Good day sir can i use arc welding on the same crack you repair? Mine was the same as yours.has half of an inch crack of it.thank you.your video just gives me an idea on what to do.
Hey Keith, I'm a disabled Vietnam vet and would love to give that plane a home. I tried a similar repair on my Dad's old Stanley No. 5, but I tried brazing it and heated the sole up too much and it is warped now. Lesson learned. Love watching you rehab these old planes and giving them a new lease on life. Thanks for sharing what you do.
Looking good! I grew up on an Illinois farm and my is a good welder, he always said the to weld cast iron he needed to heat up the cast iron in an oven and weld it while it was hot. I never attempted it myself so I don't know if thats a myth or not. I thought your welds turned out pretty darn good and it didn't warp the plane. Its all good.
Nice work! I think you just busted another myth. A while back I had looked for info on welding a plane. Almost every video on TH-cam said it's not possible and it can only be brazed. It didn't stop me from trying. I used a crappy stick welder and I'm not very good. It was horrible but at least when I was done I thought I failed at something that was not possible. Guess I just failed.
Cast iron is fairly brittle. This property works against you when you apply welding heat to a concentrated area. That area expands (and rapidly cools when the heat dissipates into conductive material), causes tension in the surrounding cooler material, and can cause fractures. Professional welders preheat brittle parts in a kiln before joining or filling them to reduce temperature differentials, slow the cooling of the joint, and help gasses escape the metal. Some metals like Ni-resist used in turbine wheels are super hard, super brittle, and can't be welded partially because it's too difficult to make filler wire out of them.
I find these videos to be a great source of information about this subject. Maybe I missed it, but I've never seen anything on replacement of the washer (or whatever it's called) on the lateral adjustment lever. I purchased an old number 5 in summer of 2017 for $15 and that's the only piece missing. Any help would be appreciated.
Hello, Keith. I'm also a Keith, and also a veteran. I weld for a living, and occasionally repair cast iron, but I'm always looking for information/techniques, as it's always hit or miss with cast iron. What alloy wire were you using to repair the cracks and fill the hanging hole? Thank you for your service.
Hi, question, I have a couple of plane bottoms, a Stanley 5 and 6. I've been getting into selling on eBay and I'd like to get spare parts. On eBay, the parts sell more then a plane. I really just want to make them work again.
hi! great video as always, your channel is i'm all up to. here's the thing, i live in Indonesia and i got millers falls plane which is quite impossible to have it here. after i spent forever in oldtoolheaven.com its maybe around no.10. type 4 because the frog is painted black. and when i bought it, the cutting iron, cap iron, and lever cap is missing, but i buy it anyway. my question is, i wonder if maybe you have the same plane or at least the same sizing plane,and send me a pic of that parts with the measurement and dimension, so i can make my 'DIY' lever cap and cap iron. so i can give this plane a second chance. thanks before, any help would be very appreciated
this is probably wrong comment in the wrong place but it is about bench planes are there any stanley planes or other usa planes that used iron bed and aluminium frog and lever cap? i just bought on a fle market russian made monster like that it is 14 inches long, 3 and 1/4 inched wideand it is a monster comparing to few no4 i already had i wanted something bigger for work but i am still unsure about this aluminium frog and lever cap what was the failure point in stanley aluminium planes?
thanks i will put it to work, the resoults will show if it was a good choice to buy it it might have beed some kind of cast iron shortage cheap russian market gismo or someone actualy designed it this way. either way it has never been used before , so the honor of trubbleshooting it falls on me thanks for your reply
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Great video Keith, thanks for posting it. The plane looks good and the repairs too: nice job as usual, Paul
Nice job.
Good day sir can i use arc welding on the same crack you repair? Mine was the same as yours.has half of an inch crack of it.thank you.your video just gives me an idea on what to do.
I always think it's funny when people want to give away their old broken junk so they can act like some great philanthropists
It came out great Keith. You saved it and put it back to work. Good you!
Great job! It is always extra rewarding when you rescue something so far gone most people would discard it without thinking twice.
Hey Keith, I'm a disabled Vietnam vet and would love to give that plane a home. I tried a similar repair on my Dad's old Stanley No. 5, but I tried brazing it and heated the sole up too much and it is warped now. Lesson learned. Love watching you rehab these old planes and giving them a new lease on life. Thanks for sharing what you do.
