If it weren't for Moffat retconning the Time-War, bringing back Galifrey only to barely do anything actually with Galifrey itself whilst making The Doctor single handily the most important figure of the entire universe and enabling Chibnall a window of opportunity to completely change The Doctor's origin with Timeless Child... Russell wouldn't need to essentially reboot the universe again, so we have a Doctor that's once again learning a whole new set of conditions, circumstance brought on via the merge of reality and the supernatural. Y'know all the things that made the reboot interesting and gave it depth... But I'm glad the madlad did it - seeing Ncuti's Doctor describe supernatural elements as a new type of science he's taking in is a breath of fresh air. Other than that - this all occured cause Moffat decided to fix what wasn't broken and cause Chibnall set it on fire afterwards.
Russell's the goat I've full confidence in him concerning his second tenure. This is the man who on day one made it his personal mission to make Doctor Who a living, breathing universe with each character and place having its own purpose as he crafted lore that somehow felt his tenure went on longer than just 4 years spanning even multiple spin-offs in the process which continued to follow previous companions. He also crafted single handily the best human imortalised analogue to The Doctor symbolising his pain of living for so long in Captain Jack Harkness watching as his friends and everything he knew die with time as he'd keep on existing for billions of years until his fixed point ceased. This is without even mentioning the fact he wrote the absolute sci-fi masterpiece that's Children of Earth...
We'll just have to give Russell some time to properly find his footing again, his new era has been very hit and miss so far, The Star Beast was...something, But This Episode was utterly fantastic,
Agreed, I think it's been very mixed so far, but all the episodes so far have had some amazing quality stuff in. Even The Star Beast, which is pretty shit
Not to cast shade at them or anything bc I’m acc subscribed to them myself but I don’t agree with 90% of their takes tbh. They made a video on their 20 worst episodes and I was shocked at how much I disagreed with what they were saying
his speech "Doctor , you're the best man I've ever known" is jsut the best one. Only Capaldi (too many to quote) and Eccleston's "Turn of the Earth" saying challenge that.
Last time I said it was surreal watching you review a new RTD episode. Now it's surreal getting to watch you review a new episode where you don't have to scream every 10 seconds.
19:23 Yes, it was. There was actually a similar scene in "Eve of the Daleks," where the Doctor gets angry with Yaz before apologising and saying that her actions are catching up with her and that she won't let her die because of it. When, at the end of the episode, Yaz asks the Doctor to explain what she meant about her actions catching up with her, the Doctor refuses to explain, claiming that it meant nothing and she didn't remember. The Flux was Division's response to her investigations into them, she didn't want to admit this to her companions, blaming herself for the destruction that it caused. In my opinion, this is why the scene in "Wild Blue Yonder" works, because when the Doctor finally admits this to a companion, he realises that he has opened up to an enemy instead which is why this moment is so painful for him and explains why he breaks down when he realises he's been tricked. There are stories from all eras that I prefer to this and Flux is one of them, it's my personal favourite and consider it a masterpiece but I also enjoyed "Wild Blue Yonder" and think that it is another fantastic addition to the franchise, it's definitely a new favourite of mine and I'm looking forward to seeing what Russell has planned for his new era.
Wanna know a funny thing? The 60th specials, and 14 in general made me retroactively love 10. I've always liked the 10th Doctor but he's never been one of my favorites. But honestly watching the 60th now makes me wanna go back and watch some of 10s best, I genuinely believe the 14th Doctor completes the 10th Doctor due to basically being the same incarnation, just more mature. Anyway yeah Wild Blue Yonder is better than anything the Chibnall era cooked up, I wouldn't say im an apologist for 13's era, but I do like have some stories I love like the Nikola Tesla episode. But yeah no not even that compares to this, or any Doctors best few stories.
19:37 - that's because the Doctor was suppressing how they felt, trying to come across as everything being okay even though deep down the Doctor feels a lot more than they let on, we saw this with 13 too, she would often suppress her true feelings and keep secrets, even from her friends and I like that this characterization is consistent with both 13 and 14 and this scene is very much those feelings coming to the surface.and I think that's fantastic and it shows just how much Russell loves and respect his predecessor's work, which he does! Could've done without the Moffat (though I do agree with you on certain awful parts we saw with the 11th Doctor like him kissing a lesbian without consent and that... disgusting scene where he talks about Clara's skirt being too tight... urgh...) and Chibnall slander but I will say this is a great video and I do agree, this episode is fantastic!
