Why Was Maniac Mansion Such A Big Deal?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video: 7 college kids, one crazy doctor (and his blue family), and more rooms than the Four Seasons. What's a boyfriend trying to save his girl to do? Maniac Mansion changed games forever, so let's find out why it's still so great after 33 years! An honest review of Maniac Mansion on NES.
#retrogaming #nes #maniacmansion
Platforms reviewed: Nintendo Entertainment System (NES)
Release Date: September, 1990
Publisher: Jaleco/Lucasfilm Games
Video Contents:
00:00 - Intro
0:49 - Say It Isnt Joe Reviews
01:12 - Maniac Mansion Plot
03:19 - Maniac Mansion Gameplay
06:39 - Maniac Mansion Music & Graphics
09:08 - Maniac Mansion Overall Score/Conclusion
Note: Because a lot of people seem to be upset over it, I'll note that I was incorrect in saying this game was made for the PC first. It was made for the Commodore 64 first. Sorry about that.
Intro song: "Code Chill", Streambeats by Harris Heller. streambeats.com/ & @StreamBeatsbyHarrisHeller - เกม
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What's your favorite version of Maniac Mansion? With so many to choose from, I bet everyone has one that's particularly close to them - let me know!
C64 version, since this was the version i played (Zack McKracken too).
Maniac Mansion was originally written for the Commodore 64! In the video you claim frequently that it came out for PC first. You should correct that in the video description at least.
@@bierundkippen720 you're far from the first person to point that out, but sure I can edit the description.
@@SayItIsntJoe Good
Played it on the Apple IIe. Did not get very far as some of the puzzles were too much for my childish mind to figure out. Did beat it way later on after I could search for how to defeat some of the puzzles.
Maniac Mansion was not, by no means, developed for MS DOS first. It was developed on and released first for the C64. The PC port was released more than 5 months after the C64 release.
I was going to comment this exactly 👌
C64 forever!
One of my favorite NES games of all time. The music to me made it better than the other versions.
I definitely thought the music was great (but I appreciated the ability to mute it too lol)
IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, Maniac Mansion was the only game ever that you could put a hamster in the microwave or play ding dong ditch. When you are 7 or 8, it keeps you laughing. The only other games I found after Maniac Mansion that let you mess around was Base Wars for the NES where the pitcher could hit the player at bat or much later, on the PC, with The Sims 3 where you could walk up to a neighbors window at night and have the option to "look in window", where it then shows your neighbor doing things like talking, watching TV, whatever, then he/she sees you looking through the window and they run outside and get in your face and confront you. Or you could fall asleep at your neighbors house in The Sims 3, outside on the porch or the backyard, and the neighbor finds you and they pace around with a picture of you in the thought blip with the red double negative minus sign because they are so annoyed you are there. Hahahahaha! Never gets old. You just get older.
If you enjoy the catharsis of being an annoying to virtual people you might enjoy Red Dead Redemption’s greet/antagonize system. You can just go up to people and start being a dick.
The game wasn't designed for PC, but the Commodore 64. And that is the version you should focus a review on. There was a difference between a PC and a home computer like the C64 back than...🧐
That's been mentioned a couple times to me, and I agree. However, I don't have a c64 emulator, and I originally played on the nes which is why I reviewed that platform. Maybe I'll make a follow-up video...
I still wish i could personally thank Ron Gilbert for this game that has been one of my absolute most favorite games EVER. I first saw it on the C64 back in 1990 when my father used a C64 that he got from a friend for a few days. THIS game was among them and fast forward a year, christmas of 1991 and my father got Maniac Mansion for the NES. And THAT was when i really got into the game and felt like home since i already knew it from the C64 but i loved how much faster it run on the NES and the soundtrack and graphics were even better. It was more or less my first open world sandbox game experience, where you could interact with the world and try all sorts of things. And i just loved the whole atmosphere of the Mansion and the different rooms. You knew every second something could happen. And when a cutscene happened or the doorbell rang, i jumped the seat. Nowdays i have it as a GOG version for PC and also Day of the Tentacle but the NES version of Maniac Mansion is still my favorite version of it.
It's a testament to how great the game is that its still so loved all these years later! Glad it brought back memories for you
*This game on C64 changed my life*
Rightfully so.
