74 y/o playing regularly for 70 yrs, hundreds of hours of instruction from many famous instructors. No one ever described the basic swing better than this video. Well done, thank you.
I went over your collection of videos probably 3 - 4 times . in between the experiment on the golf course or just hitting the ball to the net. My overall swing mechanic is a lot more stable and so much easier to maintain. I think you really deserve the name "elite golf school". The philosophy and the way you approach golf swing is just god's gift to average golfer like myself. just want to thanks again for an amazing work.
Been playing this game for 40+ years and never heard the scapula arm lift described this way. Felt completely new but intuitive, and immediately added distance and height to my shots. Amazing how basic it is but so effective. well done boys
You're right - the videos are improving. Though you've mentioned these things to an extent before, your description of spine extension whilst dropping combined with going 'sideways thump' got through to me this time and unlocked a whole bunch of movement for me. Thanks so much guys! As a Scotsman I struggle in the UK because your/Milo's/Hogan/Hovland style baseball-type sling/swing works for me best but is very different to what is commonly taught across the pond here. Feedback from me is all positive. I also wanna say don't feel you can't revisit topics slightly differently worded, because as in this video, your attempts to refine your descriptions of certain aspects can really help me understand what I couldn't before i.e., there is value in those attempts alone. One thing I really struggle with (5hcp) is achieving your momentum-driven takeaway and long transition without the club wrapping around my neck like John Daly rather than the look you have of a more vertical shaft pointing to the sky instead of at target, thereby maintaining space for the arms to transition correctly (trail supination + lead arm internal rotation). I believe this might be cause I have flexy wrist and arms but may be wrong. Hope that makes sense and might be considered for a future video. If not -that's ok too. Loving the content and your considered descriptions!!🔥✊
What a wonderfully worded comment and thank you for your insights! Will definitely look into some arm/wrist movement maps for you in videos to come!!! ❤️❤️ 🏴
I have a wood burning stove and was actually splitting logs recently with an axe and about 3 or 4 swings in I couldn’t believe how similar a lot of the movements that you guys describe throughout your videos are to the golf swing. The intent of directing the max force (hit) at the log sets off this almost unconscious chain reaction that leaves me with the sole thought of just coordinating the whole thing. I would frequently get a log that wouldn’t split with a single blow so I would focus on just hitting the same spot harder. I’m not thinking of weight shift or spine extension or shallowing or side bending - just splitting the dam log. Mapping movement to intent is a wonderful way of thinking about it. Super video and Tx for sharing.
Guys, another great video! For me, it is the clearest concept in golf. It suits my way of thinking and trying to get a personal feel out of it. You both can perfectly deliver this concept. A day before this video, I found myself a feeling - I only concentrated on the two lateral shift of the ribcage. Just trying to collect as much "positiv tension" as possible with the contrary momentum of the club v.s. the ribcage. I guess this already eliminated the "hitting down" and created the "hitting across/lateral" the ribcage. I had amazing shots that day - now a day later this video suits perfectly to my experience. At least I believe it does :-) Thank you very much !!
Lovely simplification of everything you guys have covered in the past! This has really improved my ball striking and moving me closer to scratch! Such effortless way to produce power. Let's see what i can achieve on my 60th birthday this year . Plan is to broadcast me playing a round on my youtube channel using your methods
This is the perfect lesson for even a beginner. You guys said it perfectly, people don’t have the right intention in their mind to allow for their natural athletic movement to come out. I’m only a 5 handicap, but whenever I try to give a quick lesson to a new golfer who asks for tips, I always tell them that after a proper, comfortable setup, most of the work is done as long as you have the right intention in your head (e.g., swinging an axe at a tree) After that, it’s minor tweaks. Can’t wait to see you guys in August in Castle Rock. I’ve been watching since you guys started and cannot express how much you have helped me. Probably going to give TJ a big fat hug when I see him 😂
You guys find very creative and effective ways to instruct this. Like wow. I can see why these things would work so well with developing juniors. You guys are great. Would love some 3 hole vlogs/course management concepts for some of your students once in awhile. Itd be a good excuse for you guys to hit the links a few times a month while still extending your instruction horizons
Thanks to this channel I finally feel like I have a chance at golf. My main points I’ve learned: 1) torso is the main engine 2) front side bend to recenter 3) drop the hip to shallow 4) front legs for brakes If you do those items, everything else falls into place
Terrific video. As I’ve gotten older (72) I’m finding it tougher to get through the ball. I hit a lot of fat shots. This thumper drill is really helpful. I have a divot board I practice with if I can’t get to the range or in the winter. This drill is getting me to hit ball first and then the ground. In other-words, taking a divot after the ball. I can’t exactly explain why. I’m sure you can but I’m hitting the ball much cleaner and farther. Many thanks for your help. Your system definitely works!
