I believe there is some sort of security built into these that locks the SD card to your car the first time you plug it in. So while cloning it worked for your car, I doubt it will work plugged into another Mazda 3. Still might be worth doing the backup if you care about the Nav though. The SD card can fail and having Mazda replace it is a bigger pain than cloning the card.
my guess is when he cloned the card he only cloned the main partition theres probably some hidden partitions on the card that it uses when he used the mazda tool it detected the main partition and lack of other parittions and attempted a rebuild to the card
I've heard there is something that "marries" the SD card to your VIN once you've had it in the car for a certain number of miles. I have no way to test the card in a different car but I believe you're right in that it'll only work in mine. I'm just glad to have a backup in case the OEM one eats shit
Its Bringus though, I personally wouldnt assume linux + into cars, but more of a ... if its electronic and has an entry point .... i will hack it (and maybe put linux on it. But maybe not put linux in your car. But maybe he'll put steamOS on it before selling it for the LOLs)
The SD card has a serial number and after driving with the card for 30miles/50kms the number will be associated with the VIN of the vehicle, and cannot be used in other vehicles. So it will be useful to backup your card, but won't be useful to upgrade other cars without sat nav.
Hyundai does it a lot better, they tell you in the manual to buy a quality 32GB (no bigger no smaller) non micro SD card and make your own with any pc and a SD card reader. It's so easy I leave a backup card in the glovebox.
1) First off, did you take out the SD card _while the car was on?_ It probably had files open. 2) The Mazda Toolbox lets you make a backup of the SD card. You can restore it that way, too. 3) The card comes from the factory "unlocked". Put it in the vehicle and after driving it for a while (60 miles?) it stores the VIN on the card so you can't swap it to a different vehicle. 4) I've replaced the cards in two different Mazdas, using the Toolbox under Windows. Make sure to format the new card to the same type as the old (FAT32 is what I had) and literally just copied the files from the old card to a folder on my computer, then over to the new card. I increased the size of the SD, no issues. 5) Two tips: Make sure the new SD card is at least as fast as the old one. It seemed to improve startup and access time on the navigation system. Also make sure the new SD card will hanfle the temperature range for a vehicle. I found on clearance a two-pack of card intended for hunting trail cameras and used them. I'd previously hit a problem with a USB flash drive holding MP3 files that would get corrupted from the heat and cold. I took that experience and applied it to the Nav cards, just in case. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Good luck to all trying to understand and suport their Mazda Nav systems!
A $450 normal sd card is required for no reason. Mazda is out of their minds. I can’t get rid of my old car no way I could live with this insanity. Good video, stick it to the man!
It's literally any other car brand doing this shit. For example Nissan, I can be sure in Nissan Leaf 2011-Now when saying this. With 'advanced' multimedia equipped it fully relays on SD Card. If it's not there - whole screen just doesn't work. There are plenty of people who do cards restore but still pricy af because of that policy from car manufactures.
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom They get a VIN lock approximately after the first 50 KM, according to others in this comment section. The second that VIN lock is applied, it can't be used in another vehicle. You'd need one mint, as they come "unlocked" from the factory.
I'm a fellow mazda boy and I learned that there's a community made SDK and custom software for the infotainment systems (or at least the last gen ones). I really want to port doom to it, since it's just CSS/Javascript
@@vaggeliskalogirou2257 my source was mazdatweaks. I have a 2019 with the older infotainment, so it would work for me. Not too sure about the newer ones.
Older fords have a similar thing except it’s not as easy to back them up. You have to have a computer with an as card reader already in it because as to usb converters won’t tell you the internal serial id number, then you have to use Linux to find the number because windows won’t let you find it, then you have to use a sketchy fordkeygenerator file I found on a Spanish website to create a key file with that serial id number and put it in the sd. There’s also little documentation on it so I had to figure most of it out on my own
NOAA weather radio would be impossible without the specific tuner inside the car. Older (I think mid-2000s) subaru models actually had a WX band tuner in the stock radio just for this purpose. It's something I wish more vehicles would have.
Hey man bluring your screen isn’t lossless in a lot of cases. I would recommend you double check whatever process you used to blur your car screen. You wouldn’t want any P didilers to pull up to your house
Is your car less than three years old?, The mazda toolbox updates are only available for 3 years from new, or you have to pay for them currently 183 Euros, or a single update at 113 Euros.
We get really good usb sticks and sd cards that are like name brand all the time for dirt cheap from my dad’s work b/c he works at a Hyundai dealer and they get the updates on them.
