Andor: Davo Sculdun's Very Interesting Proposition to Mon Mothma!!!!

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    Today, we talk about Davo Sculden wanting to set up his own meeting of his son & Mothma's daughter per the traditions of Chanderlin.
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  • @pelusam79
    @pelusam79 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +301

    People who say this show its not star wars-like are right, its dialogue is uncharacteristically good for star wars 😂

    • @BB-848-VAC
      @BB-848-VAC หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      george is a goofy guy

    • @sbraypaynt
      @sbraypaynt หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Best piece of Star Wars media ever written…you know why? Because it does everything in its power to make you forget you’re watching Star Wars.
      Unpopular hot take: Star Wars has never been good, even the original trilogy is laughably mediocre and childish. Prequels are on par with the writing quality of the original and yes we all know the sequels are corporate dystopia trash (and not because they’re “woke”)
      Andor is such a tonic and my god the casting is fantastic.
      Ebon Moss Bachrach, Alex Lawther, Diego Luna, Alex Ferns, Fiona Shaw, Ben Miles, Forest Whitaker, Serkis and Skarsgard, they are all mesmerising to watch.
      Casting real actors and artists instead of egoist wannabe celebrity personalities and nostalgia bait stunt casting.

    • @thephoenix4093
      @thephoenix4093 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sbraypaynt if writing was the only thing to dictate a movie's quality I'd agree.

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sbraypayntDepends what you mean by good. The OT are exceptionally well written, they're just written with kids in mind so that it's accessible to everyone. The prequels by comparison are horrible, and the ST is somehow even worse.
      Andor is the only Star Wars property written for adults and adults alone, and that already raises it above everything else.

  • @vaporwave4880
    @vaporwave4880 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    I’ve rewatched this scene half a dozen times. The dialogue and its delivery are just exquisite.

    • @Meinhardt_Kakuch
      @Meinhardt_Kakuch ปีที่แล้ว +14

      sure!! masterclass acting

    • @lucabestea6844
      @lucabestea6844 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Indeed, especially Mon's reaction to what he wants woth her daughter. The expression was enough to show us everything she thought about it! Nicely done, Genevieve!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @Gynecologist
      @Gynecologist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Even the darting eyes of Mothma’s colleague was great!

    • @PaulHFleming
      @PaulHFleming 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This among the best dialogue I've ever seen in SW franchises. I truly hated vast majority of conversations in prequel movies. Majority of characters were hollow stereotypes like something out of Flash Gordon series in 1930s. These characters are believable

  • @R.a.f.a.e.l.
    @R.a.f.a.e.l. ปีที่แล้ว +362

    "A drop of discomfort may be the price of doing business" i love how this absolutely destroys any illusions regarding having the moral highground (among her peers) that Mon Mothma had up to that point. Now she knew the kind of sacrifice people like Luthen had been doing. Its all fun and games when you are rich and can feel good about yourself just by funding the cause. It has risk in it, of course, but you're not getting your hands dirty. That's when Mon Mothma realized she'd have to get her hands dirty and get down from the horse.
    I love this show's writing. Complex, belieavable characters. What a breath of fresh air. This show has made more for SW world buliding than all live actions SW productions since de prequels combined.

    • @luminaraunduli2791
      @luminaraunduli2791 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Great comment, this show is brilliance! A subtle moment in ep7 that goes overlooked that I saw as Mon was officially willing and all in: in Luthen's gallery, he says "There will be no rules going forward. If you're not willing to risk your conscience, then surrender and be done with it." Mon says nothing, only adjusts her body language and gives a reserved yet strong resolved stare. But this scene is certainly that first real life moment of truth.

    • @Stoic_optimist_realist
      @Stoic_optimist_realist ปีที่แล้ว +7

      One must pay the piper if they wish to dance.

    • @OneGaurdian
      @OneGaurdian 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's funny how some of the best parts to come out of this show had nothing to do with its main character. Makes you think they should've called it something else rather than Andor.

    • @ibrahimkuyumcu2649
      @ibrahimkuyumcu2649 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seeing how Chandrilans act and think in dire circumstances is brilliant.

    • @Aramis7
      @Aramis7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think the point is not so much about keeping her hands clean or not, Mon not only has been funding the rebellion but also taking a huge personal risk. However the issue now is that the price to pay is way too high, and now involves people -her daughter no less- that have nothing to do with the cause and that have not willingly accepted to be part of this. Her sacrifice is enormous. I love this show.

  • @edithprince5305
    @edithprince5305 ปีที่แล้ว +630

    I honestly think it’s way more interesting as a story beat for her to take the offer than to stick with her morals. The big theme of the season is what people are willing to sacrifice for the good of the rebellion. We love to paint sacrifice as noble and heroic, but sometimes it’s just desperate and sad

    • @scaf5363
      @scaf5363 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Very well put.