Good review. Have to agree that, even though there have been good stories since RTD1, Wild Blue Yonder felt like we got a fully realised stand-alone story well told from beginning to end for the first time SINCE RTD1. Have to say, first forty minutes of The Giggle were great, and last twenty minutes were very good too, its just that at forty minutes, it takes a massive tonal shift which detracts from it being a stand-alone story. Understandable, i suppose, as it has to set the scene for the new era. Wild Blue Yonder sits happily in the middle of the specials, able to be its own thing. And yes, despite some good stuff, The Star Beast is a bit of a mess.
Dude the way you talk is captivating, the enthusiasm you have for this content draws the viewer right in. I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention :) (I also fully agree with you about this episode, this is my favorite thing to come from DW in so many years)
I know you don't get that many views (no offence), but please keep going. And please review all of the new era to come soon. I'm glad people are noticing you finally
The star beast is a mess from top to bottom, but Wild Blue Yonder is the opposite despite being an episode so chaotic. It takes time to explore and develop the Doctor and Donna.
Truth be told...Doctor Who was always woke lol. Idek why ppl bother complaining about that part of the show when the stories and characters should always be the focus imo
@RichieReviewsTheDoctor yea and even if some of it may be a bit heavy handed it had good intentions and is no where near "shoving it down your throat" an lgbtq, poc, disabled, etc character isn't pandering, it's just another character
rtd's doctor who is at its best when he's infusing elements of horror into it. actually, i think this might just be true for doctor who in general. it's a show (and extended universe) that lends itself remarkably well to insane horror shit
I absolutely love everything about this episode, one of the best of the modern series. I haven't seen a episode this good since World Enough & Time/The Doctor Falls back in Series 10 and that was in 2017! We are so back, I really hope Ncuti's run has great unique episodes like this in the next series.
Richie, where's the doctor who reviews!? We have 3 episodes of the new series AND a Christmas special. I know it takes time, but I'm just impatient, lol 😂
@38:30 - Capaldi made me cry what... 5 times? during his run... the best at it with Eccleston and old Tennant. Matt Smith did a couple times. Jodie never. Tennant's with Wilfred? No , BUT seing Bernard Cribbins back? THAT made me cry!
Look it was the best out of the 3 BY FAR. However it was still kinda ass. I mean let’s be honest doctor who is shit now. Both the Doctor and Donna feel like former shells of themselves. I mean congrats to the BBC for fucking with history.
The only flaw in this episode is the whole mavity thing which actually damages the doctors character...... Other than that this episode pretty fucking awesome
So im curious because you didnt mention heaven sent what your opinion is on it, personally i think like WBY it transcends the media as peices of art so far beyond everything else for what the are and represent, i kind if prefer heaven sent personally it just feels like an ethereal experience not a tv show
Heaven Sent is great, but I think it gets incredibly overrated because the series it's in is so awful. For me, a lot of it gets ruined retroactively by Hell Bent aswell.
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor I'm not sure about it getting overrated due to the season, most would say the season has nothing to do with it and should really be treated as separate, it's like if the other specials detracted from wby but I get the second point, I just choose to forget that episode exists
Series 9 is absolutely awful from start to finish with the only exceptions being the flood two parter and heaven sent, while capaldi is a good actor his doctor is written as a complete moron in most stories and completely terrible in hell bent.
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctorPlus the notion that Time-Lords were now just all the sudden merely victims of the Time-War, not corrupted of their own ambitions with somehow only Rassilon being a singular evil reduces the complex ambiguity of Time-War & Time-Lords to that of a children's pop up book... Which is unforgiveable!
@42:00 DUDE HEaven Sent destroys Wild Blue Yonder... cinematography is incomparable. Heaven Sent, from day one seing it, has been my top Doctor Who episode... WBY isn't touching the kneee of Heaven Sent mate...
First off I wanna say your video was great and Im gonna watch some more. But I do not fully agree with your opinion on that this is better than all of Moffats episodes such as heaven sent which is my favourite dr who episode. Wild blue yonder is good but its not great. There are problems with it such as the monsters. Also the green screen.
What's your problem with the not things? Heaven sent is a great episode for me too but it's retrospectively ruined by Hell Bent too much for me to call it better than this. I agree the greenscreen isn't amazing but it doesn't affect the writing of the story in any way.
