Why the Japanese Were TERRIFIED of Their Last Dying Thoughts
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Is that why Usagi said that the king of hell would rip out Makoto's tongue when she was killed in the fight against Metallia and Beryl?
Great video as always!
😴💤💕 Hope so
Thanks!
Not after this! 😆🤣😆 just kidding. Great video, your animation has improved greatly. Love your work, praying for you.
Being forced to repeat words from a book while even on your deathbed...it's like the college entrance exams in China but to get into heaven, instead.
I agree, that is why I had to confront my parents and ask them why they had me chanting "I like big butts and I cannot lie"?!
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Japanese have crazy college entrance exams as well, no less to Chinese. So it fits their belief
dude I'm pretty sure everyone is in some way terrified or in fear of the end, but it's inevitable so stop the worrying
@@DustinBarlow8P Did they explain to you that gods an ass man
So the monks were trying to maximize their influence. Be a Buddhist in life and at the moment of dying or you go to hell.
they cant all be atheist and think nothing of life or death...
Yep, that’s pretty much all religions. In some form or fashion, they are abt control
not really. not being Buddhist isn't and generally wasn't believed to be an automatic ticket to hell, nor was being Buddhist a guarentee of good rebirth. the idea that the moment of death had special rules would certainly put a huge amount of importance on what you do then, but it also made what you did the rest of your life less important by comparison, which actually would give monks less influence not more.
Religions were meant to be guiding forces in a society where most commoners couldn't afford daily deep introspections. In my opinion, polytheist ones were kind of whimsical, contradictory and due to that, they usually gave an individual freedom to choose their spiritual path.
Monotheist religions or worshippers of one particular deity in polytheist ones, had the concept of 'believe in our God or you go to Hell'. I don't know how Buddhism fell into that category, it's not exactly monotheistic, but classifying religions is hard. It was an incredibly petty way of excluding others which served a certain purpose in the real world & a pretty good motivator to form a society fairly homogenous in its beliefs.
Although from my experience of Hinduism and Shintoism, in polytheist religions, one-deity groups claim belief in their God to be a surefire way to earn Heaven, not necessarily that those who don't believe will go to Hell.
Religions used to be like a science, it explained the world and gave a framework for philosophy.
Hell wasn't much in the minds of people from Abrahamic religions until the church became the *Church*. Then Those who craved power soon realised that the church had a massive influence.
As with most powerful institutions, it attracted many bad apples. Pretty soon Christians had the fear of hell thrust upon them, and people with flashy headwear had a powerful tool.
"... an 80 year old woman... because she's free from the filthiness of sex..." and Linfamy says "right". Made my day
This whole thing must've been a nightmare for people who suffered from Scrupulosity, a subset of OCD where you obsess over whether or not you're a moral person and fear not being good enough to be saved. There were no psychiatrists then, either.
Sounds like a nasty OCD
People with ocd probably didn't live long enough and most likely died in the streets
A very common problem among Catholics 😂 so much so that every priest is trained in how to deal with it
You gave me a picture on how or what would my thoughts be if im gonna be dying 🤣.. my mind just keeps on raising different thoughts sometimes in conflict with one another and most of the time questioning it on whether if its morally good or bad
@Miguel Silva There's a line between wanting to be better and being overconcerned about every, even minor, sin.
“Sometimes, they would continue chanting up to four hours after.” Damn, that /is/ a good friend.
srsly
Death sounds like a ridiculously high pressure event for the person who is dying. Death should be more like a graduation day not final exams 😂
I have questions:
- Did the death rituals coincide with the floorboard storage and sending back of babies?
- Were nose worms a common thing back then in widowed women or did a widow of someone with a high social status need weird nose worms explained away without writing a new demon or instant qualifying ticket to hell while maintaining her place on the social ladder?
Yes mabiki was practiced too.
The white worms...I believe it's referring to the corpse meditation that I talked about in an earlier video. The white worms are maggots that feed on a woman's corpse.
Dont they mean nose worse on the corpse of the wife?
A good way to let people get away with not living up to their religion's ideals. "If you do this one thing, the rest of it doesn't count"
Calling out Catholics huh? That's fair. As long as you repent, all is forgiven...
@@WolfieDawn I mean, christians in general, but yes.
