It did. Dire Promise came with faction events but old promise was around during vanilla before then. I remember loving the old fashioned over the better devils back in the day.
Back in the dark days of Year 1, this thing was popular. It Midnight Coup, and Dire Promise were the top Kinetic HCs. Old Fashioned was unique since it had Kill Clip and could 3-tap when only 110s could.
@@t3hpwn3r3r if your talking about explosive rounds then no since they were always this good and if your talking about the explosions then also no they were always this good. People didn't notice since it was extremely slept on.
I think it's unfair that "Jim" can use gjallerrations but I, a wittle baby new light, can't. What's the point of sunsetting if it's still in the game. It is an unfair disadvantage. And that's a fact
@@titanmain1691 yes and no, yes for casual play having a weapon other people cant get is unfair but no because you cant use it in activities where power level actually matters
hmmm I preferred the Old Fashioned to Dire Promise but my actual favourite was the super rare D2 yr1 Agamid. Named after a lizard species, the Agamid was their 110/120 relative , like the weird uncle which was a fixed roll with Rampage. It was low meta and had great hit registration. I'm sure others remember it.
@Mountaintop mine is only quickdraw, explosive payload but shit masterwork and first two columns are trash as well /: still loved it in pve too tho, didn't know it was sunset. Sad days
Who is everyone lol? I loved this thing and I’m gonna be honest I like the rolls on this way more than dire and even when 150s were in the game I liked the extra range better.
i actually hated it because during year 1 d2 i didnt have this masterpiece i had A dire promise with no kill clip and everyone had the old fashioned with kill clip and i get outgunned every damn time
I dont know why, but i love 140s in destiny, my favourite legendary hand cannon is the better devils at least in modes where you can still play sunsetted weapons
Part of the reason Old Fashioned probably doesn't feel as good is because it has *20* less base AA. Outside of that, you can make a case for The Old Fashioned. It has several great perks and perk combos that Dire Promise can't roll.
"This guy has the worst aim ever" - You're just lucky you've never faced me. I could waste 10 sniper shots on a dead body and miss every one!!! :-) Thumbskills? I'd get beaten by chimps playing with their toes!!!
To be fair a dead body wouldn't have any aim assist or bullet magmatism so it could be harder I suppose if you where shooting at a stationary living player 🧠👍
Actually it's kinda the opposite coz dire promise was a faction reward from Arach Jalaal and old fashioned was a collections gun, being reissued with season of dawn
Here’s what most don’t know : when hand cannons got their recoil buff a few seasons ago if y’all remember that ? Uhh the old fashioned and jack queen king weren’t included in that hot fix … that’s why it feels awful to use I ain’t making this up btw.. I know this very well cse when HCs got buffed back then I was really excited to use my QD kill clip roll with a range masterwork .. till this day , it still sits in my vault lol 🥲
No, they were. Old fashioned just has less aim assist than dire. (70 aim assist Vs Dire’s 92) and Jack queen king has such a bulky model so even with the recoil changes it still feels like poop.
@@warv6552 fam are you certain about wtf you’re talking about at all 😂… aim assist has got nothing to do with the old hc recoil that got adjusted similarly to the same recoil/screen shake hotfix that smgs received.. I’d know , I tried both weapons, I ain’t talking based off something you potentially heard off some lousy TH-camr or online lol
@@ItsTendy27 Old fashioned has the same recoil animation as Dire. Are you sure *you* know what you’re talking about? I’ve used Old fashioned for a whole season before and it is the exact same animation.
@@warv6552 it’s a sensitive topic for me .. yes I’m certain about what I’m saying , however I don’t intend on engaging on a debate over a sunset weapon I merely intended to shed light on a true fact .
@@pricemedlin5651 it has to do with that and how fast you aim down sights. And the ads is slow as hell as well as when you put the gun away. Meaning, you can pull it out quick but the handling is still ass
The oldfasioned and service revolver we're my two favorite hand cannons back in the day, they still are but I will not take this slander twords my baby
I still have two old fashioned handcannons I kept one with one with slideshot explosive payload and the other with quickdraw and kill clip. I haven’t used them in a long time, stopped using them after I got a good rolled dire promise.
Except me.. still to this day, my most used handcannon ever, and i've played since D1. The only thing that stopped me from continuing was sunset Q_Q It was a heartbreaking moment..
