based on first hand experience as a patient over the years , what they're saying is 100% true. the public should be outraging on the streets, instead they're letting politicians off the hook as they inevitably drive us deeper into crisis..
Most doctors, nurses and other specialist consultants are very loving caring to their patients and very committed to their work. But they don’t get that support and care from their own trust that is called NHS they work for. There was time when the NHS was real and people from other countries used to say to us that we are so lucky we have NHS in our country looking after even the poorest public. Not anymore. Now its a bad management, and the big dogs are getting richer on the same money that should have been spent where its needed the most. During the pandemic 😷 they didn’t even have sufficient protective equipment, as a result many doctors suffered and lost 😡 lives. In this day n age this is to shameful and not surprising if anyone wants to leave their jobs. Good luck to them.
Because they're tired of treating unvaccinated Karens who don't wear masks. If you don't wear a mask and unvaccinated, don't go to a doctor, go to a witch or dance around a fire
On shift recently I was apologising to a patient because I was just one person trying to look after 10 patients most of that day and I told this patient that they deserved a better level of care, that I as one person was not able to give to them alone.... it broke me down so much that I sat outside on a bench after my shift for 40 minutes to reflect on how bad the day was, before I could even get into my car to drive home. Patient care is what nhs stand for and this is slipped away along with the pandemic and staff illness and staff losses. Government keep sticking their heads into sand but doesn't stop it being a fact...they need to be pulled to account for their failings.
@@xsentfromuk8938 I agree and fully understand, it is so hard atm, I found myself alone looking after 25 patients on a number of occasions due to staff shortages, staff have had enough of being treated like dirt, spoken to like we are worth nothing and being taken for granted, clearly the government don't care enough to sort it out. It's ok for them and the big dogs to sit in their ivory towers shouting orders on their massive wages but they don't see what its really like to work on a ward. Especially on our poor wages, it has never been so financially difficult for us. Staff are struggling, and patient care is not what it should be, it is heart breaking.
I am one of the professional members of staff that left in 2021. Fed up with how my colleagues and myself were treated not only by the government but by managers and other members of staff. Bullying is a massive problem in the nhs, and I may love my job but can no longer handle it as it was affecting my mental health. Staff leaving are not being replaced and creating more stress and strain on the members of staff left, having to work extra shifts and hours to make sure patients are fully cared for.
@@cliffsofmoher4220 Once qualified through the NHS there's a lot of Doctors that leave for better place, before they settle. There's countries all over the world that'll take a qualified Doctor, Brexit or not.
@@cliffsofmoher4220 There are other countries who would be very happy to have doctors, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, to name a few... The only country that doesnt seem to understand the value of doctors and nurses is the UK.
Yes same last time I was 12 hr day shift and there was just 4 or 5 of us on ward it’s too short staffed I think anyone working in nhs knows how hard it is right now plus working with colleagues who are too depressed and moody is hard to work with
@@Flower-wz9il worked the wards Saturday, I’m on a bank, walked in to find one health care, which was me, an no nurses to take over from the night staff.
I am a firm believer it's been a deliberate running down of our health care system to allow in more of the private sector. If the waiting lists are far too big unfortunately 'they will have no choice' and I think most people will believe that. Having forgot the mindset that started it.... Profit means too much now 🙄 and both main political party's were hinting at this.... Without an actual alternative it will keep degrading.
Great reportage. The NHS is being gutted behind the scenes and has been for years. We really need to bring this into wider attention and hold our political establishment to account. Otherwise, we may well lose the national treasure that is our NHS. A concerned UK citizen.
Little will improve, until we as a society acknowledge that more taxes are needed to fund the NHS for it to meet its growing challenges like people living longer, more expensive treatments...etc.
NHS is paying their staff on a very low paying scale and in the meantime they will pay 3 times more to agency staffs....thats how they treat their permanent staffs
There are nothing called permanent, we are just a number, in other word we are prostituted but some get paid more (Agency) and other get paid less (So called Permanent). Agency staff chosen to play this game right while permanent staff are playing safe.
I’m an ex-NHS nurse who is now full-time agency. I hated my time as a full-time permanent member of staff due to lack of support whilst working on a dangerously understaffed ward. I literally experienced kidney pains from dehydration whilst encouraging patients to increase their oral intake!
I am an ICU nurse and also leaving bedside. Covid measures exacerbated an already vulnerable equilibrium. Healthcare has always been underappreciated but having to work in plastic with a mask digging into your face, taking care of 150kg patients, upping the work load by 50 or 100% and many more things was the final blow for me and many more. This work doesnt take care of people caring for people. No biggie though, I am ready to do something else. the Netherlands
Most of the work done by nurses in NHS , doctors and specialists walking up and down the unit s and having their tea and coffee , i was in chelsea hospital for 10 days in last September i saw what is happening there , actually doctors and specialists need to 🤐🤐🤐
wish you all the best on your new journey. you deserve this new break and really soak in the time you have to spend with loved ones and remember you can always show care outside the hospitals which I'm sure you know already. Good luck UK xx
@@TheVikicoco oh if that was happening there it is the same everywhere is it. Don’t think you appreciate the exhaustion that goes with wearing full PPE for over 2 years. Selfish.
As a UK doctor I’m also leaving hospital life! Minimal pay, constantly understaffed doing more than 2 peoples job load, abused by managers who don’t care, It’s just not worth giving up my own life for anymore
Guessing the other doctors were hiding on a golf course and left you to do all the work as from what I recall doctors are barely seeing anyone and that’s still the case now ! Is this true ? And just to add I don’t blame you for leaving a corrupt organisation
@@stequality not seeing anyone? That's just lies fed to the public to try and privatise the NHS. Also if you work in a hospital how do u not see patients? Maybe as a GP when it was a pandemic. Don't believe everything you read online
@@stequality do you think that 1) doctors get paid like CEOs to casually have golfing weekends? 2) there are enough doctors? and 3) doctors have been avoiding work for the past few years (including covid) to leave the work to a small number of doctors? You seem to have quite a naive view of NHS staff in general.
My cousin is a nurse in the NHS specialises in Resuscitating babies in maternity care. When her brother my cousin died last November they only give her one day off for the funeral compassionate leave. Is it any wonder they are leaving? Then there was the so called pay rise which works out to be a pay cut.
I worked for the nhs for 44 years . I work in rehabilitation in the community . Staff will leave & the trust would not replace them . Staff are expected to do over time to cover . I refuse & was told I’m not a team player . I’m now 61years old & have done more then my fare share of being a team player over the years . The worst thing about it you get no support from your manager . If you go of sick there no one cares . They only want to know when your fit to return to work . I work in a environment that deliver care . But no one cares for the nurses .
@@irenedavo3768 unfortunately so I meen my cousin went down with a heart attack and my cousin who works in the nhs only got one poxy day off and was back in it was a disgrace. I’m from Ireland my cousins are brummies I traveled over and was disgusted at how she was basically only given the day of the funerals off.
Spot on. All they have now running the hospitals are paper shufflers and he’ll bent on hitting targets. Once that’s gone you won’t be able to afford to be sick. Added to that, people coming into the country on an NHS holiday. Getting treatments then not paying as they should. It all adds up.
@@marlenecampbell1204 that's not totally a bad thing years of medical school and healing the sick does not make you an expert in procurement and other management tasks
Most of the medical students are less talented, brain damaged by their studies. Imagine this, if you choose to get in nhs without reading all posts or news every year blasting about nhs, you are pretty retarded. There are many ways to rescue life, being medical servants are not the only way.
Hospitals and health services immediately abandoned its staff and didn't stand up gor the healthcare workers ,they were willing to get rid of the workers if no jab,no questions asked just do as the government says.
@Kizito Kanu ditto. I worked through it all under great stress in radiology imaging dept. The final straw was the stress of being forced to have a vaccine. That stress was too much and broke me so that I am now off on sick leave. Complete idiots.
It's a goal of the Tories to dismantle the NHS for their backers to be able to gain more money from a privatized health care system, so no wonder they under fund it and leave condition sufficiently bad for the best people to leave
@@ine3653 I still live in a world where there are politicians that aren't in politics to fill their own pockets and/or those of their friends. The Tories don't.
Our work is important because it saves lives but you don't pay us accordingly. Just because we can save lives doesn't mean you can rob us of a decent lives for ourselves. The work life balance of healthcare workers are terrible. Do you still wonder why we quit. We can't even go on strike because "we are so important".
Physical, Racist abuse, Lack of Pay, Not appreciated, and becoming asian kinda politics where you give favouritism. The higher staff taking advantage from minor staff so the work load chasing them away.
I work in the NHS - that’s so true! We call it the ‘favouritism for the click’. Significant numbers of nursing staff, rub shoulders with management and get ‘protection’ easy work loads and extra support. In the mean time… those with integrity, who try to avoid politics and focus on patient care. Are rewarded with higher patient, nurse ratio, very poorly patients, or patients very confused, or high BMI requiring enhanced care, but without the staff to manage them. When iv requested support, I’m told by management/matron there are no staff. When I walk back to my bay empty handed again… I walk past two bay, with extra staff sat around chatting, because their bays are filled with patients with non of the above. It’s the same story all over the NHS The above situation puts so much every day pressure on good NHS people.. that we eventually just can’t carry on. Staff sitting pretty isn’t really the problem it’s incompetent management.
