Daaaamn I had almost just pressed the “confirm order” button. And I’m in Africa so you can imagine how much more money I was gonna spend to ship a worthless product. Thank you, you’re a wallet saver
I gotta say man, you've taught me some stuff. It's like being at class for lighting. Ive seen those multi sided LED bulb. "Logic" would think that would work great. Until you gain actual knowledge how these things really work. Im a novice headlight expert just from watching your videos. You explain things perfectly. Great video dude!
I absolutely love the style of these videos, explanation first, testing follows, no bullshit, no stalling to get video lengths up and increase as revenue, just top quality content. Thank you, this has made replacing the headlights on my car a walk in the park.
Glad that this video helped you out, thank you for commenting and for the support! If there is anything else we can do for you, let us know! Have a great day!
Excellent information; shared this video with a shop owner who was recommending the multi-sided LED bulbs to me. The more people that get a proper education on this matter-the better it is for everyone.
In a way, You're right. The headlight bulb collar can only be inserted and locked into place one way. From there, Most headlight bulbs can be adjusted or 'clocked' inside the collar itself. This will allow you to ensure the LEDs on the bulb are oriented properly in that particular headlight.
@@jberkhimer What you think matters very little to me, but you're also wrong. LEDSON LED 11G Xtreme (6000K) - H7 Is the name of the bulb. The collar can be turned all the way around, wich is fortunate cuz if the cable would have come out at the bottom they wouldn't have fit in my headlights.
this video is incredibly helpful. People buy LEDs without ideas. After watching this video, I believe that many people have remembered that they bought the wrong things.
@Headlight Revolution I have a 06 Honda pilot witch led can I use that's gonna give me good lighting was looking for something 6500k would appreciate the help
I've learned and understood so much out of this video, that I've never learned in 20 years of changing lightbulbs based only on the eyes and luck! THANK YOU!
Going to be honest, I was very very sceptical about the whole thing until after I had watched the whole video I finally understood how it works, thank you so much for the brilliant information, instant sub and like 👍🏼
Wow, I am so pleased to finally see someone who actually does know what he's talking about. Great job explaining why leds dont work in halogen reflectors. Another aspect to consider is the kelvin factor. The AMA asserts that the super white or high kelvin bulbs actually cause your pupils to constrict reducing visibility further. We see best with sunlight about 4500k since millions of years of practice. Oh, and could you please do a video on how to, and the importance of adjusting headlights correctly. Seems like some people need that. Great job , thanks.
I absolutely enjoyed watching this video! I find it really entertaining and you explained the different types of bulbs really well! I run LEDs in reflector headlights and they come out way brighter and way better. It depending on what bulb your looking for and like you said in the video, figure out the length and the width of the led bulb. A lot of people will say “No! You can’t use LEDs in reflector headlights! You’re blinding everybody!” I did have slightly shorter length LEDs in reflector headlights, I didn’t ever get flashed by oncoming cars, however, I’m always being a self conscious that the beam pattern isn’t brilliant and the cut off line isn’t great. I look into slightly longer ones which is Novsight ones again, it depends of how long and the width of the bulb you’re looking for. I gone for longer ones and the beam pattern comes out much better! Thank you so much for the info about the different bulbs!
I noticed the cone shaped led was only used in the halogen housing which I would have suspected would look like crap. But, if it was used in a projector housing with a shutter that calls for say a 9012 bulb, it seems to me that this would be an ideal situation, because the shutter would cut light from the end of the bulb in low beam and open the entire light source on high beam. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I bought the two-sided thin LED, but the seller sent the four-sided LED. I thought my eyes were betraying me but it appears I was correct that the LED is not bright and doesn’t work as it should. Thank you for sharing!
Not a problem, glad we could help with that! Sorry to hear that the multi-sided bulbs got sent to you! If you would like to get a new pair of bulbs on order, we are here to help! Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com
I put SL1 led lights in my 2015 Sierra and I love them! Didn't have to drill any holes because they are slim and was able to get the dust cap back on. If people would just do a little research before buying they could save themselves time and money.
I really wanted to see what the results were for that cone shaped bulb in the projector light. I ran one before, I'm considering running it again. My housings are at max height and it's still too low, so I'm wanting to try different styles of bulbs. I'm currently using FAHREN 9005 HB3 2 sided bulbs on a 13 Dodge Dart withe Spec D Tuning sequential switchback headlamp assemblies.
They work fine in projector housings. I tried the normal LEDs in mine and it was terrible. Then I put the 360 bulbs in and they worked really well. And vice versa, the 360 was terrible in my reflector housing.
Exactly, I use them in my 2001 Ford focus and the headlights are better than they've ever been.... Everything he described was not the case for me, but I assume he's speaking for more modern headlight housings.
Have you ever tested LED bulb in housing that are for off road equipment? The housing that I am wondering about were reflector style and generally used a 9005 bulb. Typically they were setup to produce either a trapezoidal or flood pattern. I assume the same basic apply for the trapezoidal hosing but what about the flood?
Thanks for this, I fitted a three element to my motorcycle headlamp and could not understand why it was so terrible, annoyed hell out of other oncoming vehicles and there was basically zero difference between high and low, now looking for proper 2 element LED.
Very useful! Thank you so much , i almost bought a 4 sided led highlight , now i'm buying a very good 2 sided led highlight , god bless you. (Sorry if my english isn't perfect but i'm italian)
This was awesome!!! Thank you for teaching us the truth!!! Unfortunately too many people may know this, but not look fo the quality in the product. They want the look, and unfortunately it's blinding and not too many people care about it.
Great video. I was trying to find fog light leds for my car online and felt overwhelmed and clueless. This may have saved me from making a terrible purchase I feel more knowledgeable now already. Thanks!
