This Japanese Build Order Stops The Fast Fortress In Its Tracks

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  • @GeneralGrom
    @GeneralGrom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    3:05 this steal-micro and the taunt to his response is brilliant

  • @viffaria
    @viffaria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Your videos are a great inspiration and I've started playing aoe3 DE because of them! I just really wish you did a beginner kind of tutorial, your didactic is great! Thank you

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your wish is my command. I'll put it on the list.

  • @KernelKonig
    @KernelKonig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love playing Japan, thanks for the video bruv!

  • @slomonoaware
    @slomonoaware 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, Aussie! I started using this build and even though it delays my rush by about 45 seconds, the midgame staying power is totally worth

  • @shentastico7525
    @shentastico7525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video now I know a new strategy, thanks bro, continue with the content

  • @GamersCommunityCH
    @GamersCommunityCH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video, thx! I really like your content. Could you consider making a video about defending an early rush as Japan?

  • @johnpagley9435
    @johnpagley9435 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your training/tip videos are great! Where have you been... lol Keep up the good work!

  • @ChaosSugarHD
    @ChaosSugarHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    And again great video man! Looking forward for the upcoming videos! :)
    Your content supports us a lot in improving yourself further in the game.
    Since the DE release i have tested all the different civs and I am still not sure which civ i should mainly focus to improve..
    Changing civilizations over and over again makes it difficult to learn the mechanics properly. Can you or someone else give me an advice which civ i should focus on to be competetive in 1v1s and still perfoming well in Team Games?

  • @EstebanSastreSuarez
    @EstebanSastreSuarez 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ffa is hilarious :3 looking forward to your games, Mr. Drongo

  • @roanwestraat9604
    @roanwestraat9604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Aussie! Thanks for these videos, definitely the best AOE3DE youtuber! I have a request, is there any way you could also make a simplified one view diagram for the build orders and time stamps for the expected result when you follow these build orders?

  • @phoenixx51
    @phoenixx51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Been really anticipating this one, thank you!
    Edit: I was just wondering why you don't go for torii gate, it gives you 1.6x xp for more shipments, a military building rickshaw, so saving that 170 wood for more shrines/yumi and 1 samurai to help out vs cav or take a couple of volleys which would save a musket or two. Ive been testing big shrine vs torii a lot lately and feel like torii just does more for you in the short term which is where japan has some problems.

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      probably because torii gate gives 1.6x xp for -military- xp. Not 1.6x for all xp
      not as big an effect

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@napoleon950 I've just tested it right now, It increases build xp for buildings, units and kill xp

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@phoenixx51 all buildings or only military ones?

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@napoleon950 All buildings and all units, so even including shrines and villagers

    • @napoleon950
      @napoleon950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@phoenixx51 damn that's good. I like it.

  • @vhaun
    @vhaun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great release with explanations as well...Recently seeing a lot of players using this Civ...no wonder why lol

  • @chrisstoner99
    @chrisstoner99 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    salut from brazil bro, awesome content as always!! Bring a game with japanese that you reach age 4 pls

  • @samwilcox10
    @samwilcox10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job dude keep up the good work? Might I suggest getting started on Twitch to broaden your platform a bit? You'll grow very quickly if doing both YT and Twitch. Cheers 🤘

  • @sr.lontra
    @sr.lontra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm looking foward to that Chinese video

  • @Suedehead__
    @Suedehead__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @ Aussie_Drongo, thx for your brilliant work and your infinite inspiration to players like me below elo 1600!
    Would you recommend your strat with Japan vs. Dutch too or should some special adaptations take place in this case?

  • @vegannegan9652
    @vegannegan9652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like to put the consulate on Dutch, send the consulate card as second shipment and age up with the big shrine (it gives 200 export). Then you can immediately send a bank wagon from your consulate when you are aged up.

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      For a civ that is naturally strong in booming with their shrines, I think getting the bank so early may be too greedy. Also, this means you'll spend 93 wood per shrine (so 18 more) so more shrine time on wood needed. Lastly, the shrines are flexible and can be rebuilt with ease. The bank lacks both properties.

    • @vegannegan9652
      @vegannegan9652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FrederickWillemV Consulate + banks means a 0.75 + 2.75 = 3.50 gold trickle. Also after a minute or so you can send a curch wagon which gives a nice xp trickle.
      To compensate for this greedy strat your first two age 2 shipments must be 5 ashi/yumi. Itherwise you are to vulnerable to rushes.