You guys are amazing. I have always considered that there is a fundamental swing action that we such always practice. Other videos that are on TH-cam appear to be enhancers to more speed, power etc. that will only work if you have the basics right. Tired of practicing and not getting consistent so this video is perfect for me ! ⛳️
@@elitegolfschools yesterday I had 3 birdies (never had that many in the same round) and hit the longest drive of my golfing life by some 40 yards ! So happy with my new and improved swing. You guys are awesome ! ⛳️ 🙏🏻 🌟
Love your videos been doing the step drill and the time I have at the top now feels amazing ( Davis Love backswing speed thrown in) I’ve dropped 3 shots still going !
Seriously fellas, you guys should be up with the Foley and Cowan. Your info is so easy to take in. America’s version of Piers and Andy. Although they’ve left the uk 😂 So easy to get onboard with your methods.
I’m definitely guilty of lifting my arms to where I think they should be in the backswing and then firing my hips because that’s what you see the “pros” do. This explanation of how the arms move up and down and the ribs rotate around a stable base, “produces” a look that resembles a diagonal movement of the club to the ball. Thank you for the great content always!
Again thank you Riley and TJ for the fantastic videos ! I have gone over most of/ all of your videos numerous times and have made great progress as a new player . A little confusion regarding the drop of the pelvis . Is the drop from the rib sway ( forward in transition ) , or a drop of the pelvis , then the rib sway or combo of both? You guys give the best explanation of your preferred system available and always look forward to new videos …. Much appreciated
Incredible video. As an instructor that teaches the same system I can easily refer this video to my beginner students. There are apparently 13 different golf patterns ie Stacking Tilt, Elephant Trunk, Constant Radius et al. One of the problems with TH-cam videos is that novice golfers don't know which pattern matches the topic of the video, and therefore I tell my students not to look at them unless I make a recommendation. If you were interested, it would be instructional to see Elite Golf Schools do a series of videos showing what makes your pattern different from other patterns, and which pattern suits which player.
@@elitegolfschools Actually, I think it is more than that. You have the Main System, that is the basics. ie managing the forces. Then you add a Swing Pattern that focuses on 1) getting down to the ball, 2) how you release, and 3) how you shallow. ie Elephant Trunk, Constant radius metal.Even the Driver and Wedge swing can be thought of as a pattern that builds off the Main System. Stalk and Tilt would be a different Main System. This video has changes my approach to teaching.
@@Dwu0nbUrYky5yr4U5FA I wish I did ...... it is hard to find., and I have looked. I am going by comments made by Scott Cowx CPGA. Even the President of our CGTF Association has zero on it. However, based on my definition of a Swing Pattern the Driver swing, and the Wedge swing are patterns built on the Main System, since the three elements are different. Is Stalk and Tilt a different Main System or a Swing Pattern ? I think its an important area of study.
In the backswing the arms lift. I know you said not to lower them. But if they go up they have to go down at some point to hit the ball and you cannot keep them up too long otherwise it could result in an out to in path. Can you please elaborate on when and how the arms should lower?
Probably want to take a look at our ‘don’t lift the arms’ video to get a better concept of what our intention is here. Also, you can absolutely lower the arms and all great players do. We’re speaking more to the intention of the player. If you choose to do this as an active thought, then we’d like to see that happen around the P4.5/P5 phase. Definitely don’t want the arms lowering actively immediately from the top. Equates to early extension if this happens usually
the hip drop helps a lot on my sequence and rhythm. does the hip drop apply to half / quarter swing pitching? I struggle to control the low point when pitching 30-80 yards. thin or chunk. thanks in advance 🙏🏻 will be great if you guys can make more videos of short game
From watching previous videos of yours my understanding was the main “hit” feel came from active chest rotation once in honey hole. So is the preference now arm adduction/abduction or am I misunderstanding. Could you elaborate more how this blends with chest rotation
Great question. I had the same one. I also remember fat shots came from not rotating the chest enough but in this video I heard more lateral hit to avoid fat contact?
