Nikola hydrogen FCEV and BEV semi-truck Ride & Drives
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- Last week Nikola invited us to test drive their hydrogen fuel cell electric and battery-electric semi-trucks at M1 Concourse. We also ran into Rich from Rich Rebuilds and Jon McElroy from Autoline there!
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Christian and Jason are few of the many folks who put in a lot of hard work since the inception of this company and they stuck to the company pulling through so many hardships. Kudos these guys!
Believing in the product despite a psychopathic CEO and making it to the other side is admirable. I'm glad Milton will live forever in disgrace. He and his posterity will also never work again, but disgraced....
JT, just what makes your opinion important.?
"It's great to be old." Sandy never lets us down with his commentary. :D
its good to be the KING - Mel Brooks.
BOSCH POWERTRAIN EXPERTS !
@@matthiasgrunwald895 - BOSCH is a NAZI organization.
Bosch , cant even make the Plaid drivetrain.
I think it was a strange move not to start a new company or at least change name after the fiasco of a start they had. But it's great to se that they have a real product now!! Best of luck to them. It's not easy to build a good truck!! 😊
Sandy & Rich. What a team.
Awesome presentation on NkLA truck sandy. Look like every one having fun enjoying the track and drive. NkLA changing truck industry. Either you lead or fall behind. I see diesel truck as blockbuster and Nikola truck is the new Netflix . 👍
Fun fact, Nikola is packed with former Bosch employees, Bosch was the masterminds behind Dieselgate.
So you focus entirely on one fact about Bosch? How about how they are also arguably one of the most powerful supplier brands on planet earth?
Fun Fact Harry, USA employed all the nazi mad scientists they could and the father other the first president Bush bankrolled Hitler's nazi movement. Bosch sounds suspiciously German indeed. I bet those Bosch engineers are going to kill the planet some way or another LMAO.
They are the ones that developed and designed and integrated the Hydrogen Fuel Cell for this project - spent a great afternoon interviewing the team a few years ago
Oh, now I know why there is heavy collaboration by two
Yeah Lots of faces of company who wont even know if they are deceiving people, They will be more careful this time but that isn't as confidence inspiring as investors would hope 🥸
Congrats 🎉 Can’t wait to see them on the road.
10:20 charred HV connectors look 👀
Yeah that’s concerning. Maybe just residue from a sealant? I hope so. But why didn’t they clean off from the top cover too?! Strange and sus
Yowza
Yup, they're overheated and charred. Just think, that this is their "show" and demo vehicle! How do regular production vehicles hold up? Maybe that's why they have they have over 231 BEVs gathering dust at Nikola and "Dealers"
@@shazam6274 how do they have 231 gathering dust? Source?
@@Houndzee from Nikola's 2nd Quarter report "Nikola had 139 BETs in inventory at company facilities at the end of the second quarter of 2023, while dealers had 92 BETs on forecourts at the same point, it said Aug. 4." i.e. 139 +92 = 231 As reported here: "Transport Topics" aka ttnews... Aug 7, 2023 article.
The first law of thermodynamics means this is a non starter. Generating green H2 is always very energy intensive, then you need to pressurise it, and transport it. Moving electricity in wires and storage in batteries is way more energy effective. Still fuel companies love this concept it gives them a product to sell
Batteries to heavy for trucks. Too less range. Electric for cars yes but for long haule only hydrogen.
@@deluexemusic9172 you are like 6+ years out of date - I interviewed the team designing the truck + Bosh (Fuel cell) + Iveco (cab) and I got passed one to another to interview them talking about how heavy the full cells setup was vs battery and they were finding it very hard to stay within USA trucks weight laws because the fuel cells setup was much much heavier than battery-powered truck - hence why the BE truck come out first
lots of greenwashing for power utility companies they know it doesn't make much sense but funding was there and makes them look good.
@@QALibrary agree, i like how someone commented above how batteries are heavy… Fuel cells are heavy, expensive, require Hydrogen storage and will probably still need batteries as an intermediary as the fuel cell will likely not make electricity at a high enough rate for acceleration under load. At the end of the day they are electric trucks.
@@QALibrary sources please.
