There is the problem however, that getting a really nice pair of boots might get a guy addicted to nice boots. It starts out innocuous enough: "I'll just get an extra pair in case anything happens to the first. Really, rotating between two pairs extends the lives of both pairs." At this point you can still pull away if you only stick to one brand. Then you think: "You know, I've heard people argue that Nick's are better than White's and vice versa. If I really want to get the most out of my dollar, I should try a pair of Nick's and see if I should switch." at this point it's inescapable. You've reached the boot event horizon and the road you're on only ever ends in tragedy, leaving you with nothing to your name but regret, and an improbably large collection of really excellent footwear. This is a joke in case anybody's confused.
Well, I was a timber forester with the USDA FS and bought a pair of elk-tanned 8" tops boots. Wow, those were the most comfortable boots, even shoes I've ever worn. I'm 76 now, so it's been many years since I've worn them. The boots I have now are just not nor will they ever compare to Whites! They bring back so many great memories, woods work, fire fighting, slopes, long miles. What great boots. Perhaps I should try to get another pair.
I bought White's 7-8 years ago. I didn't want a real high heel so I went with the Bullhide version of 350s in 6 inch. Perfect for me. $490 back then; about $700 now. I don't want to spend another $700 so I give these a good going over every 3 months and I keep them as dry as I can so I have my 2d pair a boots which are my Limmer hiking boots. I am on the 3rd Vibram soles on these Whites and they are now molded to my feet. Nicks may be just as good or better but I am good with Whites. THAT ARCH SUPPORT IN WHITES WILL KEEP YOUR FEET READY TO GO AT THE END OF THE DAY!
Two best things i ever bought for my feet , my White's smokejumpers and a boot dryer. Love my White's , they were hard for me to get broke in but now their like an old pair of slipper's .
I bought my first pair of Whites Smokejumpers in 1994 . Most comfortable , best boots made , in my opinion. I've since bought another pair , and most recently a pair of their Nomad Engineer boots. I've had Whites boots on my feet literally every day for 30 years and it has been an absolute pleasure.
Good review. I was unaware of this video. I literally just got off the phone with White's and was searching around for kicks. I'm ordering custom fit, 12" upper(2" taller than stock), Brown Oil finish, Lace to Toe Smokejumpers for $559.95 + tax & shipping. Worth every penny. Mine are used in an unforgiving outdoor environment. It's cool to see this gear working for different trades. All the Best!
Check out darn tough socks. Work socks knee high, pricy but US made, lifetime warranty, took the excessive sweating and odor right out of my boots and COMFORTABLE.
I worked as a mechanic for the last four years, loggers never served me well in a warehouse setting. I generally would get a 1-1/2 out of a $200 pair of boots. I left my job to work as a lineman though. Since leaving I had to get myself a low end pair of Carolinas. Luckily I went with a non insulated boot. Even in the winter I made due with a quality sock. Knowing what I know now though, I am saving to buy myself a pair of Hoffman Boots as soon as the Carolinas bite the dust. Just from a few months of pole climbing I doubt they will last me a full 12 months.
I wore White's when working in the woods and logging and had several pairs rebuilt by Whites. I now have a pair of clones, nowhere as good as the Whites. Mine were custom fit to my feet, narrow size 14's
I wear danners at work but I hike alot. Iv gone through big problems with hiking footwear over the years. I just got a pair of smokejumpers. I can't wait for that first hike this spring
@@KillingerUSA I'll wear them around for casual stuff until I hit the trail. I hike all the time in the summer and I always do one big trip of 20+ miles in September. This is the perfect boot for all the late spring snow and mud as well as comfortable in the dryer late summer. A little heavy but that's not a problem
My Danners have been great. I suspect the older ones are better quality. I have two (sewn construction) pairs that are about 43 years old. I bought a pair of their Gore Tex and Thinsulate duty boots (also sewn) 20 years ago which are very warm so I seldom need to wear them. Several years ago I got a pair of their Gore Tex desert boots (glued) that are good so far. Toughest pair I have are Limmer hiking boots, made in Germany. Heavy and stiff but hard to kill.
Anyone looking for a flatter arch last from White’s, the Chore boot has the 610 last. Also helps that they’re only about $370. Best boot I’ve ever used.
I've been a Carolina boot 👢 customer since 16 or 17 lasting about 2 year's each (im 50 now) around last fall my current pair was at its end & i was given a brand new pair of chippewa yhat didn't even last a year. I think i will try a pair of whites .👢 thanks for the video
Love it man! So many great boots companies out there! Whites boots are my favorite custom company, but would only want to get them custom fitted for that money. Right now I’m with Chippewa and LL Bean.
@@jakemesa3211 lacrosse footwear owns danner and whites (among others) and in turn is owned by ABC mart out of Japan. That's alot of overhead factored into the cost of the footwear.
Fellow mechanic here and I have gone through all the boots like you described. I have a few questions about these boost but my #1 question is how is the slip resistance on the polished concrete covered in oil,coolant and solvents with the logger tread???
Have never slipped on anything. Traction is really good. Obviously I still use caution but never had an issue. I also have never had the sole or leather break down due to oil and chemicals.
@@KillingerUSA thanks! It's been so long since I've worn a boot with a sole like that I couldn't remember how they were or even if they were vibram or not. I love an engineer boot but nobody makes a good one anymore so I am about to order up a pair of those whites and then try to remember how to tie them 😅
I have a pair of White’s smoke jumpers bit I wanted a steel toe because at the time my job demanded I wear steel toes . I also wanted the honey vibram sole and working on concrete everyday they are comfortable.
The pain of wasting money on a poor product lasts much longer than the sting of a one time quality purchase but the quality item keeps going and going. I usually try to buy the best I can afford, most of the time. Great video and review Chris!
My second pair of White's has shipped. Got the Perry first, not for work. For work, I've got the Millwright Steel toe coming. Factory, concrete floors, lots of walking, some standing, plenty of stand up fork truck. My second option is something from Nick's Boots, eyeballing the Builder Pro steel toe, maybe the Wedge Worker with a steel toe.
I own the 400vltt boots as well. They don't just protect your feet. They protect your body as well from unwanted strain. I walk straighter and my posture has improved significantly over the years from wearing White's boots. I also don't have heel pain that I normally used to have from rotating boots.
