I think we see it on the Rebels TV show. Eventually she's forced to openly declare rebellion in a broadcast seen by gazillions of people across the galaxy, and then becomes a fugitive and the official leader of the mainline Rebel Alliance. I hope we get to see a live action version of this event in Andor season 2!
Eventually she had to give up her daughter to get her married to a wealthier person’s son, as requested by that person, in exchange for the further financial future of the rebellion
Her mind is made. The last few episodes were all about personal sacrifice for the greater good. Luthen, Lonni, Cinta, Kino, they all made their sacrifice, now it is Mon’s turn.
Every Mon Mothma succeeded in places where the prequel did well. The politics It just shows how truly omni-present and dangerous the Empire was and how the walls are slowly and visibly closing in. Most importantly it moves away from this ridiculously simple minded version of Luke Skywalker came in and beat the empire, period. It shows just how difficult, how dangerous and how much sacrifice there was made before our hero jumped into his X Wing
This is what really sucks when you see this and other passionate SW media and then look back at the original trilogy. So many people were involved, so many layers to the empire’s corruption and so many people sacrificing everything for the cause just for a farm boy with superpowers to show up and take them down like it’s nothing. It’s not that the OG trilogy is bad, but a lot of what happens in media like Andor almost feels pointless when we know Luke is the hero at the end of the day and the empire’s canonical end is comically ridiculous and includes none of the realism you see here.
It honestly hit hard what Mothma intends to do. Was proud of her for not going forward with the 'meet and greet' with Davos son. But realizing she has no choice....I never expected anything like this in SW. More shows need to follow this template more or less.
This series is different from the others. No lightsabers, force-powers or such. Rather this series gives a close look at the different factions and differently levels of society and the conflicts and connections between them all focusing on the ordinary everyday people of the Star Wars Universe, I thinks it actually a refreshing experience from all the usual cliches. This series is AWESOME for so many reasons.
The no lightsabers and force powers thing is so good. Because the show can now demonstrate the difference between actual conflict vs just fight scenes. I was so mad when they showed the Mandalorians in the clone wars cartoon had a lightsaber that was central to their culture only because Dave Filoni doesn't know how to write interesting scenes between Jedi and Mandalorians so he just gave them a lightsaber to fight with. They could have had their own political culture and conflicting ideals that could have been fleshed out. Instead we got, "darksaber go bzzzz! me follow you now!"
And I like in the scene prior we see Mons daughter taking an interest in a group that values the “old ways.” It’s subtly nodding at the fact Mon is using this to justify her future decisions. I just love how subtly impactful and emotional this scene was. She doesn’t need to outright say what she’s going to do, we can tell by her emotion and the emphasis on her daughter during this scene that she’s made up her mind. Brilliant
Yeah I love that this is likely what her daughter actually wants, but Mon knows if she goes through with it she’s effectively lost her daughter forever.
Mon Mothma has already decided to do it. The scene was more about telling this to Vel, and connecting it to the consequences of Aldani. Of course, Mon Mothma doesn't know Vel was directly involved with Aldani (although I suspect she suspects, based on timing of when Vel was missing). So there's a potential double meaning when Mon Mothma says, "We did this." Either way, the main point of the scene is to show Vel realizing the costs of Aldani; that it has hit home in ways she couldn't have imagined.
02:36 This shift from an emotionally intense and overwhelming exchange to a tense poker face to the simulation of socially civil exchange occurs repeatedly in Andor, and gives an unprecedented dramatic intensity to the personal cost involved in belonging to the rebellion.
I wish more of Disney Star Wars had this level of writing acting directing quality. This was an epic scene. Mon Mothma is a supremely underrated character and I am happy we get the opportunity to see this character in more detail. Fantastic acting all around.
This is one of those quiet scenes that make or break a series. Not the explosions but the dialogue that connects episodes and plots together. That make a side character almost as interesting as the main characters. Shoutout to the writers and actress
It's moments such as these that most people overlook and dismiss out of hand, that contribute to the rich and complex tapestry of "Andor". Outstanding writing and acting here in what could otherwise be a throwaway scene...