The issue is the image you took is of an SD card that the car has written (paired) to. If you do some digging you can find the original image that can be cloned.
they lock the id to a database tied to the car so when u try to throw it in another card it doesnt work, ali express has them for like 50-60$ cad so im gonna get that. my car didnt have carplay from the factory but has the touchscreen, 60$ and the interior ripped apart i had android auto and carplay. most mazda parts and accessories you can find identically (part no too) for much cheaper
Hey Bringus, what are the chances on another OG Xbox video? And in your last one, why didn't you use an SSD in it? I'm guessing because it's only an audio difference for the OG Xbox?
As I understand it; the reason for the high cost of the SD card is because they update the map data over time; and that does cost money. Whether that's worth $450 is up to you; but it's not straight up a scam. At least that's the case for my Nissan; which uses SD cards for the navigation in a similar manner.
Did you get Toolbox running on Wine, or use a Windows VM? All I get in Wine (Debian Bookworm) is an all-black window. Tried some different options in winecfg, but no luck yet. (Might try reinstall after switching Win version maybe...)
For anyone else, don't waste time with Wine, not sure why it doesn't work, but spin up a Win VM. Can also confirm that this works for increasing available size. My original card was too small (~7500 MB) to get the newest European map update onto it. Made a copy to a 16 GB card with this method, let Toolbox do it's thing, then resized the partition with Gnome Disks. Toolbox now reports the new size and doesn't seem bothered. I haven't yet bought the map update, but unless they're very sneaky looks like it should work fine.
Just trying to add: you are not paying $500 for the SD card, but for the 3 years of updates that you get with it. Mazda relies on another company for map data.
My card, after using this DD clone method or another Windows application cloner, is not recognized by the Mazda Toolbox; it hangs on SD card recognition
I kind of appreciate them using an sd card for storage. It’s standardized, reliable, and user serviceable. But fucking 400 bucks and DRM? Can’t have anything nice.
I once popped my SD card from my Nissan into my computer just to look at what was on there. I found the background inage of the menus as a bmp, I edited the image and popped the SD card back into the card. Head unit would not recognize the card anymore. Tried restoring the file to original (had backups), no luck. Head unit lost many features, wouldn't even remember Bluetooth pairing, time, etc. After a month of trying I finally had to pay roughly $400 to get an update SD card... I will NOT be playing with that card anymore
What's funny about these videos is have some old bootable Swiss Army Knife CDs that do the same kind of thing but will not work since thier Master Boot Record (MBR) tools so they don't work on UEFI systems.
Anyone find a android head unit that has a snapdragon 845? I want to install mobile nixos on one. Hoping to savvy up a 09 Mazda 5 (manual of course). Absolutely would prefer keeping the cd drive installed behind the screen. One can dream.
The most of car brands using CID protecting (Infotainment reading only specific CID) I'm surprised that New mazda leaved this kind of protection, because it's pricely shieet
I believe there is some sort of security built into these that locks the SD card to your car the first time you plug it in. So while cloning it worked for your car, I doubt it will work plugged into another Mazda 3. Still might be worth doing the backup if you care about the Nav though. The SD card can fail and having Mazda replace it is a bigger pain than cloning the card.
In that case you would just need to clone a new one?
my guess is when he cloned the card he only cloned the main partition theres probably some hidden partitions on the card that it uses
when he used the mazda tool it detected the main partition and lack of other parittions and attempted a rebuild to the card
@@Sarge92 Using DD on the root block device instead of a specific partition will copy over any partitions, hidden or otherwise. So no, that's not it.
@@niiiiiiisse Yeah DD should copy the raw content on the disk not just the files
I've heard there is something that "marries" the SD card to your VIN once you've had it in the car for a certain number of miles. I have no way to test the card in a different car but I believe you're right in that it'll only work in mine. I'm just glad to have a backup in case the OEM one eats shit
i never thought i'd find someone both into linux and cars but here we are
There's gotta be tens of us
A rare breed. ;-)
There are quite a few of us in IT...
Its Bringus though, I personally wouldnt assume linux + into cars, but more of a ... if its electronic and has an entry point .... i will hack it (and maybe put linux on it. But maybe not put linux in your car. But maybe he'll put steamOS on it before selling it for the LOLs)
idk pretty common in IT at least in Aus. Theres a surprising amount of overlap
AND ITS THE MANUAL 3 YOU TOTAL CHAD ❤❤
gg
The SD card has a serial number and after driving with the card for 30miles/50kms the number will be associated with the VIN of the vehicle, and cannot be used in other vehicles. So it will be useful to backup your card, but won't be useful to upgrade other cars without sat nav.
it stores the key in a license file on the sd and the car reads it. mod the files on the disk and boom works
$400 32GB sd card and shitty map. Very awesome. So many things are outright scams now.