@@WolfieDawn so long as you mean it (and by "mean it", I meant willing to change) and make up for your past mistakes to put it short
I think it would be much harder to control your thoughts and not think anything "wrong" for several days, than to just be a good person in general. And actions is also what actually influences the world around you, and can help or harm others, and in most cases more of a deliberate choice than your thoughts. So it makes much more sense morally and logically to have actions (of whats within your power) be the thing you're judged by. I wonder if (and it probably was) those excused were made for the more powerful people like priests to just ignore their own religions rules, that they tell everyone else to follow
@@samwill7259
Oh no, how dare they want people to... be better?
I remember that as my grandmother was dying, we passed around a Bible and recited Scripture and various prayers so she could hear holy words as she left this life. Other families also keep the superstition of whispering requests and wishes in the ears of the dying, as they are seen to be speedy messengers to God in the afterlife.
... In our country that last bit can be a curse. We call that superstition "Bulong" at it ain't free... In exchange you have to fulfill the dying person's wish or that person' soul will follow you around...
wait isn’t “Bulong” a tagalog word?
My sister works in a nursing home! I am picturing half these scene being replayed in addition to the crap they put her through every day. In all honesty, she treats them very respectfully but they do get out of hand some times. Pretty difficult when Pappa spends the last 6 months going looney!
A dementia care home? I wouldnt work there. My aunt started stripping off and lying down across doors so they couldn't be opened. Firecrew had to be called to go in via the window
Most nursing homes I've worked in do have a deathbed practice, where specially assigned personnel sit by the dying person's bedside and help them out, as well as alert family members and other personnel when it's time.
Also, I don't know where your sister works, but in the nursing homes I've been in, most people on their deathbed have lived years inside the nursing home.
That's the problem with the old and dying, they're so inconsiderate.
For God's sake...what an insensitive, selfish little brat. I hope you end up in one of those places being taken care of by someone like you.
@@BathersonMote m8, theyre on their last legs. Dont think they can be even if they wanted to.
"Even after death, mom could ruin your life" - I laughed out loud at that one!
I think I'd be a bit miffed if I spent my life living an exemplary Buddhist life, only to end up in Buddhist hell because I had a stray thought as I was dying.
Put your faith in Amida at any point of your life.
And then it doesn't matter what you were thinking at the moment of death.
At least from the point of view of the skeptics mentioned at the end of the video.
Buddhist hell is full of people who lived good, kind lives, but were cursed with attention disorders, probably
Im going to buddhist hell then. @@stephweasenforth7891
I hate when one catches a bad case of the dying
This is fairly similar to what was happening in medieval Europe roughly around the same time, ars moriendi, the Art of Dying Well. Texts that told the reader how to approach death without giving into temptation and focusing on god's love.
It's crazy how similar medieval Europe and medieval Japan were.
It also reminds me of Alice in Borderland (spoiler) ....
... The ending of Alice in Borderland when they reveal that it's actually a different realm with different rules of karma and that everyone is actually on the BRINK of death. Some pass on, some return to life. It's framed as a test of your "essence"?! Your abilities, your philosophies, etc. You even get a choice to remain in the Borderland.
Yah, sitting and contemplating decaying dead people probably did cool off erotic desires. Maybe all other desires, too, except the desire to go somewhere else.
9:20 I laughed when you said "these aint buddhists, this some bullsh*t." your delivery was on point lmaoo
Exceptional spectrum of Death Rituals ranging from "Good Friends" all the way to the suicide ritual of "Seppuku" for Dishonor.
My mom passed years ago. My sister related that mom kept looking past my sister, leaning to see over or past my sister's shoulder. Mom was looking into an empty corner of the room near the door. She kept doing it over and over, until my atheist sister got very annoyed and asked mom what she was doing, because everyone there to send her off was no where near that zone of the room. My mom said that she was looking at the VERY handsome man smiling at her from that corner of the room and would my sister move out of her way so she could see him better; she died some time not long after that. I humbly submit that a so-called "angel of death"/ "ministering spirit" is less terrifying to some than others.
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Thank you for your hard work.
Thanks for watching :)
"If I tell you 'Don't think of a cartoon turtle.' you can't help but think of Mitch McConnell." I laughed so hard! And I'm a Republican who friggin hates Mitch 'No neck' McConnell.