Great question and we’ve heard a lot of this. The answer is… BOTH! However, for each player they will feel this in different ways. Need to identify what player you are first. Do you need more activity in the chest as the intention or do you need to send energy in certain special regions with your arms. However. The best in the world unload everything. Their body systems as well as their arms, hands, and club
@@JoeContrucciexactly! The vertical motion of the arms can either come from stalling the chest (usually coming from improper pelvic movement) or an improper force direction from the arms
@@elitegolfschools Would the arm adduction/abduction be happening just before delivery then? I'm confused about the sequence here, if I try to abduct/adduct actively the shaft gets steep and I lose that perpendicular angle between shaft and spine like you talk about in the global swing principles video. Thank you!
This is great! I’ve noticed this weekend doing this that I’m pulling the start line….sometimes pretty significantly. Could that likely be that I’m pulling the arms across too much? Also can you comment on the drop? I assume the more you drop the more level you can fire the arms.
Hey guys I got some great results with this video and the ‘how to use your hands’ video.. my problem is I get a topping the ball problem now that I’m shallow, what can I do to fix ? Thanks!
Found you guys this week and love the content. I was stuck trying to actively rotate after the drop and now I know to just fire the arms!!! One question is experimenting at the range with the release if I push with my trail hand and pull towards me at the same time with the lead hand right before strike the ball screams off the face. Should I get away from this release? No one really talks about it.
If a player's arms run out too far in the back-swing (a bad habit of mine), can you still make that same move and be thumpy? Or, will you have some problems.
Just to confirm. The ab/aduct action is level (perpendicular to the T spine) with spiral line going up, back and away. The level is not referenced to the ground at P5? Does the shoulder line (while ducting) than stay aimed to the target for awhile until the spiral line pulls the shoulder line away? Hope I phrased this OK. A million thanks
@@elitegolfschools one more clarification. When firing the arms are they on a straight line to the target or remain rotating on the same axis as the shoulders? And the ball goes tangent to the target.
Does this first drill help with overactive legs? I am really struggling to stop my legs from firing hard when I ramp up past slow motion half swings, I feel like I'm doing a decent job of the other elements you teach, but can't get out of my hard vertical pattern with the legs.
it just feels like when you turn like that the club is automatically gonna go inside? should someone who typically takes the club inside maybe turn less?
Anyone else struggling with how low to drop the pelvis? I get to my transition, drop (mini squat), and then swing through the ball. I hit it fat every time. I drop a little less and then I thin (or even miss) the ball.
Level to the spine or on slight tilt. However not all do this. Cameron Champ moves into right bend in his backswing 😳 However, our preference for building into this system is lead bend from spiral line movement
Every golfer out there could break 100 just doing this the whole round. You may have discussed it already and I missed it, but most of us mere mortals won’t be able to do it due to vice grip dead lift effort and tension in every movement in golf swing.
Hmmmmm………the only thing I am questioning is whenever I think arm forward it’s a trainwreck. Not disagreeing, legit guys all recommending arm power in sequence. Is it just a feel of a later release with good arm structure?
Working on the drop, do you rotate the pelvis around the rear leg as the tailbone is dropping at 45 degrees back and when landed at P5 would the hips be parallel(0r 0pen?) to the target as the chest begins rotating? cheers
Riley is probably the only person in the world that can explain any concept and hold my attention the entire time.
Haha appreciate that man!
74 y/o playing regularly for 70 yrs, hundreds of hours of instruction from many famous instructors. No one ever described the basic swing better than this video. Well done, thank you.
Wow, that a kind compliment!! Thank you for the kind words from a life-long golfer! Thank you sir!
I went over your collection of videos probably 3 - 4 times . in between the experiment on the golf course or just hitting the ball to the net. My overall swing mechanic is a lot more stable and so much easier to maintain. I think you really deserve the name "elite golf school". The philosophy and the way you approach golf swing is just god's gift to average golfer like myself. just want to thanks again for an amazing work.
