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Got my hera II today, made in 02/2024. There is no sign of the action failing to deploy. Blade flies out, this is miles better than older microtechs. Also fullers are centered, and equally long.
The bounce happens when you engage the switch before the blade resets. Happened once to my gen 3 C.T. after I controlled my thumb, it stopped happening.
I just bought mine and had this issue about every 20 retractions, was about to send it back, but I use very thin silicon oil and compress air and it hasn’t failed in quite a while, this might be a solution.
I appreciate that you point out issues on otherwise reliable knives, like this bounce the Hera II has. From your discussion, it seems like you didn't - or haven't - contacted Microtech directly about the problem. If you haven't, why not? I imagine someone from Microtech watches your content when you review their products, but it seems like contacting them directly is the only way to _be certain_ that they're aware of the problem and take steps to fix it.
I wanted to report on an issue I was having especially after learning that many others are experiencing the same. As I stated, I have no doubt microtech would take care of the issue if I contacted them. These reviews are meant as a community service. The best way to make sure these things are looked into is to report them to the community.
@@metal_complex Surely the best way to ensure a company isn't regularly delivering an inferior product to consumers, is to use your influence and stunning good looks, and contact them about it? Especially before someone inside or outside this community isn't quite} ppaying attention, and stabs themselves in the leg, whilst returning their knife to their pocket? How can you be sure Microtech will correct it and return the knife for free, when you haven't contacted them to see if they even know about this dangerous reoccurring issue? They sent out the knife like this in the first place, so they surely must not know (or care) about it! Apologies if I come off abrasive in this reply. 🤍🕊️
@@metal_complex Surely the best way to ensure Microtech isn't regularly delivering an inferior product, is to use one's influence and rugged good looks, and contact them _directly_ about it? Especially before someone isn't quite paying attention, doesn't expect their knife to bite, and stabs themselves in the femoral artery whilst returning their knife to their pocket. How can one be completely confident Microtech will correct it, and return the repaired knife for free under warranty, when no one may have contacted them, to see if they'd honour repairing this fault under their warranty? My apologies if I come off as abrasive, it's unintended, and I'm simply jealous of your local government's lack of hoplophobia. ☺️
My new ultra tech bounces one in 20 right out the box… total bummer. Just sent it back for in store credit. Looks like I’m going to replace with the combat T.. like the idea of the scarab being able to deploy in water. Great video. Big help
I did exactly the same back in 2019 lol. Had issues with an ultratech, and returned it for a Combat Troodon dated 11/2018. Haven't regretted it for a second!
Ordered my first OTF after watching this video decided to go with the Dirac but i know this will just be the gateway to a much larger obsession ( uhh umm ) i mean collection.😊
@@sprinkleddonuts6094I have a hera 2 I'd say it has blade play for sure but any otf will have it. That being said my microtech makora has less blade play than my hera 2
I've been holding out for a "2024" version of the dirac or dirac delta lol I've just been wanting a front switch otf lately for some reason and if they redid the diracs it would be absolutely perfect! I love my ultra techs, i have 2 of them, but am really hoping they revise the diracs soon so i can get one of them. If they don't redo the diracs I'll likely cave anyway and just get one of the older ones to satisfy my front switch lust 😂 great video btw, sorry i tend to ramble!
I embrace softer heat treats but also appreciate harder heat treats. I carry a Microtech OTF and a 5 year ild large Inkosi (I own the MagnaCut S45 versions as well). Microtech’s M390 and Chris Reeve’s older S35VN is somewhat soft - you have to sharpen more but it’s easy and it’s very tough - little trade offs!
My Brand new Scarab 2 gen 3 has the same bounce back issue. I applied some rem oil which helped dramatically as well as actuating it over 500 times. There also seems to be some correlation between it sitting without being deployed for a while…….. my Glykon has had zero failures 🤷🏻♂️
@@kev8370it doesn’t have one on it, but I know it’s the newest batch as it doesn’t have the blood grove on top. Also, as an update, I tore it down using the Microtech video tutorial and one of the blade springs was upside down lmao ! From the factory 😅……. Anyways, flipped it over and now it works great 😂
If ~59HRC increases toughness significantly, I totally understand that on a dagger blade. Their other knives need to be on the higher end of the Bohler recommended 60 to 62 HRC average.