Old fashioned was in the game first so it would be the other way round. There was home for the lost and Agamid that the same frame as well. "It's hard to make new content" Bungo
I actually mained this gun in season 11 before I got my Dire Promise god roll. Unfortunately I didn't know it was getting sunset so I disassembled it. :(
I really loved the rolls on Old fashioned compared to Dire but it just was not the play seeing how 150s were just better. Wish I didn't dismantle but oh well. I still use my Austringer and Spare from time to time though. Edit: Also the reason the handling, reload and even the hit registration feels off from dire is because it's an OG 140 so it has 140 stats and dire has the stats of a 150 but shoots at 140.
No way I jimmed out and said my roll twice 🥸💀 oh well just making sure you guys know I have QuickDraw and explosive rounds
Also I was chuckling at the start of the first game bc I was watching a sird video 😅
So what roll is your The old fashioned?
@@SayWallahBruh SirD x Wallah collab reviewing a weapon pog?
thumbnail wrong 😔 old fashioned came first
I thought I was tripping and had a deja vu, had to go back a few seconds to make sure. True Gamer moment
Dire: "you're weak"
Old fashion: "I'm you!"
Can wallah make a video on you please
If you kill Heavy, he will die.
You’re
@@JayPatel-it6nd not a English essay so don't care
@@JayPatel-it6nd but out of pride I will change it
Rangefinder + Opening Shot is what makes Dire special. Beefy base stats as well.
I prefer swashbuckler over rangefinder because with
times one swash you can two head one body and i don't like the extra zoom that rangefinder has
@@henotron1747 that’s actually quite smart
Is Dire with this roll better than Fatebringer?
After the removal of 150’s I think makes its range stats kinda poor.
I have a max range god role dire and honestly it just doesn’t hit like it used to man ace is just god now tbh
Back in the old days we were always joking that The Old Fashioned is basically a Dire Promise that used too much so it can only fires 10 RPM slower.
150s had higher aim assist over 140s and they kept that aspect when they became 140s so the dire would probably feel better than the old fashion
The Dire Promise is actually a copy of The Old Fashioned. The Old Fashioned came out at launch. While Dire came out the 1st Faction Rally
Thank you, needed to be said. And I used OF a year before sunset with Feeding Frenzy+EP. That. Thing. SLAYED.
I was going to say literally no one hated OF.
“We have dire promise at home”
Dire at home
I always thought the old fashion actually came before the Dire
It did. Dire Promise came with faction events but old promise was around during vanilla before then. I remember loving the old fashioned over the better devils back in the day.
@@Acklow thought so. So it should be the other way around then^ I always preferred old fashion. My first main HC
@@Dooozey Old fashioned was everyone's main handcannon until dire came out. Got slept on pretty quickly after that.
Back in the dark days of Year 1, this thing was popular. It Midnight Coup, and Dire Promise were the top Kinetic HCs. Old Fashioned was unique since it had Kill Clip and could 3-tap when only 110s could.
“Deleted 150s from the game”
*Sad Sunshot noises*
I feel like they definitely buffed the explosive damage lol
@@t3hpwn3r3r if your talking about explosive rounds then no since they were always this good and if your talking about the explosions then also no they were always this good. People didn't notice since it was extremely slept on.
Wallah: You’d have it use it for yourself
It’s sunset bruh, probably doesn’t drop anymore
I think it's unfair that "Jim" can use gjallerrations but I, a wittle baby new light, can't. What's the point of sunsetting if it's still in the game.
It is an unfair disadvantage. And that's a fact
@@titanmain1691 you can get it from the planet faction like devrim I think?
@@titanmain1691 yes and no, yes for casual play having a weapon other people cant get is unfair but no because you cant use it in activities where power level actually matters
hmmm I preferred the Old Fashioned to Dire Promise but my actual favourite was the super rare D2 yr1 Agamid. Named after a lizard species, the Agamid was their 110/120 relative , like the weird uncle which was a fixed roll with Rampage. It was low meta and had great hit registration. I'm sure others remember it.
They removed this thing from the loot pool before I ever got the roll I wanted. I'm still salty about it till this day.
@Mountaintop mine is only quickdraw, explosive payload but shit masterwork and first two columns are trash as well /: still loved it in pve too tho, didn't know it was sunset. Sad days
Who is everyone lol? I loved this thing and I’m gonna be honest I like the rolls on this way more than dire and even when 150s were in the game I liked the extra range better.
i actually got my first and only we ran out of medals with old fashioned
This is actually the best handcannon in the game
i actually hated it because during year 1 d2 i didnt have this masterpiece i had A dire promise with no kill clip and everyone had the old fashioned with kill clip and i get outgunned every damn time
I tend to over correct my aim. Dire always felt too twitchy for me. Love this HC much more.
