Just as reliable as the tacoma and cheaper. I still love tacomas but when i bought my frontier is was essentially 8k less than a taco with same year and miles. Take the extra money and have fun upgrading the frontier
Best midsize truck in the game!! Beautiful design, ultra reliable, durably built. Excellent pickup. Yours look great bro! I’d love to do something similar on mine.
Yea I love the design of the new Frontier, everything about it looks awesome. I love mine, there hasn’t been any major issues. It’s definitely a process, take your time and do it right the first time.
Gran canal. Tengo la Frontier Pro4x 23 en color guinda. Tu troca es genial!!! Yo recién empecé con muy pequeñas modificaciones. Me suscribí a tu canal, es genial! Saludos desde México 🇲🇽
I’ve driven both 3.5 Tacoma and the 3.8 frontier I gotta say u really have to press the gas pedal down on the Tacoma to get it to go. The frontiers just seem to not struggle as much as the Tacomas
I’ve never driven a Tacoma but that seems to be the going trend from other people who went from a Taco to Frontier. I think the 9 Speed Transmission plays a big part in the acceleration difference.
@@D41Mallcrawler yup only thing I would Hate about the frontier is the waterpump is inside the engine driving by the timing chain I want to find a 22-24 base shortcab frontier
thanks, only will get better as time goes on hopefully. This is the first time I built a truck like this, so there has been a lot of testing of different products etc and I hope to pass on my experiences with them onto other owners of the new Frontiers and everyone else in general.
I have the sv model and while I enjoy being sneaky and creeping with my lights off at night, the LED daytime running lights might be all around safer in general. I also want a side step just to make it easier for my wife to get in and out with heels without me worrying too much about her getting in and out. And once I have the side steps I might as well get the roof rack. Which may throw off my fantastic 25 mpg I’ve been getting with just my hard tri fold bed cover. I can’t really think of much I would actually put on the roof of the truck other than a ladder. Maybe for a camping trip I do once or twice a year but as far as daily, I would probably just have a ladder and make space for other tools in the bed.
Yea with all this crap on the truck when I have fully loaded up for camping, with my pelican box and water port up there etc I average from 14-18mpg. Which comparatively speaking isn’t bad compared to most mid sized trucks.
At this point I’d say yes, the Frontier is a Tacoma killer as far as the 4th gen goes. Will it outsell it, not likely but will it last longer and out perform it yes.
Yea I’m going to have to do an updated video of the truck I’ve changed some things around that better suite our needs. That supercharger is definitely going to be pretty awesome! The more stuff I see coming out about the new tacos the happier I am I picked the Frontier.
Yea wasn’t too wild honestly, to get 35’s you’ll need to remove the body mount protector crap in the wheel well and have it boxed in and welded kind of similar to a Tacoma.
Great design and overall functional, but, a fresh air snorkel would have erased doubts crossing streams. So, did you like dealing with Alldogs Offroad outfit? Did they ship the parts and you installed them yourself? I was looking at replacing my factory suspension with the Koni 90 Series Raid Shocks for 2d Gen Nissan Frontier. But, looking for some shop to get it done.
I don’t think anyone makes a snorkel for this truck yet, I think they are kind of more for mitigating dust and crap from entering the intake. I would probably have to make sure everything is waterproof before doing anything like past the rocker panels. I do have the ADO rear differential breather. As for ADO I have only had good experiences with my interactions with them, they are always very attentive to your needs. They answered all my questions I ever asked, no matter how dumb. I did run the Koni 82 series previously and I loved it so I can only imagine the 90 series performs even better. Do you have extra weight like steel bumpers etc? If not I’d say get the 82’s, you can always ask them what they think would ride good for you etc with your specific setup. Changing out the struts and shocks is super easy, if you can I’d suggest doing it yourself you’ll learn a thing or two and if you get the struts pre assembled you literally pop out the current setup and swap them right in.
thanks! Yea they changed a lot of things with the newer 3rd gens it seems. The one thing I do not like though is the newest interior options, I don't think the all black leather and trim pieces is an option anymore I think everything now has the red stitching and trim pieces for the pro-4x. I will say though I honestly love the blue they offer now it looks like the 2nd Gen Blue they used to offer.