@RichieReviewsTheDoctor The not things dont always look great for example when they are chasing the doctor and donna while they are in the car and for all this episode was built up for as a scary episode I was very disappointed. I was expecting a villain as intimidating as the midnight entity but no.
I'm not sure I 100% it's a good episode definitely but I personally found namely the ending quite underwhelming. I think Russel using the "oh the doctor can just see this thing the audience can't cause he's clever" with the eyelashkng growing too quick is just a bit cheap. And I think the CGI is a bit too goofy for me to take the monsters seriously in some bits. The practical effects however are absolutely gorgeous. I think it's a good episode but nowhere near the emotional heights of something like Vincent and the doctor and nowhere near the narrative heights of something like the doctor falls. I really enjoyed this review though i love the enthusiasm for doctor who and I can't wait fir this new era
Wild Blue Yonder = not better than all the Moffatt era... 3-4 capaldi episodes beat it easily, In the Russell Davies era = many beat it as well... Wilde Blue Yonder is a 7.5/10 or so
Honestly during Moffat's era despite the obvious Heaven Sent, I was way more invested in Toby Whithouse, Jamie Mathieson and Sarah Dollard's episodes than literally any of Moffat's - problem with Moffat is when it comes to drama he cannot drop the quips, this is plain to see in not only his tenure of Doctor Who, but also Sherlock, Jekyll and Dracula which he also butchered. I'll take Russell T. Davies when it comes to character investment and dramatic tension anyday over Moffat irrespective of how campy some of his scenes can be. Like seriously when Bill is presumed to be in a state of danger (has been converted into Cyberwoman) during the Cyberman episode The Doctor is in a completely different part of the ship cracking quips concerning time being slower. Stuff like that is what immediately reduces my interest in a lot of Moffat's characters. Height of dramatic tension and Moffat treats it partially like it's a Coupling reunion...
@@zocialix Moffatt indeed is a big kid writing Who during his tenure. He was more reigned in during Russel's era. But the Chibnall cyber woman is another basket of snakes altogether... agreed
@@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914Oh yeah Chibnall wanting a scantily clad Cyberwoman was strange - even Russell was like are you sure about this? Which is a shame cause the episode itself is dark and has emotional moments concerning Ianto and Lisa, but yeah the design doesn't do it jusitce, if Lisa was more disfigured from the conversion and not just made to look more like a sex object then it'd have been a lot better, but yeah Torchwood was a mixed bag cause of Chibnall. He did right with Countryside though, so even Chibnall can have his moments. I'm glad Russel wrote the finale with Children of Earth.
@@zocialix I liked the pansexual ease of Owen, Jack and Gwen in this series. But I hated how they trashed Rhys ' emotional side.... The goat though is Capaldi in Children of Earth is the GOD we all knew he'd be in Who. Can'T fathom how such a man exists and is such a good person IRL. "What a guy!"- Frank N Further
If it weren't for Moffat retconning the Time-War, bringing back Galifrey only to barely do anything actually with Galifrey itself whilst making The Doctor single handily the most important figure of the entire universe and enabling Chibnall a window of opportunity to completely change The Doctor's origin with Timeless Child... Russell wouldn't need to essentially reboot the universe again, so we have a Doctor that's once again learning a whole new set of conditions, circumstance brought on via the merge of reality and the supernatural. Y'know all the things that made the reboot interesting and gave it depth... But I'm glad the madlad did it - seeing Ncuti's Doctor describe supernatural elements as a new type of science he's taking in is a breath of fresh air.
Other than that - this all occured cause Moffat decided to fix what wasn't broken and cause Chibnall set it on fire afterwards.
The most rewatchable thing about this episode is noticing more and more very subtle differences between the not-things and the Doctor Donna each time
Russell's the goat I've full confidence in him concerning his second tenure. This is the man who on day one made it his personal mission to make Doctor Who a living, breathing universe with each character and place having its own purpose as he crafted lore that somehow felt his tenure went on longer than just 4 years spanning even multiple spin-offs in the process which continued to follow previous companions. He also crafted single handily the best human imortalised analogue to The Doctor symbolising his pain of living for so long in Captain Jack Harkness watching as his friends and everything he knew die with time as he'd keep on existing for billions of years until his fixed point ceased. This is without even mentioning the fact he wrote the absolute sci-fi masterpiece that's Children of Earth...