I hope Trevor Milton gets the jail time he deserves and I wish the best for Nikola as the company.
To Trevor "Fraud-Meltdown" Milton : DON'T drop the soap🧼 in prison shower!! 😬😬😬😅
Milton is a billionaire, I'll be suprised if he sees a prison cell.
Maybe a country club prison ..😏
Trevor is a wise man .. won’t be surprised to see him back .. he is still one of the top shareholders ..
@@michaelsmithers4900maybe but I doubt he even gets that. Supposedly we will see next month but I think people hoping he gets the electric chair are gonna be sadly disappointed 😅
16:50 legend cameo here. I love it. I don't anticipate ever driving a semi but seeing the fleet electrified FCEV or BEV is exciting and the quality of life improvements for truck drivers are a big deal. It's a hard job with long hours and making it more pleasant makes a difference to a lot of lives.
Sandy, there are already two different CDL licenses for Class A drivers. There is a “Unrestricted” license for drivers that took their road test with a manual transmission and a “Restricted” license for drivers that took the road test in a semi with an automatic transmission.
10:20 what happened to the HV connectors right there 😅
⚡️⚡️😵💫😵💫
I am no expert, my guess would be the grease from the trailer connector.
It's not the orange connector. Something fell on top.
@@MrSegmentfault negative
Rebuilding their reputation is going to be an uphill struggle.
Wonder if its gonna roll downhill from here
@@namelastname4077old joke . Grow up
@@bossusa365 yeah, they should stop "badgering" them
Ok Yesla junkie society 🗑🗑 trolls 😂
even bigger NIKOLA cannot scale , because they Dont build the TRUCK.
Cool video. Question, how do they generate the hydrogen ?
Agree, and how much hydrogen will they have available?
In Europe they have built hydrogen filling stations with non hydrogen……they only got money to build them….
@@JohnBBuck That's great because CO2 is plant food and there's a food crisis.
government $$ baby lol
this will be main limiting factor and it is very
Unless you have a magnificent much better alternative, you better STFU !!
with FOSSIL FUELS, uses more energy , than H2 can output.
It's good to have an experienced and capable engineer to separate noteworthy products from the sea of constantly new inventions.
I don't know is it something good or not
but I can see that Sandy talk about it
and that already means a lot!!!
But he is a bit gullible from
Companies that are out of business already
@@myvizn8387 I don't quite understand what you were trying to say, but my point is that for a layman like me, every bit of his advice is really valuable. And not only because of professional knowledge, but also because of the way of thinking and setting priorities. I also noticed in him a lot of the principles that also guided me as well. Stay well, regards.
You just don't know enough to realize how little value there is in what Sandy is saying. He didn't even look at any of the powertrain and chassis - he just let the sales rep talk and rode around in the cab.
@@brianb-p6586 Simplicity is art of education. Ability to control/stop yourself to talk and let other talk is equally important as knowledge and refers to quality of character. Truth comes to light when You look at his work background and then look at Yours/or mine. This is my observation and my accepted truth. And I agree that You can have Yours as well.
It's all downhill from here for Nikola.
The potential this company has will have them rolling all the way to the bottom of the hill
@@user-number-the-onefunny joke
@@user-number-the-one Can you elaborate? Where are your data from?
When will you step into a Tesla Semi, and have a 499 milles test drive to compare this experience with?
WOW! AMAZING!
26:08 so true!!!! Developed, built, tested and driven class 7 BEV trucks, they are butter smooth. Truck drivers would be so happy to shift over!
NIKOLA Fool Cells are Litteral H2 bombs on wheels.
@@markplott4820 And electric vehicles are mobile incinerators.
- @@leyatan0123 - Statistically, any BEV is way SAFER than anything else.
FCEV are just Rolling HYDROGEN bombs.
@@markplott4820 , you really don't know what a hydrogen bomb is, do you? There is no possibility of hydrogen fusion of a tank of hydrogen gas. Yes, it could burn, or even burn rapidly, but that's not a "Litteral H2 bomb", or even a "literal H2 bomb".
Love the cab over design... so much shorter but still good room inside.
Truck seems very well done for a prototype...