Mitch the Neocon
Pretty much everyone hates McConnell at this point, including conservative Republicans
Honestly, I was already imagining a cartoon turtle, so that sudden "Mitch McConnell" gave me mental whiplash. It was still funny though.
I forget to delete my browser history before I died.
That's rough buddy
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Aw ;)
𝘘𝘶𝘪𝘤𝘬 𝘲𝘶𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘥𝘰 𝘴𝘢𝘮𝘢 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯???
@UCmUxB-r12IiU3-5YmHIN5rg it's like "your majesty"
@@yui8163 It's a respectful honorific in Japanese.
@@Pyorittelisinkohan 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘬𝘴 𝘴𝘰 𝘮𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘐 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘯𝘵 𝘵𝘰 𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘯𝘢𝘮𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘪𝘵 𝘣𝘶𝘵 𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘐 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘬𝘴 𝘢𝘨𝘢𝘪𝘯
Honen disregarded the importance of the thoughts at the time of death, basically so long as you've said the Nembutsu at least once, you're basically covered lol
I always enjoy your videos so much Lin, they're so interesting, informative and of course funny as hell! You are a much needed distraction from my disgusting and incessant nose worm problem. Keep it up, you are definitely headed for the Pure Land 🥰🤗
Thanks! Good luck with the nose worm problem.
Am your noseworm, can confirm
As a billy of the hills, it’s wild how many of these rituals resemble southern Christian traditions... the death bed conversion, the death watch, recitation of scripture, the idea that final visions reveal a destination...
Well, the wise men were from the east
@@michaelmiller6675
My understanding is those fellas were Zoroastrians
Not sure what they do with their dead
You’ve inspired me to learn
@@michaelmiller6675
Wild
So the Zoroastrians put their dead on towers so as to be exposed to the elements and carrion birds
Makes more sense IMO than pumping corpses full of poisons
So the “good friends” are basically hospice nurses that give you a sort of last rites?
For some reason this episode made me think about Ninja Scroll for some reason. Mainly the scene where the freaky ninja lady tried to kill Jubei in the temple with all those snakes.
Wow, somehow most human societies take something that is already crummy and inevitable (death), and make it way harder as some kind of huge last challenge (the Egyptian book of the Dead, the river Styx, medieval Christianity). I guess there was actually is some benefit in this, but is seems so odd from a modern perspective. Having worked in hospitals….deaths are hugely individual, from some people fighting to the last, some people deciding at a certain point with a terminal condition, it is clearly time, small number of guests, huge number of guests, lots of jokes and happy atmosphere, tears, people understandably wanting a lot of control, people understandably saying “look…just be kind and make me comfortable, I don’t want to discuss every medical detail,” all manner or religious support or none, etc.
Despite the conspiracy theories, doctors/nurses actually much prefer to give you your preferences in dying, the staff get paid the same salary whether you want home comfort care or every intensive care intervention, and understand that the same medical tech that can prolong life, can also prolong the process of dying when death is inevitable, which is often the default option if your preferences aren’t known (not a great default, but ethically better than the alternative). Be sure to have an Advanced Medical Directive to make your preferences known…you are of course free to change your mind on anything (seen this happen multiple times, just by saying so) and the forms are simple to fill out.
I don't think "prolonging the process of dying" is ethical when its given the person will die from it and has gotten so sick they're no longer functional and can just lie in bed. Why do we assume its "what people want" when we dont know, and the vast majority of people would probably prefer to die sooner than later in those cases if asked. And either way neither have a good quality of life or hope to get that later, they cant contribute anything either when just lying in their bed (not that, that by itself determines someones right to live). I think euthanasia should be legal when someone is terminally ill (not just in any case where someone is suicidal, but in most cases the chance to get better is there)
It's literally Bart Simpson's plan. Live how he wanted and repent at his dying bed. He just became an evangelic tycoon to have an insurance for sudden death.
"Oh god please don't let me die"
-what i imagine is the last thought a lot of people have.
nah, "finally" is the last thought of almost all people as soon as death sets in and they feel the peace and quiet it brings. Except evil people, which feel regret once they start paying for the evil deeds they done during life.
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Your the reason I passed history
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Didn’t pass the punctuation quiz, I see.