Agreed! And Series 14 was phenomenal. (Ik this comment was from be4 but still)
We'll just have to give Russell some time to properly find his footing again, his new era has been very hit and miss so far, The Star Beast was...something, But This Episode was utterly fantastic,
Agreed, I think it's been very mixed so far, but all the episodes so far have had some amazing quality stuff in. Even The Star Beast, which is pretty shit
I hope the Who Culture watch this video, because the fact that they prefer Star Beast and heavily criticize this episode is wild to me
Not to cast shade at them or anything bc I’m acc subscribed to them myself but I don’t agree with 90% of their takes tbh. They made a video on their 20 worst episodes and I was shocked at how much I disagreed with what they were saying
Wilf has to be my favourite character in Doctor Who.
his speech "Doctor , you're the best man I've ever known" is jsut the best one. Only Capaldi (too many to quote) and Eccleston's "Turn of the Earth" saying challenge that.
Last time I said it was surreal watching you review a new RTD episode. Now it's surreal getting to watch you review a new episode where you don't have to scream every 10 seconds.
Weirdest video to make in years man ahaha
19:23 Yes, it was. There was actually a similar scene in "Eve of the Daleks," where the Doctor gets angry with Yaz before apologising and saying that her actions are catching up with her and that she won't let her die because of it. When, at the end of the episode, Yaz asks the Doctor to explain what she meant about her actions catching up with her, the Doctor refuses to explain, claiming that it meant nothing and she didn't remember. The Flux was Division's response to her investigations into them, she didn't want to admit this to her companions, blaming herself for the destruction that it caused. In my opinion, this is why the scene in "Wild Blue Yonder" works, because when the Doctor finally admits this to a companion, he realises that he has opened up to an enemy instead which is why this moment is so painful for him and explains why he breaks down when he realises he's been tricked. There are stories from all eras that I prefer to this and Flux is one of them, it's my personal favourite and consider it a masterpiece but I also enjoyed "Wild Blue Yonder" and think that it is another fantastic addition to the franchise, it's definitely a new favourite of mine and I'm looking forward to seeing what Russell has planned for his new era.
Wild Blue Yonder was amazing
I love that Russell’s leaning into the cosmic horror elements of Doctor Who
The explained and sometimes unexplainable
COSMIC HORROR IS THE SHIT
Wanna know a funny thing? The 60th specials, and 14 in general made me retroactively love 10. I've always liked the 10th Doctor but he's never been one of my favorites. But honestly watching the 60th now makes me wanna go back and watch some of 10s best, I genuinely believe the 14th Doctor completes the 10th Doctor due to basically being the same incarnation, just more mature.
Anyway yeah Wild Blue Yonder is better than anything the Chibnall era cooked up, I wouldn't say im an apologist for 13's era, but I do like have some stories I love like the Nikola Tesla episode. But yeah no not even that compares to this, or any Doctors best few stories.
19:37 - that's because the Doctor was suppressing how they felt, trying to come across as everything being okay even though deep down the Doctor feels a lot more than they let on, we saw this with 13 too, she would often suppress her true feelings and keep secrets, even from her friends and I like that this characterization is consistent with both 13 and 14 and this scene is very much those feelings coming to the surface.and I think that's fantastic and it shows just how much Russell loves and respect his predecessor's work, which he does! Could've done without the Moffat (though I do agree with you on certain awful parts we saw with the 11th Doctor like him kissing a lesbian without consent and that... disgusting scene where he talks about Clara's skirt being too tight... urgh...) and Chibnall slander but I will say this is a great video and I do agree, this episode is fantastic!
I really liked this ep so I'm actually glad this isn't really ironic.
Good review.
Have to agree that, even though there have been good stories since RTD1, Wild Blue Yonder felt like we got a fully realised stand-alone story well told from beginning to end for the first time SINCE RTD1.
Have to say, first forty minutes of The Giggle were great, and last twenty minutes were very good too, its just that at forty minutes, it takes a massive tonal shift which detracts from it being a stand-alone story. Understandable, i suppose, as it has to set the scene for the new era. Wild Blue Yonder sits happily in the middle of the specials, able to be its own thing.
And yes, despite some good stuff, The Star Beast is a bit of a mess.