On the fence between this or the Glykon, which would be best for edc, and carrying? I don’t mind the size of the Hera ii but I feel like the glykon is a sweet spot for blade/cutting length
So Microtech With the Hera II you may yourself TAKE IT APART… but NOT the 4 tension screws on the inside. The 4 tension screws has certain tension and tolerances that they will know if you adjusted. Edit: permatech white lithium grease, and either Remington Oil, or Heretic OTF Lube. Take it apart clean it up, and it ONLY needs very very very little lube, and spread the white lithium grease with toothpick on the springs.
Just got my Hera mini 2 in. My first microtech OTF, the blade grind on the pocket clip side is off so the tip looks like it’s slightly crooked. And on the 4th deployment the blade did the bounce back thing. At first i didn’t know what happend but now after watching this it was the bounce back. Disappointing.
For the price id say your right but I'll play devils advacte maybe they have to get a certain # of blades b4 replacing there cnc tooling to stay at that price point. You should reach out to them and find out what there acceptable tolerances are
Ok MC, I’m looking to pull the trigger and finally get an OTF. it’ll be for EDC. Of course, nothing crazy for cutting. Just day to day tasks. I’m leaning Guardian Tactical 035. Any info you have or recommendations would be much appreciated.
I picked up a mini Hera recently and it’s been super impressive. UTX-85 use to be my fave edc friendly OTF and the action on the mini Hera is just awesome.
I'm not the biggest fan of microtech but I will come to their defence a little on one point. While they should definitely get the firing mechanism fixed and raise the HT I can understand why the fullers may be a little off on some knives. Being production knives means they have to churn them out quickly and, as a finisher who works in a paint booth, I can tell you that the difference in time and effort between something that's almost perfect and something that's flawless can be big. So it may not be cost or time effective to get them perfectly centered every single time. But I wouldn't look down on anyone for returning it if it bothered them.
I sold my Hera and got the Scarab 2 Gen 3 instead. The Hera had issues failing on retraction and was really loud, bummer cause I really liked the screwless design and the feel of it. The Scarab is still loud but heard you can grease the springs to quiet them down a bit. Good review, glad they don't all have the issues mine had. Really impressed with the action on the new ones.
@@metal_complex You're forgetting Heretic. I really dig my Cleric II and Manticore X. In fact, these new MT models really remind me of the latter, which is a great looking OTF with softer button action and a powerful throw.
Hey man thanks for this review. Just got the mini hera and I love it so deciding if I need this or maybe gen 3 scarab or Anax next. I wanna say, gen 3 combat troodon isn’t perfect either; mine has failed to either fully fire(once) or failed to fully retract(also once) I believe due to dirtiness and quick build up of lint and grossness in my pocket. A little drop of oil and tic and she hasn’t failed yet. Had it since December and only those 2 little failures which hasn’t put me off from EDC for last stand defense. I still trust her lol. Bad mf knife. I love the ct
You know I’ve really been thinking when I bought my first microtech the microtech combat troodon why I spent with tax and shipping 600 dollars on blade hq when this one and newer combat troodon are for some reason way cheaper with all these upgrades involved and since you were pointing out how it had m390MK I feel like besides the upgrades and how they kinda redesigned the Hera and the combat troodon I feel like the reason why they are both cheaper is because of the steel because the Hera 2 is like 475 and the combat troodon gen 3 is around 450 ish so i for sure think that it’s the steel so that’s how they cut down in price because mine is just m390 and from what you were saying the m390 MK is much more softer compared to the standard m390 and I feel like that’s why there both low in price compared to the older ones because of the steel differences and especially since it’s microtechs m390 but that’s just a guess I can be wrong also I have my doubts getting it because it is new and mostly all the other models like the old gen combat trooden were proven so I have my Doubts buying one of these new ones but it is microtech I’m sure you can throw anything at it but I still have a slight doubt because this is a new design I think I might just buy this Protech tr3 since I never owned a Protech and I really want a ots for edc
About that bounce. I've handled every new Microtech's OTF (besides Mini Hera) and each and every one of them fires perfectly without bouncing. Except for Hera. When I was trying to record a video for my channel, it bounced 2 times and I had to refilm.
