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- This old Macintosh Classic was dead, never to boot again. So, Rich decided to see if he could restore Mac Classic and breathe new life into this once proud machine. Join Rich as he tears down and retrofits an icon from an era gone by and attempts to create something special from history. Learn how to do your own DIY Mac Classic restoration.
In this video, we disassemble an old classic Mac, designed and 3D printed an adapter to replace the old CRT with a new 10" LCD, integrated a Mac Mini into the internal frame of the Classic, modified the case to allow access to the newly installed Mac Mini, installed the LCD controller for the LCD display, and closed up the newly refurbished Mac Mini Classic. Lastly, we kicked our nostalgia into high gear with a classic MacOS emulator.
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PC companies should make mini versions of their old PC's for retrogaming, like how it's been done for consoles like the Nintendo NES/Famicom and the SEGA Mega Drive/Genesis. I just think it'd be really cool to be on a train and bust out your tiny IBM XT or Macintosh for some good ol' microsoft entertainment pack games.
The problem with Apple is they dont want to mess with Steve Jobs' ideas and whatever was built during his time at apple.
*Someone releases a mini IBM PS/2
Take my damn money!!!
There has been attempts to make mini retro pc's using industrial pc104 components but nothing to the consumer level
Great job guys, probably the best attempt I've seen so far!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Yo suprised to see ya here dude
Friend of mine has a project going on which involves exactly the same thing, nice that someone already made an adapter and everything for the display :) Thanks!
We love hearing this! Send us pictures of his completed project! We'd love to see it!
brilliant thinking and implementation, way to go bros! you got me fired up
They removed the best thing: the tube monitor.
Thank you loads for the 3D printer designs and the inspiration! I've now done my own conversion, but using an ipad3 9.7 inch 2048x1536 LCD, ipad to HDMI converter and an Intel NUC inside. It looks fantastic and running Basilisk II, it's a super fast 68k Mac :)
Join our discord and share the photos! We want to see it!
How did you get the iPad working as a display for your computer???
How did you take care of the overscan so you can see the whole image?
@@jargenbright The Intel NUC has Intel graphics drivers that let you add a border/manipulate the image as far as I can remember. It works well
I loved this solution!
Best MacClassic retrofit I've seen by far
This is a very impressive project, well done; I may probably have to do this as well someday!
Given the value of the Mac Mini, I'd also have probably used the 3D-printer to create a specially-fit bracket for just the Mac Mini, so as to epoxy said bracket to the metal frame, instead of directly on the Mac Mini; this would have us the option to remove the Mac Mini free of tear and cosmetic damage, for when needed.
Awesome job. That's a beauty.
So cool and thanks for the links. I have an original 1984 that I had gutted and stupidly wanted to turn into an aquarium. I was thinking of doing what you just did and your video will be most helpful. 👍😄
Wow, that looks really great! I'd love to try that out too someday.
Man. I'd love to do something like this. Love it
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The original monitor used in this video is no longer available, but we have confirmation that this one here: amzn.to/3P7LGW0 will work just as well! Special thank you to @ead0601 for the find!
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Do you sell the frame you printed by 3D printer ?
@@aminiboyisbruce Don't think so. You can find plenty of places online that will print and ship fairly cheap. Just had it done a few weeks ago
This! We recommend going this route. There are lots of companies that will custom print designs and do it affordably!
Just wondering what measurement for the lcd panel size? The link you attached seem not working .
Thanks guys for your 3D Bezel - it fits my Macintosh Classic II perfectly :)
Macintosh Classic was my first computer and this was really awesome,
this is a fun project and props for doing so. I believe too much epoxy was used as the mac mini will be glued permanently to the chassis. thanks for the video!
I have two of those! They both work flawlessly.
So jealous! Take good care of them!
Love this project. 😍
Veryyynice! subbed since you did the rgb noctua fan. you guys are awesome
Thank you! Really happy you enjoyed it!
Awesome!!!
Thank you!
You should finalize it by putting a CRT Magnifier on the LCD Screen, to make it look more Machintosh Classic.
This is soooooo cool, I want to do this!
Great project! How did you resolve the sound? Cheers!