Dude the way you talk is captivating, the enthusiasm you have for this content draws the viewer right in. I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention :)
(I also fully agree with you about this episode, this is my favorite thing to come from DW in so many years)
Thank you so much. I do really appreciate that I'm not used to making content in this light at all :)
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor Hopefully in the upcoming seasons you'll have more opportunities lol
@@phlippy by the looks of the trailer i do ahaha
I know you don't get that many views (no offence), but please keep going. And please review all of the new era to come soon. I'm glad people are noticing you finally
Thank you so much, but don't worry, I'm not going anywhere :) I just don't have a lot of time to make videos anymore
The star beast is a mess from top to bottom, but Wild Blue Yonder is the opposite despite being an episode so chaotic. It takes time to explore and develop the Doctor and Donna.
I actually liked the star beast it was good I think
@@unhelpfulcomplaint4434 Well, yes, it's good but not entirely. There are some details neglected in favor of highlighting the "social message".
@@DoctorMysterio15 yeah I agree with that
Your favorite story is the End of Time? I must say, that’s a take I’ve never heard before
I'm honestly so glad to see some positivity about the state of dw too many people saying it's dead and gone """woke"""
Truth be told...Doctor Who was always woke lol. Idek why ppl bother complaining about that part of the show when the stories and characters should always be the focus imo
@RichieReviewsTheDoctor yea and even if some of it may be a bit heavy handed it had good intentions and is no where near "shoving it down your throat" an lgbtq, poc, disabled, etc character isn't pandering, it's just another character
I really hope mavity becomes some big plot thing in season1 similar to bad wolf in season... 1... this is gonna get confusing real fast...
It's always the black sheep of series that are the best!
rtd's doctor who is at its best when he's infusing elements of horror into it. actually, i think this might just be true for doctor who in general. it's a show (and extended universe) that lends itself remarkably well to insane horror shit
FINALY
i have heard so many people talk shit about this episode and FINALY someone is saying what i was thinking
I absolutely love everything about this episode, one of the best of the modern series. I haven't seen a episode this good since World Enough & Time/The Doctor Falls back in Series 10 and that was in 2017! We are so back, I really hope Ncuti's run has great unique episodes like this in the next series.
This was definitely my favorite out of the specials. I wasnt a huge fan of the star beast or the giggle. I just think they're ok.
37:41 reconciliatory
Richie, where's the doctor who reviews!? We have 3 episodes of the new series AND a Christmas special. I know it takes time, but I'm just impatient, lol 😂
I have to work to make money yk😂, I don't make enough money off this to justify doing it more I'm afraid 😭
ngl shocked to see this
I think RTD based the antagonists on how generative AI works
I never thought of it that way but thats interesting
What’s ur opinion on Moffat returning and also the new trailer that just came out?
I'm excited to see his new material because he'll be under RTDs supervision. I thought the trailer was alright
god knows when this video will be out : 3 months later
Glazing the episode a bit
Dr who fans try to praise the show without saying chibnall bad challenge (difficulty level: impossible)
It can't be done, it's too hard
looking forward to see what you though of the giggle
I've seen the Giggle twice already and still don't know what to make of it so the review will definitely be something lol
@38:30 - Capaldi made me cry what... 5 times? during his run... the best at it with Eccleston and old Tennant.
Matt Smith did a couple times.
Jodie never. Tennant's with Wilfred? No , BUT seing Bernard Cribbins back? THAT made me cry!
Look it was the best out of the 3 BY FAR. However it was still kinda ass. I mean let’s be honest doctor who is shit now. Both the Doctor and Donna feel like former shells of themselves. I mean congrats to the BBC for fucking with history.
The only flaw in this episode is the whole mavity thing which actually damages the doctors character...... Other than that this episode pretty fucking awesome
So im curious because you didnt mention heaven sent what your opinion is on it, personally i think like WBY it transcends the media as peices of art so far beyond everything else for what the are and represent, i kind if prefer heaven sent personally it just feels like an ethereal experience not a tv show
Heaven Sent is great, but I think it gets incredibly overrated because the series it's in is so awful. For me, a lot of it gets ruined retroactively by Hell Bent aswell.
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctor I'm not sure about it getting overrated due to the season, most would say the season has nothing to do with it and should really be treated as separate, it's like if the other specials detracted from wby but I get the second point, I just choose to forget that episode exists
I couldn't care less about high ratings on any site or platform, but if that's the case, it's concerning
Series 9 is absolutely awful from start to finish with the only exceptions being the flood two parter and heaven sent, while capaldi is a good actor his doctor is written as a complete moron in most stories and completely terrible in hell bent.
