Great video! I really enjoy the EAD10 for practice and small gigs where I don't have someone running sound for the band. FYI, you can adjust the headphone volume independently of the master outs, it's under UTILITY/GENERAL L&R Volume : External Device Output Volume. Check the EAD10 reference manual. Thanks for the video!
The best rewiev of this mic! I thought you have at least 600k subcribers. But i noticed you have almost 700 subcribers. You definetly deserve more subcribers! Underrated channel, that's all I have to say.
From what I understand, this wasn’t made with live playing in mind. So it makes sense that volume up/down would be chained, because it’s designed for the drummer who’s playing. Now that so many drummers use it live because of control/consistency (never know what the mic situation is at any given venue) they may address this with future models.
I really appreciate this video man. I have been doing a lot of research on this as I am looking to get a mini budget studio going at the house. This was super helpful and very honest. Thanks!
Great review, just bought the EAD 10 today and haven't had a lot of experience with it, "per se," however, I'm very interested in the challenges and sounds it has to offer....I'm a beginning Drummer with many things to learn. Thank you , JJ
Brilliant & comprehensive review. I am really considering an EAD10 for live use, initially just to provide a feed for foldback so I can hear a full mix of the band with in-ears. However, the idea of reinforcing the sound out the speakers is also appealing. It certainly seems to be a much simpler route than setting up microphones.
Hey Ryan - Great video presentation. I am thinking about pulling the trigger on one and adding the snare trigger as well. Tell me were can I purchase the EAD stand to hold it up or high hat clamp. Thanks!
Great review! Thank you! I just got an EAD. About to set it up. Am thinking about adding 2 overhead mics to ensure I get a good balance of drums vs cymbals. I also recently got an Avid MBox Studio interface and was intending on feeding the EAD and overheads through it. How did that go for you? We’re there any phase issues? Thanks again!
Ya see how ya hardly hear his crashes, but the splashes sounded fine. The closer the mic is the louder. This could be a great help for practicing dynamics, but if you want to do a fairly difficult drum cover, it’s a challenge. When using rec n share with IOP, the click rarely works on older tunes, but works fine for Android. A full set of triggers doubles the cost of the EAD
So far I’m finding you can’t separate the drum volume from the music volume on the app, as this guy addressed. I know you can mix it after the fact, but it would be so much easier if there were 2 separate volume controls. I’ve tried running it through my board, but no luck. Am I missing something? It’s definitely a huge design flaw. It’s still a really cool device, and there are a ton of things ya can do with it, but I should be much easier.
Great video Ryan! Thanks for sharing your insights. I liked how you highlighted pros and cons of the sensor and the module, it was something that promo videos would not do. I currently have a small 3 piece kit (bd, tt, ft) with 16” bd. It’ll be interesting to see how it copes with a 16” kick. Having said that I’d be considering a full set of DT triggers to go with it as I would also like to use it for practicing with mesh heads and L80s. Hope I’d be able to share some of my experience soon.
Great video Ryan. Quick question-any crackling noises from the trigger output on the module? I’ve replaced two from new with this issue. Cheers, more vids please!
I have had some crackling occasionally from the jack leads that plug into the ead sensor. Normally rotating them around slightly fixed it for me. Thanks for the kind words.
Hi Ryan I really enjoyed your video, thank you so much for sharing this information. I'm thinking about buying a Yamaha EAD10 to record my band's songs. Do you believe the sound quality that the EAD10 records is good enough to launch with a medium/low quality recording? Thanks for the information!
It if it’s the only drum mics you’re using it would probably be better for a demo . Long term microphones and interface might be a better choice for releasing music.
Hi guys , indeed nice and detailed review , I want to ask if any one of you add and use a full tigers .I am a bit confusing that Ryan at one point did highlight in the video that you can add four triggers ( also on the input of main one ???) for the Kick drum ? are we do have the stereo mic for the kick drum ? if is like that that mean you can play live with the band not to be affected by the mic? if you add another one ? It will be nice if someone tried this... or maybe Ryan if he will have time and agree to explain , Anyway great job Ryan !!!!
If you used the triggers only including the one on the EAD microphone you would get no sound from the rest of the band but if you wish to use the microphones it will pick up the rest of the band. In my experience it wasn't much but it depends on how loud the rest of the band are compared to you. Hope that helps.
If I understand correctly, the system is engineered to rely on the device being clipped to the (rim of the) kick drum, yes? In addition to the two microphones behaving as microphones, the device somehow senses and mixes the vibrations felt from kick-to-device, yes? To put this another way, if you mounted this thing on a mic or cymbal stand somehow, the resulting sound (of the kick, if nothing else) is different, yes?
Mike Barker Yeah exactly to get the best performance out of it the ead should be mounted on the bass drum rim. The sensor also acts as a trigger so you will lose that facility if it's not on the hoop. I've seen snare drum solos recorded with the sensor placed on a table so You could experiment. You will capture a drum kit best if it's mounted on the bass drum rim. Hope that helps.
If recording is your focus only probably not. I would suggest an interface and microphones. It can work to demo ideas or record alongside a normal mic setup though.
@@thejamman555 Many thanks for your reply!!By the way, if I am to buy an interface and other equipment it requires some additional modifications to my room.. I am looking to buy a bit of decent unit to do some work for social media platforms.. does this work?
