Bam is an irregular. An Irregular is someone from OUTSIDE the tower. That is chosen by the tower itself. They are also referred to as "People who opened the door to the tower themselves." A regular is someone who lives in the tower who is grabbed from inside the tower by Headon and placed on the 2nd floor to start the testing. Headon is basically saying Baam is the irregular chosen by the tower itself and not her. The anime does an extremely poor job of explaining this.
I understand your confusion on whether Bam is an irregular or not 😂 The anime made it a lot more confusing by using the word “chosen”, it makes way more sense in the Webtoon. But yeah, Bam & Rachel are both Irregulars. The only difference though, is that Bam was the one who forced the Tower door open, not Rachel. She just went through along with Bam, so she’s technically more of an anomaly than Bam and the other irregulars (which you haven’t seen yet) but not in a way where she’s more special than them though cuz as Headon said, she’s weak. She wouldn’t have been able to enter the Tower if Bam wasn’t there to open the door.
@@roverlimao1944 Because of Baam’s mother, Rachel is just a trash who uses others for her own benefit. She has more plot armor than the protagonist; otherwise, she would have been dead long ago.
@@wesleybrasil2693yeah and shes the authors favorite character 😭 if this series ends i wouldnt be suprised if the creator gave rachel a happy ending which she doesnt deserve.
Yes. Rankers have already climbed the tower. Le Ro Ro has already climbed. What he means by he is climbing to find answers is that he is going back up the floors to figure out what is going on. Rankers can technically go to any floor they want though it takes time. They also can't interfere with the regular tests which is why Yuri had to sneak in.
Spoiler alert: To be more precise rankers have already climbed to the point where other top rankers have reached. Normally where jahad is. But they havent gone beyond that so no one really knows how mamy floors there are Jahad himself hasnt really climbed to the TOP of the tower. Anyone can keep climbing,even jahad himself. I dont really know the limit of some rankers and where did leroro make it because I have t read the manwha If im not mistaken jahad has reached up to the 135th floor.
@@amukbir8777 you should have given a spoiler warning for the previous part especially i think. Or did i misunderstood it from the start? Spoiler I thought he has stopped climbing the tower but claimed to have reached the top. So Lero Ro said he climed to where Jahad was which may technically not be a lie but from the previous information it would imply that he had reached the very top. Though that would also mean that any ranker knows about the conspiracy thats going on or is the ranker title given to them earlier by lower standards? I cant really remember.
@@TheMadLex Spoilers: The thing is that “the top” of the tower for everyone is where Jahad is, and although I don’t think all the rankers know the fact that the tower continues after floor… 135th ( where Jahad is ), the actual top-top is after such floor but the king and the heads of the 10 great families blocked the way, so all the rankers are people that have reached the “””top””” of the tower meaning 135th and meet the king. When Leroro (a ranker) says he is going to climb the tower to get answers he just means exactly that bc Im sure rankers have free access to all floors at that point in their lives.
@@jhoantf10 even tho i knew all of what you mentioned already you did blow my mind. I didnt consider that "the top of the tower" may be referencing the top floor, not the very top. In my imagination i can see people clearing the top floor and then ascending a staircase or whatever, then stay at the roof and then getting granted their wish. In that case its kinda easy to tell that you reached the top. Watching over the world, looking down the edge, maybe even meeting god there on the roof. Thats how i thought it would be. But sure, from their perspective, just like dungeons in videogames, you can clear the last floor and thats it, as long as you think that was the last floor it wont seem odd to you. Now theres one thing left: the wish. Was the wish just from the trailer or is it really how the tower is "advertised" in the world? Or will jahad or the administrator just grant a wish with the power of shinsu? Cause if not the rankers would still know that they havent received their promised wish
@@TheMadLex I imagine the wish is quite real as long as it is in Jahad's reach Spoilers: So that you have an idea Urek obtained ownership of floor 77 (Worlkhaisong's headquarters) when he arrived and fought Arie Han at the 100 floor so idk what's the craziest thing a person can ask him for like they don't need immortality at that point because they have shinsu and that makes them ageless maybe money and we know Jahad as King of the Tower can satisfy that if they ask for Money, the same with fame or anything like that, the problem would arrive if you ask him for something he doesn't to give let's say the ability to kill Jahad or the 10 great families or the ability to climb further up the tower (in either case I imagine he just kills you right there or something like bruh), or maybe in the case you want to own a whole floor you may be ask to take a Jahad's test to proof you are worthy in case he owns it (which is most likely because he "owns" most of them 135 and below) or if any of the other great families or anyone else owns it he may send you to them to ask for it yourself. Lastly we know because of Po Bidau Gustand abilities (Head of the Po Bidau family) that even genetics/Biology stuff like you ask for example all the individuals of a floor to have their memories wipe they could do it (Gustand asked Urek if he wanted him to erased everyones memory on the Floor of Death-43rd) and if they can do that I have not doubt if you ask Jahad "I want everyone in my family to turn into a girl" and Jahad would be like "It is done". Conclusion Jahad and Family Heads are like God.