@@RichieReviewsTheDoctorPlus the notion that Time-Lords were now just all the sudden merely victims of the Time-War, not corrupted of their own ambitions with somehow only Rassilon being a singular evil reduces the complex ambiguity of Time-War & Time-Lords to that of a children's pop up book... Which is unforgiveable!
@42:00 DUDE HEaven Sent destroys Wild Blue Yonder... cinematography is incomparable. Heaven Sent, from day one seing it, has been my top Doctor Who episode... WBY isn't touching the kneee of Heaven Sent mate...
First off I wanna say your video was great and Im gonna watch some more. But I do not fully agree with your opinion on that this is better than all of Moffats episodes such as heaven sent which is my favourite dr who episode. Wild blue yonder is good but its not great. There are problems with it such as the monsters. Also the green screen.
What's your problem with the not things? Heaven sent is a great episode for me too but it's retrospectively ruined by Hell Bent too much for me to call it better than this. I agree the greenscreen isn't amazing but it doesn't affect the writing of the story in any way.
@RichieReviewsTheDoctor The not things dont always look great for example when they are chasing the doctor and donna while they are in the car and for all this episode was built up for as a scary episode I was very disappointed. I was expecting a villain as intimidating as the midnight entity but no.
I'm not sure I 100% it's a good episode definitely but I personally found namely the ending quite underwhelming. I think Russel using the "oh the doctor can just see this thing the audience can't cause he's clever" with the eyelashkng growing too quick is just a bit cheap. And I think the CGI is a bit too goofy for me to take the monsters seriously in some bits. The practical effects however are absolutely gorgeous. I think it's a good episode but nowhere near the emotional heights of something like Vincent and the doctor and nowhere near the narrative heights of something like the doctor falls. I really enjoyed this review though i love the enthusiasm for doctor who and I can't wait fir this new era
Great video, really.
But Heaven Sent is still 100x better than Wild Blue Yonder.
Nuh uh
The glazing in the begging was crazy
38:05 apparently sexist 💀
Wild Blue Yonder = not better than all the Moffatt era... 3-4 capaldi episodes beat it easily,
In the Russell Davies era = many beat it as well...
Wilde Blue Yonder is a 7.5/10 or so
Honestly during Moffat's era despite the obvious Heaven Sent, I was way more invested in Toby Whithouse, Jamie Mathieson and Sarah Dollard's episodes than literally any of Moffat's - problem with Moffat is when it comes to drama he cannot drop the quips, this is plain to see in not only his tenure of Doctor Who, but also Sherlock, Jekyll and Dracula which he also butchered. I'll take Russell T. Davies when it comes to character investment and dramatic tension anyday over Moffat irrespective of how campy some of his scenes can be. Like seriously when Bill is presumed to be in a state of danger (has been converted into Cyberwoman) during the Cyberman episode The Doctor is in a completely different part of the ship cracking quips concerning time being slower. Stuff like that is what immediately reduces my interest in a lot of Moffat's characters. Height of dramatic tension and Moffat treats it partially like it's a Coupling reunion...
@@zocialix totally agree on Toby Withouse being one of the reasons why good scripts were present in the late Moffat era, agreed on this for sure !!!
@@zocialix Moffatt indeed is a big kid writing Who during his tenure. He was more reigned in during Russel's era. But the Chibnall cyber woman is another basket of snakes altogether... agreed
@@througtonsheirs_doctorwhol5914Oh yeah Chibnall wanting a scantily clad Cyberwoman was strange - even Russell was like are you sure about this? Which is a shame cause the episode itself is dark and has emotional moments concerning Ianto and Lisa, but yeah the design doesn't do it jusitce, if Lisa was more disfigured from the conversion and not just made to look more like a sex object then it'd have been a lot better, but yeah Torchwood was a mixed bag cause of Chibnall. He did right with Countryside though, so even Chibnall can have his moments. I'm glad Russel wrote the finale with Children of Earth.
@@zocialix I liked the pansexual ease of Owen, Jack and Gwen in this series. But I hated how they trashed Rhys ' emotional side.... The goat though is Capaldi in Children of Earth is the GOD we all knew he'd be in Who. Can'T fathom how such a man exists and is such a good person IRL. "What a guy!"- Frank N Further
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Hilariously wrong but funny video