This is genius! breathing life to old Mac boxes with modern kickass Mac Minis. The best part is getting the original mac software to be emulated for the retro experience simply awesome! Now if only we can get the old eWorld interface working again I'll be in Mac heaven! 🥰
You could also use very strong velcro to attach the Mac mini to the structure. Some of the latest velcro products are very very strong and hold lots of weight. Cool project!
Just did mine, used your 3D printed bezel, however for my floppy slot, I put a USB/SDCARD front facing module, had to shave it down to fit, but now it looks like it is naturally part of the machine.
I would *LOVE* to see your end result! Consider joining our discord and sharing photos of it!
Hello, Does anybody have the model of the monitor used? Amazon URL is not longer
This is awesome!!! I think I want one! :)
Honestly of all the ones I've seen yours is probably one of the cleaner ones.
Never have I hit subscribe so sooner after a video has started (yes, I'm an editor).
Even though I like the idea I was crying watching him gut the Mac Classic, even though the Classic 1 has a bunch of problems that will arise someday.
Believe me, I had MASSIVE plans to restore this system! I was heartbroken when I found that the CMOS battery had leaked and ate through the traces on the PCB. The damage to the mainboard and the massive rust to the supporting metal structure inside made it impossible to recover from.
@@2GuysTek another soldier lost to the crappy batteries. If you ever want a working Mac classic, get the Mac Classic 2 as it doesn’t have all the problems the classic 1 does.
This is so cool! I'm looking to start this project myself, but the link to the display is broken. What size display should I look for?
Hi, great reconstruction of the old MAC, can you tell me what monitor you used in this video, the link does not work? Thanks
GREAT JOB! Although I've never been a MAC user, I always wished Apple still made machines like the Classic/Plus,/SE...they still take up a smaller footprint than most Notebooks/Laptops
Amazing Job !
But I guess I am blind: where do you Put the power cable for the Display Out ? :O
It may have been missing from the video, sorry for that! We actually pass it through the opening in the back where the power cord plugged into the Mac. I had originally intended to create a barrel connector coupler in the back but ran out of time! Thanks for watching!
Greatest job guys 💪😂
Great job man! Have you considered moulding an acrylic sheet using the old CRT to get the curvature right and put it in front of the LCD? Can you share the tweaks to make it 4:3 on a wide screen?
That’s a fantastic idea! Regarding the 4:3, it was much easier than you might expect. The LCD doesn’t stretch low resolutions across the full screen, so just setting the resolution to 1024x768 creates the perfect 4:3 to fit! Thanks for watching!
@@2GuysTek Not sure what I'm doing wrong, or if the linked monitor has changed from the one you purchased, but when I switch to 1024x768 (hooking up HDMI direct to MacMini) it goes past both sides.
What is the native resolution of the display you bought? It’s possible it’s a different or updated product.
@@2GuysTek 1280x800, but as I was typing that I realized that I was setting the resolution to 1024x640. The displayed Display Resolutions were only 1280x800 and 1024x640. Forgot all about showing all possible resolutions... and there it is, 1024x768! Thanks for jogging my memory 😉
So awesome guys!!!! Really amazing. I wanna do this. Any chance you have the model number of that monitor... I would love to purchase the same one?!?
One of the coolest things I’ve seen in a while. Great vid!
very nicely done! I usually don't support cutting holes into classic macs, but since this one a) isn't that rare and b) was already toasted, I feel like this is the best thing that could have happened to it
Glad you liked it! We would have preferred it be a working classic Mac myself, but we tried to keep the spirit alive with it. Thanks for watching!
@2GuysTek - fantastic video! I actually have an old Macintosh Color Classic, and I've commissioned someone to pull out the old innards and place a Mac mini inside with a 8" LCD, it was working flawless, but due to the poor job of the person I hired to complete this project, everything came apart. But watching your video gave me new ideas to do the project myself. And thanks for the tip on "Sheepskin" I can't wait to use this in 2022 in the mist of M1 Macs and 4k monitors. Retro tech is cool and some of the best innovations was the retro tech, at least in my opinion. I'll find a way to secure my Mac mini but I will not glue it because I would like to swap it out for a M1 Mac mini, so eventually my Mac will me a "Macintosh M1 Mac".
