Pop-up Emitter or Drain Basin? Which One Works Best for Discharge?
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- Pop-up Emitter or Drain Basin? Which One Works Best for Discharge?
I want to talk about the most important thing to any drainage system - the discharge. The problem is with vegetation like our grass is usually what does a system in. I see so many flooded yards over the discharge. So let's talk about all the different ways of discharging your roof runoff system.
Whatever your drainage situation is, if you're taking it to a a grassy swale or ditch ,you really have to watch how you go about daylighting.
Years ago I really just kind of gave up on the pop-up because the grass grew over it so quick. So we went to just putting in speedy basins. Then we got a lot of complaints about the smell. These basins hold a lot of water. That's the beauty about the pop-up emitter. It doesn't hold very much water. We always drill a few holes when we put them in and that way they can just leach that little bit of water that's in a pop-up emitter. But what about the grass growing over the pop up emitter?
We now have a turf restrictor plate that prevents grass from growing over the top of where the system daylights.
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Installed an under sidewalk gutter with your pop up emiter. Works flawlessly in Minnesota love it. Thank you!
Thats the answer i was looking for..you drill a few holes in the bottom. I live in colorado mostly dry climate and i have a short 6 ft run. So i dont need a long knife cut. I dont have room for it and its all rocks. So no issue with grass growing over. Thanks.
Exactly the content I need. Thanks!!! Placing order really soon. From central KY
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When I used a pop-up, the problem was the guys mowing the lawn. When they went over the pop-up, the blades created a partial vacuum, raising the center which was then eaten by the blades.
Your pop-up emitter was installed to high.
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@@FRENCHDRAINMAN to high? What does that mean? Or did you intend to say "too high?"
Thanks
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@8:00 you called those weeds ‘grass’!🤣🤣
Get some herbicide on that ‘grass’ and now we have turf grass! 🤓
Having a home built and I need some of your products from the down spout to the edges of the lawn for proper drainage. 😁
Have been watching your channel for years now and I like the ‘how’ you show and explain the ‘why’ as well.
You should patent the idea if you didn't already! Turf restrictor plate is a great idea.
Good points concerning the downside of a basin. Unfortunately, I'm dealing with extreme water flow and not sure if pop ups can handle the flow without backing up. The amount of water I'm trying to divert during a heavy down pour is about 12 feet wide by three to four inches deep, which runs through a back yard swale. The heavy flow dissipates about 30 minutes after the rain stops. My plan is to install two 4" x 10' corragated pipes (side by side) at entry covered by cobblestone with a solid corragated run of about 50' to discharge point. I'm far from an expert and would appreciate feedback.
We use our 20 inch round Basin for jobs like yours
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I still like the 9x9 & 12x12 drain basins for an outlet, however, on a house I built 4 years ago, the lawn guy let the grass grow completely over it (downspouts hard piped with 4” schedule 40 PVC due to potential vehicle traffic). A Maple tree was 20’ away from the outlet basin. An explorer/ feeder root found its way to the basin / grate (covered by the grass), it turned on a 90 degree, made another 90 sideways and into the inlet pipe, growing towards the first downspout, which on most mornings even without rain, would drip a certain amount of water into the trunk line. The 1-1/4 to 1-1/2” diameter root broke the grate and grew 40+ feet through the pipe towards the house. I was certainly happy we hard piped it, because once we got the basin out and its adapter off, the root had nothing to grab onto and it pulled straight out in one piece. I took pictures and the owner who was up north at his primary home, couldn’t believe it. Needless to say… a new lawn man soon appeared. 😂
That's why you need a pop-up emitter. Tree roots can't get inside.
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@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Not quite. It more accurately suggests to keep the basin drains / grates free of grass / weeds and debris. I stopped using pop-ups BC of their inherent design / functionality issues. IMO, both have trade offs. ✌️
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I am installing a drain system this weekend. What about just the bare tube sticking out the side of a sloped lawn? I have a 3-4 foot slope at the back of my garage. I was planning to just have the tube stick out the back. Basically at the bottom of a garden on a hill.
I was going to screw on a grate to keep animals out. And I suppose every so often I'll have to take the grate off to let leaves and sticks out.
We can put a turf restrictor Plate on a 22.5 degree elbow just tell the office I said we would do it.
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Smells? Holding water? Cut the bottom out of a catch basin and place it over about a foot of 1 inch rock if the soil won’t drain. Worked very well for me.
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Great info and video!! so sir, between my house and my neighbors house there’s a low spot and that water is running in my yard and I need to get it from rolling in my yard and get it into some type of drainage system down to the street it’s about 50 feet maybe 60 feet of pipe how should I do this? With your materials? Thank you.