There are already two types of licence.. One for automatics, the other for manual.
One thing about the manual.. though. It FORCES you to stay aware of what is going on.. your speed, and conditions etc. Keeps your situational awareness very high.. it all becomes second nature quickly.. you don't think about shifting.. You just do it. But you are still connected to what is going on.
It´s a standard "IVECO Stralis" cab from Europe. Italy to be precise.
@@TFB-chris
Interesting so they used an existing truck cab. That would definitely help them proceed more quickly. All they need do is integrate the electric powertrain and any other mechanicals related to it. And provide the instrumentation in the cab that would be required. Not saying that that's a small task. But at least it eliminates them having to deal with the basic structural stuff.
The only thing I noticed in the test drive was that only the front axle is powered and I think they mentioned that it's direct drive. That could pose a problem in certain places. I often found it necessary to engage the differential lock. That engages the rear axle also. Occasionally you'll run into a dock or a roadway that is at a steep angle. And as the truck turns weight will come off one of the wheels. Unless you can lock that rear axle in you'll end up spinning one of the drive tires. Probably could mitigate this with either limited slip differential in the drive axle. Or perhaps they have two separate drive motors one for each wheel providing traction control.
they used most of the existing truck.@@kens97sto171
@@kens97sto171 Not just the cab but most of the truck. Nikola doesn't have any experience in truck design so they collabed with Iveco to design a truck around their technology. It's essentially an European Iveco S-Way with Nikola's battery pack. Electric motors were co-developed with Iveco as well.
@@sic22l
Well that explains why it's so complete smooth and well made.
Honestly I think Tesla bought to think about doing this too. The variety of different types of trucks in the United States is rather extensive. I often think that Tesla along with making their own truck, should offer the powertrain and integrated technologies to existing truck manufacturers. Let Kenworth have Tesla electric drive as one of the power plant options on their trucks. That's how it works currently. You can buy a Peterbilt or a Kenworth with a Cummins or a Mercedes or other engine choices. Along with a variety of transmissions, rear axle ratios. And all sorts of different options.
Be a lot less complex for Tesla simply to make powertrain and battery packs and let the truck manufacturers that already know how to build a truck well to integrate that into their existing vehicles.
Super!! Thanks for another great video Sandy!!
You are so welcome!
never saw a truck driver so elegant..... Munro should start a fashion style company only for truck... with tie...
Look up "Eddie Stobart" in the UK. Since the 1970s they've had their drivers in smart fashion ... including ties!
Who is the customer for the new (100) BEV Order in NJ?
Sandy had a nice day out and didn’t want to upset his hosts with some challenging questions. Nikola has a battery truck as well as the fuel cell truck. With batteries improving at a significant rate, it will be interesting to see how long fuel cell trucks continue to make a business case.
Hydrogen trucks are already dead. But if they weren't, Nikola wouldn't be around long enough to find out
For a novice, can someone explain. In Germany, we have a lot of windmills and everybody constantly talks about the fact that we cannot store that energy when there's excess. Wouldn't it make sense to turn that energy into hydrogen even if there is a lot of efficiency loss? I say that having listened to Elon Musk saying many times that hydrogen just doesn't make sense from an efficiency point of view. But I do wonder, wouldn't it make sense to turn wind and solar into hydrogen anyway?
Such a beautiful technological advancement in that industry, can’t believe some old diesel heads aren’t accepting the concept and brining in the young generations in
Sandy, you keep remembering those trucks you drove back in the 1920s. Shake, rattle and roll. I started driving in 1973. In 1977 semi. I drove KW, International, Peterbuilt, White and others. Thet were comfortable to drive. 13 sp Roadranger was tough on the left knee when shifting. Then I started using RPMs to shift. I was away from home days and weeks and sometimes months. Very bad on marriage and family. That is the main reason I find why you g men do not want to hit the road. Anyhow, what is next is going to be an electric flying transport system to haul freight and people. Mark pppmy words on August 10, 2023 at 4:10 PM. Great interview and Thanks!
Driving trucks in the 1920s?
Sandy was born in 1949.