Brilliant Mod…. I was thinking to do the same with a SE30? Do yo sell on the screen bezel and stand-off pillars? Also did you try to put a usb CD drive?
Chris in Ireland
Thanks for the comment! I don't see the bezel, but I give the STL (the 3D-printable file) away for free! You can send the file off to any number of 3D-printing service sites on the 'Net and get it that way. And I'm guessing you're talking about the floppy drive, that'd have been a great idea! Shoulda done that!
I’m thinking of doing something similar with an iMac g3, how did you measure the adapter for the screen?
With a ruler and a caliper to get as close to exact measurements as possible. For the full heigh of the curve that was more complicated. We attempted at first to use the caliper to get as close to the peak of the arch as possible and then test printed a few times to get it exact. It took a few test prints to get the exact height.
@@2GuysTek Thanks!
Did you get a 16:9 monitor? And how did you get the OS to display the whole picture in the viewable part of the LCD? Overscan?
The LCD display was 16:9, 1080p. The trick to making it work is that the monitor does not scale lower resolutions, so we set the resolution to 1024x768 (4:3) and the display crops the image leaving black bars on the sides and fits perfectly through the CRT opening.
I wonder if it's possible to do this same type of build with the original CRT and more compact internals, like if I put a Raspberry Pi or the internals from something like an Intel NUC into this.
As long as you have a means of converting the digital interface of the Pi or a NUC to something that can drive an old tube, why not? It'd be hard, but not impossible!
Could it be that the monitor you guys used is not available on Amazon anymore? The one in the video looks slightly different from the one on Amazon? I am replicating your project and need the display.
I had my experiment System 4.0 whole through number without miss until now MacOS 11. also Mac Plus my own and lost it.
How did you make the 10inch render in 4:3, let alone not get cut off by the edges of the screen. I keep having this problem and Have to resort to a smaller LCD.
The LCD we chose was a 16:9, but when the resolution was set to 1024x768, it didn't stretch the 4:3 over the 16:9, so it was perfect for the Classic Mac's opening.
@@2GuysTek Do you have a specific make and model number? I'm looking for one with auto sleep mode since I Cant have the LCD controller board blocking the DVD rom slot I made.
I am also doing a similar project. Was looking for the LCD on Amazon but link was not working. Given that the Classic 9" 4:3 is about 7.2"x5.4" : a 10" 16:10 would be 8.5"x5.3". The 16:9 would have a height of 4.9", so I think the 16:10 would be best. Given that the height will be the rate limiting factor, since the width will compensate with bars in 1024x768 4:3 mode to fit to the ratio. I am looking at cutting my old tube instead of using a 3D printed insert. Thanks for the video
Be very careful when you attempt to cut that tube! (and send us pictures when your build is complete!)
The display is a Toguard WR952, if you set the video resolution to 4k you can zoom in and see the model number. It's no longer listed on Amazon, but it appears Toguard sells it through their site. There are other screens on Amazon that appear virtually identical. There is an Eyoyo screen with a connector panel on the back that looks identical to the Toguard except it doesn't have a USB port, though the other connectors are in the same location. It's also a 10.1", 1280x800 resolution. A lot of identical electronics seem to get rebranded and sold under different names.
You’re absolutely correct!
There is no link for the monitor. What model and size did you use?
We've found a replacement that works, if you're still looking for it: amzn.to/3P7LGW0
I know nothing about 3D programs or printers, but how difficult would it be to add tabs to the corners so as not to need to epoxy it to the front?
It would be possible but you'd have to find some way to secure the tabs.
@@2GuysTek What I was thinking was extra in each corner that could then be drilled to accommodate the monitor clips into the stock holes
That could be done. You'd need to get longer screws to accommodate the increased thickness of the material, but that's not too hard to find.
Hi, the project is just awesome and I'm doing it right now, we had the same idea haha. Just how did you go about changing the screen resolution? in any case bravo to you
Thank you! We just set the resolution to 1024x768 on our Mac Mini and the LCD display we chose doesn't stretch the display leaving the necessary black bars on the left and right! Best of luck! We wanna see what you come up with!
Looks good, thanks.