I recently found your channel and admire your knowledge of LEDs. I’ve been watching for any info I can get on buying some LED lights to upgrade the fog lights on my 2008 CTS Cadillac, regardless of price, can you recommend the best LED specifically for the fog lights of my car?
oh my god thats why!!😭 i just bought a two sided led for my car which it has projector headlights, and i just figured that it does not compatible with it, that is why i felt so weird why it doesnt looks as bright as my other cars which uses different kind of headlights, thanks for the precise and very easy to understand explanation!!!❤
Glad we could save you from that horror!😂 Let us know if you would like to get a pair of bulbs going, and we will be happy to help! Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com
These 5:15 and 5:28 bulbs could work well in a projector headlight as they are similar in light point size to a hid bulb. It's a pity you didn't test them in the projector. The ones you tested in the projector have a larger light point.
It's been confirmed the 5:28 bulb works perfect with projector headlights: th-cam.com/video/Xe4rksyLzw0/w-d-xo.html He says it's useless for freeform headlights as well.
Those 360 style definitely don’t work for hi or low beam headlights,, but I use them for turns, brakes, DRLs, side markers, and all interior lights I realize it’s a headlight website, but just saying. Great information ! I’m addicted to this channel lol !
Pretty cool examples but I have a set of the 360° cone(as you called them) in my projector headlights and they have the cutoff and hot spot, brighter than halogen don't know exact amount as I don't have a lux reader
Which ones did use? I’m having a hard time finding bulbs for my projectors and came across the cone LED’s but this video is saying otherwise but I didn’t see them use the cone leds in the projector lens I’m guessing cause they worked better than all the bulbs.
Yes you are right about the 360 led on halogen reflector housing but in my case, tried so many LED bulbs and ended up in the 360 led. Im using stock projector bi beam on my car with the solenoid magnetic cutoff. I got a nice cutoff and a better high beam than most of the leds i tried. Thanks for the info as always!
This video is definitely informative. I don't have a car yet, but I am planning to have one and the most important factor in selecting the best suitable car for me is headlights as I will be driving in all weather conditions and in daylight or night time, so I want to have reasonable visibility while driving at night and at the same time not blinding other drivers. Thank you man, I know what I want now
So glad that this video helped you out, you are totally right, it is very important to be able to see well when driving in all conditions! If there is anything else we can do for you, let us know, we are here to help! Have a good one!
So I know the results are in the vid but I've got some 4 sided led on a aftermarket housing that's probably off on the reflections so I've had best results with the 4 sided I've tried the 2 sided aswell not sure why
What I find ironic is a few years ago, every TH-cam video said "use projector housings for LED bulbs!" and this right here shows that wasn't the problem. I'm glad I've waited, might do some LEDs in my Malibu... you know, the one where you have to remove the entire front of the car to change the headlights? Yeah, that one.
I like how the video used some measurements, however I personally disagree with the fact that having multisided led is bad for headlights, i might agree in some regular headlights but in most modern headlights which contain a lens, it is automatically designed to gather the light into one spot
Thank you for the awesome video. A lot of people don't think about the small details that make big differences. In my professional life I have seen people just don't care about these details and wonder why they put their projects fail
I totally agree, that 2sided LEDs are the way to go. BUT I have headlight with separate high and low beam and it seems, that multiple-sided led would be better for high beam reflector. Yes, their light source may have larger area, but I don't think it is a downside in high beams. They may be hot, but I think that would be okay, because you don't use high beams for long periods of time. What do you think please?
The issue with using multi sided LED bulbs for high beams would be the lack of brightness and also a terrible beam pattern. Even though you don't have to worry about blinding people when your high beams on (assuming no traffic is coming since they are on) you won't have the light going where it's needed. 2 Sided bulbs will still be better for high beam applications.
How could I reduce glare / scatter over the low beam cutoff? I replaced my LEDs with halogens cause I thought it would help, but it’s exactly the same, just precieved dimmer cause it’s a warmer color temp. I’m gonna stick with the halogen ones till they die, then try out those mini-projectors where you have to remove the inner dome, assuming I don’t find a fix for regular bulbs. Car is a 2008 Honda Fit Sport.
The mini projector I’m talking about are the kind where you don’t have to do a WHOLE retrofit. They just look like a big bulb, with a lens on the front. They’re supposed to have a sharp cutoff just like a full-size projector. All you gotta do is remove the little dome / glare blocker from the inside of the housing, and the bulbs do all the work. Not using the headlight housing’s reflector at all. Assuming they actually work.. luckily for my car, I can reinstall that dome piece if it doesn’t work, or I change my mind in the future.
Wish I had seen this before my failed purchase. Only $20 loss but unnecessary cost for education. Fog light replacement on my 2011 Equinox. Hoping to match my upgrade to the headlight's which work perfectly!! Theory seemed will founded...all those LED's should have lite up a football stadium. After install and facing the car, they didn't seem overly impressive but the light color matched the headlights... from behind the steering wheel I thought they had burnt out!! Being it was twilight outside at the time, I thought they would get better at full darkness. NOT! Turning the fog lights only on, was the only way I knew they were working. I literally had better down the road brightness holding my cellphone out the window with the flashlight on. Thanks for the info to understanding why it doesn't work!!!
I watched this after I installed the 4 sided 9006 low beam led lights. I was using 2 sided 9006 LEDs and I saw 3-4 sided ones when I was browsing. Since their prices were very similar to my 2 sided ones, I decided to UPGRADE my low beams with the more powerful ones. Actually they are producing more light than my 2 sided ones in my case but the problem is they have vertically wider angle with the same headlights. I was trying to find out how to adjust the aim of the low and high beam lights separately because the upper line of 4 sided LEDs were quite higher than my high beams. I found only one adjustment bolt in my 2006 Honda Odyssey that adjusts the aim of the whole assembly. I am not a professional but if I understand everything correctly, there should be no way to adjust them properly while preserving the aim of the high beams. Because the additional sides of the 2 sided bulbs will always create a problem since they are not designed properly as you explained in this video. Thanks for sharing 👍
That is the issue with those multi sided LEDs, they usually produce terrible beam patterns. If adjusting the headlights is not fixing anything, I hate to say it but the bulbs themselves may be causing the issue.
