the action as well as sound. So I ordered the NV5S and was blown away by the touch, tone and responsiveness of this hybrid piano. The Casio GP series is a budget instrument and may be good value to some. But for serious students of classical piano, it’s not good enough.
@@AS01SDN You may prefer it, but there's a difference between good and realistic. Personally I think it sticks out sound wise in a way that's not flattering. It has that doubled clinky top that I don't like with fake pianos (as do the digital Kawais but not as much). The NV5 sounds surprisingly real, but not in the low end and not when played hard. Ironic that these digital pianos are all way to expensive for my taste yet they all sound too cheap for my taste. 😬😄
好玩
作为一个小白，说实话我听不出来；希望以后继续出yamaha系列的对比视频
哇，看完忽然对CA99好失望😭本以为它声音和nv5同一水准嘞，看来还是不行诶
我也一样，看完就把ca99的购买计划放弃了...
完全不同水準 差異一倍以上 😎
繆思樂器 看來貴有貴的道理呢，期待老闆娘更細緻的評測，好厲害🤩
Tao Wang 这个价位一直在纠结nu1x和ca99，但感觉yamaha的音效还不如kawai...
ca99确实不行。我买了之后退回去了。音箱噪音太大。同样是ca99，不一样琴噪音也不一样。而且如果非钢琴漆型号的做工粗糙。nv5个方面要好很多。
NV5真的是大魔王欸😂
想知kawai nv5 vs yamaha CLP 785 比較
這...完全不同等級，售價差了一倍，比較就太殘酷了，會一面倒 😅
@@muse.youtube
應該是nv5 和 n1x 相比較適合
有機會做kawai Yamaha高階混合鋼琴系列盲測嗎？
I don't care. I live in a small flat and I am very happy with my ca78. It sounds amazing. And btw I play for myself and never become a concert pianist. That's why a digital piano is absolutely enough for me
Nobody said it's not good enough for you. It's just interesting that a professional can easily tell the difference.
@@depejuneja I would expect a professional to be able to tell the difference. What about the average joe though?
你好, 請問老師比較喜歡NV5還是NU1X?
當然是NV5呢，這兩台等級差非常多，音色與手感的流暢度也有差異
So easy to differentiate digital from acoustic piano. Great.
If it sounds like a grand but echo from a close wall, you know it's digital...
*CASIO GP 510 WIN !!!*
你好，大陆朋友想买一台nv5，请问可以出售么
您好，我們無法銷售到中國，非常抱歉
直接买nv10s就可以了 咱中国有卖nv10s nv5s就算是真的击弦机也是直立钢琴的
@@DUXia 很多弹惯upright的会喜欢nv5s的手感，而且这两款价差太大了，10s和k300 aure差不多了吧
Out of curiosity...
As far as I know (from other reviews) the CA99 and the NV-5 should actually sound very similair. Almost the same engine, Soundboard, Speaker Setup etc. are almost identical. So how do people differentiate between the two?
how about the touch?
You woud thik so, but they donut. The nv5 sound much better. The touch is much more natural too. Less resistive.
The sound is completely different, the CA99 sounds thin, bright, artificial and metallic, it’s a whole world of difference between the two…
I would guess because of the cabinet design, the NV5 is significantly larger than the CA99. In speaker terms, this would allow more air to be moved around which often gives a fuller sound especially on the lower note. It is the same reason why subwoofer are huge.
Shame there's no Yamaha AvantGrand. Anyway, NV5 uses real upright action so it's impossible to distinguish between digital and acoustic based on touch itself. You should ask the teachers to play while depressing the damper pedal because the tonal variation and length of sustain produced is one major factor that sets acoustics apart from digital.
Yamaha samples sounds like plastic, it would be very easy to discard.
One thing you forgot: the virtual technician on the Novus 10 and 5 and the CA99 and 79 can adjust your piano very much, including the sustain, touch features, resonance, and much more. Go to the Kawai website, look at one of these four, and read the owners manual.
The electronic features on the nv5 are truly impressive. You can adjust virtually everything on it. And truly make it impressive. Merriam pianos has a little video on it in their updated review.
These ladies are not exactly Vladimir Horowitz, and yet blindfolded they can all tell the difference between a digital and a real piano. There's a message there.
Agreed. However the nv5 fooled a couple of them. Very impressive.
@@yifeiliu7160 yeah I gotta get me one of those babies
But maybe not the message you think...
It doesn't mean the acoustic is "better," just different, at least if we're comparing the highest quality digital with a good acoustic. And I think it really depends what you're used to: if you have only played digitals, you may prefer the sound to an acoustic. Familiarity can be a powerful thing.
And that's just being in front of the instrument. If we're talking about recording music, the difference lessens.
I don't think the term "real" piano is really the right one here, either. A digital is real, just different. "Acoustic" is more appropriate and accurate than "real".