Monitor unavailable, could you specify size brand and type
That was awesome. Good job.
I'm a PC guy but that is badass! ...ps I've got a WORKING old Mac Classic that I rescued from my college English lab giveaway table back in '98 :)
Treasure that thing! It’s a classic! Thanks for the comment!
monitor link is broken, can you tell the maker and model so we can search it?
Cool music!
Just in the middle of doing my version of this. Do you have the model of the screen? The link in the description isn’t working anymore? :( thank you
Thanks for reaching out! I did a quick search on Amazon to see if I could find something that is similar to that original display we used and I came across this: amzn.to/3zow5I6 This looks very similar to the one we used in the video - just in a different package, but I can’t guarantee anything. It’s likely you’ll have to do some improvising to make it work, but it should work. I hope that helps and best of luck! If you do end up building one send us some photos, we’d love to see your creation!
@@2GuysTek Ironically, I actually have one of these screens lying around at my home! The same as the one you use. So that fixes that issue. I for sure, once I have this thing up and running I will let you know. I am using an SE, and it has been a dream of mine to make a little retro powerhouse, that can also be used as a Mac, will let you know how it goes :) and thanks for responding too!
@@MeanMachineDean how did it go??
Hi! Nice work! But why do you choose an 10.1 instead a 9 inch LCD? What resolution do you use? I am planning this project with a Raspberry Pi (RetroPie). There is no need th place so much stuff inside ;-) Keep going!
Thanks for question! The simple reason was I couldn't find a 9" LCD for the project! The smallest display I could find (and was affordable) was the 10.1 and unfortunately was widescreen and not 4:3, which would have been the best fit. We used 1024x786 which is a 4:3 aspect ratio and fit edge-to-edge of the opening of the mac. Thanks for watching!
@@2GuysTek PiMoroni has an 8" LCD in 4:3 which I used in my Classic conversion for my Pi. The last step was finding someone who created the bezel adapter, and you GUYS ROCK. I cannot wait to try this out. Here's the link to the screen: shop.pimoroni.com/products/hdmi-8-lcd-screen-kit-1024x768
Cool I want it💕💕
Simply gorgeous, if ever you need room, you might considere a... giveaway...? lol
I really like how this is done, in my case I'm taking a 1993 Apple IIe platinum and throwing a Raspberry Pi in it complete with USB, Ethernet, HDMI,Wifi, Bluetooth, (and just for the hell of it) Parallel and Serial along with a Game/Midi port.
Nice! Send pics when you get it done!
@@2GuysTek Will do. as for the OS of choice it's going to be ApplePIOS. an Apple IIe brought into the 21st century. and I may have to build an adaptor for the DB15 serial port that Apple used for their 5.25 Floppy drives.
That sound great!
@@2GuysTek so an update for you guys, I've made some progress on the project so far and I've factored in that I'm going to need some front cooling so I decided to grab a couple of cooler master fans (5 volts since that what the pi would need) as they would sit underneath the USB keyboard that I have taped ontop of the case I've also thought about throwing in some Thunderbolt 2 since I figured Apple use to use that before using I think Thunderbolt 3.
as far as compatibility goes, I already got a M0100 mouse to USB which is going to sit in the same spot that it would back in the day, I'm also going to install a USB sound card for mic and line out. and wire up the internal speaker as well. as far as the 5 1/4 drives go well I'd have to build an adapter going from the DB19 (Yeah for some reason that's what Apple used) to the more useful DB9 (which is what you'd find on PC's now a days). for a second drive I'm going with Compact flash in case the micro SD card isn't big enough.
Thank you for the update! You should consider joining our discord and sharing some photos, we’d love to see it!
Great work. Very fun watch. May have been the first Mac I ever used. Circa 1992 with OS 6.
With the capacity and capabilities of 3D printing would it be easier to build a 3D model of what would work for the Mac Mini, display (OLED in the future?) and leave classic Mac as they are?
It all works, just wondering.
Great work, look forward to more
Yes! However, you'd likely struggle to have a home 3D printer be large enough to produce the big parts of the case - course that's a solvable. I really wished I could have kept the classic as a _real_ classic, but that leaking battery and time had different plans. Thanks for the comment!