If you're gonna spend $400+ on a knife, it should be heat treated properly. microtech has always had issues of heat treating their knives to the appropriate hrc and I don't want to hear the toughness argument m390 is meant for edge retention and rust resistance not toughness if you want a tough steel with the same edge retention use m4 or cru wear
@@ericsierra-franco7802 How sharp was yours? My Cleric II was dull out of the box, had to pay to send it back to Heretic under warranty and it STILL came back dull. Won’t even cut paper. Kinda pissed for a $700 otf.
The button ease carries down to the smaller models as well. I recently got a Hera II Mini and it is so smooth and easy. Comparing it to my Maticore S is night and day.
They could have reduced the force and still feel the same Think about shot guns you take a really light one and a heavy one shoot the same load and see what one kicks more
I got the cypher and a gt scout at the same time. Love em. However I do find myself with my heretic colossus alot. Gotta say my 2022 makora almost sounds sexual still makes my knees weak.
@@metal_complex It deserves the selling price of 400*500$, but in Turkey it is necessary to work for 1 month to pay this money, so I said that the price between 100*200$ is more suitable.
My first Microtech failed on 2nd deployment. Was somewhat usable after some maintenance, but hard to deploy still. My second Microtech otf is so hard to deploy it can't be deployed more than twice. Its so hard to deploy my skin would tear from my nail. 👎 Microtech otf's suck, horribly overpriced and QC is terrible. Don't buy them.
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Look at the disassembly, it's interesting! Love the screwless design!
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as an avid knife collector ever since i was a kid but cant afford ones of this quality ty so much for shareing them with us
I got to handle the new Microtech Atreus at the Fort Worth Blade Show. Oh baby! Cannot wait to get one of my own. 😍
The information packet that comes in the box states that taking it apart to maintenance it will not automatically void the warranty
I love Microtech, but in my opinion that is the only thing that they need to improve is their heat treatment... 57 & 58 hrc m390 is not good!
Yea if they are running it that soft they Def need to change it to 60 or 61
Wtf you on about??? Go watch their in house videos their M390 is 60 - 62 HRC
Got my hera II today, made in 02/2024. There is no sign of the action failing to deploy. Blade flies out, this is miles better than older microtechs. Also fullers are centered, and equally long.
I just got one , it’s so buttery smooth
The bounce happens when you engage the switch before the blade resets. Happened once to my gen 3 C.T. after I controlled my thumb, it stopped happening.
I just bought mine and had this issue about every 20 retractions, was about to send it back, but I use very thin silicon oil and compress air and it hasn’t failed in quite a while, this might be a solution.
I appreciate that you point out issues on otherwise reliable knives, like this bounce the Hera II has. From your discussion, it seems like you didn't - or haven't - contacted Microtech directly about the problem. If you haven't, why not? I imagine someone from Microtech watches your content when you review their products, but it seems like contacting them directly is the only way to _be certain_ that they're aware of the problem and take steps to fix it.
I wanted to report on an issue I was having especially after learning that many others are experiencing the same. As I stated, I have no doubt microtech would take care of the issue if I contacted them. These reviews are meant as a community service. The best way to make sure these things are looked into is to report them to the community.
@@metal_complex Surely the best way to ensure a company isn't regularly delivering an inferior product to consumers, is to use your influence and stunning good looks, and contact them about it? Especially before someone inside or outside this community isn't quite} ppaying attention, and stabs themselves in the leg, whilst returning their knife to their pocket?
How can you be sure Microtech will correct it and return the knife for free, when you haven't contacted them to see if they even know about this dangerous reoccurring issue?
They sent out the knife like this in the first place, so they surely must not know (or care) about it!