    • @Infernal460
      @Infernal460 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sometimes it's solid and inspires confidence.

    • @slewone4905
      @slewone4905 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      What do I Sacrifice. Everything !!!!!!

    • @scrapox217
      @scrapox217 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Especially if it's others you have to sacrifice. Sacrificing yourself for the greater good and to save many is noble, but what if you have to sacrifice someone else for the greater good and to save the many. That's what makes it really interesting.

    • @jleonas
      @jleonas ปีที่แล้ว +7

      She does take the offer.

  • @Sanzaru123
    @Sanzaru123 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    "A drop of discomfort may be the price of doing business"

  • @411bvRGiskard
    @411bvRGiskard ปีที่แล้ว +146

    This is Masterclass writing, acting, directing, set design, cinematography, costuming, lighting, etc. This is what happens when you put Pros in charge.

    • @Randoman590
      @Randoman590 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm just studying every little detail and nuance of Davo's facial expressions as he speaks, all so deliberate and precise, wondering if I can ever come close to matching it, if the dexterity and body awareness is even there in the muscles in the face. He's so good!

  • @Randoman590
    @Randoman590 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    This show has so much to teach me about writing tight, intelligent, compelling dialogue. I'm gonna have to watch it start to finish at least another dozen times to pick up on everything.

    • @jessicaheller3076
      @jessicaheller3076 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same here

    • @MonoZeus
      @MonoZeus ปีที่แล้ว +28

      If this is the caliber of writing you're striving to achieve, I look forward to your works!

    • @ghernan01
      @ghernan01 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I agree. Such high quality...and in the Star Wars universe! Simply irresistible!

  • @gaiusbaltar8915
    @gaiusbaltar8915 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    13:35 "We've discussed all this, Davo." - "I'd like to hear her say it."
    *This,* ladies and gentlemen, is how you do expositional dialogue. We get to hear how exactly their money scheme is gonna work, but these two lines of dialogue make the *scene* about the emotional conflict between the characters, which is far more interesting than hearing bankers talk about finances.

    • @ibrahimkuyumcu2649
      @ibrahimkuyumcu2649 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Truth is, in business there is often somewhat elaborate deceptions in the way people talk and make propositions. If Tay Kolma wasn't such a good and dependable person, Mum Mothermama would've been ruined, along with her daughter. Hence, "I'd like to hear her say it." is very appropriate, not just for a Chandrilan, but particularly for a criminal Chandrilan, who is actually looking out for Mon by making sure everybody knows what the proposition is about so that they can proceed appropriately.

    • @10CentHead
      @10CentHead 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was a total power move… brilliant nuance to put in the scene. All of the “unspoken” things happening in this scene just ratchet up the stakes.

  • @rabbitsfoot8
    @rabbitsfoot8 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    Kinda crazy to walk into someone's home and ask for their daughter

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +45

      *RIGHT!!!! But this stuff still does occur within the world of star wars which is interesting in itself.*

    • @madsketchy9261
      @madsketchy9261 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      The audacity

    • @OuterRimPride
      @OuterRimPride ปีที่แล้ว +50

      As things stand, most marriages in the world are actually still arranged.

    • @_Fulgur_
      @_Fulgur_ ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It's cause davo knows he's the one who wields the upper hand in this negotiation, he knows mon is desperate and needs him but he doesn't need her

    • @Hounlaiga
      @Hounlaiga ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean, here in Thailand it's still quite a custom for the adult of a family (usaully a powerful or a riched one) to arragne a marrige between their son and daugther. Granted, said custom isn't view as normal, or even positive practice nowaday among the new generation.

  • @IsaacKuo
    @IsaacKuo ปีที่แล้ว +236

    It took less than a day for Mon Mothma to swallow down her reaction to Aldani, and turn around and coolly use it in her pitch to Tay. I expect it will take her even less time to square herself with this indecent proposal.
    Mon Mothma's going down the same path toward the abyss that Luthen already slipped down years ago. The difference is that we know she will pull herself back out. Somehow. That part's going to be a lot tougher.
    Genevieve O'Reilly is absolutely crushing it.

    • @ppacal1098
      @ppacal1098 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      It always sucks when you want what you want only to have to deal with a manipulative arsehole who uses that opportunity to play you.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *Yes she is man. To me, she will go through with it. But like you said, she'll pull herself out eventually. Just will take some time.*

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      *Indeed. It really does. And of course people like Davo's plays on your weaknesses with ease.* 😒

    • @411bvRGiskard
      @411bvRGiskard ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel she’ll create some magical political sorcery like a stone cold boss and slip out of this trap. And Davos will never see it coming.