Hey mate your review is awesome thanks, would you mind to give me an advice if I'm planning to using it in a double bass drum (not double pedal) and each pedal with their own trigger? Thanks in advance
Thanks, very good video and very well explained. I wanted some simple solution for live, however it is too limited for me as I am an audio engineer. For someone who does not understand the EQ, compressor and other tools in a digital mixer, this is a very good, "idiot friendly" solution.
@@PedroBrandaodrums it would be the same process as setting up any interface in logic. I personally plugged it into my focusrite interface then into the computer.
@@thejamman555 am I correct that a fully mic drum set picks bleed any way Any live recordings I've done for bands has had it At a certain point I learned that when mixing the drums to also listen to the over all mix of the band in the background and all of a sudden you're back at the moment in time of the gig
Hi sorry to hassle you just wanted to see if you could help since I could not find 1 video showing how to play along to music. I've an Apple ipod nano which has mp3 music and also an mp3 stick which also has mp3 songs. What do you do to play the ipod or mp3 stick with your favourite scenes ? Should the nano be plugged into 'aux in' and what about the mp3 stick ? Do I need to go to the menu & press a certain button or 2 , just not sure.Ive had it for 3 weeks so a newbie. Please reply when you can ? Saul
Hey Ryan, great review and very easy to listen to and very informative!! Just purchased the EAD and i'm an android user. Do you know how to transfer the videos off the Rec 'n' Share app to a Macbook? Would appreciate any info on this. Cheers Mario
Glad you enjoyed it Mario. I believe mac and android are not great for communicating with one another. One option would be uploading the video to something like dropbox on your phone and then downloading it from dropbox onto the macbook. You may need to check what video format your phone shoots in and whether mac will play that format also.
@@thejamman555 Wow....thx for the super quick response.....Unfortunately Dropbox is not one of the options to upload too. I'll check other options....thx for setting me on the right track. Cheers
Hi Ryan, nice review; are the cymbals/ tom etc able to be heard comfortably on a recording you make with this EAd 10? One drawback is that you can’t mix individual channels on this like mic set ups. You mentioned compression to bring out the higher ended sounds but wondering if it gets lost in the lower end and much the compression helps in this regard
Hi Mark cymbals come through well and so do the toms providing the toms are positioned in a typical way. You don’t get the low end from a close mic on each tom. Compression brings out some of the quieter elements but it doesn’t replace the low end close mics can provide.
@@thejamman555 thanks Ryan for the thumbs up; so would you say it would give a fairly pro level sounding recording?Obviously it won’t replace a traditional close mic set up but if it gives a good sound decent enough to produce quality drum videos then that could work, otherwise it’s a traditional mic set up
@@jazzpianoman01 it won’t replace a full mic setup with good mixing but it’s also a lot less work and the sound quality is still good enough for drum covers and social media posts.
@@thejamman555 Hi Ryan, thanks for the info so far, just a question of recording with the app and the thing that’s tempting me is the fact you can record video and audio, synch in the two and load it up on your your favourite Social Media site straight from your i0s device so have you used this feature? And can you use iPad as well as iPhone?
Thanks for the video, I am really considering this unit as a pandemic-friendly alternative to creating scratch tracks in the practice room. I am aware that this unit is able to also produce MIDI-out via the USB, have you experimented with this yet at all?
Thanks for the kind words. I don’t think that’s possible on the trigger inputs. You could run the output of the ead into an interface to use alongside other microphones though?
Hey Ryan, do u think it is worth the money for a student who wants to start recording drums and be a pro drum, do u think it is good for starting to record
I think it's a brilliant tool for practice, it is simple to record but it's not a profressional level sound on it's own. It depends on whether you want to get into recording and what outlet you're using the recording for. For social media posts/drum covers etc it's quick and easy but It's not really suitable for recording a song.
Hey Ryan I’m just choosing between the ED a 10 with one drum mic or the sabian sound kit have you ever tried the sapiens sound kit and if so which one is better
Hi Ryan and thanks for the review. I ran into something today with my EAD10 and hoping you can help. I was using the Rec'N'Share app on a demo song (that I must record tomorrow) and it's a halftime shuffle. The default metronome in the app is eighth notes and the only adjustment I see is to change from on the beat to off the beat accent. What I really need in this case is triplets ... preferably 16th note triplets. Can you offer any advice? Many thanks for your time.
dbeck email no problem! I haven’t tried changing the click on the app so only suggestion I would have is to try doubling the tempo on the ead module from say 75 to 150 with the triplets engaged to practice with.
And here’s how you can connect 5 extra triggers. Sounds great 🙏🏻🤩 Example: th-cam.com/users/shorts5hxUBIsLpNo?feature=share Tutorial: th-cam.com/video/B737ieTS_x0/w-d-xo.html
Could you rub a Roland on the bass as a external trigger for live? Metal drummer here, I really want this module because if all the features but I also want a trigger set up for those 220bpm bass runs, do you think is it possible to add that external or for example foot blaster with a connection on each pedal could you send those through the tom trigger imput but just change them all to be the same bass sample?