I work for the NHS as a biomedical scientist. I’m contemplating leaving because I’ve been offered double the salary in the private sector and for less responsibility
@@RealIllumin I'm clearly working at the wrong trust as I'm having no such dance routines..... 🙃 besides wouldn't have the energy for all singing and dancing...
@@RealIllumin To right that's why I joined to care and support people sadly that may be the reason I leave as care and support slipping away due to staff losses and higher turn over of patients all on a decreasing work force.. patients deserve better care and so do staff trying to do their jobs safely...
Like I always say, any job in the UK that massively recruit workers from Africa and other poor countries donnot have a good atmosphere and doesn’t pay well. If they do why don’t the British do it themselves.
Because there are many British who think they are entitled to a better job and simply working in health care is below their standards. These type of people more than likely have no education or qualifications and think they deserve better just because they see others working in better jobs.
As an HCA for the NHS I received £100 one month only as a thank you. I do believe my life and my life's family is worth more than that after all we been an going through and they keep asking more and more from us. I am so sorry but I don't have much left and if I keep doing it its because of pure necessity of the patients that are suffering in an hospital bed needing treatment.
I didnt even get that, i got a box with a tiny smelly candle, a packet coffee, a bar of chocolate and some biscuits. A charity gave a few grand to my hospital to go directly to staff, it was supposed to be a couple of hundred per person. The hospital took the money, then told us that we werent allowed cash gifts as it went against policy, we were offered vouchers, they never arrived, we were then offered hoodies with rainbows on, they never arrived for me to throw back at them. We got a badge. I verbally threw it back at them.
We were paid £500 bonuses, minus tax and NI off course, for doing 13 shifts bank or 5 extra shifts for permanent staff in two weeks periods in December and January. The month that I received that bonuses with all this extra shifts done I felt that with this payment I can finally breath, no more overdraft 😆 Too be honest it's sad how badly the cost of living and size of your salary affects your life. Everyone knows that working for someone else will not make you rich, but working and being afraid to switch on heating coz how knows how much they will charge you...? I don't believe that people in the government want to help anybody other than themselves. And if they hear criticism from time to time for their actions they know it's just a price for ambitions. Will revolution start?
You got £100 ? As a NHS HCA working all through covid pandemic 48H every week, I got a plastic Christmas tree decoration with NHS written on it 😂😂 Shows you how much management love us! Also leaving
Visiting UK from Sweden I had the misfortune to get sick and naturally I went to a hospital. Having all the simptoms of a heart attack I was completely ignored and seen by a doctor after 9 HOURS. The emergency room was full of sick people, I've seen one man collapse and no nurse was willing to help him I've seen nurses screaming at pacients, saying they are busy when in fact they were laughing and talking about "last night" It was horrible between the filthy environment and the lack of emphathy from nurses or doctors, I felt s if I was in a third world country. I had to go through private care spending a small fortune just so I can get the services I get in Sweden and not even the private care rises up to our level of public care. All my English friends complain about the NHS and I know understand why.
Like most sectors, it depends where you go. I trust you would agree that one experience being generalised may be an inaccurate representation of the whole system?
As a student nurse sadly the only thing we can do half the time is chat to other staff because there is no social life outside of work, and when you are trying to treat patients you can't because you're waiting for all the other professionals to actually do their job (properly), patients asking when they'll be seen but the doctors go round the whole hospital and all wards so we wait for them. We are constantly waiting on others so we can finally do our job and even then it takes hours
Aura berglund what city was you in? I'm mean the are a lot going on with covid a lot of strees. They are a lot country's wih bad health care systems to. Political. .
You’ll see a very little about this in UK media. I wish doctors could raise their salary by themselves like the lorry drivers did, asking £80k or more.
In private industry things are based off of supply and demand. More demand for doctors with no increase in supply… and they get paid more a lot more. However in socialism the government in its incompetence controls the means of production, they set the cost and the pay supply and demand be dammed. But it’s doesn’t work. Hence the failure/great shortcomings of the nhs.
It's terrible now the NHS!. There are doctors who are ashamed to say it, but the NHS is collapsed!. It's very scary because most of the time there is at least 8hrs wait! For an ambulance, and then only 2 doctors, for so many people!.. Come on you government!. Please!. WHAT ABOUT US!. As I've always said. God wants us to help each other!. It is the worst feeling ever is when your really ill or a family member is ill and needs urgent care, and have to wait so long for an ambulance!. There are about 10+ ambulances outside our local hospital waiting for hours to get the patients into the emergency room. The poor mother's, fathers, crying because they are so worried about their children, and waiting all night to be seen!. It's 💔💔💔. SOMEONE! needs to change this. I 🙏🙏🙏 for our future. WE NEED A GOVERNMENT WHO CAN CHANGE THIS AND NOT JUST SAY TYEY WILL!. IT'S TERRIBLE!. What kind of people would let so many people suffer?. TELL ME, WHO EVER MAKES THESE DECISIONS, WOUOD YOU EVER EXPECT TO WAIT 8 HOURS TO RECEIVE URGENT CARE?. THE ANSWER IS NO isn't it?. And you may think? , as we all do at times, oh that won't happen to me..., and maybe it won't, and I do pray it doesn't, just as I pray you would pray it doesnt happen to us 🙏🙏. Anyhow, I believe one day when our lives are done here we will be judged. The weighing of the heart❤. God bless us all. Amen 🙏
problem is most will leave become agency staff then be hired by the NHS to fill the gap that they left at twice the cost the whole NHS system is corrupt but its a sacred cow so no one can touch it
@@stequality Hey, that's a fair question:) it's a combination of endless red tape, understaffing, underpaying, abusive patients and their relatives. I love medicine and helping people. But my (and many others') mental health is suffering. It's not worth it anymore.
@@w04andia no it is not worth it I think your doing the right thing, patients don’t help when they care cruel swines well they reap what they sow ! Also the nhs was happy to get rid of you anyway if you didn’t take the poison jab so yes find another establishment that will appreciate your talents
how many left bcs politicians decided to mandate the vaccine, caused the stress and irreversible damage to reputation of the unvaxed in nhs, just to stop that mandate month before it was due? i almost left myself bcs of it, and will leave as soon as I fin the alternative
Healing to Vocalise, however NHS employees need to demand tax relieve for NHS employees ( 40% + pay deductables and real inflation at 15% ) or those 100,000 + nurses/doctors whom have been recruited from the Philippines/ India via the middle east will return to the good life in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar
I have been on the waiting list for for years now. I have been out sourcing my treatment. The people who are responsible should be punished before it gets worse
@@mypointofview1111 when you get something ‘free’ and it’s distributed and managed by the government it is almost always doomed to fail. The nhs/socialized medicine is no different
On a band 2 salary I can NOT afford private health care.... if I was more financially viable I would go private in a blink... think that sums up access to services....
@@mypointofview1111 Yes you would get quicker access. I know this to be a fact as I've paid for private access during the pandemic ..I am saying I can not pay monthly payments out of a pittance wage . I also know that paying for private diagnostics enables you to get scans within 7 to 10 days. Won't access that time frame waiting on nhs....in fact at height of pandemic I waited 5 days to access going private.
The things that dentist, nurses and doctors have done to people is outrageous and I can speak for myself when it comes to I'll treatment from medical workers.
@@copemusicpromotionsdazreev3299 twts like you are why i left i can walk on by if you need help dying on the street ... lol is legend ashley your boyfried
I'm a HCA in mental health and most wards are short staffed daily! Bank staff have as well as permanent staff have left. I don't blame them, we are working like slaves what with all the tax we pay. People womder why I work there but I tell them I'll leave soon.
NHS, brilliant. Civilians DO APPRECIATE NHS. Politicians treat them like they are expendable & invincible without Lives of their own. NHS pay should equal the pay given to Military & Police. NHS should be afforded safe working Environment. ❤️
I remember in March 2020 feeling so unwell and no medication could help me and didn't even know exactly what it was; I contacted my ward manager (such an amazing manager) but unfortunately couldn't help because there was no equipment such as PEP available at the time. We worked overtime's not because wanted too but needed to support our lovely team under terrible and dangerous conditions therefore was constantly physically and mentally burnout and after 2+ years still feel the fatigue. Most NHS staff believe British government/management failed and still failing to deliver relevant support to its staff; staff are more vulnerable within NHS than anybody. After all there weren't increment and NHS employees MUST do overtime to avoid being short of cash each month. Applauses by the British public couldn't put food on our tables... I still feel that the British government could have at least suspend for 1 year all NHS employees/civil servantes council tax as gesture of good will, thanking and apologise for all the damage caused as many still traumatised after what we went through in the hands of the NHS.
Politicians are only interested in giving private companies money to manage healthcare; which is not their priority. Too many managers and paperwork is also taking time from actual patient care. Something must be done.
Nurses are struggling even more. I would love to see a piece on them. They have been the real heroes through all this, all the risk but without the big pay of these physicians.