@@Biozene “real piano” is the literal translation from “真钢琴” which means acoustic piano in Chinese. I believe the Chinese language is often more poetic and less accurate...
Actually I think the second one was Horowitz in disguise.
大部分的電鋼琴透過影片的聲音都能分辨....(為什麼？)
分不太出來的時候,
感覺老師會透過琴鍵手感還有低頻的體感或是整體的共鳴判斷!
對於學鋼琴,或許手感是有差異的,
若是單純把聲音"好好的"錄下來,再透過音響播送
(不管是錄下播出來的聲音 或是電鋼琴聲音直接進電腦)
還能分辨得出來電鋼琴嗎？感覺這樣就會很難了....
ca99和gp510對比區別大嗎？
算是同等級的，可以一起比較，兩台琴鍵與聲音的特色明顯不同，值得現場實際比較，用個人的感受與喜好去選擇
请问第一位老师是怎么两次都准确判断出NV5的？ 如果没有接触过NV5，纯粹在没有信息的情况下盲弹，很难有人立马说出这是数码琴。后面几位老师也都是在NV5是有过纠结的。从他们纠结的过程中，可以看出，第一时间的手感是钢琴手感，但是音色又不是很像真钢琴，总有那么点不对。但是你却没办法否定，它肯定不是钢琴，因为和一般的数位琴比，它也的确不一样。就是这种模棱两可的感觉。
这个视频挺不错的，从结论我们至少可以看出，NV5是完全区别于一般电钢琴的。哪怕CA99也是一下子即可辨认出来的。这说明KAWAI在NV5的设计上是成功的，至少像真钢琴迈进了一大步！
呵呵，沒錯，就是這種「這一定不是數位鋼琴，好像是鋼琴但是又有點不確定」讓很多人產生了疑惑，甚至是覺得它就真得像鋼琴。
影片中的第一位老師是老闆娘，她是整部影片唯一知道賣場裡面有哪些型號的，不過她也只能辨識出NV5，其他琴她在盲測下也無法光聽聲音就知道是哪一個型號 (除了那台聲音扁扁的K25 😆)
她辨識出NV5的最主要原因就是上述說的那種「不確定性」，因為疑惑了，所以猜它是NV5。
影片的其他位老師都不是銷售人員，也不知道目前市面上有什麼產品，我們只要她們辨識是鋼琴或是數位鋼琴。
@@muse.youtube
尽管第一位老师知道商店里的钢琴及其型号，但她不确定卡西欧 GP-510，所以我认为它的触感比 NV5 更好，如果我错了，请纠正我。
I was sitting at a Yamaha piano fitted with their digital system and was completely shocked when the salesman changed it to a harpsichord sound...
I imagine you’d be able to differentiate them with experience, but I thought I had been playing the acoustic piano up until the moment the sound changed 🤣
What Yamaha model?
第一位老師好逗
為什麼沒有Yamaha 🤣
第一位老師是老闆娘啊～～～🤣 為什麼沒有Yamaha？影片拍攝時間Yamaha CLP型號剛好在改款中，展示機也早就出清了，
所以Y神從缺。
@@muse.youtube 为什么没有NU1X……
@@resortk7548 如果nu1x在可能会被nv5s虐到lol
@@muse.youtube n1x 和 n5 哪個更好？
As someone who sold Casio GP510 and switched to Kawai CA 99. I would say that the GP510 is not a good piano for long runs. Too heavy keys, harsh and pointless recoil are of no help to the piano player. Casio GP510 When you play a piece you are working on with another piano, you realize that you are overloading the keys. Playing with headphones is extremely unpleasant. Amp and sound card are not enough. Therefore, it may be ideal for concert halls, but if you are working on difficult and complex works at home for 6-7 hours a day. I would not recommend Casio. Long pianissimos, on the other hand, become torture in casio. I recently tried to record a moonlight sonata and noticed that the casio started to scream strangely when you accidentally got a little too heavy on one of the keys. This was the main reason why I decided to sell. Kawai CA99, on the other hand, has an obedient, docile and non-tiring nature. The keys work as they should. We get along pretty well for now.
covidian test that's sick
CA79 sounded worst, but it is cheapest.
lol you cannot judge audio on youtube buddy. Go to a store and you will see the CA79 destroys Yamaha and Roland easily in its price range and even above it. Apples to Apples
@@shaolin95 Even the most expensive Rolands sound pretty bad to me. In the $2000 - $4000 USD range, I think Yamaha and Kawai have comparably good sound, maybe with a slight edge to the Yamahas. But I like the action on the Kawai ones MUCH better.
makes you wonder
I whole heartedly agree with Shaolin95. Go to the store, play, feel, hear. The upper-end Kawai digitals and hybrids are far and away better than the others. FYI: own a CA98 and can move seamlessly from my CA98 to my instructor’s Steinway and vice versa. Im not saying they are identical. I am saying the upper end Kawai’s are terrific for practice and sound beautiful too.
In fact real pianos are diferent and bether....