Wow! What an amazing compliment! Thank you so much for the kind words and so happy you’re enjoying and hopefully hitting some great shots! ❤
Thanks for the basics! That thump and upper body rotation drill is dope. Especially with the pelvis drop.
Thumpty dumpty baby!! 🥚
Fantastic and super understandable teacher...!!
@@ing.pedroricardocortesarvi2394 right on! Glad you liked the vid! 🙏🙏
Been playing this game for 40+ years and never heard the scapula arm lift described this way. Felt completely new but intuitive, and immediately added distance and height to my shots. Amazing how basic it is but so effective. well done boys
You're right - the videos are improving. Though you've mentioned these things to an extent before, your description of spine extension whilst dropping combined with going 'sideways thump' got through to me this time and unlocked a whole bunch of movement for me. Thanks so much guys! As a Scotsman I struggle in the UK because your/Milo's/Hogan/Hovland style baseball-type sling/swing works for me best but is very different to what is commonly taught across the pond here. Feedback from me is all positive. I also wanna say don't feel you can't revisit topics slightly differently worded, because as in this video, your attempts to refine your descriptions of certain aspects can really help me understand what I couldn't before i.e., there is value in those attempts alone. One thing I really struggle with (5hcp) is achieving your momentum-driven takeaway and long transition without the club wrapping around my neck like John Daly rather than the look you have of a more vertical shaft pointing to the sky instead of at target, thereby maintaining space for the arms to transition correctly (trail supination + lead arm internal rotation). I believe this might be cause I have flexy wrist and arms but may be wrong. Hope that makes sense and might be considered for a future video. If not -that's ok too. Loving the content and your considered descriptions!!🔥✊
What a wonderfully worded comment and thank you for your insights! Will definitely look into some arm/wrist movement maps for you in videos to come!!! ❤️❤️ 🏴
@@elitegolfschools sounds sick!! Can’t wait! 🤙🏻
@@Chris_Traynor ❤️❤️
This video, along with the "don't rotate the hips" video, has saved my game. Thank you. 🙏🏿
Fantastic! So exciting!!!
Excellent explanation
@@DrBalaji-m5c right on!!!
It works for me like magic!!! Thank you guys
Fantastic! So happy to hear that!!!
I have a wood burning stove and was actually splitting logs recently with an axe and about 3 or 4 swings in I couldn’t believe how similar a lot of the movements that you guys describe throughout your videos are to the golf swing. The intent of directing the max force (hit) at the log sets off this almost unconscious chain reaction that leaves me with the sole thought of just coordinating the whole thing. I would frequently get a log that wouldn’t split with a single blow so I would focus on just hitting the same spot harder. I’m not thinking of weight shift or spine extension or shallowing or side bending - just splitting the dam log. Mapping movement to intent is a wonderful way of thinking about it. Super video and Tx for sharing.
Exactly! Simple pattern that most folks can execute on!!
This instruction is phenomenal. I’ve been playing for years and never came across building sound foundational body movement explained so well.
best golf instruction on youtube🔥
Man oh Mann just made our day! ❤❤
Guys, another great video! For me, it is the clearest concept in golf. It suits my way of thinking and trying to get a personal feel out of it. You both can perfectly deliver this concept. A day before this video, I found myself a feeling - I only concentrated on the two lateral shift of the ribcage. Just trying to collect as much "positiv tension" as possible with the contrary momentum of the club v.s. the ribcage. I guess this already eliminated the "hitting down" and created the "hitting across/lateral" the ribcage. I had amazing shots that day - now a day later this video suits perfectly to my experience. At least I believe it does :-) Thank you very much !!
Wonderful! So fun to hear the great results from you. Keep it up and keep us posted!!! ❤
Lovely simplification of everything you guys have covered in the past! This has really improved my ball striking and moving me closer to scratch! Such effortless way to produce power. Let's see what i can achieve on my 60th birthday this year . Plan is to broadcast me playing a round on my youtube channel using your methods
Let’s go!! And happy early birthday! Let us know when you broadcast as we would love to see watch!!