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FDM I just ordered your standard buried downspout kit. I'm a little confused as to whether to tape the end cone to the dual wall or not. Your intro video for your kits mentions taping the ends and in this video it's removed for maintenance. Do you recommend taping the joint and drilling holes for drainage?? Thanks
We only tape up by the house. The clean out vent should be taped so no water leaks at the house. The pop up doesn't get taped
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN thanks for the reply!
I've been binge watching your channel for 2 weeks now for my project but why are the owners' MAD about them not mowing and trimming around your install!!! Lol
We just roll with it.
Thanks for posting this. How would someone in the northeast solve the problem of snow (i.e. 1-2 feet) covering the pop-up emitter? I assume it's just digging it out, but curious if you have any advice.
Put a bucket over it before it starts snowing. Pin the bucket handle to the sod with landscaping staple things.
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Hello. Dekalb Illinois area. Want to install some wye downspout adapters for 3 gutters up front connected to heavy duty pipes you supply. My question is can I bring all 3 gutters into one line using your Y corrugated adapters, then hose into a cleanup bassin,then hose continued down to final pop-up V2 emitter?
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Also, thoughts on using a the double wall black solid instead of the blue/yellow for costs?
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I have a 12x12 "petri dish" catch basin as my emitter at the end of a system that moves a lot of water. The pipes going into are pretty deep down there, so not sure if it would be practical to use a pop-up. It is surrounded by rocks at the moment. Would you recommend drilling some holes in the bottom to let it drain? We have sandy Florida soil. Is there a way to install a popup emitter into that existing box? It would be interesting to have some kind of an adapter to fill the box with a pop up emitter.
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Yes drill holes the Florida sand will drink it up!
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Thank you for replying!! I drilled about 16 1/8in holes, filled it up with water, and this morning it has drained about half way! The mosquitos are going to have to find somewhere else to hang out! Thanks again
Do I need to add a D box with your new emitter that has the catch basin? Also how deep do I B
Bury the line? I live in North IL
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I am interested in acquiring two grass restricter plates for a downspout drainage with popup emitter. Can you tell me where to get the grass restricter plates?
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So have you tried slots? I see holes being drilled for many purposes, in this case water drainage. I have used a coal fired forge for many years and the best design to prevent restriction of air flow is to use slots. Holes allow detritus collect around edge and squeeze closed, seldom does that happen on a slot. My guess is a slot has 2 sides which won't support the other.
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I used a PVC DWV Sanitary Tee with the grate like the catch basin as a top and filled the hole with pea gravel so no standing water.
The grate will not allow leaves or sticks to clear and it will clog. I wouldn't advise doing that.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN didn't think of that, thanks.
So I need to get my sump discharge away from the house. Is it better to use the corrugated or straight walled PVC? Do I then just use the fabric at the end with stone on top of fabric and pipe on the stone. Seems that your pop up with turf plate will be what I want also.
There are so many scenarios that I'll just start here so that you have some video for some thought.
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Can you use a pop up emiter with the slotted top to catch water and direct it instead of a catch basin?
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I have about a 400feet from driveway to a ditch behind me and there's a warehouse complex on the other side of the ditch I don't want to just dump the water into the ditch feer it's going to erode their parking lot away can we set up a time and date to show you what I want to do and get some professional advice for the problem we have
We offer consulting packages. They will open up next week
Any idea why these flap emitters are not sold in stores in Texas? I can only find them on Amazon.
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We try to keep it interesting. 💯
Hi!, Is the 4" pipe size turf restrictor plate popup available at the CANADIAN French Drain Man location?
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We just got underground pipes installed and the discharge area keeps clogging with tiny petals. We do not currently have a pop up emitter. Its a grate. Does a pop up emitter allow smaller debris to pass through more easily?
Yes
You need our pop-up emitter that you can get you hand down inside. Grate is terrible.
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That 90 on those pop ups dont look deep enough to reach the drainage in the ground and come above the yard linr?
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What about heavy snow how do they work I live in Colorado?
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Use non-spreading tall fescue and maintain with a string trimmer.
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With that elbow so close to the pop-up, wont that be a problem for any grass you're trying to grow above the pipe?
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Can I use an emitter on a slope / hill?
Only this one. It's already sloped. It's NOT QUITE A 90°
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How do I find someone like you in Wisconsin?
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How deep can a pop Emitter go?
You need to keep it shallow
Why couldn't you just add holes to the catch basins?
How well does water leach in clay?
Basin hold a lot water.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN clear out a foot of the clay and replace with pond rocks. Unless the remaining clay is about as permeable as rock itself. But it keeps water out of the basin.