LET’S REFURB THIS PC-ENGINE AND TEACH IT SOME NEW TRICKS! | HDMI, ODE, SHELL, CAPS and MORE!
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- LET’S REFURB THIS PC-ENGINE AND TEACH IT SOME NEW TRICKS! | HDMI, ODE, SHELL, CAPS and MORE!
In today’s episode of Retro Renew, I’ll be refurbishing a tired and neglected PC-Engine home console. The PC-Engine was also known as the TurboGrafx-16 in North America and in my opinion is an under appreciated gem. Not only will I be refurbishing it, but I will also give it some modern features that will truly bring this console into the modern era!
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You have the best camera work and soldering skill combo of any TH-camr I've watched.
All Pc engine family are underrated, it pushed 8 bit consoles to their limit, It's a shame that later on the PC-FX was a failure.
Great video as always.
Thank you Rafael! Completely agree, very underrated indeed
NEC seriously dropped the ball by insisting all PCFX games should be devoted to anime series. It could have had some killer 2D shooters to rival the Saturn.
Tito, I love your videos. I watch them all. The production quality is superb
Thank you!!
I appreciate the effort and attention to detail getting the console inside and out to look factory fresh as possible.
Thank you!
It's not everyday that we see aftermarket shells being so good! The price is not unexpected tbh. Great mods, it's very satisfying to see the PC-Engine like this!
Superb Work, the shell may not be cheap but damn, it gave a second life to this poor PCE.
Thank you!!
That's my dream console. Growing up always wanted a TG1g but wasn't popular where I lived. I first played it via emulation in late 90's. Well done my friend. 🥳♥️🔥🍻
I was in the first wave of RGR shells and got one clear and one smoke. At first I, too, fought to thread the screw posts for external screws using both my iFixit GameBit and dedicated GameBit driver. I soon realized that you can thread the posts much more easily with the internal screws from the HuCard reader/slot. The thread pitch is the same so you can thread it with them, back them out, and effortlessly reuse the threads with the original GameBits (careful not to cut new threads!). The difference is that the internal screws are self-threading with a channel for plastic shavings to accumulate. When using them to cut the threads for the external screws I would occasionally back the screw out, remove the shavings, and continue a bit farther each time. My goal was to create perfectly straight threads without slipping even once and I accomplished it using this method.
FWIW, early model PC Engines have standard Philips or JIS screws instead of GameBit for the exterior. Some also have a different shape around the controller port and a different corresponding design on the controller plug. I believe NEC was the first to use GameBit screws as even the NES wasn’t using them back then. This is why GameBit screws were originally called “NEC External Line Head” screws.
Thank you for the insight and advice Emmett 👍 never though to use the internal screws. Very much appreciated 🙏😁
@@MachoNachoProductions Thank you. I hope it saves someone the frustration you and I went through our first times. :)
Pretty nice refurb! The PC Engine deserves all the attention it's been getting lately.
I don't know if this channel has covered cleaning up, and restoring worn or damaged original parts, but I suggest anyone to consider looking into it. It's a good way to reduce and reuse something that just needs a little love and elbow grease.
I love to see flashy new takes on old tech but I also love cleaning up a system back to it's former glory and giving new life to it's used parts. Just makes me feel good.
I really like how that console looks when everything is said and done! Like you mentioned, it is a hard price to justify especially since I'm not too awful familiar with the PC Engine or TurboGrfx 16, but I really like how this project turned out! Might keep that system under my radar whenever I'm looking at games to get.
Thank you RickyPon! So glad you enjoyed the video and the process of bringing it new life! It’s certainly a good system to have on your radar 😁
Some of the best editing work I've ever seen on the platform 👍
I know of the PC engine handheld, but wasn’t aware of the console - fascinating to see it come together. You’ve honestly become my favourite TH-camr for the quality and variety you’re putting out there, your hard work is massively appreciated!
My Cousin had the PC Engine/ Turbo grahix 16. I used to love going to his house and playing.