  • @KevoStylesK
    @KevoStylesK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey buddy. following ur channel now since ur first video and i think ur doing a great job on these videos. i dont play a lot but i used to play pretty often back in the days. and you saif you want to talk abour japanese and india next. i used to play india like every single game back then. but since im playing the DE i fee like the european civs do have way more potential for lategame. all these new revolutions are pretty strong. playing india feels weak against them. do you have any idea how to beat european civs in the late game as india? thinking about ports, germans, sweden or dutch? besides a basic rush?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can be quite difficult as India have difficulty vs heavy cannon / artillery spam. Your best bet is to go a combination of ghurka, zamburak and mixing sowar in the midgame, for the lategame, your best bet is to try and outmass them.

  • @F4xxN
    @F4xxN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Aussie, thank you for the nice video, very well executed BO. I especially like the balance of having a strong economy and applying pressure - with that amount of ashigarus u can smash the 2 falc timings or any strong age3 cav-shipments. Would you consider this BO as useful to defend against strong rushes? 600w at first might be too slow for that.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Against a strong rush it would still be viable, as you can always use your town centre to kill units while you mass behind your TC.

  • @gamefreak203
    @gamefreak203 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the vid, going to try this

  • @todr9032
    @todr9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    ship daymio before ashigaru since u can ship ashi direct on top of the daiymio

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The impact of the daymo is alot smaller then
      And if it dies to early its useless for the finall push

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not a bad idea, but we mainly want to use the daimyo to boost the attack of our ashigaru, we are not so worried about having our units there on time or not. It's important we ship 5 ashi as our third and fourth shipment so that we can increase our mass and ward off any potential pressure from the enemy.

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    is there a reason why you mainly use your shrines to produce coin?
    i personally prefer to produce food with them cause there are plenty of gold mines you can gather from, but once your cherries run out you either have to transition to rice fields or waste a shipment on additional cherry gardens. so it seems to me having your "16 vills" gather food instead of coin would be the better use, no?

  • @sirjon103
    @sirjon103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Take a sip for Everytime he says shrine

  • @adn17
    @adn17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Aussie, quality content as usual! I'm running out of expressions to praise you now :)
    It's a strategy that I've been using for a while and you cleared some of my doubts. I use to squeeze in the market but with your build, i realize the market is not that important.
    I'm happy you are showcasing some asian civs. I was just about to ask you before this video how do you deal with the default hotkeys. They require adaptation because the shrines for example is hotkey "E" whereas houses were "Q". For indians, I noticed it is "S".

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When it comes to using default keys, it really takes a few games to adjust to them, my first game I kept bringing up the wonders when I wanted to build a house, but by the 10th game or so, I was very comfortable. Edit: also - market is definitely a viable choice to build with 600 wood and get the berry upgrades.

    • @adn17
      @adn17 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AussieDrongo I just won a ranked and non-ranked game with this strat :D instant feedback

  • @jordanrudderham7981
    @jordanrudderham7981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Stay chuned”

  • @solffie9613
    @solffie9613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow what a jewel I have stumbled up on

  • @SergioFredes
    @SergioFredes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why British didn't mass some bows and push your musk with hit and run?
    With that he could avoid the pressure on settlers gathering food.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was using his resources to age up and send the falconet shipment.

  • @jabohonu
    @jabohonu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you do the chinese video about the Old Han reformes ? And or hand mortars ?
    And nice vídeo here

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Old han reforms 😅

    • @elkoku2002
      @elkoku2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats late game, its a must if you get there, in DE old han was nerfed, but still worth it. hand mortars its a must to, always get at least 10 and no more that 25

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Also, I wonder how many civs can stop a FF in its tracks.

    • @Joshuamrsnrub325
      @Joshuamrsnrub325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      does stopping a FF before before you even hit fortress count XD if so otto iro souix will handle it just fine haha

    • @KleinerGrenadier
      @KleinerGrenadier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Modt civs can ether stop it by a rush
      Or civs like durch or germans can harass and outmatch enemy in fortress age wirh superior stuff (mercs, ruyters, freehlans...)

    • @delphidelion
      @delphidelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm actually finding a speed buffed and poison buffed jungle bows to be quite effective for inca. Poison is indiscriminate. The speed helps them a ton and you can switch to chimu if they switch to skirms or something.