Yea initially I was on the fence about the blue but after owning it for a while it has worn off on me. I think it is a pretty unique color compared to most trucks now days.
Haha yea, I noticed the Parabolics squeak a lot. I have gotten used to it. Once it warms up I may take it all apart and clean and re-grease the bushings.
@@D41Mallcrawler that's what I did. Thought they needed grease. So I greased all the bushings. Still squeaked. And typically, rubber bushes don't need a lot of grease, poly does, not rubber. So, then I used spray white lithium grease, applied to the ends of the two springs, where the metal on metal rubs, after those little plastic disc pads break(in about 6 months). And the squeak stopped. Just have to apply the spray grease about once a month. Use the little straw to apply the lube directly between the two metal springs, on each end.
Yea hopefully, later this year I do a big road trip out that way. There isn’t really too much in terms of decent spots around me. I don’t plan on doing anything too crazy in terms of abusing the truck, it’s my only vehicle and my daily. I try to modify this in ways which won’t negatively affect the truck in terms of reliability.
Sold my 2023 pro 4x with 800 miles. Too bulky and steering wheel and turning radius was annoying for me. Got me 2023 trd sports tacoma and now im happy.
@@rockkstah2550 I am Currently running Peak Suspension 2.5 Trial Kit, I think I briefly mentioned it in the video. The rear Leafs are the Alldogs OffRoad Parabolic Leafs.
Any issue with the Z1 Filter not sealing against the grommet at the intake box? It seems mine will move around a bit and then it doesn't seal properly and will pull warm air from the engine. Not ideal.
It does have a bit of play, I do check it regularly though to ensure it does seal to the best of its ability. It makes me wonder if maybe they have improved the grommet design. To be completely honest the entire housing doesn’t exactly fit tight/secure. Maybe it was designed that way to allow for movement, if you off the beaten path and you truck is all over the place idk though.
285/70r17 fits with just trimming the fender flares in the bottom area of the wheel well. Once you go bigger than that though you’ll run into rubbing issues. I think Tacomas and every other midsize truck also need to do some type of modification for larger tires.
Im coming from a jeep and considering the frontier over a tacoma. Just not into cutting anything. You can fit 37’s stock a sport gladiator with no cutting. So was curious if theres a lift out for these yet big enough to get away with no cutting
@@JamesM0M ohhh yea that’s a big difference coming from a Jeep. You can realistically get away with 33’s on the mid sized trucks before running into running issues etc. if you wanted to fit 37’s on these trucks I think you need to make considerable modifications to the wheel wells. I think most lifts for the Frontiers range from 2-3.5” and then there is a 6” kit from rough country, but that lift requires you to cut the cross member and there’s no going back after that. I opted for an adjustable setup that’s set to roughly 3” now, I do get slight rub at full lock under full compression. Now granted you can play around with different wheel offsets etc.
On the 6" kit, you can put on 35s. There's another channel that's done it, and wheels it. Mind you, it's Florida wheelin, but offroad nonetheless. If you want 35s, 37s, best to get the gladiator. Cv axles don't hold up well to all that unsprung weight
yea, it's just surface rust. I was considering wire brushing them and repainting them, but I think if I am consistent with Fluid Film each winter it should remain the same. Those have been through 3 northeast winters and an assload of road salt and sand. I m pretty sure anything will have some type of surface rust and wear from that.
You either need a relay for the circuit or solder in a diode. The amperage will burn out the switch surprisingly. I wasn’t aware of that when I initially installed them and used just the normal harness that came with my older heretic harness for the ditch lights. Was just a power and ground to the switch and power out to the lights.
@@D41Mallcrawler OK I gotcha, your ditch lights just didn't come with a relay built into the harness. My light bars will have a relay and I should be good to go with those AOB switches.