Very good job ! I'm impress with the welding result.
Thanks for replying.I just renewed my membership and was using an April 2005 directory.
good job!
Amazing!
Looking good! I grew up on an Illinois farm and my is a good welder, he always said the to weld cast iron he needed to heat up the cast iron in an oven and weld it while it was hot. I never attempted it myself so I don't know if thats a myth or not.
I thought your welds turned out pretty darn good and it didn't warp the plane. Its all good.
Thanks for thinking of us Vets Brother. Hope your handiwork found a good home. Nice hat, btw. WWer's standard issue?
Nice work! I think you just busted another myth. A while back I had looked for info on welding a plane. Almost every video on TH-cam said it's not possible and it can only be brazed. It didn't stop me from trying. I used a crappy stick welder and I'm not very good. It was horrible but at least when I was done I thought I failed at something that was not possible. Guess I just failed.
Cast iron is fairly brittle. This property works against you when you apply welding heat to a concentrated area. That area expands (and rapidly cools when the heat dissipates into conductive material), causes tension in the surrounding cooler material, and can cause fractures. Professional welders preheat brittle parts in a kiln before joining or filling them to reduce temperature differentials, slow the cooling of the joint, and help gasses escape the metal.
Some metals like Ni-resist used in turbine wheels are super hard, super brittle, and can't be welded partially because it's too difficult to make filler wire out of them.
Good on ya.
I find these videos to be a great source of information about this subject. Maybe I missed it, but I've never seen anything on replacement of the washer (or whatever it's called) on the lateral adjustment lever. I purchased an old number 5 in summer of 2017 for $15 and that's the only piece missing. Any help would be appreciated.
I’ve got a 1930s record number 4 that was braised with brass at some point in its life. It’s rough as guts but most plane I own.
Plane Collector no never throw away at worst case they will yield parts for others. How’s the weld holding up, never thought of mig welding.
Plane Collector I quite agree with you on that. Would be interesting to see how it goes.
Hello, Keith. I'm also a Keith, and also a veteran. I weld for a living, and occasionally repair cast iron, but I'm always looking for information/techniques, as it's always hit or miss with cast iron. What alloy wire were you using to repair the cracks and fill the hanging hole? Thank you for your service.
Hi, question, I have a couple of plane bottoms, a Stanley 5 and 6. I've been getting into selling on eBay and I'd like to get spare parts. On eBay, the parts sell more then a plane. I really just want to make them work again.
Great video as always. My welding isn't up to par. I'm out of practice. Would brazing be a suitable substitute?
Certainly a safer option with cast iron.
Are you Thomas Davis of Spotsylvania( MWTCA) ??
hi! great video as always, your channel is i'm all up to. here's the thing, i live in Indonesia and i got millers falls plane which is quite impossible to have it here. after i spent forever in oldtoolheaven.com its maybe around no.10. type 4 because the frog is painted black. and when i bought it, the cutting iron, cap iron, and lever cap is missing, but i buy it anyway. my question is, i wonder if maybe you have the same plane or at least the same sizing plane,and send me a pic of that parts with the measurement and dimension, so i can make my 'DIY' lever cap and cap iron. so i can give this plane a second chance. thanks before, any help would be very appreciated
this is probably wrong comment in the wrong place but it is about bench planes
are there any stanley planes or other usa planes that used iron bed and aluminium frog and lever cap?
i just bought on a fle market russian made monster like that
it is 14 inches long, 3 and 1/4 inched wideand it is a monster comparing to few no4 i already had
i wanted something bigger for work but i am still unsure about this aluminium frog and lever cap
what was the failure point in stanley aluminium planes?
thanks i will put it to work, the resoults will show if it was a good choice to buy it
it might have beed some kind of cast iron shortage cheap russian market gismo or someone actualy designed it this way.
either way it has never been used before , so the honor of trubbleshooting it falls on me
thanks for your reply
hi dad
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Would you be willing to take a donation of a Bedrock base & some parts. To be put togethor for a potential Vet related give away in the future?
I would donate a complete SW#5 or a type17 #5 to be restored & given to a Vet by Kieth if he'd be willing to do one of his amazing restorations!