This is the perfect lesson for even a beginner. You guys said it perfectly, people don’t have the right intention in their mind to allow for their natural athletic movement to come out. I’m only a 5 handicap, but whenever I try to give a quick lesson to a new golfer who asks for tips, I always tell them that after a proper, comfortable setup, most of the work is done as long as you have the right intention in your head (e.g., swinging an axe at a tree) After that, it’s minor tweaks.
Can’t wait to see you guys in August in Castle Rock. I’ve been watching since you guys started and cannot express how much you have helped me. Probably going to give TJ a big fat hug when I see him 😂
Let’s go!! Can’t wait to see ya!!
I did not realize how much I needed this video! Struggled with coming through impact while dropping, this makes total sense. Thanks boys!
So glad it helped 🙏
Awesome room fellas , bringing it together another bonus.
Absolutely
You guys find very creative and effective ways to instruct this. Like wow. I can see why these things would work so well with developing juniors. You guys are great. Would love some 3 hole vlogs/course management concepts for some of your students once in awhile. Itd be a good excuse for you guys to hit the links a few times a month while still extending your instruction horizons
Love that idea!! We’ve don’t this a couple of times but still identifying a good way to convey messages first. Thanks so much for the ideas!! ❤
Thanks to this channel I finally feel like I have a chance at golf. My main points I’ve learned:
1) torso is the main engine
2) front side bend to recenter
3) drop the hip to shallow
4) front legs for brakes
If you do those items, everything else falls into place
So cool to hear! And yes, a little different for every individual system but so excited for you!! Hit them well!!
Outstanding insights
Thank you!! ❤❤❤
Terrific video. As I’ve gotten older (72) I’m finding it tougher to get through the ball. I hit a lot of fat shots. This thumper drill is really helpful. I have a divot board I practice with if I can’t get to the range or in the winter. This drill is getting me to hit ball first and then the ground. In other-words, taking a divot after the ball. I can’t exactly explain why. I’m sure you can but I’m hitting the ball much cleaner and farther. Many thanks for your help. Your system definitely works!
Love the video gents!
Thanks so much guys!!
You guys are amazing. I have always considered that there is a fundamental swing action that we such always practice. Other videos that are on TH-cam appear to be enhancers to more speed, power etc. that will only work if you have the basics right. Tired of practicing and not getting consistent so this video is perfect for me ! ⛳️
Fantastic! So happy for you my man! Keep us posted please!
@@elitegolfschools yesterday I had 3 birdies (never had that many in the same round) and hit the longest drive of my golfing life by some 40 yards ! So happy with my new and improved swing. You guys are awesome ! ⛳️ 🙏🏻 🌟
@@markfurlong800 whaaaaaat?! Game on! Great stuff and so incredibly pumped for you! Bad ass!
Love your videos been doing the step drill and the time I have at the top now feels amazing ( Davis Love backswing speed thrown in) I’ve dropped 3 shots still going !
Let’s freaking gooooo! So excited for you!!
excellent details explaination 👍 and grips tension is crucial on sending the humerus across
Yessir! Agreed!
Enjoyed the vid
Golf newbie from Scotland 🏴
Right on!
Love the video. If this is the basis what is the next video to watch?
I would work through the channel based on your own curiosity and swing needs 🙏
Please do one on the difference btw driver and iron swing
We have that on here already 👍 look up driver vs wedge and it will give you insight on the difference between the two
Pls make a clip show us combining turn and incline ribs. May i confuse there 😊
I like it! 👍👍
Seriously fellas, you guys should be up with the Foley and Cowan. Your info is so easy to take in. America’s version of Piers and Andy. Although they’ve left the uk 😂
So easy to get onboard with your methods.
Fantastic! Thank you so much for the kind words!! ❤
I’m definitely guilty of lifting my arms to where I think they should be in the backswing and then firing my hips because that’s what you see the “pros” do. This explanation of how the arms move up and down and the ribs rotate around a stable base, “produces” a look that resembles a diagonal movement of the club to the ball. Thank you for the great content always!
So glad you enjoyed!
Thump Masters!
Thump city 🌆
Again thank you Riley and TJ for the fantastic videos ! I have gone over most of/ all of your videos numerous times and have made great progress as a new player .