I love mon mothma's change of tone at 2:29 and how it doesn't affect her facial expression at all (although you can see the subtle annoyance in her eyes). Brilliant acting
The principle of not arranging dates for her daughter? Friends arrange dates for friends and parents do it for their kids as well. She's being melodramatic.
Not a sacrifice. As we learned earlier, by their own customs, if Mon Mothma doesn't arrange a betrothal for her daughter at the time their customs, the girl could end up a spinster like her aunt. That's the way things are done on their planet, and clearly billions of people are okay with it. Her daughter would be even angrier with her mother for ruining her life.
Funny that Star Wars is at its best when it has the least Force and force-sensitive involvement. This, Rogue One, even Plagueis (yes, if you remember the whole book it was more about politics and corporalational schemes rather than Sith lore), Thrawn etc.
In my opinion this would have been a lot more heartbreaking if she was shown to have a good relationship with her daughter. And it would prolly end the bond officially broken if she goes through with this. Cause I am prolly the only one who has zero sympathy for the daughter. But I guess her daughter being upset is a realistic and new route. Also I literally get chills whenever that theme plays 😭
I think their bad relationship made it just as tragic, because Mon Mothma is giving in what her daughter is accusing her off: that she is neglecting her and cares more about her work than her family.
Is she neglectful? Does her daughter want for anything? Does she have love and care and affection from all around her while her mother, recognizing a broken society, wants to bring about a better world where her daughter won't just be safe but free. I'm not sure it's so clear cut.
Accounting. Her accounts were being heavily monitored and scrutinised. It’s not that she didn’t have there money but that she didn’t have a way to access them without being noticed. If 400,000 was stolen from the Empire and was deposited into her account, this would immediately raise questions from the ISB and topple their whole operation.
*Probably true for sure. My very cheap laptop's volume for my recordings are set at max settings. So, I definitely need to invest in an upgrade at some point.*
@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse don't worry mate, it's not your laptop that's the problem. it's just an issue with gain, i don't know what software you are using but you can always boost it in your editor.. just make sure your audio is never in the red, so make sure the clips are louder, your actual audio levels are fine, just drop a limiter on it.
Not a sacrifice. As we learned earlier, by their own customs, if Mon Mothma doesn't arrange a betrothal for her daughter at the time their customs, the girl could end up a spinster like her aunt. That's the way things are done on their planet, and clearly billions of people are okay with it. Her daughter would be even angrier with her mother for ruining her life.
@@godofsex7 Davo is not her enemy and not even a rival...there was nothing to suggest that. Mon Mothma and Davo are in very different social circles, and Davo wants an opening into her social circle. There _is_ an implication that Perrin may have originally came from Davo's social circle (because it's mentioned that they know each other). Clearly the social difference between Mon and Perrin has left her own arranged marriage loveless, and she'd want to avoid that for her daughter. But there is no implication that Davo is either an enemy or a rival. Moreover, when Mon's association with the rebellion becomes known (as we already know it will), Davo is the person most likely to be able to hide himself and her daughter from the Empire's wrath.
I don't get it. Where are all the lightsabers and spaceships and aliens and stuff? This went on for over four whole minutes, and I didn't even see one lightsaber or spaceship or alien. NOT A SINGLE ONE!!! 😤
Uh order 66???? Like where are you right now? The jedi are essentially dead ro everyone right now. Those left are in hiding(in hindsight).We have seen them enough but doing that here wouldnt make sense.
@@Charliestrife01 - Haha, glad someone realized. I actually think Andor is the best SW since TESB. It’s what I always hoped SW would become as I grew up waiting for the Prequels. Was a bit disappointed with Prequel stuff like Jar Jar & bad(ly performed) dialogue, but still like a lot about them. Incredibly underwhelmed by the Sequel Trilogy. Have really enjoyed The Mandalorian, (including season 3) and the animated stuff, but there is A LOT of lazy writing in those shows. Most everything else Disney has done is pretty blah. But Andor was, like, Best-Picture-worthy (had it been a movie, or movie trilogy)! Can’t wait to binge watch the “Andor Trilogy” (Andor S1, Andor S2, and Rogue One)! And I hope Gilroy and his team can do something else in the SW live action universe-maybe something that follows Mon Mothma and other Rebels into the Original Trilogy era!!!🙏
Ah yes, everyone losing their shit because of an arranged marriage while untold thousands of poor people will die for the Rebellion, and Mon Mothma is the one making the true sacrifice. FOH. Sorry if I'm not weeping blood over this scene.