Bullying, bullying is why everyone leaves the NHS. Lazy staff push their job off onto lower staff and bully them when they ask any type of questions, being a student asking questions is part of the contract for you to learn, but you dare ask a question !!!! Its a vile institution to be in, when you go to the people who are supposed to support you they bully you into silence and even when the lawyers apologise to you the NURSES and UNI still enforce punishment on you because how dare you do it right!!!! The main issue that can be solved and help all immidiatley is to stop the bullying (which is 90% female nurses)
Did she say, we need to find why the health workers are leaving the job that they LOVE??! 😂 To start with, if they loved their job, they'd hardly leave. I work for the NHS. Its ok, I'm grateful for a steady job, but I definitely don't love it. And I don't think I know anybody that does. It's run by people that have different realities to people with common sense. It's organised to attribute blame. It's full of ridiculous pointless paperwork (they have a form for opening a window 😂) We have autistic patient that doesn't understand healthy eating. Eats all the sweets, chocolate, crisps, and fizzy pop he wants. I mean that's the fault also of the people that took care of him before us (special needs people now seem to get indulged like spoilt children) but this is THE HEALTH service! It's such BS. Buuut, I prefer it to a warehouse or factory 😉
So let me get this straight. You are using your singular experience to negate the feelings of other people? "If they loved their job, they'd hardly leave". They are not leaving medicine, they are leaving a poor healthcare system. I
Jallow. When I lived in the UK, I often felt that the health service should be run by the Germans, Norwegians or mainland Europeans, or the Chinese... otherwise it will just get worse. Cut the pay of management , make management work at least one day helping patients and cleaning the hospital wards or find other jobs that pay better.
NHS must review its policies which gives the British public so much power and less protective of the hard working healthcare workers who gets physically and verbally abused by the patients who are receiving free care.
@holcroft1969 That's what they are doing, and the British public is suffering because they are leaving as you suggest. If the public cared about having doctors and nurses your country would not vote for the party killing the NHS every general election
@holcroft1969 Neither you nor your countrymen deserve the NHS as you don't know what you have that so many others don't. If you cared, you would have protested with junior doctors or nurses rather than saying they can leave their jobs if they don't like it, and then complaining that you can't see doctors when you want or get an ambulance like an imbecile who can't see beyond his own nose. You had the brain drain of Brexit, and now doctors are moving to Australia and getting paid twice the amount of money which is closer to the market average, and have half the workload because the government cares more about patient safety and keeping skill. Enjoy your self inflicted slow decline.
Free? If it's "free" I would like to know where my monthly "National Insurance" contributions - taken straight out of my wages - are going! Which I have paid into for 35 year and have hardly ever made used of. Freee, Lmao!
The health service needs to be operated both by state and private similarly to France, the nhs wastes money with private outsourcing to reduce lists. Divide it up, this wouldn't happen. I've just left nhs it has no future as it stands.
The NHS formed partnership with Quintiles a pharma company in 2004. Private, Public Parnership is fascism. The 2004 Regulation The Medicine for Human Use (Clinical Trials) authorised to conduct clinical trials are: doctors, nurses, pharmacists, dentists, opticians, and other medical professionals. In Cameron govt invited the world to 'come to UK for your life science research, we have more than 60million NHS patients' offered the British people as human guinea pigs/rats. In 1988, an employee of -Roschild-Bank-Oliver-Letwin-and-John-Redwood-MP- wrote a pamphlet about the 'Privatisation of the NHS.' The NHS slowly worsening health care service in order to introduce private companies. The bed blocking cost £820million in one year could be alleviate by increasing the number of Community Hospitals (about 10-beds) but instead Community Hospitals were closed down. Simon Steven who used to work in US Health Insurance provider run the NHS England. His previous employer US Health Insurance provider is going to run the NHS Health Insurance. Tony Blair hired him to run the NHS England ...very convenient! The campaign to destroy public trust and confidence in the NHS driving patients towards private healthcare. There was the de-skilling of junior doctors cause medical errors and complications - to reduce wage budget. In the US this is the 3rd cause of deaths. NHS as a public service provide healthcare based on needs not the ability to pay. So the Americanisation of the NHS is a bad idea. The Bill already passed the House of Common with the help of traitors MPs. It is now in the House of Lords I hope it is still there. The House of Lords cannot stop the bill from passing but it can stop the bill by returning it back to the House of Commons for the MP's to reconsider. The American style pay-to-play healthcare system don't work in the US which is shambolic... it puts profit above the patients interests. There is no positive reasons why NHS has to adopt this system. But been push by the lobbyist corporate interest, the interest of traitors British politicians who will have financial rewards.
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians, this saying comes to mind when I think of the NHS. The managers cannot manage properly. The system needs changing.
its getting daft, I did six 12 hour shifts last week so the service could run properly and try to stop my staff getting too stressed. last person I sent to AE waited for 30 hours in AE to get on a ward and don't forget the government's "we can't increase wages just due to recession" we'll everyone else is, you can earn more in supermarkets and delivering parcels.
speak with the ED doctors, the reason why staffs are leaving because rhe NHS is broken. PRIMARY health is totally broken, GPs kept sending patients to Emergency even if they are not emergency… majority are phone consultations, thats why majority are misdiagnosed and gets worse in time. Its not about Covid its about how primary care is being managed.
Gp surgeries are booking appointments a Month later, only to say, go to a pharmacy and buy paracetamol. And a pharmacy isn't even licenced to sell paracetamol to some people, eg, pregnant, without a prescription first.
@@nettlesid yes… and they are still getting higher pay than the ED doctors who looks after their patients. Hospitals are over crowded, staffs are leaving becuase if this.
@holcroft1969 seeing 60-80 patients a day - over twice the recommended safe level , over 12 h with no breaks . Working 60 h per week ….. lazy ? That doesn’t sound lazy to me
When I started as a hospital porter the work was intense low pay but we. All loved it cuz we worked as a team then the managers who sit on there but overloaded everyone and I have it
Thank goodness for honesty at long last! Most drs sorry to say are mere representatives for the pharmaceutical industry. What happened to do no harm or really follow the science rather than the money? I’ve been a care worker for 40plus years and I’ve never seen so much waste of money in the nhs in all that time. Makes my very sad to see the decline.
We actually have to prioritise the welfare and happiness of the staff than patients…… because a knackered workforce cannot look after sick people…. they must be well rested and well balanced
This is why I hardly go to NHS. I hear health workers over stressed all the time. Haven't used the service in the last 5yrs. I get sick i just buy an OTC meds and move on
I quit as a hospital volunteer after 21 years because I saw a lot of healthcare workers here in the US not following any safety protocols. (these were with Covid rooms) These staff were given PPE and that PPE equipment just sat on a equipment cart in the storage room or precautions carts, unused. I blew my whistle to the workers, to the supervisors, to the volunteer services, to the hospital unanimously on the phone and to the local newspaper. I now volunteer at a National Museum that follows more safety protocols than at the hospital. It was so stressful seeing newborns being exposed to Covid 19 unnecessarily and only two nurses that I knew followed the proper protocols. Those not following protocols were nurses, supply workers, housekeeping, sharp container pick-up, nutrition workers and the one that gutted me was the medical students that were doing their clinicals. America has problems and this was a top 100 hospital.
Disgusting brainwashed snitch is what you are. Your type are the lowest of the lowest. Let people be sick and get natural immunity moron. People that are vulnerable shouldn't be in public in the first place.
I can personally say I know not one person who would intentionally not wear PPE with a confirm infectious patient. We have been so poorly treated and forced to take on so many patients that I have not taken breaks, I have not had the chance to pee, I have had double or triple the amount of work knowing that no backup will come when a patient coded or worse. Patients were being triage in rooms with the same diagnosis and comorbidity, I'm sure I missed changing my PPE and in an emergency to save someone's life. Unfortunate but even when hospitals have equipment I can guarantee you 90% of them are under staffed, and we all know it.
NHS is too overcrowded , its so difficult to even get an appointment !! This is the whole problem with Socialism , you provide something for free and gradually the quality of it decreases !!
Stupid viewpoint. There’s no better system nor a more moral one. The key is to fund it better. Furthermore, the quality of healthcare offered to citizens is by and large, world class. I should know, I’ve been saved by the NHS from lymphoma and I now work on the front lines. There are very few better healthcare systems. But pay and conditions for staff need to improve
The issue is where is all the money going. Nhs get a huge chunk of the taxpayers money but how is it managed. During 2020/2021 look at all the money wasted on rainbow zebra crossings and nonsense. I think it's time people had the choice to opt in or opt out of the NHS/private healthcare.
“We’re only human “ this is a real cry from the heart . The government really needs to stop playing the ostrich and brace up to the real problems that have been accentuated and highlighted by the pandemic. It is commendable that doctors rather than grin and bear it as we have done for decades, are beginning to call these anomalies out. Advocating for ourselves , insisting on a better , safer way to work , as well as prioritising mental health through resilience is the way forward I propose in my new book Doctors Are Human Too, how to save lives without losing yours , resilience tools for doctors by Dr Patricia Ngene
Some of them working in the NHS should never be allowed anywhere near vulnerable adults and children. But I think these will be the ones who will stay in the NHS, and all the good ones will leave.
@@stequality It's a toxic, narcissistic, self-serving institution and as with all narcissistic relationships, it always ends badly for the innocent party. They don't care whose lives they ruin. In their sick mind, the end justifies the means.