Don't blame for multi-sided led or 2-sided LED brightness, both also could work well in different condition. brightness of LED also relied on efficiency of heat dissipation, defo high temperature will resulted less brightness. Another issue is type of LED chip performance and luminous intensity of CSP/COB/DOB/Epistar/Osram, CSP is work better than ordinary COB. Beam patterns wise? it's also depend which type light reflector and lens to fit for LED.
I think you’re right I just installed an led with 4 sides in my Mercedes headlights didn’t work the light doesn’t shine far away and the lights just spread out not pointing to the road but no blind spot I hated it. I’ve used an Hid for more then 3 years and it works good but it just that I wanted to see far away that’s why I changed to LED . What can I use on my car headlights ?
Send us an email to Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com and we will get you exactly what you need for your vehicle. There are a few good options to choose from, We will get you taken care of!
Which led color is the most comparable to a halogen bulb? Although the 6000k is a very nice, a color that's similar to a halogen might help in countries where installing leds is illegal. 3000k is to yellow, but 4000k is to white compared to a halogen... Maybe you can make a video about this subject.
@@HeadlightRevolution I've seen a lot of cars with oem xenon with 4300k and the light is a lot whiter than a halogen, so definitely a led with 4300k will be whiter than a halogen.
I want to upgrade my Toyota CHR headlights assembly from halogen to led but problem is that led headlights assembly has ECU. I don't know how to connect car headlights wiring with led headlights ECU..can you please help me. Is there any video explaining the upgradation process
Been there done that. The Ultra's a good for a year if you're lucky. They run super hot so there's no life in them, they are nice and bright but LED's are far brighter than even the Ultra's. However with the Ultra's PNP and no error codes so that's one advantage. Halogens are dead in my opinion and all future vehicles will have LED, Laser or another new source. I expect Graphene to be part of future tech in lighting.
Need to know about the style bulbs that have a projector built in on the bulb itself. Led is right on the center and looks like a small magnifying glass....?
That's why I have 5k, 2 sided led, on a lifted jeep with led fogs too and with the low beam I have plenty of lighting for night driving and rarely use my brights any more
Hello Sir, I bought these 360• long time ago and u r right they don’t work.. so thinking of buying new ones but again there r so many in the market. Your video has cleared what type of led we should buy but the led they use are two types COB and CSP so my curiosity is which one is the best... pls help... thnx
End of 2024 now, there are lots of new 4-sided LED on the market now with CSP chip, and some of them seem even thinner than some 2-sided LED, will those improve the brightness/beam pattern and be competitive to the traditional 2-sided?
Despite advancements in LED technology, multi-sided LED headlight bulbs, including the newer 4-sided designs with CSP chips, still do not outperform traditional 2-sided LED bulbs in terms of beam pattern and brightness. The primary reason is that 2-sided LEDs more accurately replicate the position and size of halogen filaments, ensuring optimal alignment with the vehicle's reflector or projector housing. This alignment is crucial for producing a focused beam pattern that enhances road visibility without causing glare to oncoming traffic. In contrast, multi-sided LEDs introduce multiple light sources that can disrupt the intended beam pattern, leading to scattered light and potential safety hazards. Even with thinner designs and advanced chip technology, these bulbs often fail to provide the precise light distribution achieved by well-designed 2-sided LEDs.
How would you compare all the two-sided LED light bulbs? Also, is there something on your website that I can see and compare which is best for a 7th gen Nissan Maxima? For fog lights as well
Send us an email to Sales@HeadlightRevolution.com and we'll help you get exactly what you need for your vehicle. We have many options for you and your Nissan Maxima.
I currently have two sided LED bulbs in my 2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara and the lighting sucks. The fogs work well but the projector headlights barely throw any light. I bought 360 Leds to try and if they suck I will go HID. When I read the reviews of the 360 Leds in projectors everybody said they were better than halogen so idk
I don't know I put 4 sided H11 LED headlight bulbs on my stock headlight casings on my 2015 Nissan Sentra two years ago. Visibility is not only brighter but it also gives you a wider and father view which to me is priority since I do a lot of highway state to state driving during the night and wildlife can surprise you here in Colorado. I also get a lot of compliments from friends and strangers at gas stations. I've also noticed it makes my vehicle look newer if im driving behind you and it looks a lot better than outdated yellow headlights. My best friend has the same exact car w. Regular headlights we've put the car side by side in the pitch black Colorado mountains and it was OBVIOUS my LED lights were vastly superior in terms of brightness, distance and a wider view. My only complaint is they do not illuminate nearly as well as halogens do in heavy rain!! I still firmly believe the pros outweigh the cons! I would definatley recommend. Im a real consumer for two years now.
Also halogen bulbs will burn out a lot sooner than LED headlights like a LOT earlier. They produce a lot more heat causing quicker fading and yellow nasty film on your headlight casing. Lastly, they use a lot more power and current than led bulbs which results in higher demand from your alternator and battery which could mean premature costly repairs. Ill put it this way I have always purchased the standard cheap Walmart battery for my car and mind you i live in Colorado so I sit and smoke in my car regularly with my lights, and radio on continuously for hours and those lights have never ever caused my battery to die. With my halogen bulbs Id have to turn my car on every 10-12 minutes to keep the battery from draining. The difference is current is crazy. I do recommend LED headlights!
LEDs really do help, although we could not find a pair of multi-sided LEDs that really worked that well in any headlight application. I am glad that they are working for you in that application, let us know if you need anything else! Thanks for the support!🙏
What is the correct position of two sided led bulb in projector head light? Is it horizontal - meaning led chip is up and down or vertical left and rigth )
I put them in my wife's 13 Explorer that has projector style headlights. Way better light, no blinding with same beam pattern. And I believe they are 2 sided. They were designed for the projector housings.