The sequel Day of the Tentacle was great too. I loved how you could play the original on the computer in Ed's room
I definitely need to give that one a spin! Thanks for the reminder
@@SayItIsntJoe Absolutely worth it.
@@Robeight It's on the download list!
Maniac Mansion were a bigger deal on Commodore 64 and Amiga, than on NES.
That makes sense since it was a pc game first, but the NES seemed enough of a departure for a review to me without losing some of the key elements
@@SayItIsntJoe
The game was designed for the Commodore 64 to begin with.
@@LUCKO2022Yes, and what platform did the Commodore 64 fall under? PC.
Nah, it was the first game I ever beat on NES. Stop gate keeping.
@@orangejjayvon wem?
Maniac Mansion deserves a high quality high fan fidelity remake. It's a goofy, fun, wonderful game and holds it's fun and replayability factor very well, even today.
I completely agree!! As long as it's made faithfully, and not toned down for today's audience (or who they think that would be) I'd bet it got a good amount of attention. But then, they did try to do that to some degree with the newest Monkey Island game, and while I enjoyed it, I definitely don't think it compares to the earlier ones. But you never know!
@@SayItIsntJoe I'm willing to guarantee it won't be watered down by putting finances behind an effort to remake it. By the gamers, for the gamers, that's my standpoint.
there already is... maniac mansion deluxe (which is more a exact VGA 256 color remake of the original game) and meteor mess 3d (which is Maniac mansion in 3dish perspective.) Both are free.
@@000jimbojones000 I'll be googling that!!
Don't forget Leisure Suit Larry!
OMG how could I?? Such amazing games, I sincerely apologize to Larry, Patti, really everyone for that one.
I loved this game. The NES version had such good music. I remember renting this many times
Honestly, there were no bad versions of this game! I really enjoyed going back to play it again
Razor and Dave had the best soundtrack!
The best part of the game was the replay value. Choose different characters or go for a different ending. A replay value is rather rare for an adventure game, unless you want to replay the same story, as most adventure games are pretty linear. And note that the ending does not directly depend on your character choices, as there are more character combinations (15) than there are (good) endings (4), yet the game can be beaten with every character combinations and different endings can be reached with the same character combination. Note: The NES version has an extra way to reach one of the good endings to avoid an otherwise dead end. Also there are more endings if you consider that you can still beat the game with one character dying (depending on who is dying and when the character is dying), including Dave dying, which will of course change the end sequence (not all ports allow Dave to die). And it's also fun to see the bad endings. Also there are a few Easter eggs in the game that are pointless to win the game but fun to figure out.
You're an expert on this game, I needed you when I was playing it!
MM was a staple of my childhood. It brought my siblings together. ❤
@@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar2493 I love to hear those memories!!
I was 7 when this was released. This game was ahead of it's time
Agreed!! And still so good
One of my favorite games on C64. Glad to see it getting some love and attention all these years later.
It never seems to have lost all the fan love, that's for sure!
One my favorite Christmas vacations was renting this and playing it. The moment I figured out how to ding-dong-ditch blew my mind and I was hooked. Merry Christmas, Dave!
I feel like I would have kept doing that over and over again if I knew you could without getting caught :)
Excellent production value. Good content. Bro, I hope this works out for you.
Thank you!!
You say there are three endings, but I'd say there are five, with one of them being the nuclear meltdown that you showed in the video.
But for winning the game, there is basically the base ending and two alternate endings, so the three you stated, but there's also a unique sequence if you meet the requirements for both alternate endings at the same time. I remember once hearing that ending referred to as the secret fourth ending.
I believe there can also be some variations of the endings dependent on whether Dave is alive or dead.
@Dethneko that's true, I've seen videos of the other endings possible but I can only record seeing the endings I did, so I guess there's still more to discover!
This game literally coined the term "cut scene" by cutting away to scenes
That's funny, I definitely think it started the trend in PC games and I love that
Mmmm no, cut scenes for video games began in the 1960's but we're already used in comedic film.the original cut scenes in comedy movies are literally what family guys premise is stolen from. The more you know kiddo
This a great polished video. Well done, sir. Keep it up!