Also, all Rankers have climbed to the top of the Tower already but what Lero Ro meant by “climbing the tower” he just simply meant going back up. The Rankers can go up and down the Tower whenever they want, they just aren’t allowed to interfere with the Regulars and tests on each floor
@@julianr8544 @julianr8544 in case you want to get spoiled and want to see some animations of season2+, theres a game about this webtoon and there's animation of some of the future arcs. (Dont click the link if you want to wait for anime s2) Here's some example {or just search tower of god game animations on youtube}: th-cam.com/video/Nef_hxj1s8k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mr2b6x1VRyltAF3O
one thing the anime did was they made baam way more hopeful at the end and gave him agency. in the webtoon he was depressed as hell and had a mental breakdown. ToG is one of my favorite works as an anime adaption. I would give it like a 7.5/10 they skipped a bunch of thing in regards to explaining how the power system and shinsu works i wont bore you with the details there are plenty of videos that explain what the anime missed that would be helpful to watch before season 2 if you guys are interested. when lero ro says climb the tower he doesnt mean starting over and becoming a ranker, climbing the tower in this case is just a metaphor for seeking answers in the tower. one thing they did skip was endorsi crush on baam and a bunch of their dynamic during these set of tests. she took baams "death" harder than the anime showed
As a webtoon reader, the change made to his outlook will lead to weird changes in season 2 I bet. In my opinion, that change is the biggest flaw in the adaptation because I feel that it dramatically changes the tone with a certain group (won't name or explain because spoilers).
> one thing they did skip was endorsi crush on baam and a bunch of their dynamic during these set of tests. whelp, guess im reading the webtoon tonight
@@jiv3o275 If you're going to read it, Start from beginning there are a lot of details left in anime that are important for future. And also art style may look bad in season 1 of webtoon but SIU is one of the artist that grows really well. You will be astonished by the art difference between season 1 and and mid of season 2 of webtoon.
Lol I didn't even see this before I commented. These two things are literally my biggest disappointments with the adaptation. So sad. Hopefully, they can fix it somehow it S2.
Rachel isn't a Regular, because she wasn't selected and brought from the Outer Tower area to the Inner Tower. But she also doesn't fit what little we know so far about Irregulars either. She's kind of an irregular among Irregulars ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some characters you love to hate. Other you understand but hate. Then there's Rachel...
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11:28 the OST and voice acting here! So chilling! Rachel is really desperate to find those stars, whatever they now are (literal stars or something else)
Ok, I don't know if any of you will ever read this. But, now that were done with the first season I want to include or...expand on some information that was left out of the anime. All of this is info that you would have by this point if you read the webtoon. The author of the Webtoon absolutely loves his story building and lore. Which is why so many people are in love with it. Unfortunately the anime changed, left out, or mistranslated a lot of it. Which would be fine in most anime, but since ToG is so intricate these changes or omissions kind of have a big impact later on. It's been a while since I read the first season so if anyone has anything to add or corrections that are strictly specific to the first season, go ahead. I don't think any of this is a spoiler at all, but I'll still leave some space incase you want to keep the anime and the webtoons separate. 1. At the end of the first season Bam is absolutely broken. He isn't ready to clime the tower to find out why this happened or anything like that. He is done, depressed, betrayed, and lonely. 2. In the Webtoon, Endorsi and Bam spend a lot of time together training, I mean A LOT. Not counting Kun, he probably spends the most time with Endorsi. She sees Bam as the opposite of her and she absolutely adores him for that reason. 3. They do a horrible job at explaining regulars vs rankers vs irregulars in the anime, then they make it more confusing by constantly switching up the language they use to describe them and not clarifying anything. Irregulars come from outside the tower as a whole. They forced their way into the tower. Regulars are born inside of the tower and are chosen to have an opportunity to climb the tower. Rankers have already climbed the tower. They are free to go between floors as they please, with some exceptions. Also, the weakest of Rankers could kill the strongest of Regulars with ease it's not even almost a little bit close. Red haired guy was basically nerfing himself as much as he possibly could for the test and the rice ball guy is sadistic AF and wanted to give the princesses hope. 4. Lero Ro kind of explained the structure of the tower but I just want to reiterate. The tower is made up of multiple floors and each floor is made of 3 sections. An outer tower, middle tower, inner tower. The outer tower is where most of the people live and they are generally ignorant to the workings of the inner tower. The middle tower basically serves to connect the outer and inner towers. And the inner tower is where the tests take place and generally where the story takes place. This isn't exact but you can think of the inner tower sort of as a lifeline that connects the floors together. 5. Most of these characters are much much much much older than you think. 100's of years old in some cases. Time moves very differently in the tower. If you wanna have some fun you can go through the Wiki and check out their ages. 6. Bam (Baam in the webtoon) has 2 meanings in Korean, chestnut and night. In the anime everyone calls him adorable or good looking or something like that. But in the Webtoon this was in reference to his name meaning chestnut, he looked delicious, its kind of play on words. It also give a double meaning to Rachel when she says she's scared of the night. It could mean she's scared of the dark and therefore wants starlight to illuminate it, or, it could mean she's scared of Bam. 7. If anyone else has anything to add please do so, but please keep it specific to knowledge they would have at the end of the first season. I know I'm missing a lot, but I'm not trying to write a book over here.