Very good vid. I've been wearing White's and Nicks boots for years. Like u I've tried others (Redwing, Frye, Timberland etc.) but nothing compares to the durability, comfort and longterm value. I would never wear anything else.
I picked up a pair of buffalo loggers well gave a fiver for en they have cork solex and spikes fabulous condition iv oiled em well up was wondering if it would be wise to get commands fitted ....?????
Im in the same boat. I have a oair of red wing usa made loggers with a liner and in the summer my feet are on fire where i work here in colorado and Arizona! Any liner in a boot is a no go for me! Its the first thing to tear and the rest of the boot is useless.
I haven't been out on a fire since 2004😢 with the Big Bear Hotshots. But, had my White's Smoke jumpers resoled once about 4 years ago. I wear them on the weekends up here in Washington State rain, snow and summer. No complaints. I'll be loyal until I don't like their service. So yes I've had mine since the summer of 2004. Worked a hard ass season in one of the worst fire seasons in Southern California. Grand Prix fire and Old Fire just to name a couple. Plus plenty of hiking and PT in uniform running rabbit trails in Fawnskin and Big Bear wearing them. Wild Land Firefighting was the funnest abs most rewarding job I ever had. Now I'm in my 15th year serving in the US ARMY with 2 deployments. Iraq and Afghanistan. but I just recently noticed that Nick’s is now producing a tactical boot, which I am very interested in being that the army does not provide great boots, I’ve been waiting for years for whites to come out with boots that would be sufficient for soldiers, but looks like Nick’s is beating them to it. I have even commented repeatedly for years for Whites to help us out but I'm still waiting. so for now, my vote is for white boots, but when I can get my hands on a pair of Nick's new tactical boots that are meant for soldiers, they might change my mind.
No reason not to support both companies. Both are producing top of the line products. That's cool nicks is coming out with a tactical boot. I would have bought them in a heartbeat when I was in the military.
I would say Nicks are the absolute top of the line. Best quality materials, best build quality and best customer service. BUUUUT, Whites have the history, great quality and great quality craftsmanship. And through Bakers Boots you can customize pretty much all of whites boots really in depth. I own both and I love both.
Whites actually goes a lot further in their stitchdown soles. They do a stitchdown/stormwelt combination. By hand, it’s nuts how they still build them. Nicks are nice but I don’t think they go quite as far as whites in their construction. I’ve watched videos and taken a factory tour.
I would beg to differ. White actually is still better. They are worth the money and nicks aren’t. The leather is different. Whites has higher quality. Stitching is tight. I have 2005 packers where them every day. Still look good and clean up well. Solid construction. I haven’t found the same quality in nicks.
Hi Chris!!😀😀 I'm going to be in the market for a new pair of boots in the spring. So I might have to check them out. I've been running Georgia boots for a few years now. My first pair lasted 5years years and were fantastic so I bought another pair and they have only lasted two years and are just junk. I only wear them about 7 to 8 months a year. In the winter I have been running a pair of Irish Setter insulated boots. They have stood up great so far. This is going to be the fifth winter on them and they are still in great shape. Thanks for the info on the White's !! Take care my friend!!😀😀
I am in the UK and sick of paying £100 for boots that wreck your feet and socks and only last for 12 months, I have just received a pair of Whites smokejumpers that I found on Ebay for £133 + £50 shipping and taxes ( they were unused new old stock), I cannot believe the quality of these boots. I hope you guys are thankful that you still have companies that build products to such a high standard, I am just going to send an email to Whites telling them how pleased I am with their product and plead with them not to start having boots made in the Far East or reduce the quality to get the price down. If you think they are expensive just do the maths. By the way, I was lucky with these and got them really cheap but now I have seen the quality and worn them I would be happy to pay full price. Great video by the way, very informative.
You can directly say cheap Chinese without hesitation as only they make substandard products.The other countries in the Far East to which manufacturing has been outsourced by many companies i.e. Thailand and Vietnam, make quality products.
yea, White's are located in Spokane Washington, as well as three other top quality handmade competitor brands - Nick's, JK and Frank's Boots. - Also Wesco is on the Oregon coast a couple hundred miles away - Something must be in the water there.
I got a Peet boot dryer a few months back, and can't recommend it enough. Keeps my boots dry , warm at 1:30 in the morning when I get up for work, and stink free. I'm not in a position to spend $450+ on one pair of boots, but I don't question it one bit. Your feet are worth it, my $200 justin conductor's are good to me and I can get 1.5 years out of them before a resole is necessary but I fully understand the value in a rock solid pair of PNW boots from whites Nicks or Wesco.
That was a great review for those who work on their feet all day. I own a pair of semi-dress (I'm not blue-collar). They're wonderful boots and I have a pair of Franks on order. I'm fortunate to live in the Spokane Area where Whites, Nicks, and Franks are located. A good pair of boots that have the arch as you described is very important if you want to keep your body in good shape for the long-haul.
Keen...I've got 7 pairs.even when I ware my climbing spikes. Been my favorite since @05. I really don't like a heeled boot. Never could wear em. I know alot of guys swear buy em. A machinist friend of mine even wares his whites in the summer,with shorts!!! Great to see ya brutha.💚🌳👊🌳💚
I can vouch on the arch for all day comfort, I love my Nick's, Whites, JK boots and most lately also Franks boots all similar built and all in Washington lol
Couldn't agree more. Question, if you don't mind me asking, where was the store at that you were able to try some whites on?? I ask because I live in Erie, PA, (right next to the Ohio border) and am looking for someone near me, that I could find them, if still possible.
Charm harness and Boot in charm Ohio. I would call them first before you make the trip. It's been a few years since I went there. No idea of they still carry them
Chris- Are the soles hard and slippery? I had a pair many years ago and they seamed like the soles were hard and slippery when stepping on rocks and logs. I need a new pair of boots and I think I might try another pair again.