  • @JonS
    @JonS ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The costumes in Andor were spot on. Just the other day I noticed that Davo Sculdun's outfit is designed to show he's wealthy, but that he's "new money" compared to Mon Mothma's inherited family wealth. The gold sheen of his waistcoat (or whatever it is) is a little bit of bling, that's probably slightly vulgar to Mon Mothma's class. But he's got money and he wants to everyone to know it.

    • @swagtachiuchiha1501
      @swagtachiuchiha1501 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      "One of the indulgences of great wealth is freedom from other people's opinions"

    • @nathanielleeson7263
      @nathanielleeson7263 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@swagtachiuchiha1501 "You've made your point." LOL

  • @scaf5363
    @scaf5363 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Such a brilliant scene. Davo knows that Mon Mothma is pretty much desperate, or else she wouldn't have been asking him in the first place. "That's the first untrue thing you've said." He's so devious and cunning. He knows she is going to think about it and probably go through with his offer and needs to make that sacrifice in order to not get caught by Imperial auditors and ultimately compromise herself. Really plays into the larger theme of the episode; and even the show, really, that sometimes sacrifices (bad or good) need to be made in order for a greater good.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      *Oh yes Davo is indeed. He knows what he's doing during this scene. I feel like Davo has more up his sleeve besides just the meet & greet between his son & her daughter. So, we'll see what happens whenever that meeting occurs.*

    • @MonoZeus
      @MonoZeus ปีที่แล้ว

      💯💯

  • @TheRepty818
    @TheRepty818 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This is how you write dialogue. And what's equally impressive is how all three of these actors elevate the writing. I hope to see more scenes like this.

  • @NickHannula
    @NickHannula ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I love the line "That's the first untrue thing you've said". Obviously she's not telling the truth for practically the whole conversation, but they both know that. They're speaking in code, and the fact that they both understand that makes what they're saying true even if it isn't on the surface. And when Mothma says she's not considering his offer, he knows she's no longer speaking in code, which makes the fact that she *is* considering it a lie.

    • @JNB0723
      @JNB0723 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Exactly. The writers are very good at their jobs.

    • @Durzel
      @Durzel ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Eruditely put. A lie in amongst a shared untruth.

  • @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
    @sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    “What do I sacrifice? Everything.”
    This line can fully apply to Mon Mothma too.

    • @ThatMadCat
      @ThatMadCat 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nah, she just started on he road to sacrifice.

  • @ilex471
    @ilex471 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I thought the actor playing Davo looked familiar. He is the brother of Stephen Dillane, who played Stannis Baratheon on Game of Thrones.

    • @roger5555ful
      @roger5555ful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Holy Shit i knew he was familiar

  • @MichalKaczorowski
    @MichalKaczorowski ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Some Game of Thrones vibe

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      *This is true.*

    • @aquapendulum
      @aquapendulum ปีที่แล้ว +13

      One of the writers of this show came over from House of Cards so you're close.

    • @antonius521
      @antonius521 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@aquapendulum And the actor who plays Davo is the Brother of Stephen Dillane, who played Stannis Baratheon in GoT.

  • @lawrencejohnson3259
    @lawrencejohnson3259 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Tay was like... DAAAAAANNNNGGGGGG.... LOL The acting in this show is nothing less than brilliant!!!

  • @Beppo85
    @Beppo85 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Genevieve O’Reilly is great, but let’s also give a shoutout to the excellent actor who plays Davo. In just this short scene we get a good sense of who he is. He’s smooth, smart, and manipulative. You can get some sense of how he got to where he is, because he zeroes right in on any opportunity to maximize his own advantage and sniffs it out.

    • @R.a.f.a.e.l.
      @R.a.f.a.e.l. หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Damn right. Any other SW show they would've made him into a caricature. Probably saying something in the lines of "Do you have any idea how powerful I am?!" "I always get what I want!". But not in Andor. People say and act in a way you'd actually expect given their position and environment.

  • @rudyvalle9022
    @rudyvalle9022 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Mon Mothma just stepped into a mess she can’t wipe off. Even if her daughter doesn’t like the other kid there’s no way that man will just walk away. He’s got Mon trapped and they both know it.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *I feel the same way. But, I hope that she'll find a way out of this somehow.*

  • @williesimmons4068
    @williesimmons4068 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    One of the best scenes in that episode. Love the dialog.

  • @ericksonlopes6897
    @ericksonlopes6897 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The dialogue is hypnotizing. So refreshing

    • @Gynecologist
      @Gynecologist 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Acting is also top notch!

  • @Davao420
    @Davao420 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    the dialogue and delivery in this scene is just on point. That is true in many of Andor's scenes

  • @nutmegriot209
    @nutmegriot209 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Its interesting how hatred for the Empire is bringing people together who otherwise would have nothing to do with each other. He's already a strong character. I wonder if he'll be an ally in season 2.. even if an unwanted one

  • @missesmandarin9990
    @missesmandarin9990 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    The acting is so good, they wrote some good stories with this Andor series

  • @Meinhardt_Kakuch
    @Meinhardt_Kakuch ปีที่แล้ว +10

    'Are positions sometimes makes decisions for us' whatta powerful line.