A month late since I'm not a member and someone already did a great explanation about the whole irregular thing, but a few things i wanna mention to make it easier to understand. Regular : People who got chosen by Headon to enter the Tower Irregular : Not chosen by Headon, but instead got chosen by the Tower itself Rachel : Weird anomaly as she entered the tower purely by coincidence
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So, funny story. When I first watched tower of god (and hadn’t read the webtoon then either) I for some reason thought the first season had only 12 episodes. Many animes do have 12 or 24 episodes. So I saw the previous episode and thought “wow, that’s quite a cliffhanger to end on”. Like months later I learned there was this episode 13 which…explains a bit more. 😂 Especially with Rachel. So yeah, the season did end with quite a cliffhanger, but not the one I thought at first 😅
Bam is an irregular and he opened the door to the tower twice, the first time rachel was there so she went through it instead and then he opened it again
There's a *floor* admin per floor (each w/ random looks). They set ground rules of tests (& give green/red light to *test* admin's schemes). Also, control all shinsu there. Irregulars are intruders, they ain't bound by an admin's "shackles". Admins r only active if smth big is going on their turf. Headon's prolly the most active, bc he's at the door.
So, little recap: Headon, Coffee Turtle and the Red Haired Navigator all seem to be in the same boat, or at the very least they all knew what was going on with Rachel and actively provided opportunities for her to end Bam. With that said, at the end the Navigator is spurring Bam on to train and climb, so what really was their goal? You'll need to keep watching and eventually you'll find out! What ended Ho was also not Khun's message but that of the red-haired Navigator (whose name is Hwaryun). As for your irregular question: Bam still is an irregular. He was the one who forced the door open, and Rachel kinda went through that door first. I believe we can think of both as irregulars, but Rachel didn't have the strength to open the door by herself. She shouldn't have ended up in the tower. They are also the two people who supposedly came from another world, which makes them irregular even for irregulars.
Rachel is fascinating. She gets the chance of a lifetime by being pulled into the tower accidentally with Bam but is so narcissistic she sees it as a slight it wasn’t her that was chosen. Then when given the opportunity to climb the tower by merely asking she refuses to do it because it’s ‘too hard’. And then when given ANOTHER opportunity she asks for a crutch. She wants to be innately special and popular without doing any work. She wants to be how she thinks Bam is.
Apparently in the Manwha Rachel struggled a lot less than she did in the anime, so I've heard (only started reading from where the anime ended, I'll need to also read the early part at some point)
@@barron30 First, it's an anime only dialogue scene. In the webtoon we don't hear the deal with Rachel. It's only implied that he wanted Rachel to betray Bam.
There are 2 main things I was upset they changed or skipped in the anime adaption. These aren't SPOILERS technically as they would have happened at this point, but I'll put them further down just in case you dont want to know still. 1. In addition to Endorsi being jealous that Rachel is allowed to love, she actually begins to fall for Bam. Nothing more than the early stages of a crush, but they removed that entirely, which fails to fully display Endorsi's character as well as her growing relationship with Bam. 2. Bam is not determined to go on after Rachel pushes him. He is absolutely devistated, his will is completely broken, and he wants to give up. Hwaryun ends up convincing him to move on despite his feelings, and he reluctantly agrees as he doesn't know what else to do but climb the tower. I dont know why they decided to change his characterization in this scene. It was very weird.
It was pretty fun seeing you all react to this series! In my opinion, this adaptation didn't really hit the mark for me. There were a lot of details skipped, and some changes I didn't like. The biggest flaw for me was Bam's outlook at the end. In the source material he was so hurt and broken from the betrayal, he didn't want to climb the tower. In the adaptation, they made him hopeful and looking forward to climbing the tower. The change is bad because Bam never really cared about the tower at this point. His only reason for being there was to be with Rachel, so it makes more sense for him to not want to climb because he was betrayed by the person that was the reason for him to climb. Another thing that may have hurt the adaptation was that because a Japanese person was directing this adaptation of a Korean work, a lot of liberties have been taken to "Japanify" the series making it more digestible for the Japanese audience. I'll still watch second season, but idk if I will watch further seasons of the adaptation. It depends if they pull it off for me.
Ok, end of the season, two things missing: I mentioned earlier that there was a missing conversation earlier in the season, which was Bam promising Endorsi a date, so they're kind of an item in that they have a date pending; the second is from this section of the manhwa, Rachel says to Hwaryun that she's "scared of the night," alluding to Bam. Important takeaways... Other than maybe Headon, none of the key players appear in this season, with most of the story effectively being controlled from off-screen. Yu Hansung is clearly working for someone else and lied about serving Jahad, Hwaryun works for the same people (evident through their actions this season); Lo Po Bia Ren works for Jahad, the royal faction; Yuri gives Shibisu and friends the icon of a faction that she belongs to; and it's unknown if Headon is the head of a faction of just part of one, but the only time he has direct involvement is when he gives Bam the initial test. Pieces fall into place with so little. Headon and Yu Hansung could've used force to get Bam where they wanted, but all they had to do was speak; even the administrator was just a tool
So do I man! It annoys me so much seeing people trying to justify or to lighten the weight of her actions and kind of wait for a Rachel's redemption arc. If that ever happens it will be a big turn down for me. I mean, that character shouldn't be allowed to get a happy ending, she's way beyond that point.