I can’t do typical mass produced off the shelf boots due to long narrow feet. I would’ve gladly paid $300 for a third pair of Redwing 899s but they stopped making them. Like the video say, no insulation just leather. I got about 4 years average out of them. Before that I went with cheap poor fit boots but as I get older in order to keep doing my job in steep difficult terrain I need a near perfect fit. The 899s were pretty good but not great. I ordered a pair of Nicks Builder Pros in custom fit and they ruined my desire to ever wear a cheap boot again. The fit is awesome (really helpful on steep slopes), the leather is heavier, they don’t need conditioner very often because they stay in good shape. It is hard to make them look old or used. Mine are smooth over rough out. I hit the rough out with an axe, can’t find the mark now. I followed Nick’s recommended break in procedure, they are great. Redwing’s solution to too wide boots is a stupid twist thing, just tighten the laces more, doesn’t work for me.
Hey... fellow mechanic here.. I’m glad you found whites and you’re extremely happy with them.. I was curious if you ever tried Nicks, Frank’s and/or wesco? Was wondering what your experience with those were as well if you tried them
@@jaycummins8720 and Frank is the former GM for Nick's that left a few years ago to start his own company. Supposedly Frank's is building boots the way Nick's did 5-10 years ago before they expanded. I have a fit sheet on the way to Frank's as we speak.
@@ronsmith9251 I’ve had them for about 9 months and I love them. They’ve held up great and are showing very little wear and they’re extremely comfortable. I actually ended up ordering a casual pair after I received the work pair and they’re great too.
@@trevorallen5988 Also JK Boots is here in Spokane as well, just a good as Nick's, White's, and Frank's - crazy that we have four of the best quality boot makers here in little Spokane WA.
I don't think I have ever tried it? I like obenaufs because it's a wax based product. Makes me feel like it adds some stability to the leather, if that makes sense.
@@KillingerUSA it does I know what you mean I was just curious about what I thought of mink oil I'm going to look into getting a pair of boots from whites I like quality. Thank you for all you do.
I was emotionally attached to my old hiking boot, so I understand. However the boot i have now ive had for 3 years, solos look like they did when I first bought them. Because I only where them 2or 3 times a month. Lol
To add to your tip at 22 minutes, when breaking in the boots if you have any hot spots, any spots where there is more pain, maybe a bite where the laces and tongue meet and your foot bends, add obenauf's oil to only that area - inside and outside of the leather. It will speed up the process of that trouble part breaking in. Then just wear the boots as much as possible and they will get slightly more comfortable by the day until they are literally YOUR boots, the shape of YOUR foot only.
I have never owned a pair of whites I have always worn west coast. The problem with west coast is they cripple you until you can get them broken in then they are the toughest boot I have ever owned. I have always wanted to try a pair of whites I just never have.
I've worn out alot of boots on shop floors, grease, oil, etc. and i spend about $200 bucks a pair. I've heard of White's boots but never pulled the trigger. If i could find a place that had them so i could try a pair on, i would probably buy them. I gave up buying cheap shoes years ago, my back is bad enough as it is!
I've had a lot of decent boots over the years... and a few "name brand" that turned out to be crap. I finally stepped up to great boots... In my current rotation I've got a pair of White's Outdoorsman (looks like they discontinued that model) and just got a pair of Nick's Builder Pro. The White's were off the shelf and I've had problems with my toes getting creamed. While they are in my "normal size" they are lined with a water proof bootie and lack an arch. I think the problem is my foot moves around too much. With that experience I got a bespoke pair of Nick's Builder Pro. I'm still breaking them in but with the last selected and modified for my feet they are proving to be very good. That said, I'd go the bespoke route if you are looking at great work boots... Nick's or White's. After examining your foot measurements they send a pair of try boots and you talk to them about the fit. Yes it adds time to the delivery but so far I've got no regrets.
@@KillingerUSA If you are not in a hurry they have specials where it costs you no more money to get them custom built than the off the shelf boots cost. You will pay in lead time to receipt though!
@@KillingerUSA Im lucky in that my work gives us an allowance for our meta tarsals for 1 pair a year, but Im gonna have to check them out for a home pair
I’m not sure about this but once you buy a nice pair of boots and you return them they’re considered used if there’s any sign that they began to break in. Even if you only wore them around the house a little bit
I love Pacific Northwest built boots like this, I have a pair of nicks builder pros and I’ve heard whites are about on par with them, they’re not just boots, they’re an investment
@@KillingerUSA I hope you do, I went with nicks because I heard whites had some QC issues a while ago and I think the flat stitch down welt on the nicks would be easier to clean but I’ve never heard of anyone being disappointed in either brand, really want a set of nicks Americana’s for just wearing around
White’s boots when I am working in the dirt. Thorogood wedge heel on concrete(I would use Redwing but, my neanderthal feet do not fit Redwings). The main problem I have with top tier footwear or any footwear is ice melt. That stuff can eat away at the stitching fast.
@@KillingerUSA thank you. If im ever in that area i will check it out. Considering getting whites or nicks but would prefer to look at them in person other than order online.
Next time you wear a hole through the sole, you should take it to a cobbler and get it resoled. Usually a resole is a lot less than a brand new pair, and you'll save a lot of money in the long run getting them rebuilt than buying new every time
I just went to replace my redwings and tbh the quality is not what it use to be very disappointed.. and I notice they read made in Vietnam now which probably where the quality got lost..
I’ve had a pair of custom whites for several years.. I love them.. However I’m curious about Nicks now. What’re your reservations towards Nicks? I’ve heard they have a more thorough fitting system but just to get them to view your completed fitting sheet is $45. Not a fan of that. Great video Killer. Love me a good boot video :)
So I have a pair of Nicks that fit real well. I did not do the try on pair, only the fit sheet. My wife helped me with the measurements and we did them multiple times to make sure we got them right. Make sure you wear the type of socks you'd be wearing with them. Best fitting boots i own. Great purchase for sure.
I’ve tried to guess what you did for a living. My best guess was welder. I’m a shoewalker. If I have to wear boots I will, but I’m much more comfortable in hiking shoes.
I mention it from time to time in the channel. I had thoughts about making a mechanic channel, but I hate it so no point in making myself more miserable! Haha!
Yup, got the email, 20% off Whites boots. I believe they said it included almost everything on the website. And, for full disclosure, I currently own Wesco boots that I have to believe are very comparable to Whites.
Wranglerstar has moved on to Nicks, then Franks Boots. Frank ran Nicks for like 20 yrs before starting his own and is located in Nicks old location in Spokane.