I had them set it up the same way they did for the CBI Frontier. We went back and forth about how much weight I estimate I’ve added to the truck etc. they tuned the suspension with the low and high speed accordingly and used their 600# spring. with all that said I have roughly 3” of lift up front and ~ 2” and out back with the parabolic leaf springs. It rides super nice for all the added weight I run.
To each their own man. I am merely trying to make people realize there is a much cheaper option than the newest generation of the Toyota Suv/Midsize truck.
Who knows honestly, it seems a lot of people are leery of the newer powertrain/drivetrain of them. I could be wrong here but I think the Frontier puts down the most power for midsized trucks with NA engines. With the pro4x trim too, you would be hard pressed to find a truck in that price range with those options.
@@D41Mallcrawleryou do have very valid points. The frontier is a solid truck with a lot to offer. I think there are too many Tacoma fanboys. I think Toyota would be the Tacoma killer by the make over of the Tacoma. Doesn’t seem that the male over is a hit. We will see.
I haven't bought a front locker if that is what you're asking. In terms of diffs, I have whatever it came with from the factory and haven't had any issues with the E locker it comes with. I don't do any crazy wheeling only moderate stuff, I daily this and it's my only vehicle so I try to modify it while still keeping it drivable for day to day driving.
@@D41Mallcrawlerjoking brotha, Frontier just isn’t for me… I like the power numbers but not worth it imo over the reliability,looks, and resale value of a Toyota
@@Jordan-ql8pv you go ahead and spend your money on a basic 4 cylinder I just drove by my local Toyota dealer and it seems they’re trying to sell yall the cheapest tacomas for close to 50k
Just as reliable as the tacoma and cheaper. I still love tacomas but when i bought my frontier is was essentially 8k less than a taco with same year and miles. Take the extra money and have fun upgrading the frontier
yea 100% agree especially in lieu of all the issues that Toyota has been having lately with their. new vehicles.
Best midsize truck in the game!! Beautiful design, ultra reliable, durably built. Excellent pickup. Yours look great bro! I’d love to do something similar on mine.
Yea I love the design of the new Frontier, everything about it looks awesome. I love mine, there hasn’t been any major issues. It’s definitely a process, take your time and do it right the first time.
That’s my second choice if I didn’t get a Tacoma 😃. Nice Frontier!
Yea I was initially looking At the Tacoma, for the price I paid for the options I got I could t turn it down.
@@D41Mallcrawler Tacoma + Frontier can’t go wrong! 😃
Gran canal. Tengo la Frontier Pro4x 23 en color guinda. Tu troca es genial!!! Yo recién empecé con muy pequeñas modificaciones. Me suscribí a tu canal, es genial! Saludos desde México 🇲🇽
I’ve driven both 3.5 Tacoma and the 3.8 frontier I gotta say u really have to press the gas pedal down on the Tacoma to get it to go. The frontiers just seem to not struggle as much as the Tacomas
I’ve never driven a Tacoma but that seems to be the going trend from other people who went from a Taco to Frontier. I think the 9 Speed Transmission plays a big part in the acceleration difference.
@@D41Mallcrawler yup only thing I would Hate about the frontier is the waterpump is inside the engine driving by the timing chain I want to find a 22-24 base shortcab frontier
I have my king cab on order....mid May.
Awesome! are all the King Cabs Long beds?
@@D41Mallcrawleryes they are
Do an adventure vlog! Let’s see this thing in action. Sweet truck.
I plan on doing something like that once I’m out of the Army and have some free time.
Gonna have to try out the Z1 supercharger.
Yea definitely interested in it for sure.
Bad ass truck! Really nice!
thanks, only will get better as time goes on hopefully. This is the first time I built a truck like this, so there has been a lot of testing of different products etc and I hope to pass on my experiences with them onto other owners of the new Frontiers and everyone else in general.