UK doesn't need to worry. The number of nurses in India is above the total population of entire UK. Indian nurses love to come in a western country like UK than coming in GCC. Monthly salary of a nurse working 6 days per week in India is between 50 pounds & 100 pounds. But in UK it is 2000 pounds as starting (Note : 3-4 days work only in week). Rishi Sunak knows it well. The only way to overcome NHS crisis is to reduce the OET cut off. A lot of my nursing friends are dreaming to come in UK. UK give good family benefits also. If UK reduce the cut off of OET again, they can overcome the NHS crisis. very easily.
Because of the tories plain and simple. England dyou think you have it bad us Scots have nearly nothing up here only reason we have anything is because of the snp who are limited in their power.
I think I am on the hook, as I have already started to use private care. I just can’t afford waiting one to two months time to check a possible heart attack.
My experience as a volunteer at our local hospital made me hate yes literally hate health care workers. I was delivering food trays each food tray has a form that will indicate whether or not the person receiving the tray needs assistance to be fed or not the note said assist I spoke to the nurse nurse took the note threw it away said she can do it herself don't believe me while this woman is 97 years old so I fed her. Said good bye put my apron on the chair n walked out
Yes, as a visitor in hospitals over the years, several elderly people, with strokes etc, unable to see well, hold cutlery were left to feed themselves, while nurses were chatting amongst themselves, you can train nurses, doctors, but kindness, compassion cannot be taught, and it is now sadly lacking in the NHS.
@@kayjones8908 such wise and beyond true words. The look the nurse gave me when I chose to feed the elderly woman was mean. Like if looks could kill, I'd of died right there. Before I finished the woman looked at me and said "this was nice. its been a while since I've had a visitor". Telling me nobody sees her. Broke my heart.
Yes I've seen it myself when I was in hospital for 10 days years ago. On my ward their was only 2 genuine nurses, the rest couldn't be bothered, just sat behind their desk talking!
After 30 years, I have decided to leave. The insidious privatisation and gaslighting of staff and patients is sickening, literally. I’m sorry NHS. I love you but this is no life.
Yes mandates across nhs and those across care sector that sacked staff have reinforced to all staff that we all replaceable as workers and we was all shown how much we not valued from higher up the chain.... doesn't do staff moral any good ..... had better morale at the hight of pandemic but even that has gone with the ever depleted staff levels.. reason patients bed blocking is because care across sectors collapsed.... on to few staff and not sustainable any longer... this is the result of mandates....
Only solution is - people stop falling sick. Considering most people suffer from chronic diseases resulting from poor lifestyle decisions,it's time folks take responsibility for their own health. The hospitals are filled with conditions resulting from neglected issues.
Then recruit many of our Filipino nurses from the Philippines. We have many nurses in Iloilo City, Cebu City, Davao City, Makati City, Bacolod City all cities are in the Philippines and there are many of our nurses are willing to go to the United Kingdom if ever there is a chance. Maybe the United Kingdom can send some recruitment officials to the Philippines to recruit our nurses. Please do. Please do.
govt spends on hiring expensive managers to manage managers that instead of hiring more and more permanent staff waste money on hiring non permanent expensive locum. staff
But this started with Tony Blair and his PFI programs where his private sector buddies were lending money to the NHS hospitals to upgrade and extend their buildings. However they were charging much more than high street banks. They were insisting on being awarded other contracts at inflated rates like catering, security, maintenance, laundry etc. I remember the farce of it costing 60 pounds to change a light bulb. So much money was stripped out of patient care to fund these massive mortgages at inflated rates plus the associated inflated contracts. It’s not been 25 years yet. So when labour get confused as to how given the same levels of funding as many other western countries it fails to deliver in a similar way. Hello, look at the structural debt. The hidden national debt as it is underwritten by the taxpayer. The hidden debt that would make the nations debt to gdp ratio look very bad that no one talks about it. So bad that it might impact the countries credit rating. They reduced the numbers of beds massively, at the time they talked about not needing the beds as post op care had improved. Since then the population has gotten older and sicker and gone up by 6 million in the last 12 years. Also the real reason the beds had to be cut was they could afford to keep them open and pay the PFI partners their cut. So over the last decade and more the wages of doctors and nurses has been suppressed to pay for this structural debt. Consequently the doctors and nurses aren’t very happy and don’t want to work for low wages. Some junior doctors are earning less than tube drivers even with a decade of training under their belts. With the cost of living skyrocketing people can’t afford to stay in these jobs.
All health and social care system is terrific underpaid and unrespected. Isn't there enough specialists and freshmen because education is very expensive. We can't live from claps instead salary...
Own life own decisions All healthcare will leave and risk to tragedy as nurses doctors leave then normal volunteers will be left to do operations at low learning pocket money
based on first hand experience as a patient over the years , what they're saying is 100% true. the public should be outraging on the streets, instead they're letting politicians off the hook as they inevitably drive us deeper into crisis..
Most doctors, nurses and other specialist consultants are very loving caring to their patients and very committed to their work.
But they don’t get that support and care from their own trust that is called NHS they work for.
There was time when the NHS was real and people from other countries used to say to us that we are so lucky we have NHS in our country looking after even the poorest public. Not anymore.
Now its a bad management, and the big dogs are getting richer on the same money that should have been spent where its needed the most.
During the pandemic 😷 they didn’t even have sufficient protective equipment, as a result many doctors suffered and lost 😡 lives.
In this day n age this is to shameful and not surprising if anyone wants to leave their jobs. Good luck to them.
Because they're tired of treating unvaccinated Karens who don't wear masks. If you don't wear a mask and unvaccinated, don't go to a doctor, go to a witch or dance around a fire
the public could have helped but as alway public have not a backbone
On shift recently I was apologising to a patient because I was just one person trying to look after 10 patients most of that day and I told this patient that they deserved a better level of care, that I as one person was not able to give to them alone.... it broke me down so much that I sat outside on a bench after my shift for 40 minutes to reflect on how bad the day was, before I could even get into my car to drive home. Patient care is what nhs stand for and this is slipped away along with the pandemic and staff illness and staff losses. Government keep sticking their heads into sand but doesn't stop it being a fact...they need to be pulled to account for their failings.
@@xsentfromuk8938 I agree and fully understand, it is so hard atm, I found myself alone looking after 25 patients on a number of occasions due to staff shortages, staff have had enough of being treated like dirt, spoken to like we are worth nothing and being taken for granted, clearly the government don't care enough to sort it out. It's ok for them and the big dogs to sit in their ivory towers shouting orders on their massive wages but they don't see what its really like to work on a ward. Especially on our poor wages, it has never been so financially difficult for us. Staff are struggling, and patient care is not what it should be, it is heart breaking.
I am one of the professional members of staff that left in 2021. Fed up with how my colleagues and myself were treated not only by the government but by managers and other members of staff.
Bullying is a massive problem in the nhs, and I may love my job but can no longer handle it as it was affecting my mental health.
Staff leaving are not being replaced and creating more stress and strain on the members of staff left, having to work extra shifts and hours to make sure patients are fully cared for.
South Indian will take over your role it doesn't affect NHS . They will find employees from outside the country
@TheXRP Dog really?
@@Salmakhan-lj5jt brain drain south India what a shame 😪...
I left in 2020 due to bullying and racism from colleagues in the NHS. Such a toxic work environment.
@@vans4lyf2013 agree its an hostile environment for BAME
Pitty this conversation couldn't be had on main stream television in the UK
Why not?
@@prancer1803 the media aren’t allowed to show how bad it is in case it affects public perception of the conservative government
Sadly the British public will one day wake up and we'll recognise that the NHS is gone.
Its already gone... There's blood stains on the blue tie worn by the scummiest of parties (Tory), don't get me wrong Labour isn't any better.
It’s been gone a long time
How can the doctors leave now because UK is no longer part is EU so which means they can no longer live and work abroad
@@cliffsofmoher4220 Once qualified through the NHS there's a lot of Doctors that leave for better place, before they settle. There's countries all over the world that'll take a qualified Doctor, Brexit or not.
@@cliffsofmoher4220 There are other countries who would be very happy to have doctors, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, to name a few... The only country that doesnt seem to understand the value of doctors and nurses is the UK.
I am a health care worker for the NHS, it is seriously understaffed; I dont think people realise just how understaffed it is.
Explain
Yes same last time I was 12 hr day shift and there was just 4 or 5 of us on ward it’s too short staffed I think anyone working in nhs knows how hard it is right now plus working with colleagues who are too depressed and moody is hard to work with
@@Flower-wz9il worked the wards Saturday, I’m on a bank, walked in to find one health care, which was me, an no nurses to take over from the night staff.
Then they should employ those of us that are looking for care jobs
Add to this the bullying that goes on but is never dealt with but instead rewarded!
I am a firm believer it's been a deliberate running down of our health care system to allow in more of the private sector. If the waiting lists are far too big unfortunately 'they will have no choice' and I think most people will believe that. Having forgot the mindset that started it.... Profit means too much now 🙄 and both main political party's were hinting at this.... Without an actual alternative it will keep degrading.
😢
Mixed health systems in Europe , especially in the Netherlands , Germany and Belgium all have
Good if not better
Systems of health care .
You are right hundred percent!!
so true,
We need this lot out. They break the law and refuse to leave 🤯
Great reportage. The NHS is being gutted behind the scenes and has been for years. We really need to bring this into wider attention and hold our political establishment to account. Otherwise, we may well lose the national treasure that is our NHS. A concerned UK citizen.