Hi Ryan, really enjoyed your review. I recently bought an EAD10 and I'm loving it but I'm having a slight problem. When recording the drums they sound fine but when I listen to them in the recording they're really quiet! I hope you can help. Thanks
Are you recording with the recorder inside the ead10? You have to make sure the audio/click knob is up loud to get a decent playback level. Otherwise it might be worth checking your gain levels on the mics are loud enough. Hope that helps.
@@wilbur112 i would try adding some gain to the mics inside the unit. There is a way you can edit the level of the drum audio inside the rec n share app if I remember correctly.
The microphones are unlikely to pick both bass drums up evenly. You could use triggers with two bass drums but the microphones are probably not centered in a double bass setup so I. Don’t think it’s suited for a 2 bass drum setup personally.
Michael Molina I haven’t actually but I would avoid heavy compression or distortion. It depends on how loud the band are also but I haven’t had any issues personally.
Hey Ryan! thanks for the great review! 1 question for you: saw in an amazon review that if you're using a small 4 piece kit or even no toms at all as i use sometimes, means that the ride cymbal will be closer to the mic instead of being far away like if using 2 toms, the ride volume will be too much. what do u think about that? thank alot! Amit
Hi Amit thanks for the kind words! Yes you’re right if you like positioning the ride over the bass drum you will get quite a bit of it in the mix. I’ve found with lighter weight rides it’s manageable. The ead is ideally suited for 2 toms over the bass drum and the ride off to one side in my opinion.
Amit Sharon I would imagine so but it does depend on other factors like your balance between all the voices on the kit. I have some clips on my instagram of that setup that might help to give you an idea.
With all the samples you can make happen from this device, is that not distracting if you can still hear the real drums in a live setting? I would only ever use this on recording (from hip-hop projects to metal, for my own enjoyment), but wouldn’t want to ‘realise’ there are 2 different sounds going on, if that makes sense. Also, is it possible to remix the kit within the EAD10’s settings, say if the hats or cymbals are too loud?
You can control the gain of the mics and effectively them down and no you can’t remix the levels of individual kit pieces. That depends on the kit setup and the balance of the person playing the kit.
@@thejamman555 Many thanks Ryan! (Coming from a solely acoustic-performance background, it's good that the player's own self-balancing is still the most important thing, ha!)
Have been thinking about getting this for a while but my ride would hang over the module and I’m afraid of hearing nothing but the ride. Any experience with this?
I would say it depends on your ride, if it’s lightweight and a jazzier sound you would be ok. Otherwise you will most likely get more ride cymbal than anything else in the mix.
@@thejamman555 yeah, it’s a big one. It’s a 22” heavy ride that I crash on A LOT. I play in a heavy band so unless I move the ride, the EAD10 may not be a viable option for me.
@@thejamman555 I appreciate the feedback. I was about to pull the trigger Saturday morning and took a closer look at my set up after getting to the studio and my ride would be just above the module. Probably wouldn’t even see the module if you were looking straight down from above my kit with where my ride sits. Better to realize this now before dropping $600! Thanks again for the feedback.
The main problem I have is recording live from the desk in rehearsals. The volume in my ears is fine but when I record, the feed from the desk is very low and the drums are far too loud. I've tried putting the desk on full but still no joy.
@@FeathersT21 Ahh and you're recording your audio overall from the EAD? I asked someone who helped develop the EAD and he said that the aux in is on a different circuit and therefore is not able to be recorded via usb. Sadly you can only listen to the aux in but not record it :(
Will this unit work on a bass drum with a mesh head. I’m hoping to trigger the whole kit including the kick. Will it pick up the bass if it only has a mesh?
Jeremiah Stewart I guess the microphones wouldn’t pick up a lot sound wise but I imagine the trigger would still function as normal. Not 100% on that though.
I ask because the trigger isn’t actually mounted on the skin but the rim so the vibes might not be as strong with straight mesh kick heads?but maybe I’m wrong
Jeremiah Stewart I tried it with a mesh head it won't work use the upper two microphones for your symbols and Tom's get a separate trigger for your bass drum
How necessary is it to use In-ears when using this live in small/medium rooms? I was thinking of just plugging headphones directly into this unit and turning it down enough to hear everything else through the floor wedge. Reason being I dont want to worry about having to deal with a seperate personal mixer or headphone amp
Jim C Unfortunately the ead doesn’t have a seperate headphone volume so the signal being sent to the pa might be weak for it to be the correct level in your headphones. I would suggest a small mixer with these unit personally.
Hey Ryan, do you know how to send just your kick trigger through L/R and nothing else (nothing that the mic picks up). Sending audio out live has been a nightmare of feedback and awkward mixing. Pretty much every venue I play has decent mics, I literally just want my kick triggered live. The mic is excellent for live monitoring, so I want the mics still picking up audio and sending it to my headphones.
Hi Greg I don't know know a way of splitting the ead mics and the triggers through the outputs. Have you tried going into the volume settings for the mics and see if they could be turned off all together? I must admit for triggering I use a Roland TM 2 at gigs it's easy and reliable.
Ahh just realized you want the mic audio for your own monitoring, I have a feeling that it's not possible. Perhaps you could send the trigger to the desk and get a feed back into a mixer for your own monitoring?