Thanks for your information. I consider the thin 2 sides LED bulb is used for the REFLECT headlight, the multi sides LED is suitable to the projector/len headlight. Am I right?
Because of this video i bought some LEDs very close to the stock footprint of a halogen bulb, similar to the SL1. They come with the resistor boxes. When i turn them on they work great. But when i crank up my truck they strobe. But once i flash my highbeams, they stop strobing and work just fine. Why is that?
That is due to your vehicles daytime running light. Unfortunately, the only LED bulb that will work with those DRLs is the Xenon Depot Xtreme LED Pro bulbs with the DRL Driver.
@@HeadlightRevolution oh wow. Ok. All research i did, i didnt see anything about that. Thank you for that. So now i can stop looking for problems lol. I was ready to send the lights back.
I have 2-sided Hikari Eye of Megatron LEDs but they don't work well in my projectors, they have light missing within the beam pattern and I don't think they are bright enough. Bought a HID kit that I'm going to test next.
Can such 360 bulbs be used to replace Xenon bulbs though? In theory I mean. Nowadays there are plenty of really thin 360 LED bulbs which are still too big for halo get replacement, but look to be really close to HID light emitting element size wise.
SAFETY RECALL NOTICE for SL1 LED HEADLIGHT BULBS (Model Numbers DD0215P, DD0216P, DD0217P, DD0218P, DD0219P, DD0323P, and DD0340P) Its on their website, what ese do you recommend?
thx dude my father replaced original halogen to led and i was wondering why its throw is scattered, i will try to turn the led like u told in the video or else i will till myfather to get back the original halogens
So if the led was all the way round and same position and size it should work in theory. So while the thin one is close and works ideally that would be best not to be confused with 3 or 4 sided ones ur discussing
This is SO important so you actually choose proper headlights for your car. Otherwise you do blind other drivers and your down road vision is seriously impaired. Great video!
Daaaamn I had almost just pressed the “confirm order” button. And I’m in Africa so you can imagine how much more money I was gonna spend to ship a worthless product. Thank you, you’re a wallet saver
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I gotta say man, you've taught me some stuff. It's like being at class for lighting. Ive seen those multi sided LED bulb. "Logic" would think that would work great. Until you gain actual knowledge how these things really work. Im a novice headlight expert just from watching your videos. You explain things perfectly. Great video dude!
Thanks for watching!
I absolutely love the style of these videos, explanation first, testing follows, no bullshit, no stalling to get video lengths up and increase as revenue, just top quality content.
Thank you, this has made replacing the headlights on my car a walk in the park.
Glad that this video helped you out, thank you for commenting and for the support! If there is anything else we can do for you, let us know! Have a great day!
Excellent information; shared this video with a shop owner who was recommending the multi-sided LED bulbs to me. The more people that get a proper education on this matter-the better it is for everyone.
That is very true, I'm glad we could help.
One dosen't have to sell anything just educate them an that will sell itself let them do their own research after that
You're that guy... 🤦🏻♂️
This is, by far, the best video that explains everything perfectly. It makes narrowing the worthy candidate bulbs much easier!
I just went outside and turned my 2 sided LEDs 90 degrees (from vertical to horizontal) and I got better lights now, ty.
I'm so glad you got it taken care of! That makes a huge difference.
I'm calling BS. Headlights are "clocked" so they only fit into a headlight housing one way.
In a way, You're right. The headlight bulb collar can only be inserted and locked into place one way. From there, Most headlight bulbs can be adjusted or 'clocked' inside the collar itself. This will allow you to ensure the LEDs on the bulb are oriented properly in that particular headlight.
@@jberkhimer What you think matters very little to me, but you're also wrong. LEDSON LED 11G Xtreme (6000K) - H7 Is the name of the bulb. The collar can be turned all the way around, wich is fortunate cuz if the cable would have come out at the bottom they wouldn't have fit in my headlights.
@@KalLanPIDT Nope. Look at the bulb and it has a tab that aligns it. BS.
this video is incredibly helpful. People buy LEDs without ideas. After watching this video, I believe that many people have remembered that they bought the wrong things.
Glad you liked the video!
Thanks for the info. These tests are the only way to actually understand and learn. You just saved many people from buying these bulbs.
We do our best to save you guy some time, energy and money!
I was surely about to buy a 4 sided bulb.........
Sounds like advertising an specific brand too. ;)
@Headlight Revolution I have a 06 Honda pilot witch led can I use that's gonna give me good lighting was looking for something 6500k would appreciate the help
Too late for me damm i already got my 4 sided led
I was just about to purchase a 360 degree bulb until I watched this video. Thanks for saving me $40!
I've learned and understood so much out of this video, that I've never learned in 20 years of changing lightbulbs based only on the eyes and luck! THANK YOU!
Going to be honest, I was very very sceptical about the whole thing until after I had watched the whole video I finally understood how it works, thank you so much for the brilliant information, instant sub and like 👍🏼
No problem Rudy! Glad this was helpful for you!
Wow, I am so pleased to finally see someone who actually does know what he's talking about. Great job explaining why leds dont work in halogen reflectors. Another aspect to consider is the kelvin factor. The AMA asserts that the super white or high kelvin bulbs actually cause your pupils to constrict reducing visibility further. We see best with sunlight about 4500k since millions of years of practice. Oh, and could you please do a video on how to, and the importance of adjusting headlights correctly. Seems like some people need that. Great job , thanks.
Oh they work ,maybe not as good ,but they still work .and bright to
This video just made me remove the LED Bulbs in my cart and go for some others instead. Thanks for the masterclass man!
We are always happy to help!