I love the production quality of your vids! WIsh you uploaded more than once per week. :D
Thursday nights are my favorites now, thanks for another brilliant video Tito!
PC engine is not on my radar normally, so I'm glad you brought it up again. The new shell on yours looks really slick!
Very top notch work. My only recommendation would be is when installing the screws in the bottom of the shell (or any new shell) screw in the screws a little bit, then back them out and do this several times. The reason it was hard to put the screws in is because there isn’t threads yet because it’s a new mold. You want to be extra careful when it comes to clear shells, cranking too hard could crack the plastic. Smoked plastic is much stronger than clear but still not as strong as regular plastic
$320 and they couldn't even put it in a shell that would match literally any of the PC Engine systems.
First video of yours I've seen, instant subscription ❤️
Thank you 🙏☺️
Naaachoooooooo!!!!! No joke, every Thursday, I get a craving for nachos after seeing the channel’s insignia.
Macho Nacho Productions, if you use a cue tip to clean the black parts of the button membranes, they will be more responsive, as the shiny buildup can make buttons less responsive.
Thanks for the advice! I’ll start to do that 👍
I did this for my Gameboy Color the other day and it fixed all of the buttons. It made such a difference!
@@MachoNachoProductions FYI the PC Engine controller uses the near exact same membranes as the Nintendo Famicom. They even have holes in the same positions to help line them up in the plastic housing. You do need to put a small notch into the D-pad membrane to help it clear one of the posts and the A & B buttons will have an extra loop to secure it to a post that exists in the NES but not the PC Engine. Otherwise, they function perfectly. The Famicom versions tend to be a little softer and the NES versions tend to be a little firmer. The only unfortunate part is the start and select buttons (Select Run) are too shallow to be used comfortably in the PC Engine controllers.
@@grafxgear cool! Thanks!
Super cool, great job bringing this console into the modern era, really breathes new life into it. :D
Thank you Jakoliath!!
Awesome breakdown!!! Already have this exact same setup but it was great watching your approach to it.
Thanks Ariel!
Nice! It’s a great setup and I’m enjoying it immensely👍
Ay-Yo, nice work!
I'm here to thank you, cuz your videos was inspiration for me last last few years.
Now my collection grew a bit bigger, and I'm refurbishing retro tech as Additional income.
And my customer brought exact same PC-Engine to refurb recently, haha.
these videos are oddly therapeutic for me
love your content :)
Thank you so much! So glad you enjoy the videos! Cheers!
I recently took a chance on buying a PC Engone. The seller claimed it didnt work, but after i plugged in my Saturn AV cable (it was modded to replace the RF port with a Saturn AV port) and plugged in my Turbo Everdrive......IT WORKS!
And I found out why the seller claimed it didnt work. The RF switch is still installed. If the RF switch is set to the low channel, the AV port doesn't work. Hiwever, when the RF switch is set to the high channel, then the AV port works.
And yes, it also has the jailbar fix.
$57? Not too bad for a "broken" PC Engine.
Great video! I really enjoyed it. I've noticed that some new aftermarket console shells don't have any threads cut. When you're screwing in the screw for the first time, you're screwing into raw plastic.
Yep, there are no threads in the posts. Most new aftermarket shells are like that, but this one certainly gave me the most trouble
One of my favorit Retro Console
Of course the CD you'd put in during your opening demo was Rondo of Blood. I recognize that label in an instant.
This is so clean!
Thanks!!
Love the videos brother! Would love to see videos on the japan only PSX a ps2/dvr combo.
The PSX is a beauty! Would love to add that to the collection! I’m sure one day 😁👍
the screws were tight on the new case because you were cutting the threads into the holes for the first time! if you ever open it back up make sure you back the screws into the threads properly or the plastic might get chewed up. love the channel!
Savage mission 💫🎮
I need this
Great review and mod work! Absolutely stunning. It should be noted that the Turbo Everdrive can indeed play Supergrafx roms when played on a Supergrafx console. :)
I’m guessing this is your most expensive build yet but so good. I just picked up my first pc engine as I’ve only had a couple of tg-16s.