I have the sv model and while I enjoy being sneaky and creeping with my lights off at night, the LED daytime running lights might be all around safer in general. I also want a side step just to make it easier for my wife to get in and out with heels without me worrying too much about her getting in and out. And once I have the side steps I might as well get the roof rack. Which may throw off my fantastic 25 mpg I’ve been getting with just my hard tri fold bed cover. I can’t really think of much I would actually put on the roof of the truck other than a ladder. Maybe for a camping trip I do once or twice a year but as far as daily, I would probably just have a ladder and make space for other tools in the bed.
Yea with all this crap on the truck when I have fully loaded up for camping, with my pelican box and water port up there etc I average from 14-18mpg. Which comparatively speaking isn’t bad compared to most mid sized trucks.
If you are interested in side steps I’m looking to sell mine… where are you located?
At this point I’d say yes, the Frontier is a Tacoma killer as far as the 4th gen goes. Will it outsell it, not likely but will it last longer and out perform it yes.
I think eventually people will start to cross over to the Frontier platform after all the issues that the new Tacomas are having.
Pretty killer setup.
thanks, I have changed it up a bit since the last video and I will more than likely be doing another video soon.
Beautiful build, brother. Truck looks great.
thanks !
Loving my d41 pro 4x great looking truck outside and inside. Z1 supercharger will take this to another level lol cant wait
Yea I’m going to have to do an updated video of the truck I’ve changed some things around that better suite our needs. That supercharger is definitely going to be pretty awesome! The more stuff I see coming out about the new tacos the happier I am I picked the Frontier.
@@D41Mallcrawler yessir!
Now that titan is dead they should make the frontier bigger. Keep the six, make the interior volume larger and box a bit bigger.
That would be pretty sweet
Imagine the Titan V8 in a Frontier. Nissan world crush the competition.
@@endlessnameless3996 I would buy that !!
Nice build. Doesn't look like you had to cut to much. Im still running on stock wheels and suspension on my 3rd gen.
Yea wasn’t too wild honestly, to get 35’s you’ll need to remove the body mount protector crap in the wheel well and have it boxed in and welded kind of similar to a Tacoma.
Truck is awesome, are you located in upstate New York by chance? I could’ve sworn I seen this truck earlier today
haha yes I am actually. I am stationed up here currently, but I'll be leaving in maybe like two more months.
Great design and overall functional, but, a fresh air snorkel would have erased doubts crossing streams. So, did you like dealing with Alldogs Offroad outfit? Did they ship the parts and you installed them yourself? I was looking at replacing my factory suspension with the Koni 90 Series Raid Shocks for 2d Gen Nissan Frontier. But, looking for some shop to get it done.
I don’t think anyone makes a snorkel for this truck yet, I think they are kind of more for mitigating dust and crap from entering the intake. I would probably have to make sure everything is waterproof before doing anything like past the rocker panels. I do have the ADO rear differential breather. As for ADO I have only had good experiences with my interactions with them, they are always very attentive to your needs. They answered all my questions I ever asked, no matter how dumb. I did run the Koni 82 series previously and I loved it so I can only imagine the 90 series performs even better. Do you have extra weight like steel bumpers etc? If not I’d say get the 82’s, you can always ask them what they think would ride good for you etc with your specific setup. Changing out the struts and shocks is super easy, if you can I’d suggest doing it yourself you’ll learn a thing or two and if you get the struts pre assembled you literally pop out the current setup and swap them right in.
❤ Loving that truck. They don’t have that dark blue available anymore😢
thanks! Yea they changed a lot of things with the newer 3rd gens it seems. The one thing I do not like though is the newest interior options, I don't think the all black leather and trim pieces is an option anymore I think everything now has the red stitching and trim pieces for the pro-4x. I will say though I honestly love the blue they offer now it looks like the 2nd Gen Blue they used to offer.
I love the blue color, i bought the green. Next one will be blue lol
Yea initially I was on the fence about the blue but after owning it for a while it has worn off on me. I think it is a pretty unique color compared to most trucks now days.
Nice truck man. do your rear leaf springs squeak at all?