@@thejamman555 thanks very much Ryan, I agree, I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I'm thinking I might pick up the Roland TM1 for kick triggers and still use the EAD for live monitoring. I haven't seen too many reviews for the TM1 yet but it looks very similar to the TM2 and it's a bit cheaper. Tons of my friends use the TM2. Really appreciate your response!
Using the EAD10 Audio LR PA Outputs, the EAD10 Headphones audio signal is cancelled ! If you want Kick trigger on PA system and keeping your EAD10 headphone monitoring, you have to add an extra kick trigger system. ...You could plug in a monitor subgroup general stage signal the from PA system into the EAD10 audio input and mix it on your EAD10 module....Anyway...the EAD10 , as a Hybrid drumming module, wasn't invented for bigger live gig performances...there's only a 1 track output. Roland Vdrum modules with seperate track output ?
Very very very well done boss... do u have an email add where i can contact u in case i have some some questions about this product after my purchase... thank u...
A friend of mine just told me about this. Been checking out some of the videos and I must say it sounds absolutely horrendous. Do yourself a favour and just mic your kit properly. Don't be lazy about it.
This is the application I bought the EAD-10 for (live micing) and THESE are the questions I wanted answered! Thank you, Ryan!
So glad it helped!
Hey Ryan. Was considering a EAD10. Searching youtube and you popped up! Deffo the best video i've seen on this bit of kit. Good work. J
Thanks Jack appreciate that, feel free to message me if you have any questions.
Great honest review - you made my mind up for me to stick with my TM2 for now but will definitely think about the future versions of this product
Great video! I really enjoy the EAD10 for practice and small gigs where I don't have someone running sound for the band.
FYI, you can adjust the headphone volume independently of the master outs, it's under UTILITY/GENERAL L&R Volume : External Device Output Volume. Check the EAD10 reference manual.
Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the kind words! That’s good to know that the two levels can be adjusted independently!
Would love a headphone volume dial on the module!
One of the best review I found so far. Thank you!
@@m.haltenhoff8685 you’re welcome, thanks for watching!
You didn't miss anything. Congratulations and BIG THANKS
Thank you for the kind words!
Thanks for sharing! Checked among the many other reviews, this is the best one yet. Very detailed and helpful.
Thank you for the kind words!
What a fantastic review 👍. Your channel should be much bigger
Thank you very much, kind of you to say!
Very informative video. Thank you for sharing it.
@@tedrichardsondrummer thanks for the kind words Ted!
The best rewiev of this mic! I thought you have at least 600k subcribers. But i noticed you have almost 700 subcribers. You definetly deserve more subcribers! Underrated channel, that's all I have to say.
Thanks for the kind words!
Good review Ryna! Thanks! (Just bouth one and awaiting it to be delivered) 🙂
I’m going to be picking up a used EAD10 and this video was really helpful. Thank you for a detailed review!
From what I understand, this wasn’t made with live playing in mind. So it makes sense that volume up/down would be chained, because it’s designed for the drummer who’s playing.
Now that so many drummers use it live because of control/consistency (never know what the mic situation is at any given venue) they may address this with future models.
Very informative! Am definitely considering buying one now. Cheers!
Thanks for the kind words Sam, glad it was helpful!
Great review! Always learning something with mine. Just need to spend more time with it. Some great tips here.
Thanks for the kind words, glad it’s helped!
I had the same questions and they were unanswered. Thanks for the video!
Justin Buit that’s great to hear, glad I could help!
I really appreciate this video man. I have been doing a lot of research on this as I am looking to get a mini budget studio going at the house. This was super helpful and very honest. Thanks!
My pleasure, glad it was so helpful!
Great review, just bought the EAD 10 today and haven't had a lot of experience with it, "per se," however, I'm very interested in the challenges and sounds it has to offer....I'm a beginning Drummer with many things to learn. Thank you , JJ
Thanks for the kind words! I find the Ead10 one of the easier modules to play around with, enjoy!
Brilliant & comprehensive review. I am really considering an EAD10 for live use, initially just to provide a feed for foldback so I can hear a full mix of the band with in-ears. However, the idea of reinforcing the sound out the speakers is also appealing. It certainly seems to be a much simpler route than setting up microphones.
For smaller gigs or monitoring it's a lot easier than micing up the kit! Thanks for the kind words, appreciate it.
Hey Ryan - Great video presentation. I am thinking about pulling the trigger on one and adding the snare trigger as well. Tell me were can I purchase the EAD stand to hold it up or high hat clamp. Thanks!
Excellent instructional and demo video. Thank you very much Ryan. I just ordered one with the new Stage Custom Hip - looking forward to rigging it up!
My pleasure Doug, so glad you enjoyed it. Hope you enjoy the EAD10!
Thanks for the review. It's really detailed and covers alot of stuff. Great
Thank you for the kind feedback, glad you enjoyed it!
Great review! Thank you! I just got an EAD. About to set it up. Am thinking about adding 2 overhead mics to ensure I get a good balance of drums vs cymbals. I also recently got an Avid MBox Studio interface and was intending on feeding the EAD and overheads through it. How did that go for you? We’re there any phase issues? Thanks again!
You do have to check the phase for sure!
@@thejamman555 Thanks! I expected so.