'Respect' i still find in second hand store
That new shell is sick, love clear electronics
Same here!
I wish the TerraOnion thing matched your smoke black PC Engine shell haha
The PC Engine is one of those systems I've just not been able to get into much. I like Rondo of Blood and honestly don't care too much about other stuff on the system... though I do intend on playing the Ys IV fantranslation someday.
Anyway, great video as always!
Same here! Not sure why they went with blue. that’s actually another con I should have mentioned 😅
The previous version of this product was smoked and it looked much better in my opinion.
The blue is... unfortunate. But it does pair decently with the RGR clear shell rather than the smoked shell. I even made a few stickers to help tie them together better.
Love the pce. When I just got into emulation many years ago I wanted to play every castlevania so I got te meet this wonderful console. Having no money I had to wait for many years until I had the money to import one haha. One of the distinctive features I like is it’s white color, I know clear smoke looks cool but I’d miss the white. Anyhow I enjoyed this great video. Greetings!
Bought a PC Engine and a SHDS3 pro to enjoy some games I never was able to play when I was kid. Love having options and pairs nicely with the mega sg and super my and allows me to use my MiSTer for other systems (mainly sega cd & 32x at this time)
A friend of mine has a turbografx16 as close to new in box as you can get with it being open, his dad bought it new and rarely played it, I may have to recommend some of this to him!
great video and super interesting mods! these products aren't for me, but this was still a very enjoyable video
Glad you enjoyed it ☺️
Come on, you know you need 15 turquoise PC Engine controller inlays. 😜
The only con imo for the Super HD System Pro is the blue translucent shell, not sure why the chose that color as it doesn’t really fit with any of the color schemes, I think the smoke color shell like you had for the PCE would have looked better
Very nice clean up of the console, something you might be interested in is replacing the Voltage regulator with a new more efficient OKI-78SR-5/1.5-W36HE-C. According to "RMC-The Cave" it is a drop in replacement and produces much less heat to the point you don't even need the heat shield anymore.
Nice! Thank you for the heads up! I’ll definitely need to look into that! The PC engine does get quite warm 😅
@@MachoNachoProductions The OKI RMC used is known to add ripple. The R-78B5.0-1.5 is a better option but much more expensive. But any switching voltage regulator is going to add some amount of ripple. I have been trying to solve the problem electrically but perhaps substituting a few larger electrolytic to smooth the ripple.
I always wanted to do a full capacitor replacement video for my Turbo Duo and newly acquired CoreGrafx II, but just never get around to it... Gotta up my video edit skills too, another obstacle. Anyway, nicely put together! 👍❤️
The smoked case is stunning, I hope they make replacements for the PC Engine GT one day...
Awesome video as always. What kind of step down converter do you use for your Japanese consoles?
I actually bought a psu from retro game cave which is designed for the pc engine to be used on US outlets
I never owned a Turbo Graphix 16, but this refurbishment looks pretty awesome! I see you like your smokey black shells a lot since you had the same color for your Dreamcast mod awhile back
Yes! Smoked translucent is def one of my favs😁
Here's a nice tip.. The one thing which I found ultra annoying and im not sure why you didnt but it was the microSD card slot on the SHDS3P. Its so embedded in there that yo need some tweezers or something to eject that microSD Card. I used a micro SD-card extender to make the microSD extender a bit more accessible. I guess you could also dremel out a little bit of the shell to gain better access to the micro SD slot.
Sweet build Tito i love the pc engine almost as much as the original famicom. That shell is so cool. Im guessing the reason the four post screws were so difficult to turn is because its a brand spankin new shell and has never before been trapped. I was on the fence about getting the terra onion ssds3 but decided to spend the money on a retro tink 5xpro instead i dont regret it. But that ssds3 is still pretty nice maybe some day ill pick one up. As for the shell that thing is amazing im waiting impatiently for the clear super famicom shell from them
There is no “standard composite” on the white PCE. As I understand it, even composite is generated from the digital output when using the Super HD System³ Pro. The white PCE itself only has RF and, well, nothing that get composite from the EXT port would really qualify as “standard.” ;)
That’s a good point, I was using the ext to get composite. Rf would the the standard in this case
@@MachoNachoProductions Dojin Dance does make a upgrade board for the White RF PC Engine that adds this.