The Nikola is largely based on the European Iveco trucks, except for the drivetrain. In Europe Iveco is more known as a budget truck, not a refined premium at all. Maybe Nikola refined it, or the the scale is different in the USA.
SCANIA is the Ultimate in OVL heavy hauler Trucking, but its BEV is Crappy.
Actually even the whole production powertrain has been developed by the joint venture Iveco/Nikola, now fully owned by Iveco and is produced in the new Iveco/FPT e-power plant here in Italy (Torino), including the batteries. The European trucks will be assembled in Ulm. Iveco has been licensed to produce everything and Nikola in exchange can use the Iveco S-way platform to produce their trucks in the USA. Considering how bad the financial situation is for Nikola, who knows what will happen...
Is Nicola still alive??
Im kind of shocked!
👍🇳🇴
Nikola bankrupt before xmas 2023 😎
@@mikafiltenborg7572 They just sold 100s of trucks, wtf are you talking about?
You should really stop "Badgering" them...hehe
@@HydrogenFuelTechnologies they did not sell yet but are discussing it. If it goes through then they also need fueling infrastructure lots of places they could fail to deliver which is all the company is known for thus far.
@@HydrogenFuelTechnologies, do some research mate, they have even said several times to their shareholders they may not be around much longer several times...they are hemoraging money!
Something looks a bit melty at 10:23...
Love the trucks and technology! Thanks Sandy ! And thank you Nikola !!! Let’s go Nikola !!!
It's a battery electric truck with a hydrogen fuel cell. Swap out the fuel cell for a bigger battery and it's a better truck instantly. It will handle exactly the same, because it already is a battery electric truck. You don't lose any performance, torque, or driving characteristics. But you can charge it anywhere with a wall socket and getting more megawatt fast chargers in place will happen a lot sooner than getting hydrogen fueling infrastructure in place.
Also, the person from Nikola mentioned this is the only truck with 500 mile range. I think Tesla has a few of those on the roads as well so that's simply a lie. They were pretty vocal about that when they launched those earlier this year. Semi 8, 80 tonnes, and all the rest. This is not apples and oranges. They are both battery electric trucks. The only difference is the size of the battery. Volvo has battery electrical trucks on the road as well in the same class. A bit less range but that should be fixable. Just add a bit more battery.
Good on Nikola that they sold a few trucks though. But they now need to prove operational cost is going to be competitive with just pure battery electric. That's an uphill battle. This video makes a great point that battery elecric trucks (with or without fuel cells) are the future. But the jury is very much out on whether you charge the battery with a fuel cell or just a cable. The only difference is going to be the size of the battery and the cost of the fuel vs. the electricity. Or the sustainability of the whole thing. The hydrogen going into these things is unlikely to be the expensive and elusive green variety for quite some time. We're talking good old methane converted into hydrogen here. And lots of it. Not sustainable at all. Wasteful even. You're better off just using the methane directly as a fuel. Much less emissions that way.
With companies like this you need to watch what they are careful to not talk about: where does the hydrogen come from? What does it cost per mile? Who is going to build the infrastructure? They are being very hand wavy on this. They'll drive a truck out with hydrogen to fuel trucks. It's going to be great. So would that be hydrogen cooled to a 20 degrees kelivin in liquid form that is "only" 2.5 times more voluminous than lng? Or would that be compressed gas instead which is more like 18 times more voluminous. Never mind comparing this to diesel fuel trucks, There are a few issue lurking there. And Sandy is very well aware of those and yet chooses to not talk about them.
Ehhh, Nikola has that truck on the market right now.
The BEV truck got 9 battery packs. The FCEV got two.
one EXCEPTION , none of them use TRI motor or Quad motor Drivetrains w/ less then 2.8kwh/mile , not very Efficient.
some only can Carry only 30k Gross , class 5 & 6 .
Doesn't a bigger lithium ion battery mean adding tons in weight, which in turn reduces the amount of cargo that can safely and legally be carried?