@@2GuysTek Thanks for the reply. :D
How may I purchase the 3D Bezel Adaptor etc.? I'm 80 years old and do not have your skills. Tnx
Reach out to us at our contact email address and we'll see what we can do for you.
What resolution do you put the screen to?
1024x768
@@2GuysTek thanks! I’m working on my build atm! I’m retrobriting it first but I’m gonna mount a M2 Mac Mini with a 3D printed scaffolding on the side cause I have a Macintosh Classic II and it has the side port features on the right side of the back of the case where I can fit the mini!
@@2GuysTek also do you use any special software to get it into that resolution or is that one of the default Mac resolutions?
Cleanest retrofit I've ever seen of a Classic Mac. Congratulations!
Thank you and thank you for watching!
I want one!!!!
Have you guys still got that motheroard crt and the other insides ?
Just the CRT itself. The motherboard was extremely damaged by the leaking CMOS clock battery.
@@2GuysTek still tough even that is sometimes fixable / useful for some parts
2GuysTek I am receiving a Macintosh Classic soon. Should I replace the battery inside?
@@suprshindefinetly
SBD yes, those little batteries are nasty when they age. Pop it open and pull it ASAP.
Very nice, but I do like the old classic. I broke the monitor conviction of mine sadly
Great Job Guys!!!
Thanks for watching!
I sooo wanna do this to my old Mackintosh plus…I don’t know if I dare tho…
If we can do it, you can do it! (Just send us pics when you’re done!)
Love this!
Do you have the adapter model? I'd love to have one printed and repeat this project (with an older mac mini though!).
Update - dumbass here forgot to view you 3D model library. Never mind! Great work though.
It's all good! Good luck with your build! Send us pics!
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very cool!! I tried to do the same thing with my mac classic but i couldnt work out how to fix the screen res. a fair bit of the display was hidden behind the housing. did you have the same issue with this screen? if so id love to know how you got around it.
Try changing your resolution to 1024x768. Our display didn’t stretch resolutions, so when set to a 4:3 resolution, the display fit perfectly.
@@2GuysTek Thank you. Ill give it a try
Hello, the link for the monitor is not working
Did you get the monitor type? I dont have it neither
Flying Toasters! You nailed it! Way to show homage to such a cool project
Glad you liked it! When I was building the whole project I was reminiscing about all old software and I knew I had to find flying toasters! Afterdark was the best!
oooof it was to permeant, could you not have used a velcro system?
Great work!
Thanks for watching!
Hi guys, it's not clear: how to connect led in front panel - how to connect power of lcd monitor - for the rest the project is really cool
That's for the question! The LCD front panel of our display has a cable lead that connected it to the controller board for the display. The buttons for controlling the display were on a separate board we relocated to the open slot that used to house the floppy disk drive.
Power for the display was just rerouted through an opening in the back and connected directly to the display's controller board using the existing barrel connector. Hope this helps! Best of luck!
my dream machine is still a Mac Quadra 950
You're speaking my language! I loved the Quadras and Centris products! -R
@@2GuysTek not really familiar with Centris, was disappointed to learn Mac abandoned SCSI for IDE and Motorola for Intel
@@davidpackham7459 Apple abandoned their entire Motorola/IBM product line entirely after the G5 fiasco that almost cost them their powerbook market? The G5 processor ran far to hot and used far to much power to ever be adapted for laptop use. Back then and even now their powerbook sales far outstrip their desktop sales market by a significant margin. It was adopt the defacto intel industry standard or die. Simples!
not bad
Two things here! Retrobrite that puppy and place some C section trim around that crudely hacked out i/o backplate or at the very least file and sand it until its perfectly symetrical otherwise its all good!
Thanks for the comment! These are great suggestions!
@@2GuysTek Still did a better job with that coping saw blade than most people do with Dremel anyday! :D
Although today's laptops by apple are more powerful and probably more convenient cause you can lug them around everywhere, Apple should give serious consideration to reviving the Mac Classic's aesthetically pleasing ,space-saving, compact, unibody design but just put ultra modern guts inside the thing. I bet you there would be a lot of people that would buy one. Apple's desktop computers have kept on taking up more space and now the time is about right for a counter-reaction in terms of trying to get it to shrink. Of course the mac mini is the ultimate spacesaver, but it's not truly an all-in-one solution as you still have to buy everything for it--monitor, keyboard, mouse etc.