A little confusion regarding the drop of the pelvis . Is the drop from the rib sway ( forward in transition ) , or a drop of the pelvis , then the rib sway or combo of both?
You guys give the best explanation of your preferred system available and always look forward to new videos …. Much appreciated
A combo of both for sure!
Incredible video. As an instructor that teaches the same system I can easily refer this video to my beginner students. There are apparently 13 different golf patterns ie Stacking Tilt, Elephant Trunk, Constant Radius et al. One of the problems with TH-cam videos is that novice golfers don't know which pattern matches the topic of the video, and therefore I tell my students not to look at them unless I make a recommendation. If you were interested, it would be instructional to see Elite Golf Schools do a series of videos showing what makes your pattern different from other patterns, and which pattern suits which player.
Oh man! Very cool idea! Very interested in doing that!
@@elitegolfschools Actually, I think it is more than that. You have the Main System, that is the basics. ie managing the forces. Then you add a Swing Pattern that focuses on 1) getting down to the ball, 2) how you release, and 3) how you shallow. ie Elephant Trunk, Constant radius metal.Even the Driver and Wedge swing can be thought of as a pattern that builds off the Main System. Stalk and Tilt would be a different Main System. This video has changes my approach to teaching.
@@davidbrown2806 fantastic man! Love all of those ideas!!! ❤️🙏
@@davidbrown2806 I came back for your comments. Would you perhaps have the full list of the 13 patterns?
@@Dwu0nbUrYky5yr4U5FA I wish I did ...... it is hard to find., and I have looked. I am going by comments made by Scott Cowx CPGA. Even the President of our CGTF Association has zero on it. However, based on my definition of a Swing Pattern the Driver swing, and the Wedge swing are patterns built on the Main System, since the three elements are different. Is Stalk and Tilt a different Main System or a Swing Pattern ? I think its an important area of study.
With the squat and swing across the chest with the arms how far away at address does the ball need to be ? Great video
Different for everyone depending upon how the move and where pressure moves through the swing 🙏
In the backswing the arms lift. I know you said not to lower them.
But if they go up they have to go down at some point to hit the ball and you cannot keep them up too long otherwise it could result in an out to in path.
Can you please elaborate on when and how the arms should lower?
Probably want to take a look at our ‘don’t lift the arms’ video to get a better concept of what our intention is here.
Also, you can absolutely lower the arms and all great players do. We’re speaking more to the intention of the player. If you choose to do this as an active thought, then we’d like to see that happen around the P4.5/P5 phase. Definitely don’t want the arms lowering actively immediately from the top. Equates to early extension if this happens usually
the hip drop helps a lot on my sequence and rhythm. does the hip drop apply to half / quarter swing pitching? I struggle to control the low point when pitching 30-80 yards. thin or chunk. thanks in advance 🙏🏻 will be great if you guys can make more videos of short game
From watching previous videos of yours my understanding was the main “hit” feel came from active chest rotation once in honey hole. So is the preference now arm adduction/abduction or am I misunderstanding. Could you elaborate more how this blends with chest rotation
Great question. I had the same one. I also remember fat shots came from not rotating the chest enough but in this video I heard more lateral hit to avoid fat contact?
Great question and we’ve heard a lot of this. The answer is… BOTH! However, for each player they will feel this in different ways. Need to identify what player you are first. Do you need more activity in the chest as the intention or do you need to send energy in certain special regions with your arms. However. The best in the world unload everything. Their body systems as well as their arms, hands, and club
@@JoeContrucciexactly! The vertical motion of the arms can either come from stalling the chest (usually coming from improper pelvic movement) or an improper force direction from the arms
@@elitegolfschools Would the arm adduction/abduction be happening just before delivery then? I'm confused about the sequence here, if I try to abduct/adduct actively the shaft gets steep and I lose that perpendicular angle between shaft and spine like you talk about in the global swing principles video. Thank you!
I had the same questions as well.. Following this thread..
This is great! I’ve noticed this weekend doing this that I’m pulling the start line….sometimes pretty significantly. Could that likely be that I’m pulling the arms across too much? Also can you comment on the drop? I assume the more you drop the more level you can fire the arms.