@@awesometwitchy Much less than you seem to think. Also hydrogen infrastructure weighs a lot. So the net weight increase isn't that large. Certainly not relative to the overall weight of the truck. Electrical trucks in every weight class are already on the road. They actually have electrical road trains in Australia that are far larger than is allowed on the roads elsewhere. These are converted Ice trucks where the batteries slot in where the fuel used to go. They can actually swap these in a couple of minutes with a fork lift truck. Range is something like > 300 miles. These can go up to 200+ tonnes.
Electrical trucks work in any weight class. No exceptions. There is no special class of truck where only hydrogen can do the job. Even range is not a limiting factor. You can always use more battery. A few tonnes goes a long way. It just adds cost.
As for legal and safe constraints; those are two things. The legal ones are based on the inherently poor performance of ICE trucks. They really struggle at low speeds; or uphill. Or downhill. Electrical trucks are superior in circumstances where Ice trucks become unsafe. More torque at any speed, regenerative breaking in mountains instead of overheating brakes, no need for gazillions of gears, etc.
...Great video, Nikola 4 Life...
With constant drive-by shootings, Detroit might not be the best place to put a giant hydrogen tank on the side of the road.
Part of the testing of the tanks included them being shot with high caliber rifles...and thats no shit.
Crazy Micheal Lohscheller. I hope show the Nikola truck new videos more. Come back Trevor Milton. Please Steve Girsky.
At 10:20
That Power Connector isn't exactly Inspiring. Potential Fire Hazard?
Makes me wonder what other issues there are to resolve that may not be so apparent! 🤔
Mike in San Diego. 🌞🎸🚀🖖
I'm sure the truck drivers will now rejoice in being badly paid, under constant stress and being badly treated every day, because now they have an electric drive. Huzzaah!
Uncle Rich!
Pepsi ordered 100 Tesla Semi trucks 2 years ago.
My first ever 👎on Munroe.
why exactly?
More importantly they were delivered in 2022 and 2023.
@@patgee81 Sandy blatantly lied, saying that he has never heard of a purchase of 100 trucks before. Munro actively promotes everything Tesla, and the PepsiCo purchase of Tesla Semis is just one example of this size of purchase that Sandy must be aware of.
Now I know why Corey quit
Elaborate?
That's what I thought. Giving hydrogen and Nikola that much air time is very suspicious. As an engineer Sandy knows exactly that there's no future here. So you have to ask yourself...
Exactly... Sandy sold itself again kike with the saudi sponsors... he is old he needs money to retire i guess
Wait Corey quit???
Elaborate!!!!
Nice surprise segment with TH-camr RichRebuilds since he wasn't mentioned in the title.
With all the Nicola hydrogen truck fires what is Sandy's current opinion of their hydrogen trucks.
There have been no Nikola Tre FCEV fires. All the tucks that caught fire were Nikola TRE BEVs and they used a different brand battery to the FCEVs.
Is the Electric version a single rear drive or tandem powered ?
It has a single rear drive axle, also known as a 6X2 since it has tag axle.
The Nikola version in the USA has dual tires on the tag axle, making it look like it is driven unless you look closely; the IVECO version in Europe has single tires on the tag axle, making the 6X2 configuration more apparently. 6X2 with singles on the tag axle are common in Europe, but very rare here except on large buses.
Yes, all that power is to one axle. Search online for FPTindustrial and their eDriveline, model "eAX 840-R", to see the electrically powered axle provided by IVECO's FPT division. The Tre BEV apparently isn't using the full peak power of this unit, presumably due to battery limitations.
Whats up with the burnt wires?
@kfrdubber That happened when Sandy put his foot down "She canny take it captain" lol
Thank you.
Should we be buying NKLA ?
I guess it would be a smart move 😀
Read this first: "Transport Topics" aka ttnews... Aug 7, 2023 article.
Looks like a rebadged Iveco.
Are Iveco providing the chassis for these?
Yes, the cab and complete chassis - even the electric motor equipped drive axle - are all IVECO. It's their S-way model, but with an IVECO eAxle.
The race is on . I was under the belief that nikola was death for good . But it looks like they may just pull out of it . Good luck guys because your opponent tesla is also in the race .
Great video 👍👍
Thank you 👍
What is the 100 truck deal?