Thank you!! I plan to, keep coming back! 😃
Wow..great review! Thanks for sharing
Pretty sure the game actually had multiple endings depending on the characters you selected to play as. Also don't forget the infamous "hamster in the microwave" wave trick that was eventually cut from later copies of the game.
Both good points! I was pretty sure there were more endings, but I never got them. I should probably have clarified there may be more I didn't know about. And I couldn't bring myself to mention the hamster.. Both one of my favorite jokes in the game, but also one it's best not everyone knows about lol
@@SayItIsntJoe Yeah my memory is hazy but I'm pretty sure there's at least half a dozen endings to be had based on character selection as well as who you interact with. [POSSIBLE SPOILERS] I *think* one of the endings features one of the tentacle characters getting his own talk show lol. You can also befriend Weird Ed based on certain choices you make. Or if you happen to blow up his hamster and try to return it to him he actually kills you, making it one of the few ways the characters actually die lol.
I was hooked on this game when it came out. Would love for them to make a modernized version of this game.
@@Awesoman I checked and [SPOILERS] There are actually about 6 endings. One where you befriend Dr. Ed, one where you befriend Dr. Ed but Dave (main hero of the game) is dead, one where you send the meteor back in space in Dr. Ed's car, one where Meteor Police will come and arrest the meteor, one where the meteor ends up as a famous writer and is interviewed in a talk show and one where the meteor ends up as a quest in a talk show AND is arrested by the meteor police right after that. Some versions also have ending where you can feed the meteor to a carnivorous plant. There are also some slight variations in endings depending if 0,1, or 2 kids are dead (other than Dave).
You can also kill everyone in 7 different ways, kill a single kid in 7 different ways and also have 15 different dead ends (although according to game makers these are because of too little game testing, they were not originally intended to be there). There's also a lot of variations on what you can do, such as sending several different types of records or books to a publisher and get different outcomes. Quite massive for a game that came out in 1987!
@@fau8908 One of the dead ends is from not being able to find a can of gasoline to power the chainsaw. If you've ever played Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders you find that can somewhere on Mars and when you try to pick it up the character says "I don't need it. It's for a different game."
@@d.-_-.b That's not really a dead end so much as a joke or red herring -- there's no gas for the chainsaw, but it doesn't put the game in an unwinnable state (which is what I believe was meant by "dead end" above. The game can be infuriating because you can do something to make the game unwinnable, and the game doesn't give you any feedback, so you'll be playing for hours, not realizing you can't win the game without restarting.)
Ya want even more fun? There's a low budget live action canadian tv show based on this game. I can hear the song in my head as I type this
Yes!! A Canadian friend of mine recently told me about it, I need to find it somewhere..
"Don’t be a tuna head." 😂
Sage advice.
i would always play as bernard and razor. partner with the tentacle that wants to be a rocker
Im glad i can play this on my phone, i remember playing this in the 90s
I don't know if I'd enjoy it quite as much on the phone, but it's cool it's so freely available now. I still think the PC is my favorite platform for it.
Loved the PC version, but I didn't know about the massive changes during the port to NES. Really interesting to see the differences. I also played a web version at some point in the last five years, but I sadly can't find it right now. It always reminded me of those Choose Your Own Adventure books, especially in terms of setting and villains.
This was a great review, regardless, and nicely presented! Giving you a sub for sure.
Thanks for the feedback! I know the game was ported all kinds of places over the years, and rightfully so - it's a great one!
There is a prototype nes version that has none of the censorship forced onto it. If I'm not mistaken, screenshots of it were used in Nintendo Power.
@vintagegamer695 that's cool, I'll have to take a look for it!
Wow. Your video is very high quality. Your presentation is on point. I have a feeling that your channel is gonna get bigger. 🎉
Thank you! That would be awesome, it's just been fun building a community of other game fans like me so far!
From the games you chose to mention that used the SCUMM Engine it sounded like you may have been using the visuals/interface as a reference to work it out, but the SCUMM engine was used over a decade. EVERY LucasArts adventure game until Grim Fandango used it (so Day of the Tentacle, Sam & Max, Full Throttle and Curse of Monkey Island all used it) but even beyond that, somehow it wasn't LucasArts proprietary and Ron Gilbert took it with him when he founded Humongous Games. So he made the Freddie Fish and Pajama Sam games with it, but, beyond that, SCUMM was adapted for their breakout massively beloved series Backyard Sports.