  • @ericj55
    @ericj55 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    For a scene with absolutely no action, just impeccable dialog, it's riveting.

  • @nathanlawson313
    @nathanlawson313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good God, this scene is so well written! This was high-stakes, master swordsmanship, taking typical politician statements and cutting them to SHREDS.

  • @localmo88
    @localmo88 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The irony is excellent. The criminal is the most honest person in the room.

  • @noheroespublishing1907
    @noheroespublishing1907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A masterclass in subtext! This is genuinely brilliant on every level, the writing, art direction, and delivery/acting is genius!

  • @GhostPenguin707
    @GhostPenguin707 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Keep coming back to this scene. The dialogue and acting is amazing. Last thing I would've expected was Star Wars to show Mon Mothma's story and it's one of the highlights of this series.

    • @Beppo85
      @Beppo85 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree. Andor has done a lot for Mothma as a character. And after originally only being a deleted scene in Revenge of the Sith, I’m
      glad Genevieve O’Reilly gets to shine.

  • @RoboChris86
    @RoboChris86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Tay's body language throughout this scene is phenomenal. It's almost as if he knows what Davo wants before even Mon herself does. Excellent scene

  • @jebnordost7487
    @jebnordost7487 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Who would have guessed that we would get a Mon Mothma theme one day and that it would be such an amazing piece of music

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The offer is rather generous, too. He's not asking for a betrothal, he's just asking for their kids to meet. Like a sleepover. That's a small price to pay for doing business. If they like each other, they'll freely go and get together. If they don't, they won't. Mon Mothma has to respect that.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      *That is true. But, Davo could use that to his advantage. Hopefully Mothma will figure a way out of this some way.*

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@starwarsunlimiteduniverse Of course he could use that to his advantage. That's why he asked for it. But still, it's a small price to pay for doing business and helping Mon Mothma commit treason against the Empire.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *We'll see what she does. My hope is that she'll turn him down fully or at least, give him what he wants & then turn him away after his son & her daughter meet. Lol! But, I suspect that there will be more to this than just a meet & greet.*

    • @andrewkessler2020
      @andrewkessler2020 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@HolyknightVader999 Yeah. It makes sense too. Maybe I've been watching too much GoT, but a marriage alliance in a situation like this makes a ton of sense. He clearly has *some* idea of what she is asking for and uniting your households is the oldest way on earth to guarantee no one betrays you while you're plotting.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andrewkessler2020 Exactly. Especially since they're practically plotting treason. The man needed a guarantee that Mon Mothma won't do what Luthen did and just sell him out to the Empire to save her own skin. We know Mon Mothma is a good woman, but the banker guy doesn't, and he needed a guarantee of her loyalty.

  • @Beppo85
    @Beppo85 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is so much better and more subtle dialogue than we’re used to in Star Wars.

  • @zcorpalpha2462
    @zcorpalpha2462 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Old Rich Families did this often 🍷

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *This is very true.*

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They still do. They manage the pool of marriage prospects for their children from childhood: Certain schools, certain vacation locales, certain home locations. They make sure their own children grow up in constant contact with the children of other similarly wealthy families.

  • @razorfett147
    @razorfett147 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Just a friendly reminder that this scene comes from the same franchise that had this exchange:
    Padmé : It's only because I'm so in love.
    Anakin : No, it's because I'm so in love with you.
    Padmé : So love has blinded you?

    • @Stickmanvan2
      @Stickmanvan2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thats because George Lucas wrote that. Some of my favorite Star Wars comes from projects that he is the least involved in.

    • @jacob2808
      @jacob2808 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Stickmanvan2 George was an incredible ideas man, but a flawed writer

  • @kevinfamous2950
    @kevinfamous2950 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “Money means very little to me at this point.”

  • @wingspantt
    @wingspantt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's crazy how brutal a scene can be with no violence, cursing, or even loud talking.

  • @abcun17
    @abcun17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What a well crafted, impecably written and exquisitely acted sene! The subtleties and nuances here, make this scene a delight to watch. It also propels it, alongside the rest of "Andor" to the highest levels of quality which is especially important and remarkable given the current state of "Star Wars" and Lucasfilm...

