I use a Griego Deco 2 on my 822G, no problems, just the cup tires me out. I go back to a Yamaha 59G, feel the same (rim) but just a bit shallower. I use either/or depending on what is needed. I played on a 612, that also "swallows" the mouthpiece, but never really hampered my playing. The new Yamaha 835 does not swallow the mouthpiece, they changed it to more "traditional" depth that is the most common.
Yep, the mouthpiece engagement on the Yamaha basses was quite particular for a while. Some pieces work fine/are unaffected, while others can be quite affected. I'm a fan of the Hecht 1.5 O as an alternative to the Classic, Markey, GP, etc. for more endurance (and more Trombone 3 type parts). It's really a bit more like a 2 in size than a 1.5 iirc.
engagement: Playing a Yamaha Xeno 822g, I've finally found out why I struggle with the upper register. Something you know about, but I didn't. Yamaha lead pipes swallow non-Yamaha mouthpieces, even the Griego Markey mouthpieces (82, 85, 87 & 90) I have. I've had to resort to using tape at the end of the mouthpiece so that they only now insert 2.5 - 2.6cm into the lead pipe. Now I have much less problems with endurance and uniformity of sound up to high b-flat. The mouthpiece doesn't rock in the receiver. The only problem is, occasionally the tape comes off the mouthpiece and sticks in the lead pipe. If I don't notice this immediately, the next mouthpiece I insert, may shove the piece of tape down the pipe. I've had to take the instrument apart a couple of times and fished out bits of tape from even the valves. I'm tired of this, so am going to try out a Shires Custom and a Yamaha 835 (that doesn't have this problem anymore).
I use a Griego Deco 2 on my 822G, no problems, just the cup tires me out. I go back to a Yamaha 59G, feel the same (rim) but just a bit shallower. I use either/or depending on what is needed. I played on a 612, that also "swallows" the mouthpiece, but never really hampered my playing. The new Yamaha 835 does not swallow the mouthpiece, they changed it to more "traditional" depth that is the most common.
Yep, the mouthpiece engagement on the Yamaha basses was quite particular for a while. Some pieces work fine/are unaffected, while others can be quite affected.
I'm a fan of the Hecht 1.5 O as an alternative to the Classic, Markey, GP, etc. for more endurance (and more Trombone 3 type parts). It's really a bit more like a 2 in size than a 1.5 iirc.
engagement: Playing a Yamaha Xeno 822g, I've finally found out why I struggle with the upper register. Something you know about, but I didn't. Yamaha lead pipes swallow non-Yamaha mouthpieces, even the Griego Markey mouthpieces (82, 85, 87 & 90) I have. I've had to resort to using tape at the end of the mouthpiece so that they only now insert 2.5 - 2.6cm into the lead pipe. Now I have much less problems with endurance and uniformity of sound up to high b-flat. The mouthpiece doesn't rock in the receiver. The only problem is, occasionally the tape comes off the mouthpiece and sticks in the lead pipe. If I don't notice this immediately, the next mouthpiece I insert, may shove the piece of tape down the pipe. I've had to take the instrument apart a couple of times and fished out bits of tape from even the valves. I'm tired of this, so am going to try out a Shires Custom and a Yamaha 835 (that doesn't have this problem anymore).
If you're able, bring the horn by our store and our technicians may be able to adjust the leadpipe!
@@VirtuosityMusicalInstruments - LOL. Thanks, but a got a good deal trading it in for a new Shires.