Ya see how ya hardly hear his crashes, but the splashes sounded fine. The closer the mic is the louder. This could be a great help for practicing dynamics, but if you want to do a fairly difficult drum cover, it’s a challenge. When using rec n share with IOP, the click rarely works on older tunes, but works fine for Android. A full set of triggers doubles the cost of the EAD
Thank you, great review - good to hear how the EAD 10 sounds for recording.
:)
My pleasure glad you enjoyed it!
very useful review! thank you!!
My pleasure!
Great and concise review. Thank you.
You’re welcome!
Nice honest review.
Nice vid. Just really wanted to see someone use all the trigger inputs as well as the mic and demo how it tracks in a daw
shaymen rameka Same here
Bubinga Basher hey i bought one the other week. Very sadly it doesn’t multi track with a daw. Can only track stereo mix.
Or mono
So far I’m finding you can’t separate the drum volume from the music volume on the app, as this guy addressed. I know you can mix it after the fact, but it would be so much easier if there were 2 separate volume controls. I’ve tried running it through my board, but no luck. Am I missing something? It’s definitely a huge design flaw. It’s still a really cool device, and there are a ton of things ya can do with it, but I should be much easier.
Great video Ryan! Thanks for sharing your insights. I liked how you highlighted pros and cons of the sensor and the module, it was something that promo videos would not do. I currently have a small 3 piece kit (bd, tt, ft) with 16” bd. It’ll be interesting to see how it copes with a 16” kick. Having said that I’d be considering a full set of DT triggers to go with it as I would also like to use it for practicing with mesh heads and L80s. Hope I’d be able to share some of my experience soon.
Glad you enjoyed it Pavol, would be interested to hear your thoughts with using it on a 16" Bass Drum!
Thank you for the review. I may pick one up.
RVA Tacticool no problem!
Thanks you for this. Makes me ready to invest in one.
Great video Ryan. Quick question-any crackling noises from the trigger output on the module? I’ve replaced two from new with this issue. Cheers, more vids please!
I have had some crackling occasionally from the jack leads that plug into the ead sensor. Normally rotating them around slightly fixed it for me. Thanks for the kind words.
@@thejamman555Cheers, looking forward to the next video!
good review.. Thank you
Studio Koman you’re welcome, glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Ryan
I really enjoyed your video, thank you so much for sharing this information. I'm thinking about buying a Yamaha EAD10 to record my band's songs. Do you believe the sound quality that the EAD10 records is good enough to launch with a medium/low quality recording?
Thanks for the information!
It if it’s the only drum mics you’re using it would probably be better for a demo . Long term microphones and interface might be a better choice for releasing music.
Hi guys , indeed nice and detailed review , I want to ask if any one of you add and use a full tigers .I am a bit confusing that Ryan at one point did highlight in the video that you can add four triggers ( also on the input of main one ???) for the Kick drum ? are we do have the stereo mic for the kick drum ? if is like that that mean you can play live with the band not to be affected by the mic? if you add another one ?
It will be nice if someone tried this... or maybe Ryan if he will have time and agree to explain , Anyway great job Ryan !!!!
If you used the triggers only including the one on the EAD microphone you would get no sound from the rest of the band but if you wish to use the microphones it will pick up the rest of the band. In my experience it wasn't much but it depends on how loud the rest of the band are compared to you. Hope that helps.
This was so helpful! Thank you so much!
My pleasure, glad you found it useful!
If I understand correctly, the system is engineered to rely on the device being clipped to the (rim of the) kick drum, yes? In addition to the two microphones behaving as microphones, the device somehow senses and mixes the vibrations felt from kick-to-device, yes? To put this another way, if you mounted this thing on a mic or cymbal stand somehow, the resulting sound (of the kick, if nothing else) is different, yes?
Mike Barker Yeah exactly to get the best performance out of it the ead should be mounted on the bass drum rim. The sensor also acts as a trigger so you will lose that facility if it's not on the hoop. I've seen snare drum solos recorded with the sensor placed on a table so You could experiment. You will capture a drum kit best if it's mounted on the bass drum rim. Hope that helps.
thank you for making this video!!!
My pleasure!
Thanks! Well done video !
Thank you Roland, appreciate the kind words!
I am planning to buy this,,, do you recommend this to record drums for tracks
If recording is your focus only probably not. I would suggest an interface and microphones. It can work to demo ideas or record alongside a normal mic setup though.
@@thejamman555 Many thanks for your reply!!By the way, if I am to buy an interface and other equipment it requires some additional modifications to my room.. I am looking to buy a bit of decent unit to do some work for social media platforms.. does this work?
@@roshansenewiratne5504 it’s great for posting to social media, you can record the sound straight into your phone it saves time editing!
great review.I dont understan is there beside those two mics,the third one for bass dum ,or it is picked up by those two mics ?
There's only two microphones in the sensor for the whole kit! You get a lot of bass drum punch with it being positioned on top of the bass drum hoop.
@@thejamman555 tnx mate
Hey mate your review is awesome thanks, would you mind to give me an advice if I'm planning to using it in a double bass drum (not double pedal) and each pedal with their own trigger? Thanks in advance
It would work if you use two triggers but I’m not sure how effective the mics would be on a bigger kit like that.
Thanks, very good video and very well explained. I wanted some simple solution for live, however it is too limited for me as I am an audio engineer. For someone who does not understand the EQ, compressor and other tools in a digital mixer, this is a very good, "idiot friendly" solution.