  • @kirkdarling4120
    @kirkdarling4120 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    We're presuming Davo is a bad guy because he doesn't meet Mon Mothma's social standards. But the galaxy has lots of problems. They have planets practicing slavery. They have whole planets supporting gambling and other vices. They have Senators who are bleeding their own planets dry for their own pleasures. Mon Mothma's holier-than-thou attitude may be in her own head.
    But we do know that Davo does not have evil intentions toward her or or family. If he did, he'd use this as a way to blackmail them. Instead, he wants to tie his family to hers. Yes, that's going to give him a greater image of legitimacy, but it also means that her family's safety also becomes a matter of his concern. If their children marry, it becomes Davo's best interest to continue keeping Mon Mothma...or at least her daughter...as safe as possible. That's not a bad thing, considering what Mon Mothma is involved with.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *This is true that Davo wants to add some "extra credit" to his resume so to speak. But, I do believe that he could use a marriage between his son & Mothma's daughter as a tactic. He could use that against her & her family which would for sure cause some real issues between her & Perrin even more. So, we'll see how this goes comes season two because I feel like there's not way that Davo is just getting into a chandrilin marriage between his family & Mothma's just for that reason alone. If it is, cool, but I feel like there's more that he may want in the future. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I appreciate it.*

    • @ibrahimkuyumcu2649
      @ibrahimkuyumcu2649 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mothma's husband Perrin is an illegal gambler, and he lives in Coruscant. It isn't that bad if he's still rich and happy.

  • @rippingtons60
    @rippingtons60 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Mon Mothma: "He is not a banker, he's a THUG" News flash Mothma, most/ALL bankers are thugs, even in a galaxy far far away.

  • @craigjones2415
    @craigjones2415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A drop of discomfort might be the price of doing business. Absolutely perfect.

  • @aussiejed1
    @aussiejed1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love Tay's look at 3:23. He knows there's more to this, he's just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Crusader Kings politics enter Star Wars. I knew it was only a matter of time........

  • @G_Signer
    @G_Signer ปีที่แล้ว +13

    thats how powerful people keep power, they marry into other powerful families, this is always the case, and no its not a horrible custom, its practicality

    • @rocketmik65
      @rocketmik65 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Easy to say that as the one with power, not the one being married off.

    • @_greenrunner_
      @_greenrunner_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rocketmik65 it’s true though. Has been the case for most of human history

    • @kirkdarling4120
      @kirkdarling4120 ปีที่แล้ว

      Still very true.

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rocketmik65 you do realize that the man as well has no choice?. And both men and women were raised to accept this as their destiny

  • @ytnNerdy
    @ytnNerdy ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fuck, that got dark.

  • @luminaraunduli2791
    @luminaraunduli2791 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Masterful scene! This reminds me of John F Kennedy saying something along the lines of, "He kicked my ass!" after his first meeting with Khrushchev. Davo was in complete command of the entire negotiation/meeting, brilliant!

    • @Davao420
      @Davao420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mon held her own, Tay was just a shcoked spectator.

  • @zachcreaghcoen2389
    @zachcreaghcoen2389 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is actually the best dialogue in the whole of Starwars. Absolutely incredible

  • @henman09
    @henman09 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Finally Richard Dillane getting the credit he bloody deserved out of Steve’s (Stannis) shadow 👌

    • @fighterck6241
      @fighterck6241 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stephen played Thomas Jefferson too. I actually didn't know he was his brothers. I thought that this actual was Stephen Dillane...

  • @MrStephenmindo
    @MrStephenmindo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like how Mon Mothma smilingly is like ' hey yeah you can come back, that can be arranged' then they pan to the Tay Kolma and he, am assuming having dealt with Davo before, has ' I know there's a catch here' face.

  • @deansky-lucas7880
    @deansky-lucas7880 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved all of it. So interesting. I was watching a video yesterday about the ambassadors of France, Italy, Switzerland, England and America to Adolf Hitler. Behind all the pageantry and glitter they were desperately trying to get the focus and attention of their countries, unsuccessfully, before Hitler became a runaway train. I see echoes in Andor as well.
    Thank you for posting. Fabulous acting.

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah ปีที่แล้ว

      *Andor
      Endor is the planet of the Ewoks.

    • @deansky-lucas7880
      @deansky-lucas7880 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@budakbaongsiah thank you for noticing. *Very thoughtful.

  • @TheNorthie
    @TheNorthie ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Even for the sake of the Rebellion, I don’t think Mon will sacrifice her daughter for this. She knows how horrible this custom is and she doesn’t want her daughter to experience it too. Even if her daughter is a bit ungrateful rn

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *My hope that she wikk turn Davo down. I won't be surprised if she doesn't go through with it. I just have a high assumption that she will do it but eventually get out of it someway.*

    • @richardlahan7068
      @richardlahan7068 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      She may be willing to sacrifice her daughter's future happiness to keep the Rebellion alive.

    • @G_Signer
      @G_Signer ปีที่แล้ว +10

      horrible? more than the Empire? thats the decision, the Empire, or bad marriage, thats too easy

    • @creatorsfreedom6734
      @creatorsfreedom6734 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sacrifice ? when is the blood ritual ?