Damn, never heard of Franks boots but they look really great too! That’s cool, thanks! Those 3 companies are awesome. I like Whites because they make quite a few Packer style boots which are my favorite. Nicks are also awesome.
I love my whites boots as well, I have 2 pairs of semi dress, 2 pairs of there lace to toe 6" boots. But I think Franks boots a little better, there in Spokane as well.
That's a shame. I forgot to mention in my video, years ago, Carolina and redwing made some really good boots. Sadly over the years, the quality went down hill.
I just bought my 16-year-old his first pair of Nick's boots. We live local to the factory so I took him down and got him fitted right there in their store. He's in a trade school for half of his high school day in a building and construction program. His class is currently building a house for Habitat for Humanity. I originally was going to get him a pair for his high school graduation, then bumped it up to Christmas. But with winter coming I wanted to make sure he had quality footwear while working outside. I'm teaching him how to moisturize and shine them. If he takes care of them they'll last a lifetime. And if he doesn't take care of them, I'll beat his ass. I already gave him that spiel.
Hey Chris . Great review but you are 1 year late!! I was up in the air last year between Whites and Haix I didn't buy the Whites but I will for sure next time. Thanks for sharing
I agree, Whites make really good boots. There will be some sacrifice to break them in though, but that's also true with Drews, Nicks, and Wesco. They are all really good work boots.
They are not steel toe. Just better leather and the sole sticks out in the front quite a bit. This gives a good place for your toe to rest while kneeling.
There is the problem however, that getting a really nice pair of boots might get a guy addicted to nice boots. It starts out innocuous enough: "I'll just get an extra pair in case anything happens to the first. Really, rotating between two pairs extends the lives of both pairs." At this point you can still pull away if you only stick to one brand. Then you think: "You know, I've heard people argue that Nick's are better than White's and vice versa. If I really want to get the most out of my dollar, I should try a pair of Nick's and see if I should switch." at this point it's inescapable. You've reached the boot event horizon and the road you're on only ever ends in tragedy, leaving you with nothing to your name but regret, and an improbably large collection of really excellent footwear.
This is a joke in case anybody's confused.
Guilty....
This is not a joke, boots are addictive. Be careful folks.
LOL!! I just started a cpl of mths ago rather late in life but there is no turning back! :p
The cheaper boots wouldn’t have protected your feet like that from an axe. Probably saved you a couple thousand bucks in emergency room visits lol
@@dylanlambert5995 I agree
Well, I was a timber forester with the USDA FS and bought a pair of elk-tanned 8" tops boots. Wow, those were the most comfortable boots, even shoes I've ever worn. I'm 76 now, so it's been many years since I've worn them. The boots I have now are just not nor will they ever compare to Whites! They bring back so many great memories, woods work, fire fighting, slopes, long miles. What great boots. Perhaps I should try to get another pair.
I'm with you!
I also hate any liner, because its always the first thing to break. once I wear through it it causes blisters.
I bought White's 7-8 years ago. I didn't want a real high heel so I went with the Bullhide version of 350s in 6 inch. Perfect for me. $490 back then; about $700 now. I don't want to spend another $700 so I give these a good going over every 3 months and I keep them as dry as I can so I have my 2d pair a boots which are my Limmer hiking boots. I am on the 3rd Vibram soles on these Whites and they are now molded to my feet. Nicks may be just as good or better but I am good with Whites. THAT ARCH SUPPORT IN WHITES WILL KEEP YOUR FEET READY TO GO AT THE END OF THE DAY!
Two best things i ever bought for my feet , my White's smokejumpers and a boot dryer. Love my White's , they were hard for me to get broke in but now their like an old pair of slipper's .
Yup, cant beat em
I bought my first pair of Whites Smokejumpers in 1994 . Most comfortable , best boots made , in my opinion. I've since bought another pair , and most recently a pair of their Nomad Engineer boots. I've had Whites boots on my feet literally every day for 30 years and it has been an absolute pleasure.
Good review.
I was unaware of this video.
I literally just got off the phone with White's and was searching around for kicks.
I'm ordering custom fit, 12" upper(2" taller than stock), Brown Oil finish, Lace to Toe Smokejumpers for $559.95 + tax & shipping. Worth every penny.
Mine are used in an unforgiving outdoor environment. It's cool to see this gear working for different trades.
All the Best!
Congrats and that is awesome! Thanks for watching and the comment! Appreciate it!
Check out darn tough socks. Work socks knee high, pricy but US made, lifetime warranty, took the excessive sweating and odor right out of my boots and COMFORTABLE.
I do own a few pairs of those. Good socks!
I worked as a mechanic for the last four years, loggers never served me well in a warehouse setting. I generally would get a 1-1/2 out of a $200 pair of boots. I left my job to work as a lineman though. Since leaving I had to get myself a low end pair of Carolinas. Luckily I went with a non insulated boot. Even in the winter I made due with a quality sock.
Knowing what I know now though, I am saving to buy myself a pair of Hoffman Boots as soon as the Carolinas bite the dust. Just from a few months of pole climbing I doubt they will last me a full 12 months.
I wore White's when working in the woods and logging and had several pairs rebuilt by Whites. I now have a pair of clones, nowhere as good as the Whites. Mine were custom fit to my feet, narrow size 14's
what are the clones?
Me too, 14B.
Beautiful boots! I currently wear Red Wing boots, but Smoke Jumpers look like my dream boots. Also, you have my dream job, sir!
I do love these boots!
I still remember the blisters from breaking in my Viberg cork boots at my first logging camp.
Yikes!
good socks help a lot.
I wear danners at work but I hike alot. Iv gone through big problems with hiking footwear over the years. I just got a pair of smokejumpers. I can't wait for that first hike this spring
Your gonna love them! Make sure you break them in before your hike
@@KillingerUSA I'll wear them around for casual stuff until I hit the trail. I hike all the time in the summer and I always do one big trip of 20+ miles in September. This is the perfect boot for all the late spring snow and mud as well as comfortable in the dryer late summer. A little heavy but that's not a problem
I’d love to see a vid when you get the rebuilt boots back
I posted it. Not too long ago. They turned out great! Go to my channel and check it out!