It's even worse, it's 499$ 😢
Hyundai does it a lot better, they tell you in the manual to buy a quality 32GB (no bigger no smaller) non micro SD card and make your own with any pc and a SD card reader.
It's so easy I leave a backup card in the glovebox.
Yeah no disrespect to OP because this vid is cool asf but man Mazda fell off
the price is WHAT
welcome to the world of dealer pricing.
@@OmairArif I don't want to live on this planet anymore XD
@@kobalt_ren01 People have cloned these cards and sell them for $40 on amazon.
@@kobalt_ren01none of us do. There’s almost as many Nintendo Switch Sports sales as Wii U sales.
It also shows navigation directions on the HUD, android auto and CarPlay don’t. That’s kinda why it’s so expensive.
1) First off, did you take out the SD card _while the car was on?_ It probably had files open.
2) The Mazda Toolbox lets you make a backup of the SD card. You can restore it that way, too.
3) The card comes from the factory "unlocked". Put it in the vehicle and after driving it for a while (60 miles?) it stores the VIN on the card so you can't swap it to a different vehicle.
4) I've replaced the cards in two different Mazdas, using the Toolbox under Windows. Make sure to format the new card to the same type as the old (FAT32 is what I had) and literally just copied the files from the old card to a folder on my computer, then over to the new card. I increased the size of the SD, no issues.
5) Two tips:
Make sure the new SD card is at least as fast as the old one. It seemed to improve startup and access time on the navigation system.
Also make sure the new SD card will hanfle the temperature range for a vehicle. I found on clearance a two-pack of card intended for hunting trail cameras and used them. I'd previously hit a problem with a USB flash drive holding MP3 files that would get corrupted from the heat and cold. I took that experience and applied it to the Nav cards, just in case.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good luck to all trying to understand and suport their Mazda Nav systems!
@beapippin1110 Unfortunately even if that wasn't the intent, that's likely what some people will try to do.
for some reason i read this as flashing Linux onto the SD card and running Linux on the car
That is a very Bringus thing to do
@@Ultima_Atulos_Maxim honestly, it is
it is also a very me thing to do, flashing something with Linux
The car is running Linux. look in the installation guide for MZD-AIO-TI.
Bro you're a Mazda man, a man of fellow taste.
Nah, buying something from a company that pulls shit like this is in very poor taste.
@@ErdrickHero but miat.
@@ErdrickHero also most new car companies suck
@@christopherlanger3159 so buy an old car, they are easier to maintain anyway.
@@ErdrickHero I agree, I like the older Miata, but the newer ones are going to unfortunately be the "old" ones later on
A $450 normal sd card is required for no reason. Mazda is out of their minds. I can’t get rid of my old car no way I could live with this insanity. Good video, stick it to the man!
It's literally any other car brand doing this shit. For example Nissan, I can be sure in Nissan Leaf 2011-Now when saying this. With 'advanced' multimedia equipped it fully relays on SD Card. If it's not there - whole screen just doesn't work. There are plenty of people who do cards restore but still pricy af because of that policy from car manufactures.
I’m glad they at least allow us to flash our own cards, while also marking up the prices on pre-flashed cards.
TH-cam recommended, I watched, I enjoyed, I subscribed.
Now u can just sell the old one and get £500 😂
Or clone TF out of the original and sell copies for 50$ each at the eBay
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom 🤑🤑💰💰
@@IgorGiganskiANtiatom They get a VIN lock approximately after the first 50 KM, according to others in this comment section. The second that VIN lock is applied, it can't be used in another vehicle. You'd need one mint, as they come "unlocked" from the factory.
All online retailers like eBay and Mercari remove these from the platforms. Trust me, I’ve tried to sell them.
Can't wait to sacrifice my sandisk sdcard for a Mazda brand sd card!!!
I noticed my car has an sd for the maps too. I drive a lexus. Wonder if it would work similarly. Save a lot of money once the old sd goes out.
I'm a fellow mazda boy and I learned that there's a community made SDK and custom software for the infotainment systems (or at least the last gen ones). I really want to port doom to it, since it's just CSS/Javascript
Care to point to that? I'm very into custom firmware and stuff. Mazda aio tweaks has been dropped as far as I know
@@vaggeliskalogirou2257 my source was mazdatweaks. I have a 2019 with the older infotainment, so it would work for me. Not too sure about the newer ones.