I thought on the TMNT when Linfamy said cartoon turtle 😁
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I once had a horrible panic attack while smoking spice and thought I was dying, and your last moments repeat forever and ever, which is terrifying to imagine :x
Good to see you again! Thank you for another great video!
I don’t remember how I stumbled onto your channel, but I really look forward to the videos. You are so funny!!
Thanks for all the vids Linfamy!
Thanks for watching
Did anyone else notice that his channel mascot looks like an anime version of Mr. Hankey?
Thank you for explaining that one scene from Key the Metal Idol.
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I'm going to share this with all my friends xd
Hell yeah ;)
Very interesting. I found some of the bits remarkably like the kinds of chaplain-y things that spiritual care providers do in palliative care or hospice work with persons of many different beliefs. Whatever the era and whatever the beliefs I think there are basic things about tending to the dying that arise almost universally. Thanks for the knowledge. As always
Only one thing: this ritual of using the colored cords attached to the hands of the Buddha and to the dying person was not created by Pure Land Buddhism and there's no Pure Land School in Japan that teaches that a person must be isolated from the others or just keeping the mind free from attachments to attain birth in the Pure Land. These are beliefs from Shingon and Tendai Buddhism, both Hōnen (from Jōdo Shū) and Shinran (from Jōdo Shinshū) teaches that the Nembutsu of faith is sufficient to attain birth whether your mind is pure or impure, concentrated or distracted, attached or free of attachments. In Jōdo Shū these cords are present but Hōnen teaches that they are not essential and work much as auxiliary to the dying person's faith and confidence, while in Jōdo Shinshū these cords are not even present. The basic teaching of Pure Land Buddhism is that there's no need to fear the afterlife when entrusting oneself to Amida Buddha, there's no way on falling hells or failing to attain birth in the Pure Land while chanting Nembutsu.
That's interesting. Kind of like the protestants belief that if you "just believe in Jesus" you'll go to heaven no matter what.
@@barbieblues7639 it's common to westerners to see some similarities, but can't be resumed to just that brief sort of comparison. Amida Buddha is not a god to fulfill your desires or determine what will happen in your life. He also doesn't brings troubles to testify one's faith, neither he express the urgency for people to do what he wants them to do. Amida Buddha also doesn't condemn, punish or chose the people that should be saved or not. He's infinite compassion make him want to save everyone regards of any distinctions, evil or imperfections, but he can't do this all alone, because of that he teaches people to call his Name (Nembutsu chanting) so his Light can embrace those who entrust in him and bring them to Pure Land. Also Pure Land is not like heaven, it's purpose is not keep in eternal praise and joy but have the best conditions to reach Buddha's enlightenment without obstacles. Once one attain enlightenment there, he/she comes back to this world as a Bodhisattva to help other people to get rid of suffering by the Buddha's wisdom and compassion.
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1:34 🤣 thank you, I needed that 😂😁❤
These kind of practices are still used in Myanmar. But it is more like still doing good deeds even though you are at your death bed. Families donated to monks in front of the dying person. They can imagine themselves in the families place or if they can still move their hands, they can touched the object and directly donate it to the monks. The monks will tell dhamma stories, telling them to let go of everything, reciting sutas as the dying person listened.
After dead, there is also a custom (you have to do it) to do good deeds like donating foods for monks, making lunch for monks and other family members and neighbors. They shared those good deeds benefits with everyone espically the dead one so they may gets more karma points
Cartoon turtle = Mitch McTurdle!🤣
Loved it ♡ From now onwards it's hen-thigh for me.
Has this practice carried onwards to the current days or has it fallen out of practice?
Great content, thanks!
These videos are amazing - and the non sequitur never fails to catch me off guard but still has poignancy. Well done! and more please!
thank you for teaching me japans lore
YUS another upload!
Woohoo first
Interesting subject, thanks :)
Well, I just snort/laughed my Diet Pepsi all over my shirt and the kitten sleeping on my lap!! Cartoon turtle Mitch McConnell!! OMG!!! LOLOL!!!
Success 😈
Love how cologne from ranma 1/2 wove the threads
OMG 😃 the Mitch McConnell joke caught me off guard. I ended up Spitting coffee everywhere. 😁😆😅😂🤣
When you said that dead bodies are super useful, my first thought was "they ate them?!"