@user-hh9md4os3n While other people are volunteering their own asses. She isnt sending her daughter to join the fucking fleet. She will likely continue to live in incredible privilege long after the war is over.
Mon Mothma's gonna survive of course, but I'm worried about the people around she's going to lose: her daughter, husband, Vel, Tay Kolma. That's where the dread is for me.
*What do you all think Mon Mothma will do???* 🤔
I think we see it on the Rebels TV show. Eventually she's forced to openly declare rebellion in a broadcast seen by gazillions of people across the galaxy, and then becomes a fugitive and the official leader of the mainline Rebel Alliance.
I hope we get to see a live action version of this event in Andor season 2!
Eventually she had to give up her daughter to get her married to a wealthier person’s son, as requested by that person, in exchange for the further financial future of the rebellion
I hope we get to see the details of when and how she’s forced to flee Coruscant once Palpatine sics the ISB on her.
Her mind is made. The last few episodes were all about personal sacrifice for the greater good. Luthen, Lonni, Cinta, Kino, they all made their sacrifice, now it is Mon’s turn.
*This is true indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing how she goes about it & what her reaction will be.*
Every Mon Mothma succeeded in places where the prequel did well. The politics
It just shows how truly omni-present and dangerous the Empire was and how the walls are slowly and visibly closing in. Most importantly it moves away from this ridiculously simple minded version of Luke Skywalker came in and beat the empire, period. It shows just how difficult, how dangerous and how much sacrifice there was made before our hero jumped into his X Wing
This is what really sucks when you see this and other passionate SW media and then look back at the original trilogy. So many people were involved, so many layers to the empire’s corruption and so many people sacrificing everything for the cause just for a farm boy with superpowers to show up and take them down like it’s nothing. It’s not that the OG trilogy is bad, but a lot of what happens in media like Andor almost feels pointless when we know Luke is the hero at the end of the day and the empire’s canonical end is comically ridiculous and includes none of the realism you see here.
@@gentlepanda1988 something similar happened to us 2000 years ago, if you believe what He sacrificed for and what came after.
I hope its not too much discredit to luke.
It honestly hit hard what Mothma intends to do. Was proud of her for not going forward with the 'meet and greet' with Davos son. But realizing she has no choice....I never expected anything like this in SW. More shows need to follow this template more or less.
It’s a departure from the dumb comic book crap and Dizzy pushing to sell plastic junk from the franchise
This series is different from the others. No lightsabers, force-powers or such. Rather this series gives a close look at the different factions and differently levels of society and the conflicts and connections between them all focusing on the ordinary everyday people of the Star Wars Universe, I thinks it actually a refreshing experience from all the usual cliches.
This series is AWESOME for so many reasons.
The no lightsabers and force powers thing is so good. Because the show can now demonstrate the difference between actual conflict vs just fight scenes. I was so mad when they showed the Mandalorians in the clone wars cartoon had a lightsaber that was central to their culture only because Dave Filoni doesn't know how to write interesting scenes between Jedi and Mandalorians so he just gave them a lightsaber to fight with. They could have had their own political culture and conflicting ideals that could have been fleshed out. Instead we got, "darksaber go bzzzz! me follow you now!"
I like how andor is a show about those people who sacrifice his entire life for a greater good that probably they will never experience
It was extremely well done!
Luthen said as much.. a sunrise he will never live to see..
And I like in the scene prior we see Mons daughter taking an interest in a group that values the “old ways.” It’s subtly nodding at the fact Mon is using this to justify her future decisions. I just love how subtly impactful and emotional this scene was. She doesn’t need to outright say what she’s going to do, we can tell by her emotion and the emphasis on her daughter during this scene that she’s made up her mind. Brilliant
Yeah I love that this is likely what her daughter actually wants, but Mon knows if she goes through with it she’s effectively lost her daughter forever.