First step is to stop calling it a ' national treasure'. Calling it that means people are too scared to call out failures.
Those same doctors who work in the NHS work in private. Driving up waiting lists is beneficial to those consultants
@TheXRP Dog they are nothing to do with NHS
Little will improve, until we as a society acknowledge that more taxes are needed to fund the NHS for it to meet its growing challenges like people living longer, more expensive treatments...etc.
NHS is paying their staff on a very low paying scale and in the meantime they will pay 3 times more to agency staffs....thats how they treat their permanent staffs
It’s just crazy . I work as a full time NHS nurse but I’ve made money doing agency
There are nothing called permanent, we are just a number, in other word we are prostituted but some get paid more (Agency) and other get paid less (So called Permanent). Agency staff chosen to play this game right while permanent staff are playing safe.
So so so true.
....its crazy menua , I cant seem to think of any better explanation🤣😂😂
I’m an ex-NHS nurse who is now full-time agency. I hated my time as a full-time permanent member of staff due to lack of support whilst working on a dangerously understaffed ward. I literally experienced kidney pains from dehydration whilst encouraging patients to increase their oral intake!
I am an ICU nurse and also leaving bedside. Covid measures exacerbated an already vulnerable equilibrium. Healthcare has always been underappreciated but having to work in plastic with a mask digging into your face, taking care of 150kg patients, upping the work load by 50 or 100% and many more things was the final blow for me and many more. This work doesnt take care of people caring for people. No biggie though, I am ready to do something else.
the Netherlands
Need to design better masks?
They are not adjustable?
Most of the work done by nurses in NHS , doctors and specialists walking up and down the unit s and having their tea and coffee , i was in chelsea hospital for 10 days in last September i saw what is happening there , actually doctors and specialists need to 🤐🤐🤐
wish you all the best on your new journey. you deserve this new break and really soak in the time you have to spend with loved ones and remember you can always show care outside the hospitals which I'm sure you know already. Good luck
UK xx
@@TheVikicoco oh if that was happening there it is the same everywhere is it.
Don’t think you appreciate the exhaustion that goes with wearing full PPE for over 2 years. Selfish.
Thanks Doctors as you have put your careers on the line to tell us this! 👏🏾🙏🏾
It's a goshdarn shame the evil careless ones are foreshadowing the real hero's in the medical field. I honestly don't think I could do work like that.
And we don’t deserve it. Neither do they.
As a UK doctor I’m also leaving hospital life! Minimal pay, constantly understaffed doing more than 2 peoples job load, abused by managers who don’t care, It’s just not worth giving up my own life for anymore
Guessing the other doctors were hiding on a golf course and left you to do all the work as from what I recall doctors are barely seeing anyone and that’s still the case now ! Is this true ? And just to add I don’t blame you for leaving a corrupt organisation
@@stequality not seeing anyone? That's just lies fed to the public to try and privatise the NHS. Also if you work in a hospital how do u not see patients? Maybe as a GP when it was a pandemic. Don't believe everything you read online
@@stequality do you think that 1) doctors get paid like CEOs to casually have golfing weekends? 2) there are enough doctors? and 3) doctors have been avoiding work for the past few years (including covid) to leave the work to a small number of doctors?
You seem to have quite a naive view of NHS staff in general.
@@je6874 6 months to say that? Where you been ?
@@je6874 Doctors are overpaid.
My cousin is a nurse in the NHS specialises in Resuscitating babies in maternity care. When her brother my cousin died last November they only give her one day off for the funeral compassionate leave. Is it any wonder they are leaving? Then there was the so called pay rise which works out to be a pay cut.
God that's horrible, I sorry that happened
14 years of consecutive paycuts… wonders why everyone wants to leave…
I worked for the nhs for 44 years . I work in rehabilitation in the community . Staff will leave & the trust would not replace them . Staff are expected to do over time to cover . I refuse & was told I’m not a team player . I’m now 61years old & have done more then my fare share of being a team player over the years . The worst thing about it you get no support from your manager . If you go of sick there no one cares . They only want to know when your fit to return to work . I work in a environment that deliver care . But no one cares for the nurses .
That's normal!
@@irenedavo3768 unfortunately so I meen my cousin went down with a heart attack and my cousin who works in the nhs only got one poxy day off and was back in it was a disgrace. I’m from Ireland my cousins are brummies I traveled over and was disgusted at how she was basically only given the day of the funerals off.
They need to put someone who has worked in the NHS as Head of health care!
the NHS runs the NHS
Spot on. All they have now running the hospitals are paper shufflers and he’ll bent on hitting targets. Once that’s gone you won’t be able to afford to be sick. Added to that, people coming into the country on an NHS holiday. Getting treatments then not paying as they should. It all adds up.
They have mangers running the nhs that have no experience working in health care . They have come from industry
@@marlenecampbell1204 that's not totally a bad thing years of medical school and healing the sick does not make you an expert in procurement and other management tasks
Most of the medical students are less talented, brain damaged by their studies. Imagine this, if you choose to get in nhs without reading all posts or news every year blasting about nhs, you are pretty retarded.
There are many ways to rescue life, being medical servants are not the only way.
Lack of pay always be a disaster in UK 🇬🇧
In governmental socialism yes.
They didn't care about NHS staff because they were too busy lining their own pockets and going to parties 🤬🤬🤬
Nurses,Health care assistants and Doctors are very low paid jobs in NHS uk
Are they?
@@irenedavo3768 yup
Bullshit, a GP makes £85kpa that's 4 times the national average.,a nurse starts on £25kpa.
@@cleverB634 Nope
@@ppo2424 that's why more and more doctors are quitting and escaping to better run countries.
We're planning to move in Australia pay here in NHS is not enough to pay bills unless you do bank shift.
It's true
Australia ? It’s gone full fascism I wouldn’t want to go there !
Hospitals and health services immediately abandoned its staff and didn't stand up gor the healthcare workers ,they were willing to get rid of the workers if no jab,no questions asked just do as the government says.
They was ok to be there when the outbreak was the strongest. But now they're being thrown a side. It's shameful
@Kizito Kanu ditto. I worked through it all under great stress in radiology imaging dept. The final straw was the stress of being forced to have a vaccine. That stress was too much and broke me so that I am now off on sick leave. Complete idiots.
It's a goal of the Tories to dismantle the NHS for their backers to be able to gain more money from a privatized health care system, so no wonder they under fund it and leave condition sufficiently bad for the best people to leave
Boris johnson can't wait to privatise it
it is a goal of the every single politician and if u believe any different, u have been fooled
@@ine3653 I still live in a world where there are politicians that aren't in politics to fill their own pockets and/or those of their friends. The Tories don't.
Our work is important because it saves lives but you don't pay us accordingly. Just because we can save lives doesn't mean you can rob us of a decent lives for ourselves. The work life balance of healthcare workers are terrible. Do you still wonder why we quit. We can't even go on strike because "we are so important".
why i dropped it
fck being accountable anymore
most people poor health obesity
can lead a horse to water
life is cheap, you should work in an area with a more valuable product
In total agreement with this.
Physical, Racist abuse, Lack of Pay, Not appreciated, and becoming asian kinda politics where you give favouritism. The higher staff taking advantage from minor staff so the work load chasing them away.
so same as any were else
So true, if there is no change , soon NHS will die with no staff to keep going it !
I work in the NHS - that’s so true! We call it the ‘favouritism for the click’. Significant numbers of nursing staff, rub shoulders with management and get ‘protection’ easy work loads and extra support. In the mean time… those with integrity, who try to avoid politics and focus on patient care. Are rewarded with higher patient, nurse ratio, very poorly patients, or patients very confused, or high BMI requiring enhanced care, but without the staff to manage them. When iv requested support, I’m told by management/matron there are no staff. When I walk back to my bay empty handed again… I walk past two bay, with extra staff sat around chatting, because their bays are filled with patients with non of the above. It’s the same story all over the NHS
The above situation puts so much every day pressure on good NHS people.. that we eventually just can’t carry on. Staff sitting pretty isn’t really the problem it’s incompetent management.
I work for the NHS as a biomedical scientist. I’m contemplating leaving because I’ve been offered double the salary in the private sector and for less responsibility
How is that even a question run for it common sense.
Overworked, and underpaid. Same old story.
Yeah so overworked during an apparantly serious pandemic that they had time for dance routine videos.
@@RealIllumin some! This generation are shameful!
@@RealIllumin
I'm clearly working at the wrong trust as I'm having no such dance routines..... 🙃 besides wouldn't have the energy for all singing and dancing...
@@xsentfromuk8938 Good for you, an actual professional doing their job.
@@RealIllumin
To right that's why I joined to care and support people sadly that may be the reason I leave as care and support slipping away due to staff losses and higher turn over of patients all on a decreasing work force.. patients deserve better care and so do staff trying to do their jobs safely...
Like I always say, any job in the UK that massively recruit workers from Africa and other poor countries donnot have a good atmosphere and doesn’t pay well. If they do why don’t the British do it themselves.
Because there are many British who think they are entitled to a better job and simply working in health care is below their standards. These type of people more than likely have no education or qualifications and think they deserve better just because they see others working in better jobs.