Regulars are choosen by Hadon (the weird rabbit dude) inside the tower, irregulars are choosen by the tower outside the tower, Bam is an irregular because the tower chose him. Rachel ended up in the tower by mistake because she was close phisically close to Bam in that moment, so techically, she's an irregular irregular Also Hadon (and so Rachel) clearly wanted to kill him, but the blonde dude and the girl with red hair just wanted to make everyone believe he was dead
I think if Headon truly wanted Bam dead, it would be done already. Even with Yuri's interference, Bam wouldn't even have made it out of the first floor. Idk if Headon wanted to push Bam, Rachel, or both of them onto a certain path though.
God I love Rachel. Was a stroke of brilliance to make a background npc into an MC and pair her up with a typical chosen one MC. Rachel is a reflection of the greed of humans with their jealousy and envy of what others have. You see it all the time on social media with people hating on those more successful than them. But also you can sorta understand where she's coming from since bam really does seem to just have MC privileges with his hidden potential. Like people bitching about those who are born with rich parents.
I love this episode. Throughout this whole season we've been wondering what's up with Rachel? Why is she acting so cold towards Bam? Why does it seem like she's distancing herself but also somewhat cares? And then this episode put it all into place. Dislike Rachel for what she did. But I'm also interested in her story going forward. But more than that, I want to see Khun and Bam eventually reunite. Love their dynamic
Rachel is a character that pretty much the entire fanbase hates. But much of the fansbase likes her as a character because she is written very well. To succussfully write a character that readers/viewers hate but is interesting is an achievement by the author.
Worst thing is that she didn't even hesitate because of empathy or any shit like that. It was because he was the only one that treated her as important as she wants to become. oh and what kuhn meant was that if she wasn't the first person he ever met and the only one he remembers ever thenshe wouldn't have meant half as much to Bam as she did now
This always reminds me of how much I loved my ex and how losing me literally meant nothing to her at all. I changed her contact info in my phone to "Rachel" as a constant reminder that she's a backstab waiting to happen all over again.
Theyre both irregulars, because they were both outside the tower. But in the first episode, the tower brought her in by mistake, because she was next to him? maybe. At least thats how I understood it.
spilers to early s2 ahead !! oh my god! season 1 to season 2 has time skip of Five years! did we all had to wait real 5 years for season 2? :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
"what they want with him?" you clearly missed how special irregular is... think of the greatest human being that lived in history and imagine we find he'll reincarnet to newborn baby... with the potential of the greatest minds, abuilities and fits... everyone will sell their left nut to have anything to do with the newborn messiah fate and success just imagine how in our world we would put all our problems and expectations in our new messiah to deal with them. thats why irregular so special
Rachel did nothing wrong. It's sad, you can see the language Headon used to break her, then give her 1 door. She took the option, but never had any real intention to kill Bam she just wanted a chance to climb the tower. You can see how whenever she was ready to give up, Hwa Ryun or Hansung Yu helped reinforce the will over her. She was a pawn used for their purpose. And in the end, she is climbing the tower.
The time skip in the story between S1 and S2 is the literal time difference IRL till S2 is released. Just shows how they are trying to make this anime absolutely legit and true to the source, unlike all the other webtoon adaptations which just do 10 years time skip in story but s2 comes a year later IRL
That's just dumb lol, so for a 10 year time skip we'll have to wait 10 years in real life, for not even a peak tier animation lol, and let's be real the anime didn't do the manhwa justice on so many aspects, the music was fire tho.
Yeah I love Rachel as a character. Like obviously she's awful, but she's also so human. She's just a weak person both physically and mentally whose ambitions and ego don't reflect reality, like so many people in real life. And it's fun that like compared to a lot of anime villains she's one of the objectively least evil, but it feels so much worse because it's such a petty personal grudge.
Bam is an irregular.
An Irregular is someone from OUTSIDE the tower. That is chosen by the tower itself. They are also referred to as "People who opened the door to the tower themselves."
A regular is someone who lives in the tower who is grabbed from inside the tower by Headon and placed on the 2nd floor to start the testing.
Headon is basically saying Baam is the irregular chosen by the tower itself and not her.
The anime does an extremely poor job of explaining this.
I understand your confusion on whether Bam is an irregular or not 😂 The anime made it a lot more confusing by using the word “chosen”, it makes way more sense in the Webtoon. But yeah, Bam & Rachel are both Irregulars. The only difference though, is that Bam was the one who forced the Tower door open, not Rachel. She just went through along with Bam, so she’s technically more of an anomaly than Bam and the other irregulars (which you haven’t seen yet) but not in a way where she’s more special than them though cuz as Headon said, she’s weak. She wouldn’t have been able to enter the Tower if Bam wasn’t there to open the door.
Exactly
oh don't worry.
that's an OOOOLD debate, questioning their irregular status
But maybe she is special too, otherwise why she is the only one with baam in that place
@@roverlimao1944 Because of Baam’s mother, Rachel is just a trash who uses others for her own benefit. She has more plot armor than the protagonist; otherwise, she would have been dead long ago.
@@wesleybrasil2693yeah and shes the authors favorite character 😭 if this series ends i wouldnt be suprised if the creator gave rachel a happy ending which she doesnt deserve.
Yes. Rankers have already climbed the tower. Le Ro Ro has already climbed. What he means by he is climbing to find answers is that he is going back up the floors to figure out what is going on.
Rankers can technically go to any floor they want though it takes time. They also can't interfere with the regular tests which is why Yuri had to sneak in.