@@pavementsailor yeah dire doesnt feel as crisp as old fashion imo. Old Fashion just feels great when you have a good roll.
The old fashioned was out before the dire promise
“This is actually my first time using it”
*Crucible opponents defeated: 34*
he bought a used one
Not on his own account lol
He's not on his acc idiot😑
watch out, you got told by an anime profile picture
A triple tap explosive round old fashioned was my first legendary gun. It’ll always have a special place in my heart
I dont know why, but i love 140s in destiny, my favourite legendary hand cannon is the better devils at least in modes where you can still play sunsetted weapons
Deadlox here, I new this vid would be out eventually 👏🔥
The title is so true though
I loved this gun with Demolitionist and Kill Clip in PvE being I’m a grenade heavy warlock main, sadly it’s sunset.
Part of the reason Old Fashioned probably doesn't feel as good is because it has *20* less base AA. Outside of that, you can make a case for The Old Fashioned. It has several great perks and perk combos that Dire Promise can't roll.
This rolled with kill clip too. Nothing crazy, but made room for error. I loved that gun. Wish they'd bring it back
I be using Wallahs code and getting SirDs flavor to support both at the same time
Did uh, anybody else notice that um, Wallah read the entire roll of the gun twice with almost exactly the same wording?
Exquistie audio-visual material Jim
The old fashioned was my very first legendary hand cannon back in season 1 so it has a special place in my heart
Correct me if i’m wrong, but wasn’t old fashioned older than dire? I remember old fashioned having a red war static roll before statics got removed.
Dire came out a few months after old fashion
yea its the og
“Skill shot user sorry “
Is it just me or is walla a goat
i actually loved this gun for some reason
Yoo wallah ur fav streamer ur content so amazing and content creator
"This guy has the worst aim ever" - You're just lucky you've never faced me. I could waste 10 sniper shots on a dead body and miss every one!!! :-) Thumbskills? I'd get beaten by chimps playing with their toes!!!
To be fair a dead body wouldn't have any aim assist or bullet magmatism so it could be harder I suppose if you where shooting at a stationary living player 🧠👍
I loved old fashioned in solo PvE since it could roll demo and kill clip
"it got really slow. That was annoying...." As he wins 20 to 6 😆
Old Fashioned: Get's hate because it looks like Dire Promise
True Prophecy and Steady Hand: *Nervous sweating.*
Man I had a good old fashioned but I deleted it and now kinda regret it.
Dire promise and old fashioned is just Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man
Old Fashioned is my favorite hand cannon on d2
I've always liked the old fashioned more than the site promise so it's nice to see someone is showing it some attention
Still got it in my vault since I got it like last year
I was there when the idea was posted
I just assume that everything wallah says not followed by “I’m not gonna lie” is a lie.
I remember bitch-slapping people in the crucible with this thing back in Y1.
I miss my Dire Promise that I accidentally infused into another item. RIP overflow rangefinder ricochet.
Back in my Jim days I mained old fashioned because I didnt know about dire and spare rations but the gun was always good for me
O.F. FOR LIFE
Bungo: we need a hc
Guy at bungie: take dire promise model and turn him 140
Bungo: I E S
@@cerebralassassin117 jebaited
Wallah, please do some trials, I really need to see how you play in trials
QuickDraw explosive rounds was a really fun roll to use on the ol fashioned.
Old fashioned was rolled with explosive and demo and was my favourite pve hc
That old fashion roll is my favorite
They need to bring back the old school looking weapons, I love the look and feel of dire promise 😭😬
When Wallah shits on your 3rd favorite Sunset kinetic 140 Hand Cannon.
Wish I had kept mine. Feels bad
liking the frequent uploads
this is one of my most used weapons i used to pair it up with the funny French bow
I was a scum bag and I was running around with this and GL
The upload schedule is mad
I used to love this gun. Still have 2 masterworked sitting in my vault taking up my valuable space.