Absolutely when I got here and started receiving my pay I realise. On my way! To America and I’m very proud it making this move
Why do Africans and other countries come here?
Makes more sense than the British governments ‘interpretation’ of supply and demand…
Untrainned managers everywhere. They want 100% of your commitment but have zero% for their workers. The partial recruitment is also sickening!!!!
sick of big pharma and what it's done to human health
‘Big pharma’ pays for the development of high tech drugs and new medical procedures. If pharma doesn’t pay for it… then who does? You?
As an HCA for the NHS I received £100 one month only as a thank you.
I do believe my life and my life's family is worth more than that after all we been an going through and they keep asking more and more from us.
I am so sorry but I don't have much left and if I keep doing it its because of pure necessity of the patients that are suffering in an hospital bed needing treatment.
Well at least you got that. Others who work in care got nothing. But I get your point. The risk we all took deserves more!
I didnt even get that, i got a box with a tiny smelly candle, a packet coffee, a bar of chocolate and some biscuits.
A charity gave a few grand to my hospital to go directly to staff, it was supposed to be a couple of hundred per person.
The hospital took the money, then told us that we werent allowed cash gifts as it went against policy, we were offered vouchers, they never arrived, we were then offered hoodies with rainbows on, they never arrived for me to throw back at them.
We got a badge.
I verbally threw it back at them.
We were paid £500 bonuses, minus tax and NI off course, for doing 13 shifts bank or 5 extra shifts for permanent staff in two weeks periods in December and January. The month that I received that bonuses with all this extra shifts done I felt that with this payment I can finally breath, no more overdraft 😆
Too be honest it's sad how badly the cost of living and size of your salary affects your life. Everyone knows that working for someone else will not make you rich, but working and being afraid to switch on heating coz how knows how much they will charge you...?
I don't believe that people in the government want to help anybody other than themselves. And if they hear criticism from time to time for their actions they know it's just a price for ambitions.
Will revolution start?
You got £100 ? As a NHS HCA working all through covid pandemic 48H every week, I got a plastic Christmas tree decoration with NHS written on it 😂😂 Shows you how much management love us! Also leaving
Visiting UK from Sweden I had the misfortune to get sick and naturally I went to a hospital. Having all the simptoms of a heart attack I was completely ignored and seen by a doctor after 9 HOURS. The emergency room was full of sick people, I've seen one man collapse and no nurse was willing to help him I've seen nurses screaming at pacients, saying they are busy when in fact they were laughing and talking about "last night" It was horrible between the filthy environment and the lack of emphathy from nurses or doctors, I felt s if I was in a third world country. I had to go through private care spending a small fortune just so I can get the services I get in Sweden and not even the private care rises up to our level of public care.
All my English friends complain about the NHS and I know understand why.
Like most sectors, it depends where you go. I trust you would agree that one experience being generalised may be an inaccurate representation of the whole system?
@@willnicholson18 regretfully I have to concede that low standards are widespread
As a student nurse sadly the only thing we can do half the time is chat to other staff because there is no social life outside of work, and when you are trying to treat patients you can't because you're waiting for all the other professionals to actually do their job (properly), patients asking when they'll be seen but the doctors go round the whole hospital and all wards so we wait for them. We are constantly waiting on others so we can finally do our job and even then it takes hours
Aura berglund what city was you in?
I'm mean the are a lot going on with covid a lot of strees.
They are a lot country's wih bad health care systems to. Political.
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Here in India we have a very good medical system . After paying we are treated like a king.
Was a nurse during covid and resigned recently, it’s not worth it.
You’ll see a very little about this in UK media. I wish doctors could raise their salary by themselves like the lorry drivers did, asking £80k or more.
What £90kpa isn't enough ? Lorry drivers do not make £80kpa you idiot,they're lucky to make half of that.
In private industry things are based off of supply and demand. More demand for doctors with no increase in supply… and they get paid more a lot more.
However in socialism the government in its incompetence controls the means of production, they set the cost and the pay supply and demand be dammed. But it’s doesn’t work.
Hence the failure/great shortcomings of the nhs.
When we all leave the managers at the top should go and run the wards☺️😂they wouldn’t last a minute especially in elderly care
They leave at 1500 hrs
True
Worked in healthcare in the UK for 18 years I've started to consider leaving much more better offers abroad
You should think about UAE and Qatar, where you get paid very well and also enjoy a good lifestyle.
People vote with their feet. Applies to politics just as much as economies.
It's terrible now the NHS!. There are doctors who are ashamed to say it, but the NHS is collapsed!. It's very scary because most of the time there is at least 8hrs wait! For an ambulance, and then only 2 doctors, for so many people!.. Come on you government!. Please!. WHAT ABOUT US!. As I've always said. God wants us to help each other!. It is the worst feeling ever is when your really ill or a family member is ill and needs urgent care, and have to wait so long for an ambulance!. There are about 10+ ambulances outside our local hospital waiting for hours to get the patients into the emergency room. The poor mother's, fathers, crying because they are so worried about their children, and waiting all night to be seen!. It's 💔💔💔. SOMEONE! needs to change this. I 🙏🙏🙏 for our future. WE NEED A GOVERNMENT WHO CAN CHANGE THIS AND NOT JUST SAY TYEY WILL!. IT'S TERRIBLE!. What kind of people would let so many people suffer?. TELL ME, WHO EVER MAKES THESE DECISIONS, WOUOD YOU EVER EXPECT TO WAIT 8 HOURS TO RECEIVE URGENT CARE?. THE ANSWER IS NO isn't it?. And you may think? , as we all do at times, oh that won't happen to me..., and maybe it won't, and I do pray it doesn't, just as I pray you would pray it doesnt happen to us 🙏🙏. Anyhow, I believe one day when our lives are done here we will be judged. The weighing of the heart❤. God bless us all. Amen 🙏
2 years later and i am still waiting for my treatment. These doctors did not lie
Sorry for still waiting whilst they hide behind the scamdemic ! Have you considered going private ?
If those healthcare workers are leaving then the Filipina nurses will fill the vacuum.
problem is most will leave become agency staff then be hired by the NHS to fill the gap that they left at twice the cost
the whole NHS system is corrupt but its a sacred cow so no one can touch it
I'm an NHS doctor. As soon as I can, I'm leaving.
@holcroft1969 bye bye indeed
@@w04andia come to Australia. 😊
@@w04andia what’s making you leave ? ( I don’t blame you )
@@stequality Hey, that's a fair question:) it's a combination of endless red tape, understaffing, underpaying, abusive patients and their relatives. I love medicine and helping people. But my (and many others') mental health is suffering. It's not worth it anymore.
@@w04andia no it is not worth it I think your doing the right thing, patients don’t help when they care cruel swines well they reap what they sow ! Also the nhs was happy to get rid of you anyway if you didn’t take the poison jab so yes find another establishment that will appreciate your talents
how many left bcs politicians decided to mandate the vaccine, caused the stress and irreversible damage to reputation of the unvaxed in nhs, just to stop that mandate month before it was due? i almost left myself bcs of it, and will leave as soon as I fin the alternative
There is enough money in the health sector but there is bad management of the money.
Healing to Vocalise, however NHS employees need to demand tax relieve for NHS employees ( 40% + pay deductables and real inflation at 15% ) or those 100,000 + nurses/doctors whom have been recruited from the Philippines/ India via the middle east will return to the good life in Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Qatar
I have been on the waiting list for for years now. I have been out sourcing my treatment. The people who are responsible should be punished before it gets worse
And what would that solve? Would you get your treatment any quicker?
@@mypointofview1111 when you get something ‘free’ and it’s distributed and managed by the government it is almost always doomed to fail. The nhs/socialized medicine is no different
On a band 2 salary I can NOT afford private health care.... if I was more financially viable I would go private in a blink... think that sums up access to services....
@@mypointofview1111
Yes you would get quicker access. I know this to be a fact as I've paid for private access during the pandemic ..I am saying I can not pay monthly payments out of a pittance wage . I also know that paying for private diagnostics enables you to get scans within 7 to 10 days. Won't access that time frame waiting on nhs....in fact at height of pandemic I waited 5 days to access going private.
The things that dentist, nurses and doctors have done to people is outrageous and I can speak for myself when it comes to I'll treatment from medical workers.
Working in the NHS is just the absolute worst. Unemployment is far far better.
Shut up moaning earn ya wage and shut ya gums
@@copemusicpromotionsdazreev3299 twts like you are why i left
i can walk on by if you need help dying on the street ... lol
is legend ashley your boyfried
Rot
@@copemusicpromotionsdazreev3299 lol I left. Enjoy the 15hr a&e queue.
Lol 😂
I'm a HCA in mental health and most wards are short staffed daily! Bank staff have as well as permanent staff have left. I don't blame them, we are working like slaves what with all the tax we pay. People womder why I work there but I tell them I'll leave soon.
Good,bye bye.
NHS, brilliant.
Civilians DO APPRECIATE NHS.