Spoiler alert:
To be more precise rankers have already climbed to the point where other top rankers have reached. Normally where jahad is. But they havent gone beyond that so no one really knows how mamy floors there are
Jahad himself hasnt really climbed to the TOP of the tower.
Anyone can keep climbing,even jahad himself.
I dont really know the limit of some rankers and where did leroro make it because I have t read the manwha
If im not mistaken jahad has reached up to the 135th floor.
@@amukbir8777 you should have given a spoiler warning for the previous part especially i think. Or did i misunderstood it from the start?
Spoiler
I thought he has stopped climbing the tower but claimed to have reached the top. So Lero Ro said he climed to where Jahad was which may technically not be a lie but from the previous information it would imply that he had reached the very top. Though that would also mean that any ranker knows about the conspiracy thats going on or is the ranker title given to them earlier by lower standards? I cant really remember.
@@TheMadLex Spoilers:
The thing is that “the top” of the tower for everyone is where Jahad is, and although I don’t think all the rankers know the fact that the tower continues after floor… 135th ( where Jahad is ), the actual top-top is after such floor but the king and the heads of the 10 great families blocked the way, so all the rankers are people that have reached the “””top””” of the tower meaning 135th and meet the king. When Leroro (a ranker) says he is going to climb the tower to get answers he just means exactly that bc Im sure rankers have free access to all floors at that point in their lives.
@@jhoantf10 even tho i knew all of what you mentioned already you did blow my mind. I didnt consider that "the top of the tower" may be referencing the top floor, not the very top. In my imagination i can see people clearing the top floor and then ascending a staircase or whatever, then stay at the roof and then getting granted their wish. In that case its kinda easy to tell that you reached the top. Watching over the world, looking down the edge, maybe even meeting god there on the roof. Thats how i thought it would be. But sure, from their perspective, just like dungeons in videogames, you can clear the last floor and thats it, as long as you think that was the last floor it wont seem odd to you.
Now theres one thing left: the wish. Was the wish just from the trailer or is it really how the tower is "advertised" in the world? Or will jahad or the administrator just grant a wish with the power of shinsu? Cause if not the rankers would still know that they havent received their promised wish
@@TheMadLex I imagine the wish is quite real as long as it is in Jahad's reach
Spoilers:
So that you have an idea Urek obtained ownership of floor 77 (Worlkhaisong's headquarters) when he arrived and fought Arie Han at the 100 floor so idk what's the craziest thing a person can ask him for like they don't need immortality at that point because they have shinsu and that makes them ageless maybe money and we know Jahad as King of the Tower can satisfy that if they ask for Money, the same with fame or anything like that, the problem would arrive if you ask him for something he doesn't to give let's say the ability to kill Jahad or the 10 great families or the ability to climb further up the tower (in either case I imagine he just kills you right there or something like bruh), or maybe in the case you want to own a whole floor you may be ask to take a Jahad's test to proof you are worthy in case he owns it (which is most likely because he "owns" most of them 135 and below) or if any of the other great families or anyone else owns it he may send you to them to ask for it yourself. Lastly we know because of Po Bidau Gustand abilities (Head of the Po Bidau family) that even genetics/Biology stuff like you ask for example all the individuals of a floor to have their memories wipe they could do it (Gustand asked Urek if he wanted him to erased everyones memory on the Floor of Death-43rd) and if they can do that I have not doubt if you ask Jahad "I want everyone in my family to turn into a girl" and Jahad would be like "It is done". Conclusion Jahad and Family Heads are like God.
Also, all Rankers have climbed to the top of the Tower already but what Lero Ro meant by “climbing the tower” he just simply meant going back up. The Rankers can go up and down the Tower whenever they want, they just aren’t allowed to interfere with the Regulars and tests on each floor
Longer hair on Bam...you just know he's now a badass. Love it.
Is long hair all it takes😅?
I can’t even tell you how hyped I am for season 2. I held on to hope that we’d get to see him animated and now it’s only months away.
@@julianr8544 @julianr8544 in case you want to get spoiled and want to see some animations of season2+, theres a game about this webtoon and there's animation of some of the future arcs. (Dont click the link if you want to wait for anime s2) Here's some example {or just search tower of god game animations on youtube}:
th-cam.com/video/Nef_hxj1s8k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mr2b6x1VRyltAF3O
@@julianr8544is it coming this year?
@@lbk66it comes in july
one thing the anime did was they made baam way more hopeful at the end and gave him agency. in the webtoon he was depressed as hell and had a mental breakdown.
ToG is one of my favorite works as an anime adaption. I would give it like a 7.5/10 they skipped a bunch of thing in regards to explaining how the power system and shinsu works i wont bore you with the details there are plenty of videos that explain what the anime missed that would be helpful to watch before season 2 if you guys are interested. when lero ro says climb the tower he doesnt mean starting over and becoming a ranker, climbing the tower in this case is just a metaphor for seeking answers in the tower. one thing they did skip was endorsi crush on baam and a bunch of their dynamic during these set of tests. she took baams "death" harder than the anime showed
As a webtoon reader, the change made to his outlook will lead to weird changes in season 2 I bet. In my opinion, that change is the biggest flaw in the adaptation because I feel that it dramatically changes the tone with a certain group (won't name or explain because spoilers).