My Danners have been great. I suspect the older ones are better quality. I have two (sewn construction) pairs that are about 43 years old. I bought a pair of their Gore Tex and Thinsulate duty boots (also sewn) 20 years ago which are very warm so I seldom need to wear them. Several years ago I got a pair of their Gore Tex desert boots (glued) that are good so far.
Toughest pair I have are Limmer hiking boots, made in Germany. Heavy and stiff but hard to kill.
Older bane brands were better
I live in the uk so going to look for a decent pair on ebay gamble i know id be looking for a uk size 9 wide fitting if poss ...
Hope you find a pair!
Good to see you friend. BOOTS. I NEVER REALLY GOT INTO GOOD BOOTS BEFORE.
Love to see what others are using. !
Kindness and love
Hey Billy, thanks for stopping in!
Yea brother. I have been buying new boots every year for a long time. I could have a few nice pairs off boots by now.
Kindness and love 💪🏻💪🏻⚡️⚡️
Anyone looking for a flatter arch last from White’s, the Chore boot has the 610 last. Also helps that they’re only about $370. Best boot I’ve ever used.
I've been a Carolina boot 👢 customer since 16 or 17 lasting about 2 year's each (im 50 now) around last fall my current pair was at its end & i was given a brand new pair of chippewa yhat didn't even last a year. I think i will try a pair of whites .👢 thanks for the video
Carolina boots are comfortable out of the box but with hard use they go from broken in to worn out extremely quickly.
@@trevorallen5988 agreed, I've even lost the toe from a pair of steel toes ( only one boot tho & still have them.
Have two pair. Great vid. I hope Whites keep rockin… their awesome boots and nothing else comes close.
Thanks! I also hope they stick around forever. I want a few more modles!
Love it man! So many great boots companies out there! Whites boots are my favorite custom company, but would only want to get them custom fitted for that money. Right now I’m with Chippewa and LL Bean.
Ive heard great thing s about whites great video
Thanks Buckin!
Danner now owns White's. Look into Frank's, nick's or jk's
@@jakemesa3211 lacrosse footwear owns danner and whites (among others) and in turn is owned by ABC mart out of Japan. That's alot of overhead factored into the cost of the footwear.
@@steveeab2364 right you are sir.👍
Fellow mechanic here and I have gone through all the boots like you described. I have a few questions about these boost but my #1 question is how is the slip resistance on the polished concrete covered in oil,coolant and solvents with the logger tread???
Have never slipped on anything. Traction is really good. Obviously I still use caution but never had an issue. I also have never had the sole or leather break down due to oil and chemicals.
@@KillingerUSA thanks! It's been so long since I've worn a boot with a sole like that I couldn't remember how they were or even if they were vibram or not. I love an engineer boot but nobody makes a good one anymore so I am about to order up a pair of those whites and then try to remember how to tie them 😅
I have a pair of White’s smoke jumpers bit I wanted a steel toe because at the time my job demanded I wear steel toes . I also wanted the honey vibram sole and working on concrete everyday they are comfortable.
Another great leather dressing is Skidmores out of Laramie, WY. I use both on all my leather goods and have no complaints about either.
Anyone have experience with the whites helitack? I have roughnecks for work and would like to stick to the same last
The pain of wasting money on a poor product lasts much longer than the sting of a one time quality purchase but the quality item keeps going and going. I usually try to buy the best I can afford, most of the time. Great video and review Chris!
Buy once, cry once. I have learned that the hard way over the years. I'm getting gooder at it.
My second pair of White's has shipped. Got the Perry first, not for work. For work, I've got the Millwright Steel toe coming. Factory, concrete floors, lots of walking, some standing, plenty of stand up fork truck.
My second option is something from Nick's Boots, eyeballing the Builder Pro steel toe, maybe the Wedge Worker with a steel toe.
Just cant beat good boots!
I own the 400vltt boots as well. They don't just protect your feet. They protect your body as well from unwanted strain. I walk straighter and my posture has improved significantly over the years from wearing White's boots. I also don't have heel pain that I normally used to have from rotating boots.
I totally agree with everything you said.
Very good vid. I've been wearing White's and Nicks boots for years. Like u I've tried others (Redwing, Frye, Timberland etc.) but nothing compares to the durability, comfort and longterm value. I would never wear anything else.
I picked up a pair of buffalo loggers well gave a fiver for en they have cork solex and spikes fabulous condition iv oiled em well up was wondering if it would be wise to get commands fitted ....?????
What are commands?
Cool vid .. I'm rotating pairs. What size foot ... mine are lace to arch ..
I'm a 10.
Im in the same boat. I have a oair of red wing usa made loggers with a liner and in the summer my feet are on fire where i work here in colorado and Arizona! Any liner in a boot is a no go for me! Its the first thing to tear and the rest of the boot is useless.
I haven't been out on a fire since 2004😢 with the Big Bear Hotshots. But, had my White's Smoke jumpers resoled once about 4 years ago. I wear them on the weekends up here in Washington State rain, snow and summer. No complaints. I'll be loyal until I don't like their service. So yes I've had mine since the summer of 2004. Worked a hard ass season in one of the worst fire seasons in Southern California. Grand Prix fire and Old Fire just to name a couple. Plus plenty of hiking and PT in uniform running rabbit trails in Fawnskin and Big Bear wearing them. Wild Land Firefighting was the funnest abs most rewarding job I ever had. Now I'm in my 15th year serving in the US ARMY with 2 deployments. Iraq and Afghanistan. but I just recently noticed that Nick’s is now producing a tactical boot, which I am very interested in being that the army does not provide great boots, I’ve been waiting for years for whites to come out with boots that would be sufficient for soldiers, but looks like Nick’s is beating them to it. I have even commented repeatedly for years for Whites to help us out but I'm still waiting.
so for now, my vote is for white boots, but when I can get my hands on a pair of Nick's new tactical boots that are meant for soldiers, they might change my mind.
No reason not to support both companies. Both are producing top of the line products. That's cool nicks is coming out with a tactical boot. I would have bought them in a heartbeat when I was in the military.
I would say Nicks are the absolute top of the line. Best quality materials, best build quality and best customer service. BUUUUT, Whites have the history, great quality and great quality craftsmanship. And through Bakers Boots you can customize pretty much all of whites boots really in depth. I own both and I love both.