That's awesome! I didn't know that much about it aside from what I used it for, but I love learning the lore behind what made these great games, so thank you!
I remember when I'd get thrown off the computer because that little PC Speaker was tweeting it's heart out all day long. If only I knew to turn off the music...
Haha yeah that's a pain we all know!
Holy cow. Incredible production value.
Thank you so much!! It's all still pretty new to me, but I'm glad someone out there enjoys it
@@SayItIsntJoe your channel is a gem on the platform! I really love it.
Indeed, new sub here!
@ahirunakamura9592 thank you so much!!
Another game that I dabbled in. I never finished it. I know as a kid, I had a lot of issues trying to figure out what to do. Great review!
Thank you! I suggest another play through when time allows, it's not a big investment and with so many ways to play and finish the game, it's always something new to explore
It was funny finding the chainsaw in Maniac Mansion and finding the fuel for it in Zack McKracken on Mars in a closet.
Long way to go to get that bad boy working! Lol
@@SayItIsntJoe Hehe.
You’re speaking my language brother! Great product value btw - Subbed!
Thank you!! I'm having fun going back to all these great games
I meant *Production* lol @@SayItIsntJoe
Oh my god, the memories. I remember sitting down for two months during school break and playing maniac mansion like a maniac myself. And I got through it. It was a lot of trial and error.
And it's still so much fun after all this time!! Glad you got some memories out of the video :)
I wished I had owned Maniac Mansion back in the day. Only got to play it at a friend's house on the other side of the neighborhood I lived at for a while. And we started from the beginning each time and so never got to get far as they'd want to go do something else.
Well, I think that's the beauty of being alive today - I wasn't able to own many games when I was a kid either, but now I can emulate or find them pretty cheap and have a chance to relive those days!
@@SayItIsntJoe Yeah, though I had a lot more fun as a kid playing Zelda all day burning every bush trying to find secrets and making maps on graph paper. I just don't have the patience for that, so I enjoy the memories more than playing the old games today. Though I do play them and have Switch Online, just had a lot more fun as a kid when I could play them all day as there was nothing else to do other than watch reruns on TV.
In May this year Romhacking released the "Maniac Mansion Uncensored" version 2.4 hack for the NES which reverts all the changes made to their original C64/PC splendour!
That's awesome!! I'll have to check that out
What comes to mind to me as the one bad thing in the game is the possibility of dead ends. It's not as bad as Zak McKracken, as sometimes if you make the game unwinnable by one character it can still be beaten by the other characters, but given what we're used to from LucasArts adventures it's still on the rough side. BTW for anyone picking it up for the first time, the combination of Bernard and Wendy gives the most possible endings.
Yeah that's also one of the interesting things about this game, it's a departure in so many ways from what you expect. I think that's why I liked it so much!
The NES version had a glitch to help you beat quickly, the inner door if you don't fix the arcade game's power will default to 0000. You can just open the door with that bypassing that whole operate of fixing the wires with the power off. My brother found this out when he tried opening the door, and wasn't sure what to put so he hit all zeroes. Sure enough it opened.
I really enjoyed the game as it's full of secrets and personality. The manual and bonus sheet that came with the game give hints but don't outright say what to do. I wish they gave Sid and Razor more unique playthroughs, as they do the same thing both being musicians despite you'd imagine their styles would give very different tastes. (They're only kids willing explode the hamster in the microwave.) Jeff is basically a worse version of Bernard. He only fixes the phone, which doesn't lead toward any path of beating the game by itself. Bernard does that and has a path to victory. This makes Jeff the worst of the selectable kids.(Dave is the worst, but he has to be taken. I call him doorstop Dave, since he was always holding the doors open for more useful kids.) Michael and Wendy both have paths to victory that are unique to them.
The game has a couple endings actually. If you use the car to blast the meteror into space in the trunk of the car, you will see it fly off before the ending. The Meteor police can arrest the meteor changing how the finale wraps up, or you can just feed the meteor to the plant and it will eat it to end the game If you just save Sandy with no one dead, there's the standard ending. If you have dave die, you get a different ending. If you send the manuscript to people who publish anything with Wendy, you get a different ending. If you do this and Wendy dies, it changes the ending slightly. The final bonus is if you use Wendy and Bernard together. Bernard calls the meteor police, but they don't get into the lab. Wendy does the thing with the manuscript afterwards, then something else happens I won't spoil it. I discovered this last one much later when I was messing around and my friend asked me about playing it. I kinda of was showing off what each kid did, and was so I trigger the events up to the ending for both. I didn't expect both together to trigger a new ending, but was a awesome surpise when it happened.