Mon Mothma has already decided to do it. The scene was more about telling this to Vel, and connecting it to the consequences of Aldani. Of course, Mon Mothma doesn't know Vel was directly involved with Aldani (although I suspect she suspects, based on timing of when Vel was missing).
So there's a potential double meaning when Mon Mothma says, "We did this."
Either way, the main point of the scene is to show Vel realizing the costs of Aldani; that it has hit home in ways she couldn't have imagined.
02:36 This shift from an emotionally intense and overwhelming exchange to a tense poker face to the simulation of socially civil exchange occurs repeatedly in Andor, and gives an unprecedented dramatic intensity to the personal cost involved in belonging to the rebellion.
I wish more of Disney Star Wars had this level of writing acting directing quality. This was an epic scene. Mon Mothma is a supremely underrated character and I am happy we get the opportunity to see this character in more detail. Fantastic acting all around.
This is one of those quiet scenes that make or break a series. Not the explosions but the dialogue that connects episodes and plots together. That make a side character almost as interesting as the main characters. Shoutout to the writers and actress
this is what I love, not focusing on the jedi or sith. Just focusing on the normal people who couldn't rely on the force
I desperately need 1:30 Mon Mothma theme variation, it sounds so dramatic and good, fits her perfectly
Andor Volume 3 Cousins
@@qwertyuiopqwerty112 Thats not the one :(
It's moments such as these that most people overlook and dismiss out of hand, that contribute to the rich and complex tapestry of "Andor". Outstanding writing and acting here in what could otherwise be a throwaway scene...
I never expected to love Mon Mothma but here we are 😭 she’s now one of my favorites
Happened to me too
Music gives me the chills 😮
2:40 “I’ve found a solution.”
I love and hate how you can just hear her heart breaking in two.
I love mon mothma's change of tone at 2:29 and how it doesn't affect her facial expression at all (although you can see the subtle annoyance in her eyes). Brilliant acting
The music… is a masterpiece ❤️
Such a brilliant scene, Genevieve O'Reilly is spellbinding
To be honest her kid might like the kid. He might be a decent bloke?
she's still betraying her principles regardless
The principle of not arranging dates for her daughter? Friends arrange dates for friends and parents do it for their kids as well. She's being melodramatic.
@@Marvolo14 I've just seen the finale there is no way his kid is 14. He looks about 12
@@Marvolo14 lol; somebody hasn't been paying attention...
Not a sacrifice. As we learned earlier, by their own customs, if Mon Mothma doesn't arrange a betrothal for her daughter at the time their customs, the girl could end up a spinster like her aunt. That's the way things are done on their planet, and clearly billions of people are okay with it. Her daughter would be even angrier with her mother for ruining her life.
I hope they Canonize her son Jobin, and hopefully they'll have better relationship than Mothma has with her daughter.
That means it will be canon Vader personally kills him in Hoth.
@@memecliparchives2254 Not necessarily.
400k??? You realize how much grinding you have to do to get that in kotor????
Funny that Star Wars is at its best when it has the least Force and force-sensitive involvement. This, Rogue One, even Plagueis (yes, if you remember the whole book it was more about politics and corporalational schemes rather than Sith lore), Thrawn etc.
In my opinion this would have been a lot more heartbreaking if she was shown to have a good relationship with her daughter. And it would prolly end the bond officially broken if she goes through with this. Cause I am prolly the only one who has zero sympathy for the daughter.
But I guess her daughter being upset is a realistic and new route.
Also I literally get chills whenever that theme plays 😭
I think their bad relationship made it just as tragic, because Mon Mothma is giving in what her daughter is accusing her off: that she is neglecting her and cares more about her work than her family.
Like the other comment said I think her being neglectful towards he daughter is more tragic.
Is she neglectful? Does her daughter want for anything? Does she have love and care and affection from all around her while her mother, recognizing a broken society, wants to bring about a better world where her daughter won't just be safe but free.
I'm not sure it's so clear cut.