    • @nutmegriot209
      @nutmegriot209 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see him relenting, because fighting against the empire will become his top priority, but then mon's daughter falls in love with his son anyway lol

  • @TobeWilsonNetwork
    @TobeWilsonNetwork ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:59 Oh My God. The Rebellion was funded through Financial Engineering

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course it was. Why do you think they got better starfighters than the Imperials? Or a large fleet that can compete with Star Destroyers? Completely staffed with professional crewmen and soldiers with training? Did you think they had to scrape the bottom for that? No. These people were wealthy, and were funding a rebellion so they can retake their "rightful" place in society. That place being their occupation as the "voice" of a people they barely even see or meet.

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว

      *Oh for sure.*

  • @Dresqus
    @Dresqus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    All things are great, but their costumes are simply amazing. Based on our world fashion, yet you can feel Star Wars in them and yet they are not comical. Wonderful job by costume team!

  • @donelson52
    @donelson52 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Andor is superb television in every respect. Mature, thoughtful, beautifully produced and written. Far far better than most Disney crap

  • @aceofspadesguy4913
    @aceofspadesguy4913 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This feels like a completely different universe from everything else Disney has made, it might as well be. Oh how I love it so.

  • @Tlevids
    @Tlevids ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Davo actor = Stannis the Mannis's brother.

  • @patrickstuart3497
    @patrickstuart3497 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mon don't need ice for that drink, it was chilled by her SOUL

  • @lexon7vod
    @lexon7vod ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can't wait to see in season 2 what happens to her daughter and husband. In rebels she's alone after calling emperor a tyrant and escaped coruscant. So im really curious

  • @10CentHead
    @10CentHead 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The writing/acting is just off the charts.

  • @realistic.optimist
    @realistic.optimist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The trick is finding a legal route with many wide lanes. Because the government will always need to do things off the books there will always be avenues for others as well.

  • @Fitchy-ke3wz
    @Fitchy-ke3wz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This show felt so unlike star wars because the writing is so grown up and concise

  • @franobrien4750
    @franobrien4750 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm curious what Luthen would say about this, hopefully we'll find out

    • @starwarsunlimiteduniverse
      @starwarsunlimiteduniverse  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *You know what. Now I'm curious too.* 🤔

    • @kellymccormack8346
      @kellymccormack8346 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you think he might be furious because Mon Mothama is risking the Rebellion’s future?

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luthen would mock Mon Mothma for not making that sacrifice.

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@HolyknightVader999She did make that sacrifice.

    • @HolyknightVader999
      @HolyknightVader999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@alexanderg1935 Then Luthen would be proud of her.

  • @kevinfamous2950
    @kevinfamous2950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Searching for a more fluid banking situation are we?” vs. “yes we’re exploring alternative financing arrangements”

  • @felipejl8182
    @felipejl8182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love this serie, thanks brother for posthing

  • @Sunburn2007
    @Sunburn2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He knew she’d consider it. He purposefully raised the issue of the “old ways having value” in their society, to which Mothma agreed they shared an understanding. The old ways include arranged marriages.

    • @JNB0723
      @JNB0723 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She agreed to the fact that boundaries can be liberating and have value, but she meant that in a different way than he meant that. She meant that boundaries morally are a good thing, while he was talking about boundaries in society that are formed through tradition

    • @Sunburn2007
      @Sunburn2007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JNB0723 True but Mothma would understand at the moment Davo brought up his son coming with him that it could be interpreted both ways.

  • @ppacal1098
    @ppacal1098 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow! After watching the bad writing and direction of Mando season 3 ... looking at this scene with fresh eyes makes you REALLY appreciate the fantastic writing of Andor. No KK meddling here !

    • @RockyHemingway
      @RockyHemingway ปีที่แล้ว +3

      More like we've reach the limits of John Favreau's storytelling ability. He's a big idea guy, never been capable of scenes like these.

    • @JamesJacksonFilmz
      @JamesJacksonFilmz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You do know Kathleen Kennedy was the Executive Producer of this show as well right! She has earned criticism absolutely. But you can’t keep putting every bad thing on her.
      The others have been more in John and Dave’s hands than her. So look to them for blame.

  • @OconByrd519
    @OconByrd519 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never thought I would be so attracted to Mon Mothma!

  • @ladyjustice1474
    @ladyjustice1474 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's going to be interesting to see what happens to Davo and Mon Mothma's husband and daughter. Once she leaves the Senate and pulls the rebel forces together.

  • @The_DA
    @The_DA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:42 Tay is like "oh snap, plot twist!"