I wouldn't mind picking up a pair of Nick's at some point. I'm sure they are all on par with each other
Whites actually goes a lot further in their stitchdown soles. They do a stitchdown/stormwelt combination. By hand, it’s nuts how they still build them. Nicks are nice but I don’t think they go quite as far as whites in their construction. I’ve watched videos and taken a factory tour.
I would beg to differ. White actually is still better. They are worth the money and nicks aren’t. The leather is different. Whites has higher quality. Stitching is tight. I have 2005 packers where them every day. Still look good and clean up well. Solid construction. I haven’t found the same quality in nicks.
I haven't tried them but, have you tried JK Boots; handmade
Have not. Might have to give them a go some day
Hi Chris!!😀😀
I'm going to be in the market for a new pair of boots in the spring. So I might have to check them out. I've been running Georgia boots for a few years now. My first pair lasted 5years years and were fantastic so I bought another pair and they have only lasted two years and are just junk. I only wear them about 7 to 8 months a year. In the winter I have been running a pair of Irish Setter insulated boots. They have stood up great so far. This is going to be the fifth winter on them and they are still in great shape.
Thanks for the info on the White's !!
Take care my friend!!😀😀
Hey Al! Thanks for popping in!
I am in the UK and sick of paying £100 for boots that wreck your feet and socks and only last for 12 months, I have just received a pair of Whites smokejumpers that I found on Ebay for £133 + £50 shipping and taxes ( they were unused new old stock), I cannot believe the quality of these boots. I hope you guys are thankful that you still have companies that build products to such a high standard, I am just going to send an email to Whites telling them how pleased I am with their product and plead with them not to start having boots made in the Far East or reduce the quality to get the price down. If you think they are expensive just do the maths. By the way, I was lucky with these and got them really cheap but now I have seen the quality and worn them I would be happy to pay full price. Great video by the way, very informative.
You can directly say cheap Chinese without hesitation as only they make substandard products.The other countries in the Far East to which manufacturing has been outsourced by many companies i.e. Thailand and Vietnam, make quality products.
@@sachinmali74 Hi Sachin, I apologise, I have been doing research and found some amazing boot makers in Thailand and Vietnam.
yea, White's are located in Spokane Washington, as well as three other top quality handmade competitor brands - Nick's, JK and Frank's Boots. - Also Wesco is on the Oregon coast a couple hundred miles away - Something must be in the water there.
I got a Peet boot dryer a few months back, and can't recommend it enough.
Keeps my boots dry , warm at 1:30 in the morning when I get up for work, and stink free.
I'm not in a position to spend $450+ on one pair of boots, but I don't question it one bit.
Your feet are worth it, my $200 justin conductor's are good to me and I can get 1.5 years out of them before a resole is necessary but I fully understand the value in a rock solid pair of PNW boots from whites Nicks or Wesco.
That was a great review for those who work on their feet all day. I own a pair of semi-dress (I'm not blue-collar). They're wonderful boots and I have a pair of Franks on order. I'm fortunate to live in the Spokane Area where Whites, Nicks, and Franks are located. A good pair of boots that have the arch as you described is very important if you want to keep your body in good shape for the long-haul.
I have a pair of the semi dress. I love them!
Keen...I've got 7 pairs.even when I ware my climbing spikes. Been my favorite since @05. I really don't like a heeled boot. Never could wear em. I know alot of guys swear buy em. A machinist friend of mine even wares his whites in the summer,with shorts!!! Great to see ya brutha.💚🌳👊🌳💚
Hey Chris! Yup. Iv been know to rock shorts and whites. Absolutely love them.
@@KillingerUSA Geez, and my friends were giving me grief for cargo shorts and 6" moc-toes. I think it's a good look.
@@walkercobb2808 I like the look as well. My wife however...
I can vouch on the arch for all day comfort, I love my Nick's, Whites, JK boots and most lately also Franks boots all similar built and all in Washington lol
A lot of good boot makers out there
How would you compare the arch support in White's vs Nick's? Thanks
wow that is a lot of boots. so which ones are the best?
@@chicagoan6342 they all make small to high arches, I prefer a medium arch
@@RizetoPower all very similar and the quality is equally phenomenal I wouldn’t chose one more than other.
Great video buddy!!!!
Hey Joe!
I also live in Ohio what is the name of the boot store you found the first pair at
www.ohiosamishcountry.com/businesses/shopping/charm-harness-and-boot
Awesome place! They have a ton of whites boots in stock.
Right on I buy pretty much all my boots from them I guess I never paid enough attention to see the whites boots
I would sleep in my smoke jumpers if my wife allowed it!
you guys have such amazing boot companies
We really do! Hard to choose just 1
Couldn't agree more. Question, if you don't mind me asking, where was the store at that you were able to try some whites on?? I ask because I live in Erie, PA, (right next to the Ohio border) and am looking for someone near me, that I could find them, if still possible.
Charm harness and Boot in charm Ohio. I would call them first before you make the trip. It's been a few years since I went there. No idea of they still carry them
Thank you for your time@@KillingerUSA
@@tarasmathers7423 no problem
What size are you in other shoes? I have a pair of wescos and a nine fits great. I am not sure it the sizing between Wesco and whites is similar.
I'm a 10 in most shoes. 10 in whites.
Did these boots fit true to size, or did you go down a half size like they recomend?
Mine were true to size.
Awesome video! I was working on my leather boots video when you dropped this. What do I do now. I love my belts you made me btw.
-Will
Make your video! Love to see it!
@@KillingerUSA Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
@@Debtfreehomesteaders you too!
Chris- Are the soles hard and slippery? I had a pair many years ago and they seamed like the soles were hard and slippery when stepping on rocks and logs. I need a new pair of boots and I think I might try another pair again.
You mean the tread? Part that hits the ground?
@@KillingerUSA yea I should have used tread nor sole. Sorry , seamed like they were real hard
@@bobpurs the traction is outstanding. Haven't noticed and slip on rocks and logs at all.