> one thing they did skip was endorsi crush on baam and a bunch of their dynamic during these set of tests.
whelp, guess im reading the webtoon tonight
@@jiv3o275 If you're going to read it, Start from beginning there are a lot of details left in anime that are important for future. And also art style may look bad in season 1 of webtoon but SIU is one of the artist that grows really well. You will be astonished by the art difference between season 1 and and mid of season 2 of webtoon.
Lol I didn't even see this before I commented. These two things are literally my biggest disappointments with the adaptation. So sad. Hopefully, they can fix it somehow it S2.
Rachel isn't a Regular, because she wasn't selected and brought from the Outer Tower area to the Inner Tower.
But she also doesn't fit what little we know so far about Irregulars either. She's kind of an irregular among Irregulars ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Some characters you love to hate. Other you understand but hate. Then there's Rachel...
11:28 the OST and voice acting here! So chilling!
Rachel is really desperate to find those stars, whatever they now are (literal stars or something else)
But not desperate enough to face the White Steel Eel. Bam had more determination to reach his goal than her.
Ok, I don't know if any of you will ever read this. But, now that were done with the first season I want to include or...expand on some information that was left out of the anime. All of this is info that you would have by this point if you read the webtoon. The author of the Webtoon absolutely loves his story building and lore. Which is why so many people are in love with it. Unfortunately the anime changed, left out, or mistranslated a lot of it. Which would be fine in most anime, but since ToG is so intricate these changes or omissions kind of have a big impact later on.
It's been a while since I read the first season so if anyone has anything to add or corrections that are strictly specific to the first season, go ahead. I don't think any of this is a spoiler at all, but I'll still leave some space incase you want to keep the anime and the webtoons separate.
1. At the end of the first season Bam is absolutely broken. He isn't ready to clime the tower to find out why this happened or anything like that. He is done, depressed, betrayed, and lonely.
2. In the Webtoon, Endorsi and Bam spend a lot of time together training, I mean A LOT. Not counting Kun, he probably spends the most time with Endorsi. She sees Bam as the opposite of her and she absolutely adores him for that reason.
3. They do a horrible job at explaining regulars vs rankers vs irregulars in the anime, then they make it more confusing by constantly switching up the language they use to describe them and not clarifying anything. Irregulars come from outside the tower as a whole. They forced their way into the tower. Regulars are born inside of the tower and are chosen to have an opportunity to climb the tower. Rankers have already climbed the tower. They are free to go between floors as they please, with some exceptions. Also, the weakest of Rankers could kill the strongest of Regulars with ease it's not even almost a little bit close. Red haired guy was basically nerfing himself as much as he possibly could for the test and the rice ball guy is sadistic AF and wanted to give the princesses hope.
4. Lero Ro kind of explained the structure of the tower but I just want to reiterate. The tower is made up of multiple floors and each floor is made of 3 sections. An outer tower, middle tower, inner tower. The outer tower is where most of the people live and they are generally ignorant to the workings of the inner tower. The middle tower basically serves to connect the outer and inner towers. And the inner tower is where the tests take place and generally where the story takes place. This isn't exact but you can think of the inner tower sort of as a lifeline that connects the floors together.
5. Most of these characters are much much much much older than you think. 100's of years old in some cases. Time moves very differently in the tower. If you wanna have some fun you can go through the Wiki and check out their ages.
6. Bam (Baam in the webtoon) has 2 meanings in Korean, chestnut and night. In the anime everyone calls him adorable or good looking or something like that. But in the Webtoon this was in reference to his name meaning chestnut, he looked delicious, its kind of play on words. It also give a double meaning to Rachel when she says she's scared of the night. It could mean she's scared of the dark and therefore wants starlight to illuminate it, or, it could mean she's scared of Bam.
7. If anyone else has anything to add please do so, but please keep it specific to knowledge they would have at the end of the first season. I know I'm missing a lot, but I'm not trying to write a book over here.
A month late since I'm not a member and someone already did a great explanation about the whole irregular thing, but a few things i wanna mention to make it easier to understand.
Regular : People who got chosen by Headon to enter the Tower
Irregular : Not chosen by Headon, but instead got chosen by the Tower itself
Rachel : Weird anomaly as she entered the tower purely by coincidence
So, funny story. When I first watched tower of god (and hadn’t read the webtoon then either) I for some reason thought the first season had only 12 episodes. Many animes do have 12 or 24 episodes. So I saw the previous episode and thought “wow, that’s quite a cliffhanger to end on”. Like months later I learned there was this episode 13 which…explains a bit more. 😂 Especially with Rachel.
So yeah, the season did end with quite a cliffhanger, but not the one I thought at first 😅
Bam is an irregular and he opened the door to the tower twice, the first time rachel was there so she went through it instead and then he opened it again
Can't wait to see what S2 holds in store for us. It's going to be wild.
Poor Rak, he's so upset he lost his Turtle 😢
There's a *floor* admin per floor (each w/ random looks). They set ground rules of tests (& give green/red light to *test* admin's schemes). Also, control all shinsu there. Irregulars are intruders, they ain't bound by an admin's "shackles". Admins r only active if smth big is going on their turf. Headon's prolly the most active, bc he's at the door.
So, little recap:
Headon, Coffee Turtle and the Red Haired Navigator all seem to be in the same boat, or at the very least they all knew what was going on with Rachel and actively provided opportunities for her to end Bam.
With that said, at the end the Navigator is spurring Bam on to train and climb, so what really was their goal? You'll need to keep watching and eventually you'll find out!