Apologies if I come off abrasive in this reply. 🤍🕊️
@@metal_complex Surely the best way to ensure Microtech isn't regularly delivering an inferior product, is to use one's influence and rugged good looks, and contact them _directly_ about it? Especially before someone isn't quite paying attention, doesn't expect their knife to bite, and stabs themselves in the femoral artery whilst returning their knife to their pocket.
How can one be completely confident Microtech will correct it, and return the repaired knife for free under warranty, when no one may have contacted them, to see if they'd honour repairing this fault under their warranty?
My apologies if I come off as abrasive, it's unintended, and I'm simply jealous of your local government's lack of hoplophobia. ☺️
My new ultra tech bounces one in 20 right out the box… total bummer. Just sent it back for in store credit. Looks like I’m going to replace with the combat T.. like the idea of the scarab being able to deploy in water. Great video. Big help
I did exactly the same back in 2019 lol. Had issues with an ultratech, and returned it for a Combat Troodon dated 11/2018.
Haven't regretted it for a second!
Ordered my first OTF after watching this video decided to go with the Dirac but i know this will just be the gateway to a much larger obsession ( uhh umm ) i mean collection.😊
Yea I just got the natural aluminum version from EKnives and I love it!!
What about blade play? It is tue one i want too
@@sprinkleddonuts6094I have a hera 2 I'd say it has blade play for sure but any otf will have it. That being said my microtech makora has less blade play than my hera 2
I've been holding out for a "2024" version of the dirac or dirac delta lol I've just been wanting a front switch otf lately for some reason and if they redid the diracs it would be absolutely perfect! I love my ultra techs, i have 2 of them, but am really hoping they revise the diracs soon so i can get one of them. If they don't redo the diracs I'll likely cave anyway and just get one of the older ones to satisfy my front switch lust 😂 great video btw, sorry i tend to ramble!
I also want the new easy open with a front switch. That would be perfect
I embrace softer heat treats but also appreciate harder heat treats. I carry a Microtech OTF and a 5 year ild large Inkosi (I own the MagnaCut S45 versions as well). Microtech’s M390 and Chris Reeve’s older S35VN is somewhat soft - you have to sharpen more but it’s easy and it’s very tough - little trade offs!
Love the video. How does this compare to the Maxace Neptune? Besides the price.
My Brand new Scarab 2 gen 3 has the same bounce back issue. I applied some rem oil which helped dramatically as well as actuating it over 500 times. There also seems to be some correlation between it sitting without being deployed for a while…….. my Glykon has had zero failures 🤷🏻♂️
What is the production date for your Scarab?
@@kev8370it doesn’t have one on it, but I know it’s the newest batch as it doesn’t have the blood grove on top. Also, as an update, I tore it down using the Microtech video tutorial and one of the blade springs was upside down lmao ! From the factory 😅……. Anyways, flipped it over and now it works great 😂
If ~59HRC increases toughness significantly, I totally understand that on a dagger blade. Their other knives need to be on the higher end of the Bohler recommended 60 to 62 HRC average.
On the fence between this or the Glykon, which would be best for edc, and carrying? I don’t mind the size of the Hera ii but I feel like the glykon is a sweet spot for blade/cutting length
Do you prefer the microtech OTF blade deploy button on the top or side of the frame? Does it make a difference?
How the button feels on deployment depends on the model. As for the button location i dont think it makes any difference besides preferencez
So Microtech With the Hera II you may yourself TAKE IT APART… but NOT the 4 tension screws on the inside.
The 4 tension screws has certain tension and tolerances that they will know if you adjusted.
Edit: permatech white lithium grease, and either Remington Oil, or Heretic OTF Lube. Take it apart clean it up, and it ONLY needs very very very little lube, and spread the white lithium grease with toothpick on the springs.
I was fully expecting to you to open this knife up and show the quality and robustness of the internal action.
Beautiful knife, great vídeo😻; my Ultratech from 2023, sometimes do the bounce thing, not q big deal but its annoying anyway
bought a scarab 2 gen 3 that was failing to deploy like 1/5 out of the box. major bummer for a $500 knife.