I absolutely enjoyed watching this video! I find it really entertaining and you explained the different types of bulbs really well! I run LEDs in reflector headlights and they come out way brighter and way better. It depending on what bulb your looking for and like you said in the video, figure out the length and the width of the led bulb. A lot of people will say “No! You can’t use LEDs in reflector headlights! You’re blinding everybody!” I did have slightly shorter length LEDs in reflector headlights, I didn’t ever get flashed by oncoming cars, however, I’m always being a self conscious that the beam pattern isn’t brilliant and the cut off line isn’t great. I look into slightly longer ones which is Novsight ones again, it depends of how long and the width of the bulb you’re looking for. I gone for longer ones and the beam pattern comes out much better! Thank you so much for the info about the different bulbs!
I noticed the cone shaped led was only used in the halogen housing which I would have suspected would look like crap. But, if it was used in a projector housing with a shutter that calls for say a 9012 bulb, it seems to me that this would be an ideal situation, because the shutter would cut light from the end of the bulb in low beam and open the entire light source on high beam. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Of course you're correct but that wouldn't fit with *Headlight Revolution's* narrative.
ULTRA2 was the best bulb I've ever used! Worth the money. I hope they are as good as in projectors in my 07 Reflector Odyssey headlight
I bought the two-sided thin LED, but the seller sent the four-sided LED. I thought my eyes were betraying me but it appears I was correct that the LED is not bright and doesn’t work as it should. Thank you for sharing!
Not a problem, glad we could help with that! Sorry to hear that the multi-sided bulbs got sent to you! If you would like to get a new pair of bulbs on order, we are here to help!
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I put SL1 led lights in my 2015 Sierra and I love them! Didn't have to drill any holes because they are slim and was able to get the dust cap back on. If people would just do a little research before buying they could save themselves time and money.
That's very true and that's why we're here! There is a lot of misinformation out there as well. The SL1 bulbs are a solid choice from a good company.
I really wanted to see what the results were for that cone shaped bulb in the projector light. I ran one before, I'm considering running it again. My housings are at max height and it's still too low, so I'm wanting to try different styles of bulbs. I'm currently using FAHREN 9005 HB3 2 sided bulbs on a 13 Dodge Dart withe Spec D Tuning sequential switchback headlamp assemblies.
Excellent informative video, I wish that all videos were produced like yours! I learned a lot about LEDs. Thank you and keep up the good work!
No problem!
Wow! Finally a video that tells the real story. This is absolutely the best video I have seen on LED lights. Thanks so much.
You're very welcome, thanks so much for watching!
I would just recommend to always check reviews on the bulb and see if there is any person who tried it on TH-cam or anywhere
The Auxito 9012 with a thin separation of the two LEDs on either side at face value would seem to conform to your ideal LED bulb.
Just wow. A lot of information for a new user in a single video. Totally loved the videos. Thanks for making it ♥
My pleasure 😊
They work fine in projector housings.
I tried the normal LEDs in mine and it was terrible. Then I put the 360 bulbs in and they worked really well.
And vice versa, the 360 was terrible in my reflector housing.
Exactly, I use them in my 2001 Ford focus and the headlights are better than they've ever been.... Everything he described was not the case for me, but I assume he's speaking for more modern headlight housings.
Finally a great review with showing results.... Thank you for so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for keeping me on the correct path for my halogen projectors.
Glad to help!
Have you ever tested LED bulb in housing that are for off road equipment? The housing that I am wondering about were reflector style and generally used a 9005 bulb. Typically they were setup to produce either a trapezoidal or flood pattern. I assume the same basic apply for the trapezoidal hosing but what about the flood?
A good set of LED bulbs should still imitate that same pattern, Especially if you go with something like the GTR Lighting Ultra Series 2 or the S-V.4
Thanks for this, I fitted a three element to my motorcycle headlamp and could not understand why it was so terrible, annoyed hell out of other oncoming vehicles and there was basically zero difference between high and low, now looking for proper 2 element LED.
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Same as you
3 sided led lights looks cool from the outside but in duty it's terrible
will try 2 sided one .
Very useful! Thank you so much , i almost bought a 4 sided led highlight , now i'm buying a very good 2 sided led highlight , god bless you. (Sorry if my english isn't perfect but i'm italian)
I'm glad we were able to save you from a headache!
This was awesome!!! Thank you for teaching us the truth!!! Unfortunately too many people may know this, but not look fo the quality in the product. They want the look, and unfortunately it's blinding and not too many people care about it.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. I was trying to find fog light leds for my car online and felt overwhelmed and clueless. This may have saved me from making a terrible purchase I feel more knowledgeable now already. Thanks!
Noproblem!
I've always wondered seeing them 360 degrees bulbs online... now I know better, thanks so much. Very informative!
You're welcome!
Thanks for using proper SI units.😀
I recently found your channel and admire your knowledge of LEDs. I’ve been watching for any info I can get on buying some LED lights to upgrade the fog lights on my 2008 CTS Cadillac, regardless of price, can you recommend the best LED specifically for the fog lights of my car?
I would suggest the GTR Ultra 2 bulbs!
www.headlightrevolution.com/h11-h8-h9-ultra-series-bulbs-LED.BUL.H11.ULTRA_2
Does this also apply to fog lights? The only fog lights that have worked properly for me are the 4 sided leds.
This would apply to any bulb used for automotive lighting.
I got tired of trying to find a pair of led I liked so I spend the money and retrofitted projectors with hids. Completely worth every penny I spent
A projector retrofit is still king as far as output goes!
How about on a projector lens?
Great question
oh my god thats why!!😭 i just bought a two sided led for my car which it has projector headlights, and i just figured that it does not compatible with it, that is why i felt so weird why it doesnt looks as bright as my other cars which uses different kind of headlights, thanks for the precise and very easy to understand explanation!!!❤
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I just cancelled an order for 3 sided led headlight after watching the first 5 mins of the video. Thanks for the information
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These 5:15 and 5:28 bulbs could work well in a projector headlight as they are similar in light point size to a hid bulb. It's a pity you didn't test them in the projector. The ones you tested in the projector have a larger light point.