Sorry Sandy but one thing is driving around a one mile track and another thing is making H2 fuel cells trucks work in the real world. They just don't make any sense commercially and environmentally, as anything that deals with fuel cells in transportation. The bev truck is no surprise that has his place in the market, and I liked that they stated battery capacity and continuous power. Has this visit at Nikola any connection with Cory leaving?
In before the bot farm to say Rich is gettin jacked! Great update on Nikola.
Well, at 10min 20 sec, what do you guys think we see over here, is it just dirt or the proof of how hot the Nikola Tre really is?
I guess i will keep my stocks for a little bit longer
In future people will name their companies as "Sandy" or "Munro".
Did we just get a scoop that hasn't been announced yet? 100 truck order? I think we did.
We sure did 👀
Actually, after watching again, two truck orders. 100 from Alta (don't know if BEV or FCEV) and a 100 BEV truck order from unnamed company in New Jersey. Time to load up folks before the news it's the press.
I'm gonna assume NFI out of New Jersey. 🤔
@@jamescoleman9616 They're one in the same. Alta is a dealer, they receive purchase orders from the end customer. So the customer in NJ that is purchasing them is buying them through Alta, one of Nikola's dealers. So there's only 100 trucks in total being purchased here
If that's the case, still a big deal. I'll take it@@natemeininger
Sandy, John McElroy and Uncle Rich in one video??!! 🤯😀
The "rolled a truck down a hill" comments were valid, and calling bull on the Nikola scam is what forced them to completely change their approach and to buy IVECO gliders with IVECO eAxles. If they had continued to do what Sandy was endorsing, they never would have produced a vehicle.
Nikola is a big up and comer. They had a ruff start worse than almost anyone. The fact that they are still a competitor says everything. Nikola and Lucid are going to the moon!
lmao
@@kuznacbendelejev6924I guess the truth is hilarious. You plan on being a smoker from water world your whole life? 😂
Bro you picked seemingly the two most likely companies in the entire world to go bankrupt and said theyre going to the moon. I seriously want to caution you if youre investing your money in these companies to reconsider. Will they ever make money instead of burning billions? I strongly doubt it. If you look at Teslas struggle to profitability and how Elon described the brutal difficult of it, you shouldnt have much confidence in these players
@@jameswright6998 you mean the negative 500% margin truth? Falling production, falling deliveries?
1/10 of their statements from few years ago? bassically fraud?@@jameswright6998
2 problems they didn't address... How much does the truck cost? Plus the biggest elephant in the room... How much will the cost of hydrogen be...?
Why do they still have the old rear view mirrors ? The drag on these monsters must be huge .
In Europe we already have the tiny camera mirrors
Nikola ❤ is Game Changer 🎉🎉
Go hydrogen if you want to waste 66 % energy 😊
Nikola bankrupt before xmas 2023
The first semi-truck a available in the USA that has zero emissions ND a range of 500 miles was the Tesla Semi.
He said available for purchase
yeah .. as your lord elon said semi came out in 2017 .. 5 years before the tre ..
nice 2 see a re-visit 2 Nikola! sounds like there ready 2 hit the road!! good luck every1 !! I'm still day dreaming about those rear view cameras, with overhead displays!
Nikola's 10Q filing a few days ago: "The result of the Company’s ASC 205-40 analysis, due to uncertainties discussed above, is that there is substantial doubt about the Company’s ability to continue as a going concern through the next twelve months"
On August 3rd shareholders approved an increase of common stock which will greatly improve Nikola's access to capital. 800 million shares have been authorized.
LOL. Short seller alert. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A bunch of their trucks burned down and the rest had to be recalled. This company was started to defraud investors, not sure why Sandy keeps promoting them so hard.
@@martins7385 three trucks caught fire because of a coolant leak by the battery. Is a fairly new technology so every EV brand has had issues with fires so don't single out Nikola. You don't have to show how clearly against them you are because your argument turns to nothing. The rest were recalled to avoid the issue
Get the facts right.