How’s the thickness of the Hera vs the new Combat Troodan? I’m debating between the two.
You even get either im in the same boat
Thanks again MC for more quality content! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
I have a proof run herra 2 and it has bounce back,bad 😢
I was going to get the Hera mini, but like you said that almost defeats the purpose of the otf. You can pack a big blade very easily.
The mini hera 2 is fast. A really light weight pocket knife. Really sharp too.
I am torn between the Combat Troodon and the Hara II the only thing stopping me is the HRC.
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Get a Heretic Manticore-X in Magnacut. You won't be disappointed.
28:55 its an art to place all knifes diffrent ....so we cant see the size vs
Just got my Hera mini 2 in. My first microtech OTF, the blade grind on the pocket clip side is off so the tip looks like it’s slightly crooked. And on the 4th deployment the blade did the bounce back thing. At first i didn’t know what happend but now after watching this it was the bounce back. Disappointing.
For the price id say your right but I'll play devils advacte maybe they have to get a certain # of blades b4 replacing there cnc tooling to stay at that price point. You should reach out to them and find out what there acceptable tolerances are
Ok MC, I’m looking to pull the trigger and finally get an OTF. it’ll be for EDC. Of course, nothing crazy for cutting. Just day to day tasks. I’m leaning Guardian Tactical 035. Any info you have or recommendations would be much appreciated.
Cypher 2 is perfect for edc cutting
I picked up a mini Hera recently and it’s been super impressive. UTX-85 use to be my fave edc friendly OTF and the action on the mini Hera is just awesome.
I have the new combat trooden, and it's amazing. Does the glykon have the new firing system? I would definitely get one if it did.
I’ve been trying to find out the same thing.
Don't think it does
I'm not the biggest fan of microtech but I will come to their defence a little on one point. While they should definitely get the firing mechanism fixed and raise the HT I can understand why the fullers may be a little off on some knives. Being production knives means they have to churn them out quickly and, as a finisher who works in a paint booth, I can tell you that the difference in time and effort between something that's almost perfect and something that's flawless can be big. So it may not be cost or time effective to get them perfectly centered every single time. But I wouldn't look down on anyone for returning it if it bothered them.
I sold my Hera and got the Scarab 2 Gen 3 instead. The Hera had issues failing on retraction and was really loud, bummer cause I really liked the screwless design and the feel of it.
The Scarab is still loud but heard you can grease the springs to quiet them down a bit. Good review, glad they don't all have the issues mine had. Really impressed with the action on the new ones.
Can't wait to see it in the s/e version of it
Should I buy this or a benchmade otf?
I was going to ask you which Benchmade otf, but imo there isn’t any Benchmade otf comparable to the new generation of Microtech otfs.
I would go Microtech, mostly because they make a better overall otf experience
You shouldn't buy any Benchmade OTF imo. Overpriced for what they are. Vespa Clones are made better lol
Buy the new combat Troodon. Benchmade OTFs just aren't very good.
Microtech, Guardian Tactical, Axial, and even Kershaw all make superior products
@@metal_complex You're forgetting Heretic. I really dig my Cleric II and Manticore X. In fact, these new MT models really remind me of the latter, which is a great looking OTF with softer button action and a powerful throw.