Thanks for the comment.
It's been confirmed the 5:28 bulb works perfect with projector headlights:
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He says it's useless for freeform headlights as well.
Those 360 style definitely don’t work for hi or low beam headlights,, but I use them for turns, brakes, DRLs, side markers, and all interior lights
I realize it’s a headlight website, but just saying. Great information ! I’m addicted to this channel lol !
Pretty cool examples but I have a set of the 360° cone(as you called them) in my projector headlights and they have the cutoff and hot spot, brighter than halogen don't know exact amount as I don't have a lux reader
Which ones did use? I’m having a hard time finding bulbs for my projectors and came across the cone LED’s but this video is saying otherwise but I didn’t see them use the cone leds in the projector lens I’m guessing cause they worked better than all the bulbs.
Yes you are right about the 360 led on halogen reflector housing but in my case, tried so many LED bulbs and ended up in the 360 led. Im using stock projector bi beam on my car with the solenoid magnetic cutoff. I got a nice cutoff and a better high beam than most of the leds i tried. Thanks for the info as always!
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This video is definitely informative. I don't have a car yet, but I am planning to have one and the most important factor in selecting the best suitable car for me is headlights as I will be driving in all weather conditions and in daylight or night time, so I want to have reasonable visibility while driving at night and at the same time not blinding other drivers. Thank you man, I know what I want now
So glad that this video helped you out, you are totally right, it is very important to be able to see well when driving in all conditions! If there is anything else we can do for you, let us know, we are here to help! Have a good one!
So I know the results are in the vid but I've got some 4 sided led on a aftermarket housing that's probably off on the reflections so I've had best results with the 4 sided I've tried the 2 sided aswell not sure why
Need to try some better 2 sided bulbs! 😉
What I find ironic is a few years ago, every TH-cam video said "use projector housings for LED bulbs!" and this right here shows that wasn't the problem. I'm glad I've waited, might do some LEDs in my Malibu... you know, the one where you have to remove the entire front of the car to change the headlights? Yeah, that one.
Some of these vehicles can be such a pain! I'm glad our channel was able to help you out, Let us know if you ever need anything!
just have ordered a day ago my H4 double light led bulb. shall i make it 32 and take it, after receiving my parcel.........man u r simply supered.
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I like how the video used some measurements, however I personally disagree with the fact that having multisided led is bad for headlights, i might agree in some regular headlights but in most modern headlights which contain a lens, it is automatically designed to gather the light into one spot
And in the Projector Headlights, like Bi beam Xenon, it’s works?
This depends on the headlight!
@@HeadlightRevolution projector that uses HID for dual main beams, which LED would be better?
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Thank you for the awesome video. A lot of people don't think about the small details that make big differences. In my professional life I have seen people just don't care about these details and wonder why they put their projects fail
Details are everything! Thank you for watching.
I totally agree, that 2sided LEDs are the way to go. BUT I have headlight with separate high and low beam and it seems, that multiple-sided led would be better for high beam reflector. Yes, their light source may have larger area, but I don't think it is a downside in high beams. They may be hot, but I think that would be okay, because you don't use high beams for long periods of time. What do you think please?
The issue with using multi sided LED bulbs for high beams would be the lack of brightness and also a terrible beam pattern. Even though you don't have to worry about blinding people when your high beams on (assuming no traffic is coming since they are on) you won't have the light going where it's needed. 2 Sided bulbs will still be better for high beam applications.
How could I reduce glare / scatter over the low beam cutoff?
I replaced my LEDs with halogens cause I thought it would help, but it’s exactly the same, just precieved dimmer cause it’s a warmer color temp.
I’m gonna stick with the halogen ones till they die, then try out those mini-projectors where you have to remove the inner dome, assuming I don’t find a fix for regular bulbs.
Car is a 2008 Honda Fit Sport.
The mini projector I’m talking about are the kind where you don’t have to do a WHOLE retrofit. They just look like a big bulb, with a lens on the front.
They’re supposed to have a sharp cutoff just like a full-size projector.
All you gotta do is remove the little dome / glare blocker from the inside of the housing, and the bulbs do all the work. Not using the headlight housing’s reflector at all.
Assuming they actually work.. luckily for my car, I can reinstall that dome piece if it doesn’t work, or I change my mind in the future.
Wish I had seen this before my failed purchase. Only $20 loss but unnecessary cost for education. Fog light replacement on my 2011 Equinox. Hoping to match my upgrade to the headlight's which work perfectly!! Theory seemed will founded...all those LED's should have lite up a football stadium. After install and facing the car, they didn't seem overly impressive but the light color matched the headlights... from behind the steering wheel I thought they had burnt out!! Being it was twilight outside at the time, I thought they would get better at full darkness. NOT! Turning the fog lights only on, was the only way I knew they were working. I literally had better down the road brightness holding my cellphone out the window with the flashlight on. Thanks for the info to understanding why it doesn't work!!!
I watched this after I installed the 4 sided 9006 low beam led lights. I was using 2 sided 9006 LEDs and I saw 3-4 sided ones when I was browsing. Since their prices were very similar to my 2 sided ones, I decided to UPGRADE my low beams with the more powerful ones. Actually they are producing more light than my 2 sided ones in my case but the problem is they have vertically wider angle with the same headlights. I was trying to find out how to adjust the aim of the low and high beam lights separately because the upper line of 4 sided LEDs were quite higher than my high beams. I found only one adjustment bolt in my 2006 Honda Odyssey that adjusts the aim of the whole assembly. I am not a professional but if I understand everything correctly, there should be no way to adjust them properly while preserving the aim of the high beams. Because the additional sides of the 2 sided bulbs will always create a problem since they are not designed properly as you explained in this video. Thanks for sharing 👍
That is the issue with those multi sided LEDs, they usually produce terrible beam patterns. If adjusting the headlights is not fixing anything, I hate to say it but the bulbs themselves may be causing the issue.