@@KillingerUSA Thanks for reply. Been wearing redwings again for last several years. Think I’ll try Whites again for my summer boot. 👍
I can’t do typical mass produced off the shelf boots due to long narrow feet. I would’ve gladly paid $300 for a third pair of Redwing 899s but they stopped making them. Like the video say, no insulation just leather. I got about 4 years average out of them. Before that I went with cheap poor fit boots but as I get older in order to keep doing my job in steep difficult terrain I need a near perfect fit. The 899s were pretty good but not great. I ordered a pair of Nicks Builder Pros in custom fit and they ruined my desire to ever wear a cheap boot again. The fit is awesome (really helpful on steep slopes), the leather is heavier, they don’t need conditioner very often because they stay in good shape. It is hard to make them look old or used. Mine are smooth over rough out. I hit the rough out with an axe, can’t find the mark now. I followed Nick’s recommended break in procedure, they are great.
Redwing’s solution to too wide boots is a stupid twist thing, just tighten the laces more, doesn’t work for me.
Hard to go back after you have a pair of quality boots.
Those are truly gorgeous boots
I absolutely love them! My rebuilds are on the way back. I will be making an update video on them!
Hey... fellow mechanic here.. I’m glad you found whites and you’re extremely happy with them.. I was curious if you ever tried Nicks, Frank’s and/or wesco? Was wondering what your experience with those were as well if you tried them
If it Nicks out of Spokane they will be very similar to whites, my understanding is nick was a former employee of whites. I would take either one.
@@jaycummins8720 and Frank is the former GM for Nick's that left a few years ago to start his own company. Supposedly Frank's is building boots the way Nick's did 5-10 years ago before they expanded. I have a fit sheet on the way to Frank's as we speak.
@@trevorallen5988 any updates on Frank’s boots?
@@ronsmith9251 I’ve had them for about 9 months and I love them. They’ve held up great and are showing very little wear and they’re extremely comfortable. I actually ended up ordering a casual pair after I received the work pair and they’re great too.
@@trevorallen5988 Also JK Boots is here in Spokane as well, just a good as Nick's, White's, and Frank's - crazy that we have four of the best quality boot makers here in little Spokane WA.
What do you think about mink oil? On the leather boots I mean??
I don't think I have ever tried it? I like obenaufs because it's a wax based product. Makes me feel like it adds some stability to the leather, if that makes sense.
@@KillingerUSA it does I know what you mean I was just curious about what
I thought of mink oil I'm going to look into getting a pair of boots from whites I like quality. Thank you for all you do.
Honest great review thanks
Thank you!
I was emotionally attached to my old hiking boot, so I understand. However the boot i have now ive had for 3 years, solos look like they did when I first bought them. Because I only where them 2or 3 times a month. Lol
That will make your boots last much longer
I could not throw my old boots out so now they live in the garden as flower pots!
To add to your tip at 22 minutes, when breaking in the boots if you have any hot spots, any spots where there is more pain, maybe a bite where the laces and tongue meet and your foot bends, add obenauf's oil to only that area - inside and outside of the leather. It will speed up the process of that trouble part breaking in. Then just wear the boots as much as possible and they will get slightly more comfortable by the day until they are literally YOUR boots, the shape of YOUR foot only.
Great tip!
I have never owned a pair of whites I have always worn west coast. The problem with west coast is they cripple you until you can get them broken in then they are the toughest boot I have ever owned. I have always wanted to try a pair of whites I just never have.
Wesco definitely make some beautiful boots
I've worn out alot of boots on shop floors, grease, oil, etc. and i spend about $200 bucks a pair. I've heard of White's boots but never pulled the trigger. If i could find a place that had them so i could try a pair on, i would probably buy them. I gave up buying cheap shoes years ago, my back is bad enough as it is!
Hope you can find them locally. You would be very happy.
I've had a lot of decent boots over the years... and a few "name brand" that turned out to be crap. I finally stepped up to great boots... In my current rotation I've got a pair of White's Outdoorsman (looks like they discontinued that model) and just got a pair of Nick's Builder Pro. The White's were off the shelf and I've had problems with my toes getting creamed. While they are in my "normal size" they are lined with a water proof bootie and lack an arch. I think the problem is my foot moves around too much. With that experience I got a bespoke pair of Nick's Builder Pro. I'm still breaking them in but with the last selected and modified for my feet they are proving to be very good. That said, I'd go the bespoke route if you are looking at great work boots... Nick's or White's. After examining your foot measurements they send a pair of try boots and you talk to them about the fit. Yes it adds time to the delivery but so far I've got no regrets.
I'm sure the fit is amazing
@@KillingerUSA If you are not in a hurry they have specials where it costs you no more money to get them custom built than the off the shelf boots cost. You will pay in lead time to receipt though!
I wish we had White's boots in the UK. Looks like they are the best boots in the World.
I had never heard if Whites boots before your video, sounds like they are worth their weight in gold !!
Hey Dan! Best boots I ever owned
@@KillingerUSA Im lucky in that my work gives us an allowance for our meta tarsals for 1 pair a year, but Im gonna have to check them out for a home pair
I’m not sure about this but once you buy a nice pair of boots and you return them they’re considered used if there’s any sign that they began to break in. Even if you only wore them around the house a little bit
Well, I never returned any of mine because I love them so much
I just ordered a pair, of size 10s actually haha. What size shoe are you normally?
I'm a 10 on most everything
you meant to say you dont use insole? but there are nails in there. you dont feel them nails?
No
I love Pacific Northwest built boots like this, I have a pair of nicks builder pros and I’ve heard whites are about on par with them, they’re not just boots, they’re an investment
They are definitely an investment. I'm looking to tru a pair of Nick's soon but I'm sure both companies are top notch!
@@KillingerUSA I hope you do, I went with nicks because I heard whites had some QC issues a while ago and I think the flat stitch down welt on the nicks would be easier to clean but I’ve never heard of anyone being disappointed in either brand, really want a set of nicks Americana’s for just wearing around
Are those boots pretty snug around the ankle and leg area
I'd say comfortable. Easy to adjust with the laces.
White’s boots when I am working in the dirt. Thorogood wedge heel on concrete(I would use Redwing but, my neanderthal feet do not fit Redwings).
The main problem I have with top tier footwear or any footwear is ice melt. That stuff can eat away at the stitching fast.
I bet!
Where were you able to buy whites in store?
Charm harness and boots in Charm Ohio
@@KillingerUSA thank you. If im ever in that area i will check it out. Considering getting whites or nicks but would prefer to look at them in person other than order online.
I wear redwings and replace them every two years. Same problem every time. A hole develops in the heel leather.