I've played this game before I could read.
I always asked my Mom what the words say.
Haha that's awesome! Great early memories then eh? 👏
@@SayItIsntJoe Yes, it was fun. "Rotten Turkey" What are you playing there? xD
I remember Maniac Mansion being the cover of Nintendo Power, I was like what is the big deal about this game?
Well, now we know!!
When we first got the NES console as a Christmas present, we also got a year's subscription to Nintendo Power. The very first Nintendo Power I read had Maniac Mansion on the cover, and I thought it was really interesting, so we got that game at some point. I never knew it was on the PC first. Loved the game.
That's awesome! My brother had Nintendo power, he got the subscription for his birthday but I didn't. So I had to kinda steal it if I wanted to read it lol
SAME HERE :D my dad got it for christmas 1991 and i ended up playing the game even more than him. We both tried to beat the game and gave each other hints what to do. I also remember reading through the Manual a million times. Especially for the story lore and the character bios.
My favorite version is the NES. I replayed this game many many times
I think a game this good could be fun on any platform! And the replay value is fantastic. I'm still convinced there's an ending I haven't seen yet.
@@SayItIsntJoe There's combo endings. Also, I got game genie codes that can change character sprites to the enemies, so those could be considered new endings to
@@RetroCheats I never tried the game genie on this one!
@@SayItIsntJoe because there were no good codes. I made them within the last few years
I only played MM on the nes for a very long time.
I loved this game and, this was before I had a guide or the internet to help with. Took me forever to beat.
Yeah the first time I played it I had no manual, so I definitely lost a lot before I got to the ending
My man, thank you for explaning about how its based on old horror movies from that period XD Alot of the people getting in to it and remaking / remastering it COMPLETELY forget about this fact and delete most of its tongue in cheek nature, by adding spooky atmospheric music or jumpscares. It's ment to be over the top and silly not spooky and slightly humouress :S It's like addams family meets the blob or something lol.
The humor is what kept me enjoying it over and over, to be sure!
I loved the nes version because of the music. Dave's theme playing when the game first start's is nostalgic for me. When I finally got to play the PC version which was included in Day of the Tentacle as an easter egg, I missed the music.
It's definitely one of the better parts of the game!! It only gets annoying when it keeps repeating while you're lost and frustrated 😆
I loved this game and was getting far until my mom threw out the code sheet for the security door. That was the end of that.
The real secret is never to play the arcade game at all, which means your score (which is the code) is still set at 0, so you can just enter that to get through every time.
im jumping on the subs, remember me when you get into 7 figures please! also i love this game and I had it on the Commodore Amiga 600!
Welcome to the family!! Hope you keep coming back :)
Graphics are almost too good nowadays.. i never thought I'd say that
Haha I feel you on that, especially when great graphics are on top of a mediocre story. I'd rather have ten pixels and a compelling plot than an amazing movie-like game with a dud of a story.
Kinda wish there was a fan translation of the Famicom version of Maniac Mansion since it looks so different from the NES and Computer versions
I both agree with you and am also glad there isn't one, because some of the graphics are just... like, creepy haha
@@SayItIsntJoe to me that's just more of a reason to play it lol
It’s funny you said you hate razors theme. That was my favorite one in the game. It’s actually my ringtone 😄
Haha I have strong opinions on things I'm wholly unqualified to have them on, so don't take my thoughts too seriously :)
@@SayItIsntJoe Not at all. I thought it was funny. 😄
That Maniac Mansion NES box you showed is pretty beefy.
Agreed, and I do remember some games coming in big boxes, but honestly when I got this game the first time, it was already used so I can't be sure what the original packaging was.
2:26 what is the music?
It's a song called Analogue Cabin by Noir Et Blanc Vie
Actually it was designed (and released) initially for C64, including the scumm engine
personally didnt care much for the "sequel" but i believe its very possible we may get another with the rise of remakes. Great video.