@@NoshAbroad I actually have two of his kits right here. I felt that his was the neatest-looking and better than I could do DIY if it was going to be visible through a clear shell. ;)
@@NoshAbroad I installed the saturn lead RGB. It's fairly simple and clean looking.
I still have and play my turbografx 16 and the handheld at least once a week. I love Bonks
Nice!
Result looks damn good, hope you keep the original shells btw, you should build a retrobrighting box for old yellowed stuff, it's really nice to see those get white again :)
I was all into retro bright, but it does not last. Some are starting to carefully paint the console with identical paint colors. This also protects the plastic from future oxidizing.
I've always liked how the Japanese PC engine looked compared to the turbo gfx.
When I did the ips mod on my GBA, I bought a new shell and all the screw holes were so tight, that it took me all day putting it back together.
I had to use the new screws and original ones bc either one would have it's head stripped from me trying to get it in.
I should have got a small drill bit and opened them up, but I kept thinking the next screw hole won't be as bad.
Nice video, it amazing how before watching this I’ve already been through the exact same journey. Even down to deciding to replace the jail bar caps just because. However, I decided to use a Core Grafx because I read the revised processor fixed some kind of audio distortion? I assume that’s for the sound chip generated audio, not CD audio. Personally can’t tell the difference… but the blue of the core grafx sticker matches the blue of the super SD system nicely.
The issue is the case has the cut-out for the RF socket of the white console, not the DIN socket of the core grafx. They do score a cut line for the DIN but I decided against cutting my expensive new case. I’m actually thinking of installing the small MD2 socket for the RGB modded output instead but there’s no rush. It would be really nice if they just made smoke core grafx cases!!!
Yes the PCE is easily emulated but for multiplayer, I’ve not had success with retro pi playing 5 player games. So options are Analogue’s fpga Duo, that will only support 4 controllers which is a deal breaker for me. I asked them if you can have 1 wired and 4 wireless and they said no? Then there’s the Konami mini’s but the hack for the mini doesn’t seem to have come to anything so you won’t be able to add all these great games and has anyone tried the mini usb multi tap with 5 x 8bitdo usb receivers, they fit without extenders… I have 5 official PCE ir controllers and they’re great (so long as you don’t need to control the TV while the console is on)
The Turbo Everdrive is absolutely worth keeping for use in the GT (or if you have an LT or Express).
Final point with the SD system 3, only the Pro version has the Supergrafx hardware on the fpga. This now leaves me thinking I should sell my Supergrafx but wouldn’t it would be strange to keep the games without having the system? Just so I can legally have the ROMs…
There are a few games where you can tell such as Doraemon: Meikyū Daisakusen. The thing is developers had already been working around this problem so it broke compatibility with older games. Ultimately NEC reverted the change for the later pc engines and Duo systems... So most games are made with the non revised chipset in mind.
Very cool. I feel like it could use some kind of dummy Hucard to complete the look.
That is a really nice kit, but for that price one could be well into the price of a MiSTer. Which, as most know at this point, can accurately replicate all of those PC Engine add-ons and so much more. I suppose it boils down to a matter of opinion on what you’d rather invest in to play all the great games in the PC Engine / CD / Supergrafx family. I digress, this was a great video, thanks for the upload!
Maybe the tightness might be caused by the threads cutting the plastic for the first time. Some shells aren't tapped yet.
I hope you took care of the orginal shell ^^
Gotta love the hipster commitment of cleaning with IPA (India Pale Ale).
KappaHD JK i know you meant isopropyl alcohol
I have the original PC Engine controller without turbo, but I haven't seen any replacement shells that don't have the turbo cutouts.