Politicians treat them like they are expendable & invincible without Lives of their own. NHS pay should equal the pay given to Military & Police. NHS should be afforded safe working Environment. ❤️
I remember in March 2020 feeling so unwell and no medication could help me and didn't even know exactly what it was; I contacted my ward manager (such an amazing manager) but unfortunately couldn't help because there was no equipment such as PEP available at the time. We worked overtime's not because wanted too but needed to support our lovely team under terrible and dangerous conditions therefore was constantly physically and mentally burnout and after 2+ years still feel the fatigue. Most NHS staff believe British government/management failed and still failing to deliver relevant support to its staff; staff are more vulnerable within NHS than anybody. After all there weren't increment and NHS employees MUST do overtime to avoid being short of cash each month. Applauses by the British public couldn't put food on our tables... I still feel that the British government could have at least suspend for 1 year all NHS employees/civil servantes council tax as gesture of good will, thanking and apologise for all the damage caused as many still traumatised after what we went through in the hands of the NHS.
NHS is understaffed for a very good reason and that is to privatise it slowly and steadily.
Absolutely spot on!
Politicians are only interested in giving private companies money to manage healthcare; which is not their priority. Too many managers and paperwork is also taking time from actual patient care.
Something must be done.
I'm an NHS worker and fed up, I'm not surprised.
Me too 21 years in ED for me I’m getting gone
Nurses are struggling even more. I would love to see a piece on them. They have been the real heroes through all this, all the risk but without the big pay of these physicians.
totally agree.
so are the HCAs
Exactly 💯
Big pay?
There's no big pay at all
Bullying, bullying is why everyone leaves the NHS. Lazy staff push their job off onto lower staff and bully them when they ask any type of questions, being a student asking questions is part of the contract for you to learn, but you dare ask a question !!!! Its a vile institution to be in, when you go to the people who are supposed to support you they bully you into silence and even when the lawyers apologise to you the NURSES and UNI still enforce punishment on you because how dare you do it right!!!! The main issue that can be solved and help all immidiatley is to stop the bullying (which is 90% female nurses)
Did she say, we need to find why the health workers are leaving the job that they LOVE??! 😂 To start with, if they loved their job, they'd hardly leave. I work for the NHS. Its ok, I'm grateful for a steady job, but I definitely don't love it. And I don't think I know anybody that does. It's run by people that have different realities to people with common sense. It's organised to attribute blame. It's full of ridiculous pointless paperwork (they have a form for opening a window 😂) We have autistic patient that doesn't understand healthy eating. Eats all the sweets, chocolate, crisps, and fizzy pop he wants. I mean that's the fault also of the people that took care of him before us (special needs people now seem to get indulged like spoilt children) but this is THE HEALTH service! It's such BS.
Buuut, I prefer it to a warehouse or factory 😉
So let me get this straight. You are using your singular experience to negate the feelings of other people?
"If they loved their job, they'd hardly leave".
They are not leaving medicine, they are leaving a poor healthcare system.
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Most left last year because of the stupid vaccine mandate, THAT is the reason many left
The chums of the Tory party who got rich from supplying P.P.E even though they had no experience in the field are not complaining.
I thank god that am leaving in Norway, They are having one of the best health system in the world😘
That's because people pay more taxes there into health system.
Jallow. When I lived in the UK, I often felt that the health service should be run by the Germans, Norwegians or mainland Europeans, or the Chinese... otherwise it will just get worse. Cut the pay of management , make management work at least one day helping patients and cleaning the hospital wards or find other jobs that pay better.
Good for you I don’t blame you Working in the NHS sucks
@@sarahchapman7863 so true. Not just working for it but the whole system is broke. Time to bring in mainland Europeans or the Chinese to run it.
NHS must review its policies which gives the British public so much power and less protective of the hard working healthcare workers who gets physically and verbally abused by the patients who are receiving free care.
@holcroft1969
You change you arrogant attitude and never ask the NHS to cure you of illness.
@holcroft1969 That's what they are doing, and the British public is suffering because they are leaving as you suggest. If the public cared about having doctors and nurses your country would not vote for the party killing the NHS every general election
@holcroft1969 Neither you nor your countrymen deserve the NHS as you don't know what you have that so many others don't. If you cared, you would have protested with junior doctors or nurses rather than saying they can leave their jobs if they don't like it, and then complaining that you can't see doctors when you want or get an ambulance like an imbecile who can't see beyond his own nose. You had the brain drain of Brexit, and now doctors are moving to Australia and getting paid twice the amount of money which is closer to the market average, and have half the workload because the government cares more about patient safety and keeping skill. Enjoy your self inflicted slow decline.
Free? If it's "free" I would like to know where my monthly "National Insurance" contributions - taken straight out of my wages - are going! Which I have paid into for 35 year and have hardly ever made used of. Freee, Lmao!
@holcroft1969 well the nhs workers will leave then. People vote with their feet and that includes even workers
The health service needs to be operated both by state and private similarly to France, the nhs wastes money with private outsourcing to reduce lists. Divide it up, this wouldn't happen. I've just left nhs it has no future as it stands.
The NHS formed partnership with Quintiles a pharma company in 2004. Private, Public Parnership is fascism. The 2004 Regulation The Medicine for Human Use (Clinical Trials) authorised to conduct clinical trials are: doctors, nurses, pharmacists, dentists, opticians, and other medical professionals. In Cameron govt invited the world to 'come to UK for your life science research, we have more than 60million NHS patients' offered the British people as human guinea pigs/rats.
In 1988, an employee of -Roschild-Bank-Oliver-Letwin-and-John-Redwood-MP- wrote a pamphlet about the 'Privatisation of the NHS.' The NHS slowly worsening health care service in order to introduce private companies. The bed blocking cost £820million in one year could be alleviate by increasing the number of Community Hospitals (about 10-beds) but instead Community Hospitals were closed down.
Simon Steven who used to work in US Health Insurance provider run the NHS England. His previous employer US Health Insurance provider is going to run the NHS Health Insurance. Tony Blair hired him to run the NHS England ...very convenient! The campaign to destroy public trust and confidence in the NHS driving patients towards private healthcare. There was the de-skilling of junior doctors cause medical errors and complications - to reduce wage budget. In the US this is the 3rd cause of deaths.
NHS as a public service provide healthcare based on needs not the ability to pay. So the Americanisation of the NHS is a bad idea. The Bill already passed the House of Common with the help of traitors MPs. It is now in the House of Lords I hope it is still there. The House of Lords cannot stop the bill from passing but it can stop the bill by returning it back to the House of Commons for the MP's to reconsider.
The American style pay-to-play healthcare system don't work in the US which is shambolic... it puts profit above the patients interests. There is no positive reasons why NHS has to adopt this system. But been push by the lobbyist corporate interest, the interest of traitors British politicians who will have financial rewards.
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians, this saying comes to mind when I think of the NHS. The managers cannot manage properly. The system needs changing.
I love this dr . A dinner lady clothing as a mask. That's the improvisation our government used to lock us down for 2 years.
As compared to work and stress pays are very less in nhs and healthcare workers are hardly meeting ends
its getting daft, I did six 12 hour shifts last week so the service could run properly and try to stop my staff getting too stressed.
last person I sent to AE waited for 30 hours in AE to get on a ward
and don't forget the government's "we can't increase wages just due to recession" we'll everyone else is, you can earn more in supermarkets and delivering parcels.
speak with the ED doctors, the reason why staffs are leaving because rhe NHS is broken. PRIMARY health is totally broken, GPs kept sending patients to Emergency even if they are not emergency… majority are phone consultations, thats why majority are misdiagnosed and gets worse in time. Its not about Covid its about how primary care is being managed.
Gp surgeries are booking appointments a Month later, only to say, go to a pharmacy and buy paracetamol. And a pharmacy isn't even licenced to sell paracetamol to some people, eg, pregnant, without a prescription first.
@@ayishaks6510 yeah a month late.. and conditions gotten worse… and worst part is its always a Phone consultation… a runnish way of professionalism.
That’s because there are no GPS either ! Everyone is trying their best in a broken system
@@nettlesid yes… and they are still getting higher pay than the ED doctors who looks after their patients. Hospitals are over crowded, staffs are leaving becuase if this.
@holcroft1969 seeing 60-80 patients a day - over twice the recommended safe level , over 12 h with no breaks . Working 60 h per week ….. lazy ? That doesn’t sound lazy to me
When I started as a hospital porter the work was intense low pay but we. All loved it cuz we worked as a team then the managers who sit on there but overloaded everyone and I have it
Silent protests outside . Parties indoors.
Thank goodness for honesty at long last! Most drs sorry to say are mere representatives for the pharmaceutical industry. What happened to do no harm or really follow the science rather than the money? I’ve been a care worker for 40plus years and I’ve never seen so much waste of money in the nhs in all that time. Makes my very sad to see the decline.
We actually have to prioritise the welfare and happiness of the staff than patients…… because a knackered workforce cannot look after sick people…. they must be well rested and well balanced
This is why I hardly go to NHS. I hear health workers over stressed all the time. Haven't used the service in the last 5yrs. I get sick i just buy an OTC meds and move on
I quit as a hospital volunteer after 21 years because I saw a lot of healthcare workers here in the US not following any safety protocols. (these were with Covid rooms) These staff were given PPE and that PPE equipment just sat on a equipment cart in the storage room or precautions carts, unused.