Next time you wear a hole through the sole, you should take it to a cobbler and get it resoled. Usually a resole is a lot less than a brand new pair, and you'll save a lot of money in the long run getting them rebuilt than buying new every time
@@lordphilbert3838 it’s not on the sole. It’s on the leather just above the sole on the heel.
I just went to replace my redwings and tbh the quality is not what it use to be very disappointed.. and I notice they read made in Vietnam now which probably where the quality got lost..
@@mikehopkins7384 the boot I buy is from the store in Redwing MN. Still made in MN. $400 though…
I love my Whites smoke jumpers ❤
Is your store back in stock?
Not yet!
I’ve had a pair of custom whites for several years.. I love them.. However I’m curious about Nicks now. What’re your reservations towards Nicks? I’ve heard they have a more thorough fitting system but just to get them to view your completed fitting sheet is $45. Not a fan of that. Great video Killer. Love me a good boot video :)
I'm sure Nick's makes a fantastic boot. Might try a pair some day.
I will say I have enjoyed my Wesco boots and would not hesitate to order them again.
So I have a pair of Nicks that fit real well. I did not do the try on pair, only the fit sheet. My wife helped me with the measurements and we did them multiple times to make sure we got them right. Make sure you wear the type of socks you'd be wearing with them. Best fitting boots i own. Great purchase for sure.
Nice review. Custom boots are well worth the $. Curious.. were your 1st pair custom fit, or off the shelf size?
Shelf size. I own 3 pairs of these, and 2 pairs or other White's boots. All standard sizes off the shelf.
What was the store in Ohio that carries these boots?
Charm boots
I’ve tried to guess what you did for a living. My best guess was welder. I’m a shoewalker. If I have to wear boots I will, but I’m much more comfortable in hiking shoes.
I mention it from time to time in the channel. I had thoughts about making a mechanic channel, but I hate it so no point in making myself more miserable! Haha!
looks cold in there, need a stove maybe,
Coming soon!
Yup, got the email, 20% off Whites boots. I believe they said it included almost everything on the website. And, for full disclosure, I currently own Wesco boots that I have to believe are very comparable to Whites.
I believe you are correct.
Wranglerstar has moved on to Nicks, then Franks Boots. Frank ran Nicks for like 20 yrs before starting his own and is located in Nicks old location in Spokane.
I saw that. I suspect they are all similar quality
Damn, never heard of Franks boots but they look really great too! That’s cool, thanks! Those 3 companies are awesome. I like Whites because they make quite a few Packer style boots which are my favorite. Nicks are also awesome.
@@scottrgood I have a pair of Frank's and love them!
I love my whites boots as well, I have 2 pairs of semi dress, 2 pairs of there lace to toe 6" boots. But I think Franks boots a little better, there in Spokane as well.
Maybe I'll give them a try!
My leatherwork goals. Onward!
Is this video getting good foot traffic? Sorry I just had to. Good video dude! Great mix of content on your channel!
Its definitely becoming one of my more popular videos. Has some good traction!
Best boots I found are emerson of maine but now discontinued
That's a shame. I forgot to mention in my video, years ago, Carolina and redwing made some really good boots. Sadly over the years, the quality went down hill.
@@KillingerUSA I'm also a mechanic and been looking for something to replace these once they were out
@@jermball12345 if you can swing it, you wont regret it
The are a great looking boots Killinger stay safe regards Frank
Thanks Frank!
Personally waterproof liners are kind of gimmicky and just make the foot sweat more
Yep
they must be good boots they are $859.00 in canada
Man, they really hike things up in Canada.
You can almost buy a whole cow for that money 😂
i definitely understand i own like 7 pairs of nicks boots custom boots are the way to go
Sure make a difference
I've burnt out 600 dollars in this year alone in boots. Guess it's time to be a big boy
This is an easy decision at this point. You got nothing to Loose
@@KillingerUSA thank you for the video
Awesome Pair Of Workers There, Chris ! Love Them High Steppers ! ATB T God Bless
they are sweet!
I just bought my 16-year-old his first pair of Nick's boots. We live local to the factory so I took him down and got him fitted right there in their store. He's in a trade school for half of his high school day in a building and construction program. His class is currently building a house for Habitat for Humanity. I originally was going to get him a pair for his high school graduation, then bumped it up to Christmas. But with winter coming I wanted to make sure he had quality footwear while working outside. I'm teaching him how to moisturize and shine them. If he takes care of them they'll last a lifetime. And if he doesn't take care of them, I'll beat his ass. I already gave him that spiel.
Haha! Good on you! Start him right!
Hey Chris . Great review but you are 1 year late!! I was up in the air last year between Whites and Haix I didn't buy the Whites but I will for sure next time. Thanks for sharing
Its never too late! Haha!
I agree, Whites make really good boots. There will be some sacrifice to break them in though, but that's also true with Drews, Nicks, and Wesco. They are all really good work boots.
Love them!
The soles on my nicks are wearing down fast I’ll be lucky to get a year out of them
Maybe contact them?
I drive a yard truck so I’m constantly climbing in and out of truck on metal grates on truck and concrete
I like your boots
Me too
@@KillingerUSA Great looking boots. I want to get a pair.
@@rhymeandreasoning you will love them and never wear anything else.
White’s- friggin sponsor this guy!
Also, how do you not wear out the top of the toe kneeling on concrete? Are they steel-toed?
They are not steel toe. Just better leather and the sole sticks out in the front quite a bit. This gives a good place for your toe to rest while kneeling.
Dude! You wont believe this! Stay tuned for some awesomeness!
I hope that means they sponsored you. I’ll be watching
@@KevinsDisobedience haha! Technically no, but man I got a cool story now!
well said and great points on the cost/year savings
Thanks buddy!
Have you had viberg never owned a pair i gave 2 pair's of whites love them climb in them everyday.
I’ve never had whites but I own three pair and nicks and I love them
Nice+
Oct 2023 $799.00 now they have doubled in 7 years but work it
Yep
you should try re-soling your own boots since you do leather stuff. Would be a useful skill.
+ u save money, probably
@@man-qz8ki I dont believe I have the correct equipment or experience
@@KillingerUSA watch a few bespoke shemaking videos and cobblery videos, easy