  • @Mhzuin
    @Mhzuin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if possible, make a video on how to play Lakotas. I just love the civ, but I'm having a lot of problems in keeping up the pace with my economy in the long run. I know it is a good civ to play rush, but I wonder If it works as well in treaty.

  • @zboson
    @zboson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Usually when i try a japanese early push, i would go for 300w and japanese consulate after transition. Do you think, that this strategy is definitly better?

    • @carlossime6572
      @carlossime6572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its better... since the aoe3 all the Pro plays like that, consulade; 1 House and the card that increase the resources for the house

  • @bardackx2
    @bardackx2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! and how do we defend against this?

  • @jdnetwork-reselling
    @jdnetwork-reselling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    am i suppose to be gathering with mostly all vills at the start ? back in the original i thought the meta was all on gathers at start and leave 1 for the creates - also please do a vid on the British live stock meta thats so broken right now

    • @LaddRusso91
      @LaddRusso91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just one vill on crates is way too slow. You want to start building vills as soon as possible, same with the consulate

  • @kevinessington8220
    @kevinessington8220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have lost to this move before! LOL. I am surprised the Brit player didn't scout more and switch to bows. It may not have saved him but it would have given him a chance.

  • @arti4979
    @arti4979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what if u start with only one cherry orchard?

  • @KingTiger10588
    @KingTiger10588 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that port consulate tho :3

  • @thegeneral19
    @thegeneral19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    finally! Asian civs get some love

  • @BoTisHerE1
    @BoTisHerE1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what happens if he had longbows instead of musk ?

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not to be a stickler, but the vowels of Japanese are "Ah"a "ee"i "ooo"u "ey"e "oh"o, so it is "die-myoh" for daimyo

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haha thanks Dave. I'll try to remember, die-myoh. I doubt I will though!

  • @Joshuamrsnrub325
    @Joshuamrsnrub325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    nooooooooooo captions are off i can't watch this in chem anymore :(

  • @BanditoCGET
    @BanditoCGET 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the reason of putting shines on hunts? Are they like trops and gather food? Or is it just so you can see if the enemy sets are gathering there/line of sight?

    • @phoenixx51
      @phoenixx51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      A shrine can attract up to 4 nearby animals, making them unable to be hunted by your opponent and increasing the trickle rate on your shrines by 0.07 per animal it has attracted.

    • @todr9032
      @todr9032 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shrine should be on wood or gold execpt if you are running out of food on the berries since villager gather faster food

    • @abcdefgdude2843
      @abcdefgdude2843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@todr9032 Shrines gather wood slower as well

  • @ukon2062
    @ukon2062 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's quite wired to see ashigaru in-game is heavy infantry as 足軽 means literally light infantry.
    As 足 means on foot and 軽 means light weight.

  • @trajanomarco2173
    @trajanomarco2173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good, but you could have made some clubs too. You had 400 xp. That extra siege can save you.

  • @godofmoi96
    @godofmoi96 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    monks shouldnt be grouped with the ashi since ashi have superior speed without them

  • @rishabhwatts1676
    @rishabhwatts1676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to send in a hatamoto with your export!

  • @outlaw4016
    @outlaw4016 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is disgusting. I love it. Lmao.

  • @jurajmalatin5191
    @jurajmalatin5191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about in stead of japan. isolation shipping xbows for a bit earlier push?

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried this and have to say it works quite well, especially because the crossbowmen you receive have +10% hp and attack, outclassing opposing crossbowmen. If you ship the 300 export shipment later, you can also switch to japan cheaply afterwards.

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On water maps you need to ship the Portuguese fishing boats, but on land maps, it is an option if you wish to delay your isolation.

  • @kodystutzman5509
    @kodystutzman5509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so what do you do if you run this strat and then your opponent just happened to mass 30+ longbows.. just die?

    • @FLASH432FULL
      @FLASH432FULL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stop ashi production, make stable, more vills on coin, and make 5 nagis

  • @iwersonsch5131
    @iwersonsch5131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How effective is the first builder on a wonder compared to additional builders?

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tested this myself and found that the age up time for the number of villagers is 1:50 for 1 villager and 10 seconds less per additional villager (so long as they all start simultaneously)

    • @iwersonsch5131
      @iwersonsch5131 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrederickWillemV So does this mean that adding an 8th villager is more efficient than adding a 7th one, as it adds less villager time for the same speedup?

  • @Drachenfurie
    @Drachenfurie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Please make a video on how to become Hokage next.