Just got one and arrived yesterday did what you’re using on the computer? Garage band? Thanks
I use logic but it will work with any daw, garageband included.
@@thejamman555 any videos on that? Most likely I’ll be using a EAD with logic.
@@PedroBrandaodrums it would be the same process as setting up any interface in logic. I personally plugged it into my focusrite interface then into the computer.
Great video
Appreciate that Leroy, thanks!
@@thejamman555 am I correct that a fully mic drum set picks bleed any way
Any live recordings I've done for bands has had it
At a certain point I learned that when mixing the drums to also listen to the over all mix of the band in the background and all of a sudden you're back at the moment in time of the gig
Thank you. What cables do you use to connect to a pa? Speaker or a patch cord? Stereo or mono . Which pa input?
It’s line level you only 2 1/4 inch cables to go into the pa mixer. If you prefer mono only the one cable.
Hi sorry to hassle you just wanted to see if you could help since I could not find 1 video showing how to play along to music.
I've an Apple ipod nano which has mp3 music and also an mp3 stick which also has mp3 songs.
What do you do to play the ipod or mp3 stick with your favourite scenes ?
Should the nano be plugged into 'aux in' and what about the mp3 stick ?
Do I need to go to the menu & press a certain button or 2 , just not sure.Ive had it for 3 weeks so a newbie.
Please reply when you can ?
Saul
Bonus! Can be used live? This very well may bridge the gap between electric, and accustic drums
Toast Tee for small to med venues it can definitely be used as long as the band are a balanced volume on stage!
Hey Ryan, great review and very easy to listen to and very informative!! Just purchased the EAD and i'm an android user. Do you know how to transfer the videos off the Rec 'n' Share app to a Macbook? Would appreciate any info on this. Cheers Mario
Glad you enjoyed it Mario. I believe mac and android are not great for communicating with one another. One option would be uploading the video to something like dropbox on your phone and then downloading it from dropbox onto the macbook. You may need to check what video format your phone shoots in and whether mac will play that format also.
@@thejamman555 Wow....thx for the super quick response.....Unfortunately Dropbox is not one of the options to upload too. I'll check other options....thx for setting me on the right track. Cheers
@@thejamman555 All sorted....using dropbox and all worked out....thanks again. Cheers
Hi Ryan, nice review; are the cymbals/ tom etc able to be heard comfortably on a recording you make with this EAd 10? One drawback is that you can’t mix individual channels on this like mic set ups. You mentioned compression to bring out the higher ended sounds but wondering if it gets lost in the lower end and much the compression helps in this regard
Hi Mark cymbals come through well and so do the toms providing the toms are positioned in a typical way. You don’t get the low end from a close mic on each tom. Compression brings out some of the quieter elements but it doesn’t replace the low end close mics can provide.
@@thejamman555 thanks Ryan for the thumbs up; so would you say it would give a fairly pro level sounding recording?Obviously it won’t replace a traditional close mic set up but if it gives a good sound decent enough to produce quality drum videos then that could work, otherwise it’s a traditional mic set up
@@jazzpianoman01 it won’t replace a full mic setup with good mixing but it’s also a lot less work and the sound quality is still good enough for drum covers and social media posts.
@@thejamman555 yes the ease of set up and learning curve is what attracts me to it! I’m looking at syncing audio with video as well
@@thejamman555 Hi Ryan, thanks for the info so far, just a question of recording with the app and the thing that’s tempting me is the fact you can record video and audio, synch in the two and load it up on your your favourite Social Media site straight from your i0s device so have you used this feature? And can you use iPad as well as iPhone?
Thanks for the video, I am really considering this unit as a pandemic-friendly alternative to creating scratch tracks in the practice room. I am aware that this unit is able to also produce MIDI-out via the USB, have you experimented with this yet at all?
I haven't no but I'm assuming the midi out would require a trigger on each drum if you wanted to use a drum sample library for example.
Ryan! Amazing video, do you know if i can connect a mic into one of those trigger inputs?? thanks a lot man!
Thanks for the kind words. I don’t think that’s possible on the trigger inputs. You could run the output of the ead into an interface to use alongside other microphones though?
@@thejamman555 Ok, got it! Thanks a lot for the info. Ryan! cheers!
I’ve noticed that it doesn’t pick the cymbals up as much.. I was wondering if we can plug in overhead nicks into the brain?
To my knowledge I don’t believe you can.
Hey Ryan, do u think it is worth the money for a student who wants to start recording drums and be a pro drum, do u think it is good for starting to record
I think it's a brilliant tool for practice, it is simple to record but it's not a profressional level sound on it's own. It depends on whether you want to get into recording and what outlet you're using the recording for. For social media posts/drum covers etc it's quick and easy but It's not really suitable for recording a song.
Hey Ryan I’m just choosing between the ED a 10 with one drum mic or the sabian sound kit have you ever tried the sapiens sound kit and if so which one is better
Hi Ryan and thanks for the review. I ran into something today with my EAD10 and hoping you can help. I was using the Rec'N'Share app on a demo song (that I must record tomorrow) and it's a halftime shuffle. The default metronome in the app is eighth notes and the only adjustment I see is to change from on the beat to off the beat accent. What I really need in this case is triplets ... preferably 16th note triplets. Can you offer any advice? Many thanks for your time.
dbeck email no problem! I haven’t tried changing the click on the app so only suggestion I would have is to try doubling the tempo on the ead module from say 75 to 150 with the triplets engaged to practice with.