Fun fact. SD stands for secure digital. It's meant to be copy protected.
this is more entertaining than it should be
Are you sure that the navigation isn’t just an updated tomtom navigation system? That’s what the older Mazdas and other cars with nav used
Older fords have a similar thing except it’s not as easy to back them up. You have to have a computer with an as card reader already in it because as to usb converters won’t tell you the internal serial id number, then you have to use Linux to find the number because windows won’t let you find it, then you have to use a sketchy fordkeygenerator file I found on a Spanish website to create a key file with that serial id number and put it in the sd. There’s also little documentation on it so I had to figure most of it out on my own
Mazdas and Linux - love both!
In a VW you have a SD-Card for the Navi-Files too.
But you can download all Map-files from VW directly and put it on a normal SD-Card
No clue why this was on my recommended as I don't drive a Mazda and I don't uses Linux but nice vid I found it very interesting
Oh my goodness I’m fairly certain I used to work at the shop that imaged those cards!
Now to see if we can mod car infotainment to add unofficial features like NOAA Weather Radio, or themes
NOAA weather radio would be impossible without the specific tuner inside the car. Older (I think mid-2000s) subaru models actually had a WX band tuner in the stock radio just for this purpose. It's something I wish more vehicles would have.
Hey man bluring your screen isn’t lossless in a lot of cases. I would recommend you double check whatever process you used to blur your car screen. You wouldn’t want any P didilers to pull up to your house
Is your car less than three years old?, The mazda toolbox updates are only available for 3 years from new, or you have to pay for them currently 183 Euros, or a single update at 113 Euros.
Yup my Cx 5 2021 Amazon bought Sd card expires late 2024....Can I buy a new one after that?
Mazda 3 has always been my favorite car.
We get really good usb sticks and sd cards that are like name brand all the time for dirt cheap from my dad’s work b/c he works at a Hyundai dealer and they get the updates on them.
i have a mazda cx5 without the nav card, i wonder if this would work on my car?
Buy the one for your. Year model
I watch your videos while sitting in MY mazda 3 hatchback, she’s white, and she was made in 2013 but i have a similar car 🥹
The issue is the image you took is of an SD card that the car has written (paired) to. If you do some digging you can find the original image that can be cloned.
"Scam the SHIT out of my car!" LMAO
I drive a manual Mazda 3 too! Respect.
they lock the id to a database tied to the car so when u try to throw it in another card it doesnt work, ali express has them for like 50-60$ cad so im gonna get that. my car didnt have carplay from the factory but has the touchscreen, 60$ and the interior ripped apart i had android auto and carplay. most mazda parts and accessories you can find identically (part no too) for much cheaper
Hey Bringus, what are the chances on another OG Xbox video? And in your last one, why didn't you use an SSD in it? I'm guessing because it's only an audio difference for the OG Xbox?
Maybe its like a playstation manual update file on a usb stick where it would have the file locations labeled or something
Maybe you can try to make a diff from both cards. I guess, the toolbox updates some file to match the sdcard serial or something.
As I understand it; the reason for the high cost of the SD card is because they update the map data over time; and that does cost money. Whether that's worth $450 is up to you; but it's not straight up a scam. At least that's the case for my Nissan; which uses SD cards for the navigation in a similar manner.
How about Toyota Priuses with their B9011 to B9029 units and their IDE HDD maps?
Awesome video! I have a CX-5 and was wondering how I could get a new card with an updated map without paying $500, I'll have to try the toolbox.
Its perfect just the way it is🗣🔥🔥
Just by the title, I already knew dd would be involved 😂
Did you get Toolbox running on Wine, or use a Windows VM? All I get in Wine (Debian Bookworm) is an all-black window. Tried some different options in winecfg, but no luck yet. (Might try reinstall after switching Win version maybe...)
For anyone else, don't waste time with Wine, not sure why it doesn't work, but spin up a Win VM.
Can also confirm that this works for increasing available size.
My original card was too small (~7500 MB) to get the newest European map update onto it.
Made a copy to a 16 GB card with this method, let Toolbox do it's thing, then resized the partition with Gnome Disks. Toolbox now reports the new size and doesn't seem bothered.
I haven't yet bought the map update, but unless they're very sneaky looks like it should work fine.
I think it's really funny there's car branded SD card out there
Just trying to add: you are not paying $500 for the SD card, but for the 3 years of updates that you get with it. Mazda relies on another company for map data.