What ended Ho was also not Khun's message but that of the red-haired Navigator (whose name is Hwaryun).
As for your irregular question: Bam still is an irregular. He was the one who forced the door open, and Rachel kinda went through that door first. I believe we can think of both as irregulars, but Rachel didn't have the strength to open the door by herself. She shouldn't have ended up in the tower.
They are also the two people who supposedly came from another world, which makes them irregular even for irregulars.
Sam saying “damn, read to filth” when Rachel was being verbally destroyed made me cackle. 😂
Rachel is fascinating. She gets the chance of a lifetime by being pulled into the tower accidentally with Bam but is so narcissistic she sees it as a slight it wasn’t her that was chosen.
Then when given the opportunity to climb the tower by merely asking she refuses to do it because it’s ‘too hard’. And then when given ANOTHER opportunity she asks for a crutch.
She wants to be innately special and popular without doing any work. She wants to be how she thinks Bam is.
She’s also just self aware enough to know that she’s terrible. But not self aware enough to stop.
18:40 that page in sam notebook is hanging on with all its might 😂
Apparently in the Manwha Rachel struggled a lot less than she did in the anime, so I've heard (only started reading from where the anime ended, I'll need to also read the early part at some point)
You really should, my advice is watch the 1st episode again, then read the 1st 2 chapters just to see the difference.
What chapter to read after the anime?
@@zegion999 S1 of the anime is also S1 of the webtoon. So you can start at S2 episode 0 (issue #80 overall)
Love how Hadon never told Rachel to "Kill" Bam but to put an end to his story.
Literally said right before that line that “if you can bring his life to a close”. What’re you talking about
@@barron30 First, it's an anime only dialogue scene. In the webtoon we don't hear the deal with Rachel.
It's only implied that he wanted Rachel to betray Bam.
There are 2 main things I was upset they changed or skipped in the anime adaption. These aren't SPOILERS technically as they would have happened at this point, but I'll put them further down just in case you dont want to know still.
1. In addition to Endorsi being jealous that Rachel is allowed to love, she actually begins to fall for Bam. Nothing more than the early stages of a crush, but they removed that entirely, which fails to fully display Endorsi's character as well as her growing relationship with Bam.
2. Bam is not determined to go on after Rachel pushes him. He is absolutely devistated, his will is completely broken, and he wants to give up. Hwaryun ends up convincing him to move on despite his feelings, and he reluctantly agrees as he doesn't know what else to do but climb the tower. I dont know why they decided to change his characterization in this scene. It was very weird.
It was pretty fun seeing you all react to this series!
In my opinion, this adaptation didn't really hit the mark for me. There were a lot of details skipped, and some changes I didn't like. The biggest flaw for me was Bam's outlook at the end. In the source material he was so hurt and broken from the betrayal, he didn't want to climb the tower. In the adaptation, they made him hopeful and looking forward to climbing the tower. The change is bad because Bam never really cared about the tower at this point. His only reason for being there was to be with Rachel, so it makes more sense for him to not want to climb because he was betrayed by the person that was the reason for him to climb.
Another thing that may have hurt the adaptation was that because a Japanese person was directing this adaptation of a Korean work, a lot of liberties have been taken to "Japanify" the series making it more digestible for the Japanese audience.
I'll still watch second season, but idk if I will watch further seasons of the adaptation. It depends if they pull it off for me.
Ok, end of the season, two things missing: I mentioned earlier that there was a missing conversation earlier in the season, which was Bam promising Endorsi a date, so they're kind of an item in that they have a date pending; the second is from this section of the manhwa, Rachel says to Hwaryun that she's "scared of the night," alluding to Bam.
Important takeaways... Other than maybe Headon, none of the key players appear in this season, with most of the story effectively being controlled from off-screen. Yu Hansung is clearly working for someone else and lied about serving Jahad, Hwaryun works for the same people (evident through their actions this season); Lo Po Bia Ren works for Jahad, the royal faction; Yuri gives Shibisu and friends the icon of a faction that she belongs to; and it's unknown if Headon is the head of a faction of just part of one, but the only time he has direct involvement is when he gives Bam the initial test.
Pieces fall into place with so little. Headon and Yu Hansung could've used force to get Bam where they wanted, but all they had to do was speak; even the administrator was just a tool
Bam and endorsi aren’t dating lol it’s definitely a one sided relationship but bam does care about her as any other of his friends.
Congrats on finishing the prologue!
Well, I'm looking forward to S2 to see Rachel get what's coming to her
So do I man! It annoys me so much seeing people trying to justify or to lighten the weight of her actions and kind of wait for a Rachel's redemption arc. If that ever happens it will be a big turn down for me. I mean, that character shouldn't be allowed to get a happy ending, she's way beyond that point.
@@gabrielmenez It's all in the writing in terms of whether a villain is loved or not. Eren is a way worse monster and people still like him.
Regulars are choosen by Hadon (the weird rabbit dude) inside the tower, irregulars are choosen by the tower outside the tower, Bam is an irregular because the tower chose him. Rachel ended up in the tower by mistake because she was close phisically close to Bam in that moment, so techically, she's an irregular irregular
Also Hadon (and so Rachel) clearly wanted to kill him, but the blonde dude and the girl with red hair just wanted to make everyone believe he was dead
I think if Headon truly wanted Bam dead, it would be done already. Even with Yuri's interference, Bam wouldn't even have made it out of the first floor.