  • @user-pt7wn8pm1j
    @user-pt7wn8pm1j 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is an analysis:
    For British 10 mask need 750F + 250G / 30s,1 village need 100F / 25s.
    With market tech level 2, food rate = (50/60) *1.3 / 1s, gold rate =(36/60) * 1.3 / 1s,
    As a result, British only need [750/30/1.3/(50/60)+100/25/1.3/(50/60)]=27 village for Food; 250/30/1.3/(36/60)=11 village for Gold.
    Then, British can keep 10 mask and 1 village. it does not take long time to achieve this.
    In age 2, British has 2 card to +15% HP and +15% weapon.
    After those 2 card British mask will be powerful than Japan mask with lower cost.
    By the way, British bow is powerful than Japan bow, too.
    So, I think if British try to fight in age 2, Japan can not win so easy.

  • @colonnellomccandless4229
    @colonnellomccandless4229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why didn't the brit go for lb? Macro?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was doing a brit semi FF which masses muskets and ships 2 falcs. Longbow don't pair so well with falconets.

    • @colonnellomccandless4229
      @colonnellomccandless4229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AussieDrongo Thnx m8!

  • @sergeantmemeswaraj7048
    @sergeantmemeswaraj7048 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    u didnt even mention luck of the seven gods card :(

  • @Roronoa_ZoroX
    @Roronoa_ZoroX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Market ?

    • @ThePresentation010
      @ThePresentation010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's 1v1.
      Where the hard fights happen.
      Not treaty, boom bs

  • @santosjavi
    @santosjavi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why we need the 300 wood card? It's not just better another random age 4 card?

    • @raitaitai3427
      @raitaitai3427 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If u will reach age 4 most will rush in age 2 or 3 so wood can be helpfull

    • @hardlyyr6739
      @hardlyyr6739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its more of a mind game card imo. It can trick opponent into thinking your doing smthing else. Club rush, early tp, other wierd off meta stuff.

    • @santosjavi
      @santosjavi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, ok, I’m just starting with DE and I’m playing japanese, so I found myself never using this card; so having it in my deck was kind of wtf

  • @Koshak87
    @Koshak87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What game is this?

    • @AussieDrongo
      @AussieDrongo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Age Of Empires 3: Definitive Edition. You can find it on steam here: store.steampowered.com/app/933110/Age_of_Empires_III_Definitive_Edition/

  • @jeromemartel3916
    @jeromemartel3916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate playing vs japan. It's like a ticking time bomb, the more you wait the more you likely to loose. It is so a passive civ yet put so much pressure on the opponent because of that time factor. It's just not a good healthy civ design for an RTS.

    • @dimitrisoikonomou3568
      @dimitrisoikonomou3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Play Iroquis and defeat them in less than 10 minutes... Russians devestate them as well. Its mid to late game civ, if you rush or outscale Japan, is an exepnsive xp piniata...

    • @jeromemartel3916
      @jeromemartel3916 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dimitrisoikonomou3568 what about quick search? You can't counter pick. And most recent tourny games where japan is played, japan win too.

    • @ghjmar1
      @ghjmar1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jeromemartel3916 just play Germans well and Japan is no problem

    • @FrederickWillemV
      @FrederickWillemV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Japan is a naturally booming civ due to their shrines. That means it has a significant advantage against turtle strats. The best way to counter the japanese is by pressuring heavily and eliminating shrines, which prevents them from training troops. Make sure to keep building your own eco in the meantime if your all-in fails.

  • @babbulvideos
    @babbulvideos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wanna play 1vs1? i think i can beat that ashigaru rush taunt 21

  • @milosstojanovic4623
    @milosstojanovic4623 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats why i dont play online games, every game is rush rush rush, breaks the enjoyment in playing RTS game, and also avoids everything that game has to offer. I prefer sandbox style, improving army steadily, and using everything what game has to offer.

    • @ThePresentation010
      @ThePresentation010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's noob play.
      Skill is is a speed thing.
      You won't find high levels taking 2hrs to do things.
      Obviously high levels came from playing like noobs. Just got faster and better.

    • @milosstojanovic4623
      @milosstojanovic4623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePresentation010 nahh, nope.

  • @jorgeguerra12
    @jorgeguerra12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Japan lame comming in age chat

  • @watanabeyou3446
    @watanabeyou3446 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wtf with that macro