How would I go about using the ead 10 on a double bass setup? Would I have to tigger the second bass drum? Or is that even possible on the ead 10?
what about singing drummers? I assume this unit will pick up overspill from the vocal
Maybe a little bit but unless your singing louder than the kit I doubt you'll pick up much for it to be a problem.
Great Video !
Ademir G Gouvea thank you, appreciate that!
I'm wondering if the mics will pick up the bass drum, if you decided not to use it to trigger it?
Ian Mc Namara they definitely do! The room comparison clips are the sound of the mics alone, I didn’t use the triggering all that much.
And here’s how you can connect 5 extra triggers. Sounds great 🙏🏻🤩
Example:
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Tutorial:
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Could you rub a Roland on the bass as a external trigger for live? Metal drummer here, I really want this module because if all the features but I also want a trigger set up for those 220bpm bass runs, do you think is it possible to add that external or for example foot blaster with a connection on each pedal could you send those through the tom trigger imput but just change them all to be the same bass sample?
You can certainly add a Yamaha trigger to the kick and set that to a bass drum sample!
Hi Ryan, really enjoyed your review. I recently bought an EAD10 and I'm loving it but I'm having a slight problem. When recording the drums they sound fine but when I listen to them in the recording they're really quiet! I hope you can help.
Thanks
Are you recording with the recorder inside the ead10? You have to make sure the audio/click knob is up loud to get a decent playback level. Otherwise it might be worth checking your gain levels on the mics are loud enough. Hope that helps.
@@thejamman555 Hi, thanks for the reply. I'm recording through the rec and share app, it's really quiet when I listen on my phone. Thanks again
@@wilbur112 i would try adding some gain to the mics inside the unit. There is a way you can edit the level of the drum audio inside the rec n share app if I remember correctly.
@@thejamman555 Alright thank you I'll have a good look tomorrow, thanks again for your help!
I wonder if you can connect the ead10 to an interface and mix it with other microphones by using the mono output
Yep you certainly can, it sounds great if you use compression on the EAD, adds some great punch to the kick and snare blended in amongst other mics.
How is it, when you have 2 bass drums? Sound wise?
The microphones are unlikely to pick both bass drums up evenly. You could use triggers with two bass drums but the microphones are probably not centered in a double bass setup so I. Don’t think it’s suited for a 2 bass drum setup personally.
Did you have any feedback issues in a live setting? If so, how did you resolve it?
Michael Molina I haven’t actually but I would avoid heavy compression or distortion. It depends on how loud the band are also but I haven’t had any issues personally.
Hey Ryan! thanks for the great review!
1 question for you:
saw in an amazon review that if you're using a small 4 piece kit or even no toms at all as i use sometimes, means that the ride cymbal will be closer to the mic instead of being far away like if using 2 toms, the ride volume will be too much. what do u think about that?
thank alot! Amit
Hi Amit thanks for the kind words! Yes you’re right if you like positioning the ride over the bass drum you will get quite a bit of it in the mix. I’ve found with lighter weight rides it’s manageable. The ead is ideally suited for 2 toms over the bass drum and the ride off to one side in my opinion.
Thanks Ryan! so if im using a jazzy bosphorus ride you'll think it'll work? it would be a bummer not to have the ead just for that
Amit Sharon I would imagine so but it does depend on other factors like your balance between all the voices on the kit. I have some clips on my instagram of that setup that might help to give you an idea.
@@thejamman555 ok i think the best is to check it in the store before buying. thank a lot Ryan
@@k6257kz6 hello hows ur experience with this Ead. Let me knw want yo buy this soon
With all the samples you can make happen from this device, is that not distracting if you can still hear the real drums in a live setting? I would only ever use this on recording (from hip-hop projects to metal, for my own enjoyment), but wouldn’t want to ‘realise’ there are 2 different sounds going on, if that makes sense.
Also, is it possible to remix the kit within the EAD10’s settings, say if the hats or cymbals are too loud?
You can control the gain of the mics and effectively them down and no you can’t remix the levels of individual kit pieces. That depends on the kit setup and the balance of the person playing the kit.
@@thejamman555 Many thanks Ryan! (Coming from a solely acoustic-performance background, it's good that the player's own self-balancing is still the most important thing, ha!)
GRAZIE VERY WELL DONE could you please explane whot cable i need to’ Connect EAD 10 to my I PAD Pro 10.5??
drugo cisca thanks for the kind words. You need two things a usb to lightning adapter and a usb cable that you can use for a printer. Hope that helps!
Grazie moltissimo!!
Have been thinking about getting this for a while but my ride would hang over the module and I’m afraid of hearing nothing but the ride. Any experience with this?
I would say it depends on your ride, if it’s lightweight and a jazzier sound you would be ok. Otherwise you will most likely get more ride cymbal than anything else in the mix.
@@thejamman555 yeah, it’s a big one. It’s a 22” heavy ride that I crash on A LOT. I play in a heavy band so unless I move the ride, the EAD10 may not be a viable option for me.