This scene is really dark it shows the risks she did for the start of the Rebellion.
they should have given her 400,000 of the 80 million they stole from Aldani. What's the problem
Accounting. Her accounts were being heavily monitored and scrutinised. It’s not that she didn’t have there money but that she didn’t have a way to access them without being noticed.
If 400,000 was stolen from the Empire and was deposited into her account, this would immediately raise questions from the ISB and topple their whole operation.
You need better volume control.
*Probably true for sure. My very cheap laptop's volume for my recordings are set at max settings. So, I definitely need to invest in an upgrade at some point.*
@@starwarsunlimiteduniverse don't worry mate, it's not your laptop that's the problem. it's just an issue with gain, i don't know what software you are using but you can always boost it in your editor..
just make sure your audio is never in the red, so make sure the clips are louder, your actual audio levels are fine, just drop a limiter on it.
Not a sacrifice. As we learned earlier, by their own customs, if Mon Mothma doesn't arrange a betrothal for her daughter at the time their customs, the girl could end up a spinster like her aunt. That's the way things are done on their planet, and clearly billions of people are okay with it. Her daughter would be even angrier with her mother for ruining her life.
@@godofsex7 Davo is not her enemy and not even a rival...there was nothing to suggest that. Mon Mothma and Davo are in very different social circles, and Davo wants an opening into her social circle. There _is_ an implication that Perrin may have originally came from Davo's social circle (because it's mentioned that they know each other). Clearly the social difference between Mon and Perrin has left her own arranged marriage loveless, and she'd want to avoid that for her daughter. But there is no implication that Davo is either an enemy or a rival.
Moreover, when Mon's association with the rebellion becomes known (as we already know it will), Davo is the person most likely to be able to hide himself and her daughter from the Empire's wrath.
why is the male chattle better than the female chattle.???
🎉🎉600000000000000
I don't get it. Where are all the lightsabers and spaceships and aliens and stuff? This went on for over four whole minutes, and I didn't even see one lightsaber or spaceship or alien.
NOT A SINGLE ONE!!! 😤
How do you not get it ? Lightsaber only jedi had them and order 66 wiped them all out as for aliens there enslave or sent to lower level
Uh order 66???? Like where are you right now? The jedi are essentially dead ro everyone right now. Those left are in hiding(in hindsight).We have seen them enough but doing that here wouldnt make sense.
LOOOL this has to be a troll.
And I think that's a good thing for a change. We get to focus on story and character development, which Andor has plenty of.
@@Charliestrife01 - Haha, glad someone realized.
I actually think Andor is the best SW since TESB. It’s what I always hoped SW would become as I grew up waiting for the Prequels. Was a bit disappointed with Prequel stuff like Jar Jar & bad(ly performed) dialogue, but still like a lot about them.
Incredibly underwhelmed by the Sequel Trilogy. Have really enjoyed The Mandalorian, (including season 3) and the animated stuff, but there is A LOT of lazy writing in those shows. Most everything else Disney has done is pretty blah.
But Andor was, like, Best-Picture-worthy (had it been a movie, or movie trilogy)! Can’t wait to binge watch the “Andor Trilogy” (Andor S1, Andor S2, and Rogue One)! And I hope Gilroy and his team can do something else in the SW live action universe-maybe something that follows Mon Mothma and other Rebels into the Original Trilogy era!!!🙏
Ah yes, everyone losing their shit because of an arranged marriage while untold thousands of poor people will die for the Rebellion, and Mon Mothma is the one making the true sacrifice.
FOH. Sorry if I'm not weeping blood over this scene.
@user-hh9md4os3n While other people are volunteering their own asses.
She isnt sending her daughter to join the fucking fleet. She will likely continue to live in incredible privilege long after the war is over.
Ahhh yes for the greater good
@@lolaccount2192 Should look up what the Revolution cost the Americans who started it.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons why you assuming that I would care about the history of Americans specifically? 🙂
They're...both sacrifices. No one's making you discount either one.
Some of the best tv in tv history
Agree! Such quality...and in the Star Wars universe!
Mon Mothma's gonna survive of course, but I'm worried about the people around she's going to lose: her daughter, husband, Vel, Tay Kolma. That's where the dread is for me.