I blew my whistle to the workers, to the supervisors, to the volunteer services, to the hospital unanimously on the phone and to the local newspaper. I now volunteer at a National Museum that follows more safety protocols than at the hospital. It was so stressful seeing newborns being exposed to Covid 19 unnecessarily and only two nurses that I knew followed the proper protocols. Those not following protocols were nurses, supply workers, housekeeping, sharp container pick-up, nutrition workers and the one that gutted me was the medical students that were doing their clinicals. America has problems and this was a top 100 hospital.
Disgusting brainwashed snitch is what you are. Your type are the lowest of the lowest. Let people be sick and get natural immunity moron. People that are vulnerable shouldn't be in public in the first place.
I can personally say I know not one person who would intentionally not wear PPE with a confirm infectious patient. We have been so poorly treated and forced to take on so many patients that I have not taken breaks, I have not had the chance to pee, I have had double or triple the amount of work knowing that no backup will come when a patient coded or worse. Patients were being triage in rooms with the same diagnosis and comorbidity, I'm sure I missed changing my PPE and in an emergency to save someone's life. Unfortunate but even when hospitals have equipment I can guarantee you 90% of them are under staffed, and we all know it.
NHS is too overcrowded , its so difficult to even get an appointment !!
This is the whole problem with Socialism , you provide something for free and gradually the quality of it decreases !!
Stupid viewpoint. There’s no better system nor a more moral one. The key is to fund it better. Furthermore, the quality of healthcare offered to citizens is by and large, world class. I should know, I’ve been saved by the NHS from lymphoma and I now work on the front lines. There are very few better healthcare systems. But pay and conditions for staff need to improve
This is the impression I got too. Shortage of doctors and nurses, hospital beds, long waiting times in emergency department etc. Glad I left the UK.
The issue is where is all the money going. Nhs get a huge chunk of the taxpayers money but how is it managed. During 2020/2021 look at all the money wasted on rainbow zebra crossings and nonsense. I think it's time people had the choice to opt in or opt out of the NHS/private healthcare.
lool
I left in March this year after the vax mandate. I am now working for a private company. It is one of the best decisions i ever made
“We’re only human “ this is a real cry from the heart .
The government really needs to stop playing the ostrich and brace up to the real problems that have been accentuated and highlighted by the pandemic. It is commendable that doctors rather than grin and bear it as we have done for decades, are beginning to call these anomalies out.
Advocating for ourselves , insisting on a better , safer way to work , as well as prioritising mental health through resilience is the way forward I propose in my new book Doctors Are Human Too, how to save lives without losing yours , resilience tools for doctors by Dr Patricia Ngene
Some of them working in the NHS should never be allowed anywhere near vulnerable adults and children. But I think these will be the ones who will stay in the NHS, and all the good ones will leave.
Do you blame them ? I don’t
@@stequality No, I don't blame the good ones for leaving at all. They should leave.
@@user-qt1le6ih6i I think so to, after all they were ready to sack thousands of them shows they don’t fight for their staff or respect their decisions
@@stequality It's a toxic, narcissistic, self-serving institution and as with all narcissistic relationships, it always ends badly for the innocent party. They don't care whose lives they ruin. In their sick mind, the end justifies the means.
It's bad management, fire the government get a new one
UK doesn't need to worry. The number of nurses in India is above the total population of entire UK. Indian nurses love to come in a western country like UK than coming in GCC.
Monthly salary of a nurse working 6 days per week in India is between 50 pounds & 100 pounds. But in UK it is 2000 pounds as starting (Note : 3-4 days work only in week).
Rishi Sunak knows it well.
The only way to overcome NHS crisis is to reduce the OET cut off. A lot of my nursing friends are dreaming to come in UK. UK give good family benefits also.
If UK reduce the cut off of OET again, they can overcome the NHS crisis. very easily.
I quit my job last December 2021 as ITU Charge Nurse after 7 years.
@Matthew Young take a wild guess?
What did you do afterwards? I want to quit but not sure what my exit plan is! X
Because of the tories plain and simple. England dyou think you have it bad us Scots have nearly nothing up here only reason we have anything is because of the snp who are limited in their power.
I guess one of the things we have England don't is free prescriptions
I'm handing in my resignation... Bad pay bad working conditions bad management abusive patients
Mark Lamont Hill … nice to see you, he’s doing his thing great stuff.
These doctors are loosing their license soon. I am a agency nurse because of so many stressful reason at Nhs and less pay.
Hello can you tell me more about agency nursing ? How to apply ?
We don't even get paid properly and we are resource limited
your employer is broke and in debit
Lol tell me about it
I think I am on the hook, as I have already started to use private care. I just can’t afford waiting one to two months time to check a possible heart attack.
I don’t blame you if I get sick I will be doing to same thing
Bluntly and well spoken
Well-done guys
It's my target to leave my job and focus on Seacret direct
public/ patients do not want state of art buildings, they simply want quick and effective medical care.
UK/NHS hahahaha just take peracetamol and politicians one is kissing at the back doors and other one partying. What could possibly go wrong.
My experience as a volunteer at our local hospital made me hate yes literally hate health care workers. I was delivering food trays each food tray has a form that will indicate whether or not the person receiving the tray needs assistance to be fed or not the note said assist I spoke to the nurse nurse took the note threw it away said she can do it herself don't believe me while this woman is 97 years old so I fed her. Said good bye put my apron on the chair n walked out
I also want to mention that not all healthcare workers are like what I described. And thanks for service to all those who do good
Yes, as a visitor in hospitals over the years, several elderly people, with strokes etc, unable to see well, hold cutlery were left to feed themselves, while nurses were chatting amongst themselves, you can train nurses, doctors, but kindness, compassion cannot be taught, and it is now sadly lacking in the NHS.
@@kayjones8908 such wise and beyond true words. The look the nurse gave me when I chose to feed the elderly woman was mean. Like if looks could kill, I'd of died right there. Before I finished the woman looked at me and said "this was nice. its been a while since I've had a visitor". Telling me nobody sees her. Broke my heart.
Yes I've seen it myself when I was in hospital for 10 days years ago. On my ward their was only 2 genuine nurses, the rest couldn't be bothered, just sat behind their desk talking!
After 30 years, I have decided to leave. The insidious privatisation and gaslighting of staff and patients is sickening, literally. I’m sorry NHS. I love you but this is no life.
Cmon Boris Johnson ! ( Bo Jo ). Brexit shall surely fix this up right .💡
My country didn't even vote fir brexit but got took out it because other people believed johnsons lies
The mandates world wide open our eyes ,we realized we are not essential as we believe.
Yes mandates across nhs and those across care sector that sacked staff have reinforced to all staff that we all replaceable as workers and we was all shown how much we not valued from higher up the chain.... doesn't do staff moral any good ..... had better morale at the hight of pandemic but even that has gone with the ever depleted staff levels.. reason patients bed blocking is because care across sectors collapsed.... on to few staff and not sustainable any longer... this is the result of mandates....
Only solution is - people stop falling sick. Considering most people suffer from chronic diseases resulting from poor lifestyle decisions,it's time folks take responsibility for their own health. The hospitals are filled with conditions resulting from neglected issues.
Sugar is everywhere- processed food is everywhere and cheap - plastic in our food and clothes-pollution - but it’s peoples fault?? ????
Then recruit many of our Filipino nurses from the Philippines. We have many nurses in Iloilo City, Cebu City, Davao City, Makati City, Bacolod City all cities are in the Philippines and there are many of our nurses are willing to go to the United Kingdom if ever there is a chance. Maybe the United Kingdom can send some recruitment officials to the Philippines to recruit our nurses. Please do. Please do.
govt spends on hiring expensive managers to manage managers that instead of hiring more and more permanent staff waste money on hiring non permanent expensive locum. staff
It is also bad this service cannot be blocked
But this started with Tony Blair and his PFI programs where his private sector buddies were lending money to the NHS hospitals to upgrade and extend their buildings. However they were charging much more than high street banks. They were insisting on being awarded other contracts at inflated rates like catering, security, maintenance, laundry etc. I remember the farce of it costing 60 pounds to change a light bulb. So much money was stripped out of patient care to fund these massive mortgages at inflated rates plus the associated inflated contracts. It’s not been 25 years yet. So when labour get confused as to how given the same levels of funding as many other western countries it fails to deliver in a similar way. Hello, look at the structural debt. The hidden national debt as it is underwritten by the taxpayer. The hidden debt that would make the nations debt to gdp ratio look very bad that no one talks about it. So bad that it might impact the countries credit rating.
They reduced the numbers of beds massively, at the time they talked about not needing the beds as post op care had improved. Since then the population has gotten older and sicker and gone up by 6 million in the last 12 years. Also the real reason the beds had to be cut was they could afford to keep them open and pay the PFI partners their cut.
So over the last decade and more the wages of doctors and nurses has been suppressed to pay for this structural debt. Consequently the doctors and nurses aren’t very happy and don’t want to work for low wages. Some junior doctors are earning less than tube drivers even with a decade of training under their belts. With the cost of living skyrocketing people can’t afford to stay in these jobs.
I want to leave work but too much debt 😭
Excellent journalism and guests!
All health and social care system is terrific underpaid and unrespected. Isn't there enough specialists and freshmen because education is very expensive. We can't live from claps instead salary...
Own life own decisions
All healthcare will leave and risk to tragedy as nurses doctors leave then normal volunteers will be left to do operations at low learning pocket money
Because they have security on the hospital door . Just make sure nobody who need help not come in