  • @s3p4kner
    @s3p4kner ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wonderful scene and great script thanks for the highlight. "Boundaries can be liberating." So he's started legit and outwardly conformed to both tradition and regulation while doing everything to enrich himself by manipulating said system from within. Now he's 'reached a scale' that allows him to act more freely and/or illegally without drawing unwanted attention.
    Some have already called him a Godfather, maybe? Change of perspective: Is the CEO of Goldman-Sachs truly any different? Consider this: Who is 'nobody' Chelsea Clinton married to? An executive of Goldman-Sachs. The woman has neither her father's charisma or mother's ambition or any achievements, connections or ability save who her parents are.
    The Clinton's get an insider at one of the worlds largest financials, helpful when you're sat on billion$ of 'donations' and their daughter is set for life with a nice man, while the Bank gets access to some of the most influential personalities in US politics who've demonstrated they'll do absolutely whatever it takes within the 'rules'. The definition of "I'll make it legal" remember him? Another politician. I love the scriptwriters have tapped into the seedy underworld of everyday politics.
    If you want things in Andor's universe, you marry into wealth, power and connections. FYI The late Princess Diana was married off this way, it's not so far, far away as you think!

  • @missesmandarin9990
    @missesmandarin9990 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had the horrific thought that perhaps he's not just asking for the girl for his son

    • @alexanderg1935
      @alexanderg1935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it was for his son. An arranged marriage. But he's essentially a thug (albeit a well heeled and genteel one) with dark connections. Mon Mothma's family is one of certified nobility and duty of service. She would be muddying her family name and legacy, not to mention her daughter's future. But that was the price. Necessary and unforgivable. In a following scene (before the introduction) you see that she's already made up her mind by tricking her daughter into becoming interested in Chandrilan religious/marriage customs. Mon Mothma plants the seed early and then proceeds to accept the proposal. Awesome writing and acting all round.

    • @armstrongQB1
      @armstrongQB1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexanderg1935 Incorrect, Mon Mothma had no hand in her daughter's attachment to tradition. The daughter had chosen that life long ago as her own form of rebellion against her mother. Mon Mothma didn't trick her daughter into anything. Mon Mothma would have had an even harder time with the situation if her daughter was like her (liberal and against the old ways). Instead, we get a very quick flash forward in the last episode and it seems her daughter had readily agreed to the meeting and looked confident and assured about her choice. Why? Cause Mon Mothma's daughter saw value in the old ways and had zero issue with a betrothal at 15 ish years of age. It would have taken practically no real convincing on Mon Mothma's part. Her daughter in a previous scene is shown doing a traditional ritual meeting with her fellow like minded school girls. Mon Mothma clearly states that it was her daughter's idea which "plants the seeds" for what the audience should expect going forward if Mon Mothma goes through with the proposal. That her daughter will readily agree to the idea.

  • @steveokay8810
    @steveokay8810 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is her own Anton Kreeger moment. The things they have set in motion are going to eventually have an actual cost for not just the Saws and Kreegers and Bixes of the Galaxy, but people like Mon Mothma as well and the first installment is due......now.

  • @markcrum5312
    @markcrum5312 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would not be surprised if Davos was in business with the hutts

    • @NoWayJose24
      @NoWayJose24 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you had any business around the outer rims you probably had to do some dealings with the hutt clans

    • @markcrum5312
      @markcrum5312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoWayJose24ya that’s true and very fortunate or unfortunate for the sap that does that

  • @jacob4920
    @jacob4920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This episode is merely a drop in the ocean, in the entirety of the much larger show. I'm very much enjoying this show, "Game of Galaxies." Star Wars could learn a thing or two from it...

    • @georgechapman9688
      @georgechapman9688 ปีที่แล้ว

      Learn? I doubt it

    • @jacob4920
      @jacob4920 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@georgechapman9688 Under Disney, they probably won't. I'm just saying that they COULD, if they truly wanted to.

    • @budakbaongsiah
      @budakbaongsiah ปีที่แล้ว

      As a massive fan of Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire and a fan of PT's politics, I really love this.
      Imagine a Jedi Ambassador with this level of cunning without even using any Jedi tricks.

  • @TwoonyHorned
    @TwoonyHorned ปีที่แล้ว

    The background music is so moving, given the situation

  • @Stoic_optimist_realist
    @Stoic_optimist_realist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Davo knows his position is superior. She will tow the line.
    If you think MM was in charge of that you are crazy.

  • @Intrepid_Crusader1096
    @Intrepid_Crusader1096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do wonder if Mon Mothma is going to cross paths with Dedra Meero in a future season. It would be an interesting encounter between two of the most powerful and dangerous women in the show. They both operate clandestinely but on opposite sides. Especially since Meero is trying to find the source that will lead her to the rebel leadership, unaware that Mon Mothma, one of the primary leaders is on Coruscant, essentially right under her very nose.

  • @GeorgePark-ce8gk
    @GeorgePark-ce8gk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:20 - I like that Davo sounds kind of a little disappointed as if he had bet a large sum of money that he would find a politician who always tells the truth or keeps an “untrue” record of each person he met

  • @Baslium
    @Baslium ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically, the Rebellion was by child bride at some point.