@@thingshappen9199 I'll do whatever I want, thanks. Where are the hydrogen fuel cell trucks and all the infrastructure that Trevor promised? Nikola was a fraud from the beginning and Trevor will soon be behind bars. And btw, this wasn't his first scam. Their stock price has been hovering just above 0 for a while now, so the short sellers already closed their positions. Why is Munro promoting Nikola so much but they don't mention the fire and recall? The fire happened in June but no mention of it here. Was Nikola keeping it a secret / lying by omission? I'm all for electric vehicles but pardon me for not taking this particular company seriously.
Long Live Nikola ❤️
0:46 It looks like the European truck Iveco S Way
That's because they made it. Nikola buys them, ships them to their facilities, adds the electric powertrain and puts on their logo.
Yes,@@shazam6274 , and even the electric drive axle is supplied by IVECO.
You’re thoughts on the trucker lifestyle is amusing at best. The concerns of the amount of gauges not needed in this truck is false. You still need to know things. Shifting gears is learned in a month. Electric motor will assist in controlling the vehicle, which is good. Please speak with a truck driver or two (with 10 years of experience or so). There is a lot to driving than going straight down a highway. Turning, backing, bad roads, dealing with other vehicles make up most of the downsides of trucking. I personally am interested in the future of electric trucks (hydrogen fuel cells too). They will greatly improve trucking, but not so much in the ways expressed in your video. I do enjoy many of your videos, you just hit closer to home this time.
Cost per mile compared with Tesla Semi?
I was wondering why we didn't get a Rich video last Sunday. He is out hobnobbing with the Detroit Auto mafia.
They should make the chassis a little bit longer and put a big camper cabin on it.
Back when Sandy said Nikola was gonna be fine, i believed him, he was right...AGAIN!
They are going bankrupt. They have cash for less than 12 months. Tell me how they will ramp production without increasing spending.
@@user-number-the-one If the shareholders approve this would give them best case another 12 months, right?
It’s nice to see that it’s more than Vapourware, must make the investors happy … running them around a race track is a bit soft in my book … On the License, there should be a legacy license and a newgen license which covers Hydrogen and Electric. They are both that much more simple to drive.
Nice call on the pie warmer Sandy make mine a beef bacon and cheese!
Rich Benoit will want a Nikola truck to convert it to a diesel
Any updates on 100 truck order in NJ .. ?
Altair seems to have a low hanging FRUIT award .
Was the 100 truck announcement for BEV or FCEV truck for Alta?
Anyone see the burn mark on the high voltage connection?
you mean the plop of grease?
@@phtofl Now trucks recalled for just this item - water ingress?
Hi Sandy ! .... have you guys driven any of the SCANIA EVs ? .... Would be good to see.
What's the largest battery they've fitted? With good charge curves and access to fast chargers, 733 kWh would of course not be needed. Two or three 350 kW chargers, old reliably tech, to charge a single truck with a partitioned pack, would do the trick just fine with 500 kWh and not too lazy cells.
@@Cloxxki SCANIA has two designs - one is for last mile deliveries and one with overhead power take off from overhead power lines ie like a train. They have/working on an extended-range full BE truck of up to 500km+
SCANIA make good ICE trucks , POOR performance BEV semi.
@27:08 we discover why Sandy is so impressed - he is comparing a modern truck to something from half a century ago. Sandy, today trucks have air-ride cabs, air-ride seats, and even automatic transmissions. I'm sure that any car built today looks pretty good compared to antique car, too.
Rich hit high quote with "Highschool dropouts", but I am reminded that my high school chemistry lab partner, the smartest bugger in the school, dropped out because he was bored. A decade later he was teaching Materials Science at University. I know that the adventures in-between that final spot and not bothering being bored in class made him even better and certainly more curious.
Was nice to also have Jon with his 10 cents on the matter.
Looking forward to the Detroit-Toronto corridor have a ton of this technology.
Rich is a moron!
Nice! We want a video with Workhorse vans as well!
A revolution has come.
This is the company we need to compete with Tesla. This company is intentionally shorted on the stock market. If this company stock wouldn’t get manipulated then we could see it grow significantly. Buy now while ya still have a low stock price.
Sandy should ask ,,How much it cost to refuel these trucks ? And to make hydrogen ?
And the life of the hydrogen components?