Did you know those controllers still have the turbo cut outs AND you can even replace two resistors and add an IC to add the turbo functionality? The PCB is already prepped for Turbo, just missing some of the parts.
The PC Engine was very popular in Japan, and stayed popular for many years. It just didn't go over well in the U.S.
if only someone made replacement shells for the tg16. i want a nice matching shell to the super hd system 3 for my tg16 when i get around to picking one up.
Cost cost cost I love it macho nacho keeping real since day one modding or console upgrading just be expensive in general. I can't wait till I make my super game boy advance.😊
I wouldn't have bothered reinstalling the RF shielding - that was only there to prevent interference with older analogue broadcast TVs and I think the translucent shell would've looked better without it.
I want to see a Watara Supervision get updated treatment that would be interesting!
The reason for the Turbografx-16's failure in America seems crystal clear to me. The bulk of its library was comprised of arcade games that didn't catch on here in the States and titles tailored to a Japanese audience. Plus you had Johnny Turbo, the failed mascot for the system's successor, the TurboDuo. There were other factors- the marketing that was so successful in a tiny island nation like Japan didn't work so well in a country many times its size- but in my view, it was the software which failed the TG16.
Anyway. This was a well documented and thorough mod, as I've come to expect from you. My only question is this... what happened to that TurboDuo clone that was planned for release a year ago? It was supposed to cost $250, but it just seemed to vanished after it was announced. It was supposed to play CD-ROMs and everything!
By Jess! Yes, I believe Analogue was going to make an FPGA based turbo duo which looked really cool! I think with the chip shortage and everything it got delayed😅. Would be nice if it came out next year 👍
I suppose we should look out for the Analogue Duo next year. The only recent thing Analogue said about it is it'll get the new operating system they're working on.
I think marketing more than anything. That and the Genesis as I and many others choose team Sega over the TG16 at the time. However, ultimately I think parents are to blame! If they just got their kids all the systems then everybody would win! ^_^
I wish there were more tutorials online discussing how to replace Electrolytics with Tantalums
It’s too bad Terraonion ditched the smoked shell for a blue one. Would have matched the replacement shell perfectly.
Btw, I think the screws were difficult to screw in because the shell screw posts are not threaded so you have to thread them yourself.
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Thank you dude 🙏!
Looks fantastic. Shame the terraonion doesn't match. But eh. Those retrogame restore shells are amazing. I have the Snes one and it's an eye catcher
IMO the clear shell pairs better with he TO SHDS3P. However it is possible to swap the shell of the SHDS3P with the SSDS3 and just print a back plate to match the IO of the SHDS3P. That would mean you need a SSDS3 to swap with so yeah... prohibitive, unless you already own an SSDS3.
Thank you Super Nicktendo! Yeah I would have loved it if they were the same color. Can’t wait to install my snes one!
Yeah I wish they stayed with the same color as the ssds3. Not sure why they changed it.
i love devils crush on the pc engine.such a great pinball game
Devils crush is definitely one of those addictive pinball games!
@@MachoNachoProductions never found a pc engine around here for sale so im using the pi zero 2 w
I think it's time to just get the Mahi.
When I got my Pro Tech kit, I picked up the Mahi as well out of reflex.
I’ll have to check that out. Looks beefier than the pro tech kit 👍
Maybe i'm weird but the filthier the console I bring back to life the more satisfying. That's one dirty unit.
you did not route the cable correctly in the controller. It is supposed to "S" around the pegs. The way you did it, it will be much easier to rip out the cord.
That makes sense, I wonder if mine wasn’t installed correctly from the factory or someone else opened it before me because I put it in how it was before moving it to the new shell
@@MachoNachoProductions if you send this whole project to me I'll fix it for you and I might even sent it back to you 😉
why you are changing the capacitors especially those 2 SMDs ?
A pink PC Engine sticker would make it perfect. Same pink as the controller.
True!