Don't blame for multi-sided led or 2-sided LED brightness, both also could work well in different condition. brightness of LED also relied on efficiency of heat dissipation, defo high temperature will resulted less brightness. Another issue is type of LED chip performance and luminous intensity of CSP/COB/DOB/Epistar/Osram, CSP is work better than ordinary COB. Beam patterns wise? it's also depend which type light reflector and lens to fit for LED.
exactly my point 💯
I think you’re right I just installed an led with 4 sides in my Mercedes headlights didn’t work the light doesn’t shine far away and the lights just spread out not pointing to the road but no blind spot I hated it. I’ve used an Hid for more then 3 years and it works good but it just that I wanted to see far away that’s why I changed to LED . What can I use on my car headlights ?
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Which led color is the most comparable to a halogen bulb? Although the 6000k is a very nice, a color that's similar to a halogen might help in countries where installing leds is illegal. 3000k is to yellow, but 4000k is to white compared to a halogen... Maybe you can make a video about this subject.
4300k is going to be most comparable to a typical halogen bulb, Especially with a 55w HID ballast.
@@HeadlightRevolution I've seen a lot of cars with oem xenon with 4300k and the light is a lot whiter than a halogen, so definitely a led with 4300k will be whiter than a halogen.
I want to upgrade my Toyota CHR headlights assembly from halogen to led but problem is that led headlights assembly has ECU. I don't know how to connect car headlights wiring with led headlights ECU..can you please help me. Is there any video explaining the upgradation process
I'll stick with my halogens.
Sylvania silver star ultra all the way.
No shame in that, You should check out the VisionX Halogen bulbs too. They have some solid high power options that are pretty affordable.
Been there done that. The Ultra's a good for a year if you're lucky. They run super hot so there's no life in them, they are nice and bright but LED's are far brighter than even the Ultra's. However with the Ultra's PNP and no error codes so that's one advantage. Halogens are dead in my opinion and all future vehicles will have LED, Laser or another new source. I expect Graphene to be part of future tech in lighting.
LED bulbs are good for sidelights and interior lights.
And new bulbs every 9-12 months! LED's are great if you get the right ones designed for the tight housing.
That’s what I run. Been good lights for me. Many years on my current set.
Need to know about the style bulbs that have a projector built in on the bulb itself. Led is right on the center and looks like a small magnifying glass....?
They do not work!
That's why I have 5k, 2 sided led, on a lifted jeep with led fogs too and with the low beam I have plenty of lighting for night driving and rarely use my brights any more
That sounds like a good combination!
Hello Sir, I bought these 360• long time ago and u r right they don’t work.. so thinking of buying new ones but again there r so many in the market. Your video has cleared what type of led we should buy but the led they use are two types COB and CSP so my curiosity is which one is the best... pls help... thnx
COB is an older style of LED chips that we would not recommend. CSP chips will be much better.
Headlight Revolution Thnk u sir.... big help👍👍👍👍
You're very welcome!
End of 2024 now, there are lots of new 4-sided LED on the market now with CSP chip, and some of them seem even thinner than some 2-sided LED, will those improve the brightness/beam pattern and be competitive to the traditional 2-sided?
Despite advancements in LED technology, multi-sided LED headlight bulbs, including the newer 4-sided designs with CSP chips, still do not outperform traditional 2-sided LED bulbs in terms of beam pattern and brightness. The primary reason is that 2-sided LEDs more accurately replicate the position and size of halogen filaments, ensuring optimal alignment with the vehicle's reflector or projector housing. This alignment is crucial for producing a focused beam pattern that enhances road visibility without causing glare to oncoming traffic.
In contrast, multi-sided LEDs introduce multiple light sources that can disrupt the intended beam pattern, leading to scattered light and potential safety hazards. Even with thinner designs and advanced chip technology, these bulbs often fail to provide the precise light distribution achieved by well-designed 2-sided LEDs.
These are great videos, really top notch.. too bad I started watching them AFTER I bought all my led headlights. 😂
Thanks for the feedback.
How would you compare all the two-sided LED light bulbs? Also, is there something on your website that I can see and compare which is best for a 7th gen Nissan Maxima? For fog lights as well
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Awesome input on headlamp and headlight design characteristics, thank you for the video. New Sub.
Awesome! We're glad to have you here!
For a reflector housing I can understand. What about a 360 bulb in a projector housing?
It's still not a good option, You'll usually see a lack of hotspot and an overall dim pattern.
I currently have two sided LED bulbs in my 2007 Suzuki Grand Vitara and the lighting sucks. The fogs work well but the projector headlights barely throw any light. I bought 360 Leds to try and if they suck I will go HID. When I read the reviews of the 360 Leds in projectors everybody said they were better than halogen so idk
hello I would like to know which model will be compatible for a honda rubicon 2022 to replace the high and low headlights . Thanks 😉
Sir what about c6 led bulb for h4 or 9006/hb4
What about projector headlights that are specifically for LEDs?
Would LED bulbs from big companies such as Philips and Osram be suitable to replace halogen bulbs?
Phillips and Osram make great HID bulbs, Their LED bulbs really aren't that good just yet.
@@HeadlightRevolution thank you for the explanation.
What about 360 degrees LED bulbs used in Projection housings?
Still doesn't work 😢
Just bought the DD SL1's for my 18' Cruze w reflectors. Large improvement over halogen & very focused.
Diode Dynamics is a solid choice.
Can you do a test with a projector housing?
They still scatter the light, same result just slightly more focused.