I just suscribed, greetings from México
Greetings and welcome to the channel!!
This game terrified me as a child. Looks like it's time to dust off my old MM cart and cause a nuclear meltdown!
1:25 Maniac Mansion came out for the Commodore 64 first and foremost in 1987 and was a HUGE accomplishment on a 64k machine.
I don't remember saying it wasn't a huge accomplishment, and you're right - the game was released for the Commodore 64 AND Apple II in October 1987, both of which were considered personal computers (confirmed by the first line of the Commodore's Wikipedia page). Also, there were 2 separate versions of the game created for the NES, one in Japan in 1988, and another in 1990. I was slightly wrong on the date. I don't like to nitpick though, I made the video to celebrate how rad the game was and still is, so we can hopefully agree on that.
Day Of The Tentacle shaped my childhood
I think we all have a Day of the Tentacle memory somewhere in our minds 😆
I never understood why they change the way the characters look for the Nintendo version. It seems strange…. I know Nintendo used to be very picky back in the day.
It does look like maybe they ported the game from the DOS version which seems backwards to me since the c64 GPU has the same instruction set, but who knows?
Yeah I don't know enough to be sure, but it's definitely interesting how different all the versions ended up looking visually. Just makes me want to play them all again!
This game is so awesome! Im also fond of the 2nd game day of the tentacle!
I definitely need to give that one another play!
Loved this game and it's sequel
This game made me a gamer for life!
I played on apple lle though
That's awesome! I think one of the coolest parts of these games is hearing the impact they had on folks later on. I'm glad you loved it like I did!
The music in this game was great
Man, you've got a cool voice!
Thank you!
Uhm, you said multiple times, this was originally a PC game, wonder where you got that from :-o . That is just not true. The original platform was the C64, and was released in 1987, as well as for Apple II. PC was already a port released a year later :) !
I believe both the Apple II and the Commodore 64 were home computers, i.e. PCs, but I think it all depends on how you refer to things. I'm no game scholar, just a game enthusiast!
@@SayItIsntJoe mmmh, they were personal computers, but already in the 80s the PC always means "IBM PC or compatible" with an Intel 8088/6 compatible CPU and running MS-DOS, which the c64 is far from 🙃
@Lofote Well, that's good to know, thanks for the info!
I have this on NES complete in box 😊
That's so rad!! Keep it safe, it's a very rare thing I think!
This game has many endings!
@RetroCheats tons of them! I never like to spoil a game too far, and I'm not sure I even saw all of them so there's still plenty for players to discover
HA! The Microwave Hamster game. How sadistic.
I avoided mentioning it but if you knew it then, you know it now! :)
more of this! Lucasarts for the win.
I'll do what I can!!
I actually like the look of the NES version of the PC version even though it has less detail. Though, I'm someone that generally never liked the look of 80's PC games as the colors always looked weird to me.
Never played Maniac Mansion, Sam & Max were my point and click starters, but I'd be remiss to not give Ron Gilbert his props for getting the ball rolling. funny thing about this is that I had a guide that came in an NES amgazine, so I read p on all the stuff that happened in the game and was intrigued... and very confused.
I think that's how a lot of us felt on the first play! But it's a classic for a reason, you should definitely give it a play (bonus points for Sam and max)
someow, maniac mansion aged better than monkey island 1, because the second half of monkey island 1 has significantly less polish, is more repetitive, and a more rushed story.
The significantly better visuals of monkey island 1 so not age as well overall.
I’ve never beat this game
It's a fun play even without winning, but since there are so many endings, it's worth another try!
nice
Thank you!
Sandy was so hot
Weird Ed is a grown man still living at home.
im about to turn 20 and ive just recently fallen in love with these games
That's awesome! I love finding out when new people discover how great games were back then
@@SayItIsntJoe I play mostly point and click adventures now
It's not and never was a big deal
Good review for a terribly overrated game, lol.
Haha thanks, it's certainly not everyone's favorite, but I enjoyed it!
Legend of Kage: Different screen, same music.
The fact that there was no symmetry to the cuts for the "planks" on the walls you have in your background still bother me to this day.
Its pixel art, it's definitely not perfect
One of my absolute favorites. I would love a remake.