I may have a problem.
🎼 I don’t mind the sight of worms 🐛
Or, thoughts of microscopic germs 🦠
But, technicolor pachyderms 🐘
Are really too much for me. 🎶
Cute. Lol
Gosh this made me laugh way too hard. 🤣 thanks for the video 😄
Everyone fears death. On a personal viewpoint I was near death back in 2020 due to compartment syndrome and kidney failure. I had 'dreams '. The afterlife is not what people think it is. It is what you believe it to be. And try to do the right thing.
Lol you didn't come that close, and that doesn't make you any more qualified than anyone else to say what is or isn't the afterlife. So arrogant. I've come extremely close to death and don't have the arrogance to assume my personal experience is somehow anything more than that, but okay.
I really appreciated the Bush Jr reference at 8:30 😂
Instant subscribed
Is that Shampoo’s grandmother weaving?! Love it.
Religious rituals can be so elaborate.
I guess this was their version of confessing your sins and you're forgiven before death that the catholic church does.
Not really, more like the fear of the devil tempting you on your deathbed and going to hell as a result despite a good life or even having received your "last rites", which is a pretty common thing to be talked about in more conservative situations and in the past.
Oh wow, they were indeed serious about not telling normal people! Right when you said "Here's what it says", an ad started xD
Nice first view what a treat.
I feel like this was invented by some guy who wanted his grandma lying on the deathbed to shut up
Friends don’t let friends get thoughts of attachment. 😆
So much knowledge. So many laughs!
LOL, you translated my name from Tsukibara to Moonrose? 🌖🌹I didn't think about you would be able to do that. :D
This explains the Japanese Death Poetry book I found in the poetry section of Barnes and Noble.
Linfamy, can u do an episode about the Story of Princess Hase plz?
My last dying wish will be to go in the past and smack anyone who dislikes this video
I approve.
"Hen-thigh watchers" according to closed captioning, LOL.
This explains why sepuku was a thing... Cool!
This reminds me a whole lot of last rites in Christianity and how a person repenting on their deathbed is supposed to stop them from going to hell. Influence, or parallel evolution?
Influence would be nearly impossible, so...
Convergent, not parallel
2:57 was that shampoo grandma from ranma??
I never knew that I was something like a Zenchishiki.
I'll be damned.
As for the breath, there is a phenomenon called Cheyne-Stokes breathing that might make that chanting sound very odd and irregular.
What is Cheyne-Stokes?
@@Linfamy It is a type of breathing that occurs before death, usually after heart failure.
It is a lot of shallow, slow breaths with long pauses in-between them until you'd mistakenly think the person was dead and then a loud gasp and hyperventilation receding into the same shallow, slow breathing with long pauses...wash, rinse and repeat until death.
Hell of a thing to see.
Oof, sounds haunting
@@Linfamy Interesting, too.
But yeah, pretty God-awful.
Jeez, that reminds me of how my breathing was (shallow and very infrequent, like one inhale every ten to fifteen seconds and same with exhalation) when I tried to commit suicide years ago, before I lost consciousness.
I like how the chapel of impermence is a forerunner of the chapel of rest
hey isnt the 8:45 picture was sasaki kojiro or it just a random samurai
Ok, that Mitch McConell joke, priceless!
If your deathbed was like this, you’d just want to pass away as soon as possible! So tiresome…
I wonder what the original Buddha would say about the overcomplication of his mostly philosophical teachings
Wow....very Buddhist 🙏🙏 we do the same in theravada 😁
thanks for your advice aboout good deeds and good thoughts we should spread good deeds and good thught to the world😁
SUPERSTITIONS AND THE 'BOOGEY-MAN' LOOMED LARGE IN JAPANESE HISTORY, IM AMAZED THEY MADE IT THRU THE 1800'S
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LOL at the Ranma reference.
You mean I can´t take my entire doujinshi manga collection with me to my personal hell?
1:00
So the japanese also engineered Christian style last minute salvation! Fascinating!
Analysed... Loving the puns!
Those rules make the karma game look like quidditch
2:57 witch from Throne of Blood?
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He’s even got The Scarf and is Bald with Tiny Little Eyes
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0:30 gave me a good laugh
Surely worst Karma is recommending a live-action re-make of a great Anime?