I don't know I put 4 sided H11 LED headlight bulbs on my stock headlight casings on my 2015 Nissan Sentra two years ago. Visibility is not only brighter but it also gives you a wider and father view which to me is priority since I do a lot of highway state to state driving during the night and wildlife can surprise you here in Colorado. I also get a lot of compliments from friends and strangers at gas stations. I've also noticed it makes my vehicle look newer if im driving behind you and it looks a lot better than outdated yellow headlights. My best friend has the same exact car w. Regular headlights we've put the car side by side in the pitch black Colorado mountains and it was OBVIOUS my LED lights were vastly superior in terms of brightness, distance and a wider view. My only complaint is they do not illuminate nearly as well as halogens do in heavy rain!! I still firmly believe the pros outweigh the cons! I would definatley recommend. Im a real consumer for two years now.
Also halogen bulbs will burn out a lot sooner than LED headlights like a LOT earlier. They produce a lot more heat causing quicker fading and yellow nasty film on your headlight casing. Lastly, they use a lot more power and current than led bulbs which results in higher demand from your alternator and battery which could mean premature costly repairs. Ill put it this way I have always purchased the standard cheap Walmart battery for my car and mind you i live in Colorado so I sit and smoke in my car regularly with my lights, and radio on continuously for hours and those lights have never ever caused my battery to die. With my halogen bulbs Id have to turn my car on every 10-12 minutes to keep the battery from draining. The difference is current is crazy. I do recommend LED headlights!
LEDs really do help, although we could not find a pair of multi-sided LEDs that really worked that well in any headlight application. I am glad that they are working for you in that application, let us know if you need anything else! Thanks for the support!🙏
What’s a good led for 2005 ford explore?
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What is the correct position of two sided led bulb in projector head light? Is it horizontal - meaning led chip is up and down or vertical left and rigth )
Generally you will want to have the LED chips facing left and right, so that would mean aligning it vertically!
I put them in my wife's 13 Explorer that has projector style headlights. Way better light, no blinding with same beam pattern. And I believe they are 2 sided. They were designed for the projector housings.
That's awesome, I'm glad you got something that works well in your Explorer!
Hi. Can you do a oem headlight assembly vs a cheap aftermarket headlight assembly light beam pattern?
That sounds like a great video idea, We'll keep that in mind! Thank you!
Thanks for your information. I consider the thin 2 sides LED bulb is used for the REFLECT headlight, the multi sides LED is suitable to the projector/len headlight. Am I right?
Wrong, only 2 sided bulbs regardless of the housing!
Because of this video i bought some LEDs very close to the stock footprint of a halogen bulb, similar to the SL1. They come with the resistor boxes. When i turn them on they work great. But when i crank up my truck they strobe. But once i flash my highbeams, they stop strobing and work just fine. Why is that?
That is due to your vehicles daytime running light. Unfortunately, the only LED bulb that will work with those DRLs is the Xenon Depot Xtreme LED Pro bulbs with the DRL Driver.
@@HeadlightRevolution oh wow. Ok. All research i did, i didnt see anything about that. Thank you for that. So now i can stop looking for problems lol. I was ready to send the lights back.
Not a problem at all! When you are ready to get those Xenon Depot bulbs going, let us know!💪
Hi can I use 360 LED in my fog lights?
I have 2-sided Hikari Eye of Megatron LEDs but they don't work well in my projectors, they have light missing within the beam pattern and I don't think they are bright enough. Bought a HID kit that I'm going to test next.
Let us know how it goes! Sometimes HID is still the king when it comes to beam pattern in certain headlights.
It's almost 2024, are there any updates on headlight tech? Thanks!
Maybe we can make an updated video soon! But we still only recommend 2-sided LED bulbs.
Can such 360 bulbs be used to replace Xenon bulbs though? In theory I mean. Nowadays there are plenty of really thin 360 LED bulbs which are still too big for halo get replacement, but look to be really close to HID light emitting element size wise.
Placement of the filament is always the most important!
One of the best educational videos in YT I reckon.
We really appreciate that, Thank you.
Do you put the LED 2 sided bulb on the 3:00 & 9:00 position for the best output?
Correct!
Wish I saw this before I bought my first set of LED headlights! Saw the same bad results you demonstrated - weak and unfocused light. DANGEROUS !!!
We’ve always been so surprised by how bad those bulbs can be, Very scary!
I have 360 degree in projector should I install it 3 a clock or 12 ?
We suggest 3 to 9 o clock!
Do the two-sided LED bulbs work better on projectors or reflectors? And thanks a lot for your info!
Reflectors, HID works best in projectors!
What if just single sided? Does it suitable for projector ?
Never seen that!
Why do you get 1400 max lux from the reflector headlight but only 400 max lux from the projector, when both using LED bulb upgrades?
Reflectors typically do better with LED bulbs. Projectors work best with HID.
What about the 360 bulbs on the projectors not the 3 or 4 side ones
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Its on their website, what ese do you recommend?
The S-v.4!
thx dude my father replaced original halogen to led and i was wondering why its throw is scattered, i will try to turn the led like u told in the video or else i will till myfather to get back the original halogens
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Hi ، please can u tell me which led headlight bulb is suitable for my For Flex 2015 reflector headlight,, thanks
Hello 👋 please help me... I have toyota camry 2015 give me advice which led is better for my car? Thank you
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@@HeadlightRevolution i am can't.. i live in georgia ''tbilisi" please give me advice 🙏
So if the led was all the way round and same position and size it should work in theory. So while the thin one is close and works ideally that would be best not to be confused with 3 or 4 sided ones ur discussing
With the current tech, more than 2 sided bulbs just don't work right.
@@HeadlightRevolution Totally get what your saying
This is SO important so you actually choose proper headlights for your car. Otherwise you do blind other drivers and your down road vision is seriously impaired. Great video!
Thank you for watching!