I did make a blue pc engine sticker (similar blue to the Core Grafx 2) but i could make a pink that matches the inlay.
was that lag i was detecting on the comparison vid? if the hdmi introduces lag, that's kind of a deal breaker. lag is pretty much the reason a guy seeks out og hardware these days. but yeah, your setup is pretty much the ideal in 2022. nice build
Its probably the timing on my part. I have to manually align the clips so I was probably a little off.
I don't think you need to put the RF Shield back on there. Just store it along with the old case shell.
honestly never heard of this console before haha
It’s worth checking out 👍
I wish they had made more games for the Turbografx 16 like Zombies At My Neighbors.Maybe somebody make a fan made game for the system.
Hey! Thought I'd let you know the timestamps in the video might be labeled incorrectly, as the part where you recap the system and install the new shell is labeled "How to install HDMI Kit"
Hi 👋 Wanted to know what the name of the game with the knight throwing the spears called? I remember I had it when I was a kid but don’t remember thanks and also awesome video 👍🙂
Makai mura
Saw the video, and was really nice, great job.
I was wondering if anyone could help me, I have a second pc engine, the core grafx II Europeans model, but it's not working, the console is powering on and at first I got sound but no picture will it via composite or rgb, then later I even lost the sound I would appreciate if anyone could help 😓😓
Tell me what I should look and test.
I would first test the voltage regulator. make sure it it putting out the proper voltage. there is also a little glass diode near the voltage regulator (it was replaced with a modern diode one in later models) Just make sure it isn't shortage. If all that checks out it is almost certainly the capacitors. All of those things can be replaced.
Can you play real HU Card games through HDMI with the Super HD System 3 Pro? Or does it only read from the SD card? Thanks!
Yes, you can 👍
Those "capacitor kits" are great business. Buy parts for 2$, sell for 4.5$
Whats a good site to buy imports from? I been drying to get me a PC engine
your best bet is buyee which will allow you to import from Japanese likes like yahoo auctions and mercari
I wanted a turbografx 16 so bad as a kid but I had gotten a Sega master system a genesis a nes and snes already plus the Sega cd and that other wort the 32x that attached to my genesis and a game gear and a Gameboy. So you see why I didn't get a turbographx 16. I forgot I got a portable segacd also and played it at school in my truck during lunch when I was 16. I did buy some myself as I was working since I was 12 but usually I only had to buy my extra games which by then was over 400
Yeah same here, the TG16 was always on the back burner since the Genesis and Snes were much more popular. It stinks how a lot of the stuff for TG16 is so expensive now 😔
Was a huge fan of the pc engine but decided to sell it and replace it with a pc engine mini. The prices were simply too outrageous for me NOT to sell it for money lol
I have one of these in an attic somewhere.
Nice! Replace those capacitors as soon as you can 😁
@@MachoNachoProductions I’ll dig it out and see what shape it’s in.
Can it use on PC ENGINE LT ? 🤔
Fantastic work, but the price of the new shell and output device is getting so expensive. I appreciate that these are exotic upgrades and mod parts, but the prices are getting way out of wack. Nevertheless, it was a fantastic video and very informative.
Awesome video...COST,COST,AND COST.....The mini's never got hacked....😭
Thank you!
Sooo Ashida wii portable when? We saw you dipping your toes on Discord, c'mon in, the waters great.
davvero mi piace il tuo lavoro e i tuoi video ma non so se becco solo i video con up grade che costano più di un Xbox serie s
mi farebbe veramente piacere se magari trattassi anche qualche mod economica che anche i comuni mortali si possono permettere 😅
Maybe it’s just being nitpicky but that SHDS3 saturated blue looks so dumb to me I don’t understand why they didn’t keep it smoke black. I just ended up buying a 2nd revision SSDS3 instead, just cause it looks better to me.. not to mention it was like $70 less 😅
Still looks super clean thru Tink4k
When is a see thru n64 shell going to come out?
I hope soon
This was an expensive video...I just ordered a FR-301 :)
Nice! You won’t regret it 👍
pce 4ever!!!! obey