Haha yea, I noticed the Parabolics squeak a lot. I have gotten used to it. Once it warms up I may take it all apart and clean and re-grease the bushings.
@@D41Mallcrawler that's what I did. Thought they needed grease. So I greased all the bushings. Still squeaked. And typically, rubber bushes don't need a lot of grease, poly does, not rubber. So, then I used spray white lithium grease, applied to the ends of the two springs, where the metal on metal rubs, after those little plastic disc pads break(in about 6 months). And the squeak stopped. Just have to apply the spray grease about once a month. Use the little straw to apply the lube directly between the two metal springs, on each end.
That is clean! That would be perfect out here in the Mojave & Colorado deserts in CA.!!!
Yea hopefully, later this year I do a big road trip out that way. There isn’t really too much in terms of decent spots around me. I don’t plan on doing anything too crazy in terms of abusing the truck, it’s my only vehicle and my daily. I try to modify this in ways which won’t negatively affect the truck in terms of reliability.
Question: for your hitch light; does your hitch have that plate on it? If so, what did you do to get the wiring through for the light? Thanks
Yea the back of my hitch had the very small hole in the rear of it. I had to use a drill bit to enlarge it to fit the DT plug through.
Ah okay. That seems to be the best way. Thanks again. Your truck is awesome. Great work and mods. @D41Mallcrawler
Nice build.... looks great
Thanks!
Sold my 2023 pro 4x with 800 miles. Too bulky and steering wheel and turning radius was annoying for me. Got me 2023 trd sports tacoma and now im happy.
apples to oranges
Such a great looking rig! I want to see it out on the trail!
Thanks dude! Yea there ain't much around here in terms of trails. Im looking forward to a big road trip this summer though, once I'm out of the Army.
How much suspension lift do you have?
Roughly like 3” up front and maybe close to 1.75” in the rear give or take
What lift kit did you use?
@@rockkstah2550 I am Currently running Peak Suspension 2.5 Trial Kit, I think I briefly mentioned it in the video. The rear Leafs are the Alldogs OffRoad Parabolic Leafs.
@@D41Mallcrawler thank you!
Any issue with the Z1 Filter not sealing against the grommet at the intake box? It seems mine will move around a bit and then it doesn't seal properly and will pull warm air from the engine. Not ideal.
It does have a bit of play, I do check it regularly though to ensure it does seal to the best of its ability. It makes me wonder if maybe they have improved the grommet design. To be completely honest the entire housing doesn’t exactly fit tight/secure. Maybe it was designed that way to allow for movement, if you off the beaten path and you truck is all over the place idk though.
@@D41MallcrawlerApparently they have a V2 Design out. Reach out to Justin@z1 off road via the forum and he should be able to set you up.
Thanks a ton for that info, Z1 got me all squared away. That’s the one thing that Z1 does great, their customer service kicks ass.
@@D41Mallcrawler Glad to hear it!
Jus curious but can these trucks not be lifted enough to clear these size tires without cutting?
285/70r17 fits with just trimming the fender flares in the bottom area of the wheel well. Once you go bigger than that though you’ll run into rubbing issues. I think Tacomas and every other midsize truck also need to do some type of modification for larger tires.
Im coming from a jeep and considering the frontier over a tacoma. Just not into cutting anything. You can fit 37’s stock a sport gladiator with no cutting. So was curious if theres a lift out for these yet big enough to get away with no cutting
@@JamesM0M ohhh yea that’s a big difference coming from a Jeep. You can realistically get away with 33’s on the mid sized trucks before running into running issues etc. if you wanted to fit 37’s on these trucks I think you need to make considerable modifications to the wheel wells. I think most lifts for the Frontiers range from 2-3.5” and then there is a 6” kit from rough country, but that lift requires you to cut the cross member and there’s no going back after that. I opted for an adjustable setup that’s set to roughly 3” now, I do get slight rub at full lock under full compression. Now granted you can play around with different wheel offsets etc.