Hey guys I got some great results with this video and the ‘how to use your hands’ video.. my problem is I get a topping the ball problem now that I’m shallow, what can I do to fix ? Thanks!
Try and take a divot in front of the ball
Found you guys this week and love the content. I was stuck trying to actively rotate after the drop and now I know to just fire the arms!!! One question is experimenting at the range with the release if I push with my trail hand and pull towards me at the same time with the lead hand right before strike the ball screams off the face. Should I get away from this release? No one really talks about it.
Absolutely! The butt end of the club should fishhook back toward your navel if the hub is truly a pivot point 🙏
If a player's arms run out too far in the back-swing (a bad habit of mine), can you still make that same move and be thumpy? Or, will you have some problems.
Most likely going to have issues matching those two movements up…
Just to confirm. The ab/aduct action is level (perpendicular to the T spine) with spiral line going up, back and away. The level is not referenced to the ground at P5?
Does the shoulder line (while ducting) than stay aimed to the target for awhile until the spiral line pulls the shoulder line away?
Hope I phrased this OK.
A million thanks
Level is referencing the spine angle not the ground, and the shoulder axis will continue to move while firing the arms… no stall 🙏❤️
@@elitegolfschools one more clarification. When firing the arms are they on a straight line to the target or remain rotating on the same axis as the shoulders? And the ball goes tangent to the target.
@@HenryHooton-u2v they will for sure curve no matter what, but they will curve primarily because of the turning of the body
@@elitegolfschools Thank you so much.
Appreciate the patience!
Information is gold.
@@HenryHooton-u2v of course! Thanks for reaching out!
Does this first drill help with overactive legs? I am really struggling to stop my legs from firing hard when I ramp up past slow motion half swings, I feel like I'm doing a decent job of the other elements you teach, but can't get out of my hard vertical pattern with the legs.
Absolutely! The legs should play a big support role to what is happening in the main system
Is it a left pull, right push or both when the force is sent level?
@@Miked-nf2ub both! Send it all!!!
What about the shallowing piece?
Definitely need to manage this as well but not the purpose of this video ❤️🙏
It’s this Rory or hovland release? Thanks
Anywhere in between those systems is awesome. Both great hitters
Can i feel this arms across move in pitching too? Or is this just a full swing thing?
Pitching would be a mini move
But what happens to sway turn, sway turn? Is that already assumed to be in the swing?
Yes! Definitely still within that system!!
it just feels like when you turn like that the club is automatically gonna go inside? should someone who typically takes the club inside maybe turn less?
Nope, definitely don’t turn less, instead, get the arms lifting earlier 👍
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Anyone else struggling with how low to drop the pelvis? I get to my transition, drop (mini squat), and then swing through the ball. I hit it fat every time. I drop a little less and then I thin (or even miss) the ball.
When you drop move pressure into the lead foot, bottom out issue
@@elitegolfschools Thank you. I will give this a shot. I was def dropping straight down.
@@eddielau7062 fantastic! Keep us posted!
During the back swing are your shoulders slanted or level? How many degrees ? Does it matter ? Thank you guys .
Level to the spine or on slight tilt. However not all do this. Cameron Champ moves into right bend in his backswing 😳 However, our preference for building into this system is lead bend from spiral line movement
Things are coming together but my scoring irons are going too high.
@@television3771 definitely videos on here to help control your traj 🙏❤️
Every golfer out there could break 100 just doing this the whole round. You may have discussed it already and I missed it, but most of us mere mortals won’t be able to do it due to vice grip dead lift effort and tension in every movement in golf swing.
Rename it the Scapula Dracula cuz its scary good🧛🏻
Hmmmmm………the only thing I am questioning is whenever I think arm forward it’s a trainwreck. Not disagreeing, legit guys all recommending arm power in sequence. Is it just a feel of a later release with good arm structure?
@@television3771 as long as the player can match up the arm and body unload then we’re dimed out
"Salt & Pepper and don't even have the steak yet!"
Got to get the main dish down first before making it gourmet 🧑🍳
Working on the drop, do you rotate the pelvis around the rear leg as the tailbone is dropping at 45 degrees back and when landed at P5 would the hips be parallel(0r 0pen?) to the target as the chest begins rotating?
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