@@geoffarcuri7877 I don’t want to say don’t do it but I think you’re right with what you play.
@@thejamman555 I appreciate the feedback. I was about to pull the trigger Saturday morning and took a closer look at my set up after getting to the studio and my ride would be just above the module. Probably wouldn’t even see the module if you were looking straight down from above my kit with where my ride sits. Better to realize this now before dropping $600! Thanks again for the feedback.
The main problem I have is recording live from the desk in rehearsals. The volume in my ears is fine but when I record, the feed from the desk is very low and the drums are far too loud. I've tried putting the desk on full but still no joy.
Are you running the in ears straight out of the EAD? Sounds like the level of the gain would need to be adjusted on the desk.
@@thejamman555 Ye. My in ears are in the headphone jack in the EAD. The desk is going into the aux input on the EAD.
@@FeathersT21 Ahh and you're recording your audio overall from the EAD? I asked someone who helped develop the EAD and he said that the aux in is on a different circuit and therefore is not able to be recorded via usb. Sadly you can only listen to the aux in but not record it :(
@@thejamman555 ah OK. So what I'm recording is actually just bleed over from the mics on the module?
tom feathers yeah exactly that, shame really.
0:08 nice groove man!
I Don't Care Thank you, appreciate it!
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Hi, is this good for recording in studio, good quality like the mics, cause a set kit ash to much cables !
It will not replace a full mic setup In my opinion but it can be used alongside other mics to add some punch to your drum mix.
Will this unit work on a bass drum with a mesh head. I’m hoping to trigger the whole kit including the kick. Will it pick up the bass if it only has a mesh?
Jeremiah Stewart I guess the microphones wouldn’t pick up a lot sound wise but I imagine the trigger would still function as normal. Not 100% on that though.
I ask because the trigger isn’t actually mounted on the skin but the rim so the vibes might not be as strong with straight mesh kick heads?but maybe I’m wrong
Jeremiah Stewart I tried it with a mesh head it won't work use the upper two microphones for your symbols and Tom's get a separate trigger for your bass drum
They probably just need to incorporate that technology into a pair of overhead mics
Do you recommend for live gigs ?
TIGCED it can definitely work in smaller gigs, the bass drum lacks a bit of low end so a bass drum mic might be needed.
Ryan Halsey thanks
How necessary is it to use In-ears when using this live in small/medium rooms? I was thinking of just plugging headphones directly into this unit and turning it down enough to hear everything else through the floor wedge. Reason being I dont want to worry about having to deal with a seperate personal mixer or headphone amp
Jim C Unfortunately the ead doesn’t have a seperate headphone volume so the signal being sent to the pa might be weak for it to be the correct level in your headphones. I would suggest a small mixer with these unit personally.
@@thejamman555 sure it does. On the top there is seperate volume knobs for master and headphones
Jim C your right! The only downside is the master output dial effects the level coming into the headphone output if I remember correctly.
Hey Ryan, do you know how to send just your kick trigger through L/R and nothing else (nothing that the mic picks up). Sending audio out live has been a nightmare of feedback and awkward mixing. Pretty much every venue I play has decent mics, I literally just want my kick triggered live. The mic is excellent for live monitoring, so I want the mics still picking up audio and sending it to my headphones.
Hi Greg I don't know know a way of splitting the ead mics and the triggers through the outputs. Have you tried going into the volume settings for the mics and see if they could be turned off all together? I must admit for triggering I use a Roland TM 2 at gigs it's easy and reliable.
Ahh just realized you want the mic audio for your own monitoring, I have a feeling that it's not possible. Perhaps you could send the trigger to the desk and get a feed back into a mixer for your own monitoring?
@@thejamman555 thanks very much Ryan, I agree, I'm pretty sure it's not possible. I'm thinking I might pick up the Roland TM1 for kick triggers and still use the EAD for live monitoring. I haven't seen too many reviews for the TM1 yet but it looks very similar to the TM2 and it's a bit cheaper. Tons of my friends use the TM2. Really appreciate your response!
Greg Glenn no problem at all, this is the general setup I use which might help! th-cam.com/video/wBiXJ30SxwI/w-d-xo.html
Using the EAD10 Audio LR PA Outputs, the EAD10 Headphones audio signal is cancelled ! If you want Kick trigger on PA system and keeping your EAD10 headphone monitoring, you have to add an extra kick trigger system. ...You could plug in a monitor subgroup general stage signal the from PA system into the EAD10 audio input and mix it on your EAD10 module....Anyway...the EAD10 , as a Hybrid drumming module, wasn't invented for bigger live gig performances...there's only a 1 track output. Roland Vdrum modules with seperate track output ?
Can the module used to trigger SD3?
Greg Williams i Believe that it has midi in and out but im guessing that would only work for the triggers
Midi out?
I believe the EAD will record MIdi into a DAW via the usb connection, if you're using the trigger dial on the module.
Very very very well done boss... do u have an email add where i can contact u in case i have some some questions about this product after my purchase... thank u...
Thanks for the kind words! Feel free to comment on this video with questions, they might helpful to someone else!
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A friend of mine just told me about this. Been checking out some of the videos and I must say it sounds absolutely horrendous. Do yourself a favour and just mic your kit properly. Don't be lazy about it.