I'm a simple man, I see mazda 3 I sub
My card, after using this DD clone method or another Windows application cloner, is not recognized by the Mazda Toolbox; it hangs on SD card recognition
What Linux distro are you using in the video?
looks like ubuntu
Pop Os
Is there an app for GM vehicles?
I wonder if there's some way to put openstreetmap data into these car navigation systems
Yo, when I see a magazine in this men’s center console
i did this with ford sync, you must somehow to insert the serial number of the sd card into the data files.
I don't own any Mazdas but, messing with cars in Linux is too cool to pass by
What linux distro do you use?
I'm curious what exactly was changed (besides obviously the map udpate)
I kind of appreciate them using an sd card for storage. It’s standardized, reliable, and user serviceable. But fucking 400 bucks and DRM? Can’t have anything nice.
it could be reading the vendor of the sd card
Which Mazda Model and year do you have?
im going to cherish this information in the event that I run into a mazda owner who needs a new nav card
but can you put SteamOS on the Mazda??!
I once popped my SD card from my Nissan into my computer just to look at what was on there. I found the background inage of the menus as a bmp, I edited the image and popped the SD card back into the card. Head unit would not recognize the card anymore. Tried restoring the file to original (had backups), no luck. Head unit lost many features, wouldn't even remember Bluetooth pairing, time, etc. After a month of trying I finally had to pay roughly $400 to get an update SD card... I will NOT be playing with that card anymore
thats why not everyone should be doing it, if you dont know what you doing. don't do it.
You should maybe setup a media fire link or mega just in case the download gets removed from the Mazda site
can you play half life on the infotainment tho?
Is that a Zephyrus G14? How Linux compatible is that thing? any issues?
Could you upload the file data into the cloud so us mortals can create our own SD? 🙏
Can you share a copy of the stuff inside?
Can you share your backup please ? I lost my original Mazda SD card and I need to create a clone asap
Wow, that's one heck of an expensive SD card. $450?!
Please do pcap on the usb traffic the Mazda application does
Man downloaded a car.
You wouldn't download a Mazda SD card...
Diff the images of the cards. And the contents on the FS (mount in ro)
mazdagang except i have a 3rd gen. much better in my eyes, but subjective
I believe it's the same thing with Toyota 😶
You can do it only for older models of toyota nav systems like 2014-2008
@melldiredi2416
I mean, it has a very expensive sd card for the navigation system, I don't know if you can clone it 🤷
@@melldiredi2416what’s the process for that? It always wants me to pay first before doing the update on the sd card
Yup, Toyota/Scion, Mazda, Kia, Hyundai, Subaru, Slingshot, Indian... These were the brands my team worked on
Probably detected a "corrupt" serial number in some config file
Does the Software also run with wine?
You just earned a Subscribe
Unsure why gzip/gunzip was necessary here.
This...does not satisfy. I must know why and how. The system must be hacked
anyone else notice the Magazine in the center console?
I gaurentee you there’s people that have rips of the software on the ad card and all the files you can install for free on any $5 32gb sd card.
What's funny about these videos is have some old bootable Swiss Army Knife CDs that do the same kind of thing but will not work since thier Master Boot Record (MBR) tools so they don't work on UEFI systems.
SD cards would be no different to MMC cards if it weren't for the fact that SD cards have support for DRM.
Anyone find a android head unit that has a snapdragon 845? I want to install mobile nixos on one. Hoping to savvy up a 09 Mazda 5 (manual of course). Absolutely would prefer keeping the cd drive installed behind the screen. One can dream.
I bought one of these from eBay and it's probably not real. It doesn't help that the updater tool likes to flag real SD cards as fake.
I remeber finding that shit out in some family members' cars.
i think i stole a couple of these from a dealership years ago
Seeing a Zephyrus G14 running Linux gave me emotional damage
The most of car brands using CID protecting (Infotainment reading only specific CID) I'm surprised that New mazda leaved this kind of protection, because it's pricely shieet
dont let rainbolt sees this video
Pretty fucking cool. Thanks!
I think you can make your own volkswagen one with volkswagen software for free
next video gaming on the touchscreen... 💀💀
you could buy a san disk extreme pro 32 gig card for 10 dollars
Jon Bringus discovers infinite money glitch, taken out by CIA
Now sell those at half the price of new ones 😂
Those cars aren't designed to handle the .gz format, maybe use a cloning tool
Imagine using one as a regular sd card XD
Hackers will rind a way to install the homebrew channel on this
Tfw i drive the same car as Bringus Studios