Actually it's kinda the opposite coz dire promise was a faction reward from Arach Jalaal and old fashioned was a collections gun, being reissued with season of dawn
Slideshot kill clip
Im glad you reassured us you are not gonna lie
Here’s what most don’t know : when hand cannons got their recoil buff a few seasons ago if y’all remember that ? Uhh the old fashioned and jack queen king weren’t included in that hot fix … that’s why it feels awful to use
I ain’t making this up btw.. I know this very well cse when HCs got buffed back then I was really excited to use my QD kill clip roll with a range masterwork .. till this day , it still sits in my vault lol 🥲
No, they were. Old fashioned just has less aim assist than dire. (70 aim assist Vs Dire’s 92) and Jack queen king has such a bulky model so even with the recoil changes it still feels like poop.
@@warv6552 fam are you certain about wtf you’re talking about at all 😂… aim assist has got nothing to do with the old hc recoil that got adjusted similarly to the same recoil/screen shake hotfix that smgs received.. I’d know , I tried both weapons, I ain’t talking based off something you potentially heard off some lousy TH-camr or online lol
@@ItsTendy27 Old fashioned has the same recoil animation as Dire. Are you sure *you* know what you’re talking about? I’ve used Old fashioned for a whole season before and it is the exact same animation.
@@warv6552 it’s a sensitive topic for me .. yes I’m certain about what I’m saying , however I don’t intend on engaging on a debate over a sunset weapon
I merely intended to shed light on a true fact .
Omg,…i wished for so long you would make a video of dire promise
Wallah's movement is just insane! Almost like he's using speed hacks.
100 mobility probably helps a bit
Me: "I have role roll with kill clip and it smacks in pvp for me"
What was that shock effect at 6:47?
Dunemarchers
Used to love this gun, keep up the content big man
“this gun has bad handling” *has quickdraw*
Quickdraw does nothing to the handling. only means you can pull it out quickly, so the weapon still has bad handling
@@cooperbaden-powell8759 does handling not dictate how fast you pull out the gun
@@pricemedlin5651 it has to do with that and how fast you aim down sights. And the ads is slow as hell as well as when you put the gun away. Meaning, you can pull it out quick but the handling is still ass
What roll is your old fashioned?
Awwww...you look great wearing pants! So proud of you, Wallah.
Got a QuickDraw snapshot max range one. Favorite gun in the game right now
The oldfasioned and service revolver we're my two favorite hand cannons back in the day, they still are but I will not take this slander twords my baby
Dire Promise+ Old Fashioned= Old Promises= Fashioned Promise
I still have two old fashioned handcannons I kept one with one with slideshot explosive payload and the other with quickdraw and kill clip. I haven’t used them in a long time, stopped using them after I got a good rolled dire promise.
Old fashioned came before dire. Technically it's his dad.
That intro was great
This gun was the perfect partner for Le Monarque. One head shot with the bow and quick draw clean up with the burn. So disgusting
I have a slideshot and killclip roll. Probably the best feeling version of the gun I’ve used.
Except me.. still to this day, my most used handcannon ever, and i've played since D1.
The only thing that stopped me from continuing was sunset Q_Q
It was a heartbreaking moment..
To me the true 140s always felt crispier than 150s, so old fashioned feels way better than dire promise to me and always has
‘Not gonna lie’ counter 3x
it kinda looks like thorn
I have a high range roll with demolitionist and explosive payload, genuinely super strong
your hunter look like a soviet tank driver
You are not beating rangefinder opening shot direpromise wtf bro lol
I’ve wanted this gun because of how cool the name was
Can you do a video of your D2 graphics pls I’m having trouble to find the best setting
Need more of wallah hunter man
Old fashioned was in the game first so it would be the other way round. There was home for the lost and Agamid that the same frame as well. "It's hard to make new content" Bungo
When are we getting that Nergal PR4 video?
I had this exact same roll and deleted it when sunsetting came around. I miss the damn thing....
Le Monarche, oath keepers with your quick explosive rounds old fashioned
What is that shader on ur seventh seraph... btw luv ur vids keep up the good work
I have this exact roll and I have 6k pvp kills with it, by far my favorite legendary hand cannon
I actually mained this gun in season 11 before I got my Dire Promise god roll. Unfortunately I didn't know it was getting sunset so I disassembled it. :(
Can you please use the blue Handcannon that can still have kill clip for a video?
the only reason I didn't use this was because I hated how it looked and liked the "better devils" look better (that model of hc)
I really loved the rolls on Old fashioned compared to Dire but it just was not the play seeing how 150s were just better. Wish I didn't dismantle but oh well. I still use my Austringer and Spare from time to time though.
Edit: Also the reason the handling, reload and even the hit registration feels off from dire is because it's an OG 140 so it has 140 stats and dire has the stats of a 150 but shoots at 140.