@@JamesM0M there is a 6” lift kit available for the Frontier.
On the 6" kit, you can put on 35s. There's another channel that's done it, and wheels it. Mind you, it's Florida wheelin, but offroad nonetheless. If you want 35s, 37s, best to get the gladiator. Cv axles don't hold up well to all that unsprung weight
A lot of rust on the upper control arms
yea, it's just surface rust. I was considering wire brushing them and repainting them, but I think if I am consistent with Fluid Film each winter it should remain the same. Those have been through 3 northeast winters and an assload of road salt and sand. I m pretty sure anything will have some type of surface rust and wear from that.
Yeah sick ride man. Really like the stance.
Appreciate it!
Why do you need a relay for those AOB switches? Isn't the power going to those extremely low?
You either need a relay for the circuit or solder in a diode. The amperage will burn out the switch surprisingly. I wasn’t aware of that when I initially installed them and used just the normal harness that came with my older heretic harness for the ditch lights. Was just a power and ground to the switch and power out to the lights.
@@D41Mallcrawler OK I gotcha, your ditch lights just didn't come with a relay built into the harness. My light bars will have a relay and I should be good to go with those AOB switches.
Yea was the first time I ever got a harness from a manufacturer that didn’t have a relay built into it honestly
How much lift are you getting from this set up?
I had them set it up the same way they did for the CBI Frontier. We went back and forth about how much weight I estimate I’ve added to the truck etc. they tuned the suspension with the low and high speed accordingly and used their 600# spring. with all that said I have roughly 3” of lift up front and ~ 2” and out back with the parabolic leaf springs. It rides super nice for all the added weight I run.
@@D41Mallcrawler very informative thanks brotha 💪
Yea just ordered a Toyota and after looking at most of the truck dealers, I never even considered the Nissan. So no the answer is no.
To each their own man. I am merely trying to make people realize there is a much cheaper option than the newest generation of the Toyota Suv/Midsize truck.
Made in Mexico lol
@@vincentlee9954as far as I know the frontiers are assembled in America unless you’re talking about the taco
@@D41Mallcrawler taco lol
Doubt it will be a Tacoma killer. Maybe and a big maybe a good runner up. Second place behind the Tacoma.
Who knows honestly, it seems a lot of people are leery of the newer powertrain/drivetrain of them. I could be wrong here but I think the Frontier puts down the most power for midsized trucks with NA engines. With the pro4x trim too, you would be hard pressed to find a truck in that price range with those options.
@@D41Mallcrawleryou do have very valid points. The frontier is a solid truck with a lot to offer. I think there are too many Tacoma fanboys. I think Toyota would be the Tacoma killer by the make over of the Tacoma. Doesn’t seem that the male over is a hit. We will see.
every random option in the catalog. Lockers?
I haven't bought a front locker if that is what you're asking. In terms of diffs, I have whatever it came with from the factory and haven't had any issues with the E locker it comes with. I don't do any crazy wheeling only moderate stuff, I daily this and it's my only vehicle so I try to modify it while still keeping it drivable for day to day driving.
intro music killed my ears
noted
Can I have that truck?
maybe one day lol
No.. Taco wannabe
or maybe it's just a Frontier lol, if I wanted a Tacoma I would've bought a Tacoma not a Frontier.
@@D41Mallcrawlerjoking brotha, Frontier just isn’t for me… I like the power numbers but not worth it imo over the reliability,looks, and resale value of a Toyota
No need to watch the video. The answer is no.
The fact you clicked this video shows your insecurity for your porr little Yota.
I’ve owned both I got tired of the slow Tacoma fast and my back thanked me to
@@Adriangee818 Except the new Taco batters the Frontier in a drag race, and they fixed the seats too. So the old arguments no longer stand.
Good luck with your turbo 4 banging Toyota.
@@Jordan-ql8pv you go ahead and spend your money on a basic 4 cylinder I just drove by my local Toyota dealer and it seems they’re trying to sell yall the cheapest tacomas for close to 50k