Hey man thanks for this review. Just got the mini hera and I love it so deciding if I need this or maybe gen 3 scarab or Anax next. I wanna say, gen 3 combat troodon isn’t perfect either; mine has failed to either fully fire(once) or failed to fully retract(also once) I believe due to dirtiness and quick build up of lint and grossness in my pocket. A little drop of oil and tic and she hasn’t failed yet. Had it since December and only those 2 little failures which hasn’t put me off from EDC for last stand defense. I still trust her lol. Bad mf knife. I love the ct
You know I’ve really been thinking when I bought my first microtech the microtech combat troodon why I spent with tax and shipping 600 dollars on blade hq when this one and newer combat troodon are for some reason way cheaper with all these upgrades involved and since you were pointing out how it had m390MK I feel like besides the upgrades and how they kinda redesigned the Hera and the combat troodon I feel like the reason why they are both cheaper is because of the steel because the Hera 2 is like 475 and the combat troodon gen 3 is around 450 ish so i for sure think that it’s the steel so that’s how they cut down in price because mine is just m390 and from what you were saying the m390 MK is much more softer compared to the standard m390 and I feel like that’s why there both low in price compared to the older ones because of the steel differences and especially since it’s microtechs m390 but that’s just a guess I can be wrong also I have my doubts getting it because it is new and mostly all the other models like the old gen combat trooden were proven so I have my Doubts buying one of these new ones but it is microtech I’m sure you can throw anything at it but I still have a slight doubt because this is a new design I think I might just buy this Protech tr3 since I never owned a Protech and I really want a ots for edc
Hooooly shit. There wasn't a single period in that whole wall of text. 😂
@@Tabrox5 I know kinda confusing to read right but it was awesome some of my best work
Looks very similar to the manticore x.
About that bounce. I've handled every new Microtech's OTF (besides Mini Hera) and each and every one of them fires perfectly without bouncing. Except for Hera. When I was trying to record a video for my channel, it bounced 2 times and I had to refilm.
If you're gonna spend $400+ on a knife, it should be heat treated properly. microtech has always had issues of heat treating their knives to the appropriate hrc and I don't want to hear the toughness argument m390 is meant for edge retention and rust resistance not toughness if you want a tough steel with the same edge retention use m4 or cru wear
Shhhhhh
Re: Anyone else making full size OTFs
Heretic. The Manticore lineup is a solid alternative to Microtech. (Yes I know they’re father & son)
I have a Manticore-X in Magnacut and it's a fantastic OTF!
@@ericsierra-franco7802 How sharp was yours? My Cleric II was dull out of the box, had to pay to send it back to Heretic under warranty and it STILL came back dull. Won’t even cut paper. Kinda pissed for a $700 otf.
The button ease carries down to the smaller models as well. I recently got a Hera II Mini and it is so smooth and easy. Comparing it to my Maticore S is night and day.
thats awesome otf
They could have reduced the force and still feel the same
Think about shot guns you take a really light one and a heavy one shoot the same load and see what one kicks more
Love u man
Double your fun
Saying the glass breaker makes the handle look like it’s halfway through a poop put an indelible image in my mind.😂
Metal complex I have some knives you might want to check out! I can send ‘em to ya
Check out China High End EDC. This guy has apparently never handled a Vespa.
He won't deal with anything that are clones. While Vespa makes some of their own designs, they still clone microtech.
Come on Metal Complex, do NOT DUMP OIL DOWN IN THE FRONT.
I use Heretic Lube… and literally need only a total of less than 3 drops… in certain places.
She's a beauty, alright. Not gonna pay that much, though. Unless I suddenly become a millionaire.
I got the cypher and a gt scout at the same time. Love em. However I do find myself with my heretic colossus alot. Gotta say my 2022 makora almost sounds sexual still makes my knees weak.
我手里2020年9月生产的ut赏金猎人就一直受到这个问题的困扰，到后来她基本不能正常工作了，每次的弹出收回都会失败，直到我用了wd40以后她就很少会出现问题了。所以我推荐你也试试wd40
They all look the same to me 🙈
🇺🇲 Fook yeah
The price should be around $100
😂😂😂
A 12 year olds understanding of the world..
Wildly inaccurate @ufukgul3221
@@metal_complex It deserves the selling price of 400*500$, but in Turkey it is necessary to work for 1 month to pay this money, so I said that the price between 100*200$ is more suitable.
@@jlogue751 The saying "geography is destiny" is not said for nothing.
My first Microtech failed on 2nd deployment. Was somewhat usable after some maintenance, but hard to deploy still.
My second Microtech otf is so hard to deploy it can't be deployed more than twice. Its so hard to deploy my skin would tear from my nail. 👎
Microtech otf's suck, horribly overpriced and QC is terrible. Don't buy them.
That one has a great look!
Can’t wait to see you check out an Atreus