What is that burned area around the HV plug / cable at 10:19 ?
the plop of grease on the HV cable (probably from the 5th wheel) you mean?
what are the trailer brakes? are they air or Regine
All EVs and hybrids have regenerative braking, and Sandy talked about the regenerative braking during his test drives in this video.
Although they have regenerative braking, that is not enough; all vehicles have friction brakes (drum or disk, hydraulic or air). Like all other heavy trucks, these IVECO S-ways have air brakes.
The trailer does not have any electric motors, so it only has air brakes. Much of the time, the truck will only use regenerative braking on it's one driven axle, instead of using the air brakes.
It's good to see more companies investing in FCEV's, I think there's more viability there than pure battery electric (or even doing a hybrid of the two would be great).
FCEVs have a few problems though. First of all the truck is much more expensive than the BEV one. Second - running it on hydrogen costs as much as diesel...
The economics will be its downfall. Electric trucks will be far cheaper over the truck life. Bio diesel trucks might be cheaper. Diesel trucks will be cheaper.
they are talking about ease of use driveblity and comfort compared to US semi trucks. so i think sandy shoud go to sweden and visit Scania and test their s770 V8 truck or Volvo fh750 whit i-shift DCT so they can compare nicola to european market leaders (and maybe also test their electric version). and also if i woud have been nicola i woud have gotten 570 hp Iveco S-way for comparison and also i woud put those longer cab fearinngs from hydrogen trucks to BEV model too because thatt long gap between cab and trailer is not that good on range.
Rich & John, cool
How much does it weigh?
Will Nikola offer the trucks with NACS charging ports?
I don’t think NACS can move enough energy… I don’t think Tesla is using it for their trucks… not sure though…
@@michaelsmithers4900 NACS is good for up to 1 MW according to Musk. The Tre is using CCS1 at up to 350kW right now.
@@michaelsmithers4900 From Tesla documents, NACS should be able to push 1MW.
but Tesla semi can charge at 1.5 MW so uses a beefier connector.
@@fluitfluiten The chargers Tesla is providing for the Semi are only 750kW. The square connector they are using might be capable of more but the battery in the truck apparently is not.
@@cruiser97eric1 where did you find that?
all I can find is the statement of getting a 70% charge in 30 minutes.
which assuming a battery size of 850 kWh = an average output of 1.19 MW
Nice video!
This company is so tarnished. I'm trying to be unbiased, but to no avail.
It's a real, real truck...definitely not a pusher...
Sorry, I had to do that.
@@ThePuttercross😂😂😂
Could you feel the ASIL D 's?
Still can´t trust the company, Trevor was not the only one involved in the scam but he was the only person charged. Someone else at Nikola must have known about the fraud and is still there.
Nikola-scam will run out of cash in 3 month. = BANKRUPT before xmas 2023 😎
Dude, this isn't 2020 anymore.
@@TylerDunford 3 years, multi-billion dollar fraud and only 1 person charged. You really believe Trevor did it all alone?
@@TylerDunford Edumacate yoself...read "Transport Topics" aka ttnews... Aug 7, 2023 article.
Fuel cells operating temperature range is generally above 176°F (80°C), good luck in winter...
Where I live that is a benefit. We get down to -50 in the winter. At least some of that heat can be captured and used.
The elephant in the video is : What happened to Corey?? If it won't violate any separation agreements, really curious to know why he is no longer with Munro.
You all seemed to work well together. If none of my business, I understand. Thanks
Hi Sandy! I would first like to say how much I love your channel. I agree with you, on so many of the things you say. Sandy, I know that you are looking for more and more knowledge, so please accept this nugget. Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles will not ever match BEV's (or currently ICE too) on cost per km. I encourage you to look into the math behind the cycle efficiency for hydrogen (generation, transport, storage, and FC Stack to wheels). Currently 98% of all hydrogen is Black (fossil derived), which has a higher CO2 rate then if you burned the fossils directly. BEV are a no brainer. I will recommend one website to look up facts about hydrogen, Hydrogen Science Coalition. But there are others like Michael Liebreich's Hydrogen Ladder and many others (Clean Technica, etc) just follow the science and the laws of thermodynamics.