Dang, a brain transplant - that's kind of macabre
It's now Smart, Stronger, and Faster though!
Figured you'd take the glass from the monitor, clean it up inside and out ,and mount that so you have a shield for the monitor. Also.... you just plopped the aluminum case in no modding no nothing.
Still a neat thing you did but 'huh i can see touches where it could be better? Maybe? If I'm not wholly wrong.'
I debated doing something with the CRT, but in the end I decided against it because it’s a vacuum-sealed glass tube and the risk of that shattering wasn’t worth it.
@@2GuysTek Fair. Maybe make a mold of it and do somethign there?
Either way. Interesting. I take it you had to futz with the monitor's resolutions to have it display something that wouldn't go over the edges of theviewable area?
Yep. The monitor was a native 1080p display, but the aspect ratio of the opening is 4:3, so we ran the display at 1024x768.
Too much epoxy going on here, you could make adapters to better fit components so if you ever feel like working on it again in the future, like upgrading it, you could do so without thrashing it worse.
This is not ""Breathe new life into a classic".You just use it's case! You just use it's case! You just use it's case! You just use it's case!
"Epoxy" "Epoxy" "Epoxy" "Epoxy" "Epoxy" "Epoxy"
Lets get to it.
Yeah, that was what I didn't like on this project. Way too much epoxying parts in. If he could dismantle the monitor, he could have dismantled the Mac mini as well, and made proper stand offs for the system board.
Why didn't you just 3D print some braces for the Mini?
My man just unplugged the CRT tube with his hands, he could've killed himself if it was charged
Rest assured we discharged the tube before we pulled it apart.
Hey there! Really like this project! I love how you used an actual Mac Mini and not a Windows PC. If you ever do another cool project like this, try to see if you can try and keep the CRT display and not an LCD.
I would loved to have kept the CRT! Unfortunately it takes up SO MUCH SPACE inside of the case that it would have been much harder to get it, and the PSU, and another PC inside. Thanks for watching!
please sell me this one
Great Mod Guys I Would Have Used Velcro instead of Epoxy On the Mac Mini But Just My Option. Check out my channel on my Frankin/MacSE30 project which is still ongoing But Great Job Guys
I wanna stuff a tablet inside and thats it lol
Techmoan put an iPad in one in 2010
It'd be a long way off, but If I paid you, would you be willing to make one of these for me?
Thanks for the question, but we're not equipped to make these unfortunately.
@@2GuysTek ok thanks for the reply. Do you know of anyone who would be able to make something like this?
I might, lemme see if they're still doing things like this and I'll ping you back.
One part of be is disgusted that you'd destroy a piece of history like that, but the other part of me totally wants to do that to my Classic as well xD Especially if it looks like an unmodified Classic at first glance
Believe me, if it didn’t have a dead main board I would have totally refurbished it and left it stock.
2GuysTek Exactly which is why I’m not super butthurt. It turned out well, and if I ever find a broken one, I’d totally do that myself! Also you should upload the schematic for the bezel adapter you printed out
Here it is! www.thingiverse.com/thing:3551263
Not sure that a Mac Classic is worth much, even comparing it to other AIO Macs before or after. The case, though, that's another story, and I'm glad it was preserved that well. All that's missing is an ADB keyboard and mouse (converted to USB?)
@@esseferio Agree. They're incredibly common and if purists were so interested, they'd buy them up in an instant when they see them sitting for sale on buy/sell boards for months. I do these types of conversions and it's much better to see the cases restored and used for every day use, rather than gathering dust.
(I preserve the internals and offer them for sale in MacEffects transparent cases on custom order.)
I know what to do now with my 10 inch netbook...
Yes! And send pics!
Gratis you'll no get that into a netbook laddie! 😂😂😂
I am so jealous you guys have to be the luckiest to have a piece of a classic with todays modern power and still old time flare. nothing beats a classic!! Great job (Oh and if I see this on ebay, i’m buying straight to cart) 🎉🏆🎯📺🔋💻💾