  • @JNB0723
    @JNB0723 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Davo's right. Our positions always seem to dictate our actions.

  • @alexanderg1935
    @alexanderg1935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sculdun is essentially a thug (albeit a well heeled and genteel one) with dark connections. Mon Mothma's family on the other hand is one of certified nobility and duty of service. She knows that this would besmirch her family name & legacy, not to mention her daughter's future. But that was the price. Necessary and unforgivable.
    In a following scene (before the introduction) you see that she's already made up her mind by tricking her daughter into becoming interested in Chandrilan religious/marriage customs. Mon Mothma plants the seed early and then proceeds to accept the proposal. Awesome writing and acting all round.

  • @gbonkers666
    @gbonkers666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben came along way from London....

    • @12stack73
      @12stack73 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ben Miles is crazy good in Andor.

  • @jonathanmoore7079
    @jonathanmoore7079 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd love it if Davo Sculdun's "boss at the time" was Hego Damask. Sculdun seems like the type of financier Damask would have cultivated. It would be ironic if Damask saw to it that the Rebellion be set-up.

    • @rippingtons60
      @rippingtons60 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, and those of us faithful to the Original/Legends EU know EXACTLY who Hego Damask was..........

    • @jonathanmoore7079
      @jonathanmoore7079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sculdun certainly talks like Hego Damask.

  • @Hondarc51red
    @Hondarc51red ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly think the dorector stole the script to a political thriller and just put in some Star Wars references. Its too good to be a Disney product.

    • @jackreilly4427
      @jackreilly4427 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is some good Disney Star Wars out there

  • @SiM0n1755x
    @SiM0n1755x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate how, in the finale when Leida and Davo's son meet, Davo actually seems empathetic (regretful, even) to just how upset Mon and even Perrin are by the turn of events.
    To me, it makes him seem he's acting out of pragmatism than villainy - to have something and not need it than to need it and not have it.

  • @khadam2221
    @khadam2221 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I LOOOVE about this series (which I've only recently watched) is that in Star Wars things are too often black and white. You pursue greater good? You'll become an apathetic and quite often a pathetic monk - a Jedi. You pursue passion? Well... let's just say that you shouldn't count on maintaining your good looks. But in Andor? My god... Imagine what Mon Mothma would do to Davo had she been force sensitive. She would made his blood boil in his veins, tear him limb from limb. How about Luthen? Not too hard to imagine him as being the same black pit as Palpatine. But they aren't so we can only imagine the lengths of their commitment to the cause. Think about all the vile and dark deeds of Rebelion's leadership that were necessary to create a situation in which Luke Skywalker, the embodiment of the light side, could save the day and eventually redeem Vader who then destroys Palpatine. Star Wars flourishes on nuance. Hope we get more of it with Season 2. If it comes to be.

  • @chriswhited
    @chriswhited หลายเดือนก่อน

    what will it COST. BECAUSE that's what matters. "price" is just a tag with numbers written on it.

  • @kevinderamus5062
    @kevinderamus5062 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:42 - the look on Tate Kolma’s face! Pricless

  • @greyeagle7713
    @greyeagle7713 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been reading the X-Wing series of books lately, and one scene described in The Krytos Trap had Mon Mothma in this very room once again, this time as President/Head of State of the New Republic, and meeting with Admiral Ackbar and General Airen Cracken, to discuss the Krytos pandemic ravaging Coruscant.

  • @tamashorvath224
    @tamashorvath224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This guy woudnt't look out of place on a Hutt cartel or Crimson dawn meeting.

  • @AdamE96
    @AdamE96 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the music track played towards the end of the scene?

  • @bjarnetungland4544
    @bjarnetungland4544 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can the dialogue on this be so good and everything else in star wars is so shit

  • @dmmamc
    @dmmamc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    18th-19th century royals meets Star Wars.

  • @jonathandiaz4997
    @jonathandiaz4997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7 months ago

  • @RUdigitized
    @RUdigitized 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wells Fargo and the empire have a lot in common

  • @kennybarrera7734
    @kennybarrera7734 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EP number ??

  • @hexortime
    @hexortime ปีที่แล้ว

    at the end mothma just gave up his daughter hahaha for the rebellion

  • @johnroscoe2406
    @johnroscoe2406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I grew up with 1983 ROTJ Mon Mothma.
    And somehow, despite all Disney has ruined with SW, they have managed to make me think "damn Mon Mothma is hot."
    How the fuck Disney are you going to crap all over SW on one hand, but make Mon Mothma a stone cold MILF on the other? How do you even...?! :D

    • @NoCluYT
      @NoCluYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I knew I wasn't the only one.

    • @joel5135
      @joel5135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fr i even like her more than padme 💀