Idk if Headon wanted to push Bam, Rachel, or both of them onto a certain path though.
Loved your TOG reactions~!!
God I love Rachel. Was a stroke of brilliance to make a background npc into an MC and pair her up with a typical chosen one MC. Rachel is a reflection of the greed of humans with their jealousy and envy of what others have. You see it all the time on social media with people hating on those more successful than them. But also you can sorta understand where she's coming from since bam really does seem to just have MC privileges with his hidden potential. Like people bitching about those who are born with rich parents.
I love this episode. Throughout this whole season we've been wondering what's up with Rachel? Why is she acting so cold towards Bam? Why does it seem like she's distancing herself but also somewhat cares? And then this episode put it all into place. Dislike Rachel for what she did. But I'm also interested in her story going forward.
But more than that, I want to see Khun and Bam eventually reunite. Love their dynamic
Rachel is a character that pretty much the entire fanbase hates. But much of the fansbase likes her as a character because she is written very well. To succussfully write a character that readers/viewers hate but is interesting is an achievement by the author.
PAIN but (reader here) it’ll get so much better in season 2 ‼️
Worst thing is that she didn't even hesitate because of empathy or any shit like that. It was because he was the only one that treated her as important as she wants to become.
oh and what kuhn meant was that if she wasn't the first person he ever met and the only one he remembers ever thenshe wouldn't have meant half as much to Bam as she did now
This always reminds me of how much I loved my ex and how losing me literally meant nothing to her at all. I changed her contact info in my phone to "Rachel" as a constant reminder that she's a backstab waiting to happen all over again.
In manhwa, Headon said to bring his "story" to a close, not life. To end his story.
Theyre both irregulars, because they were both outside the tower. But in the first episode, the tower brought her in by mistake, because she was next to him? maybe. At least thats how I understood it.
“Next season” 🥲
I can't help but be reminded of that one special but toxic ex whenever I watch TOG and see Rachel.
12:52 rak crying made me
Wish they showed how mad he was just like in the webtoon
Yeeei, acaban de publicar un teaser
Can’t wait for season 2!
spilers to early s2 ahead !!
oh my god! season 1 to season 2 has time skip of Five years!
did we all had to wait real 5 years for season 2? :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Season 2 is supposed to return this Summer, so only 4 years, thankfully.
"what they want with him?"
you clearly missed how special irregular is...
think of the greatest human being that lived in history and imagine we find he'll reincarnet to newborn baby...
with the potential of the greatest minds, abuilities and fits... everyone will sell their left nut to have anything to do with the newborn messiah fate and success
just imagine how in our world we would put all our problems and expectations in our new messiah to deal with them.
thats why irregular so special
Complex emotions.
TOWER OF GOD SEASON 2 TRAILER has been revealed by CRUNCHYROLL. Are you guys going to reacts to that video??
All my homies hate Rachel!
Congratulations, you just met one of the most reviled female characters of all fiction.
She is indeed
there's no good reason.. rachel is just one of the most hated anime characters..💀
Will you watch Ninja Kamui?
Recommendation: the god of high school
Incoming JVG !
why Simple...
Irregulars are like DISASTERS
Zahaard is an irregular and look at him, he became king easily
Waiting for Viole.
Rachel did nothing wrong.
It's sad, you can see the language Headon used to break her, then give her 1 door.
She took the option, but never had any real intention to kill Bam she just wanted a chance to climb the tower.
You can see how whenever she was ready to give up, Hwa Ryun or Hansung Yu helped reinforce the will over her.
She was a pawn used for their purpose. And in the end, she is climbing the tower.
If you think about it tower of god is jus a
Women being a problem to a one innocent man 😂😂😂
The time skip in the story between S1 and S2 is the literal time difference IRL till S2 is released. Just shows how they are trying to make this anime absolutely legit and true to the source, unlike all the other webtoon adaptations which just do 10 years time skip in story but s2 comes a year later IRL
That's just dumb lol, so for a 10 year time skip we'll have to wait 10 years in real life, for not even a peak tier animation lol, and let's be real the anime didn't do the manhwa justice on so many aspects, the music was fire tho.
@@crazyfam2261 Bro I was sarcastically mocking the anime since there's no new season since June 2020 xD
@@FroYo1305 🤣🤣🤣 i guess that went over my head lol, a comment right above yours said a similar thing lol
@@crazyfam2261 all good man xD have a nice day/night :D
All the homies hate Rachel
Rachel gets way worse xD
Im shocked
Rachel is…pretty bad yeah. But I still think she’s an interesting character.
Season 2 anime hype !
When is s2 coming?
@@zegion999In july
@@zegion999 It’s supposed to start in July this year.
watch ninja kamui
JVG
Yeah I love Rachel as a character. Like obviously she's awful, but she's also so human. She's just a weak person both physically and mentally whose ambitions and ego don't reflect reality, like so many people in real life. And it's fun that like compared to a lot of anime villains she's one of the objectively least evil, but it feels so much worse because it's such a petty personal grudge.
Yes, Rachel is just my favourite character, I want to see so much more about her, but I'm confident we'll get it.
All my homies hate Rachel 🤬
do more live action ya weebs
rachel is the modern day women lmao