Juan bagnell is another underrated english tech reviewer I found who regularly advocates for better pro mode camera implementations, better sound (in videos) processing, desktop mode, desktop video editors and better fold phone designs! If anyone is interested, pretty cool dude!
The ability to install linux and potentiall Steam OS makes it a candidate for a portable gaming PC, given you have a thermoelectric cooler or the phone has an active cooling option like the Redmagic phones. Can't wait to play games on it (RDR1 reached an average of 130FPS on an 8 Elite phone, imagine the native performance)
update:game fusion released a video showing emulation performance of 8 elite and it is insane re 2,3 1080p med high settings and still gets 40 to 50 fps insane even a leaked video showing rdr2 1080p high settings at around 20 fps it is really powerful now to handle AAA games I have really high hopes for proton on arm valve is working on it and 8 elite seems like 1.5x to 2x or more powerful than 8+gen3 as emulation was cpu bottlenecked
Also, Samsung just didn't even give Ultra HDR photos capture support to older devices despite having capable hardware. HDR video editing sadly don't even exist but we can edit HDR photos though using Lightroom and Google Photos.
LF on iPad OS lets you switch to HLG or PQ color space but on Android it can't. LF devs say it's some kind of Android limitation (even though LR atleast let's you trigger HDR mode). God knows who is speaking the truth.
@@JithuChilukuri HDR leverages full color depth with more vibrant and true to life colors. HDR mainly enhances brightness of just the brighter part increasing contrast by a lot. For example when there's a sun scene in a HDR video area of the screen having sun will reach high peak brightness to give to true to life experience.
@@JithuChilukuri You should only edit in HDR, if you are going to present your photo in HDR and there are next to no devices that can show photos in HDR. May be in the future.
This video deserves more attention..... Like cmon devs... Make this happen Why no... Why I imagine using my s24u with my 85 inch tv with apps that are optimized for desktop mode
Yea, I totally agree with all your points. I have a Mi11Ultra and am seriously considering upgrading to Xi15Ultra next year. But like you mentioned, while the SD Elite and its GPU (4.6 teraflops) is super impressive, the desktop mode in phones most of the time is such an after thought, and so limited. At least Samsung has this DeX thing, most phones have got nearly nothing in that direction. Xiaomi has finally started adding Display-Alt output from their USB-C port since their 14 series, but I don't think there are any real features apart from screen mirroring (that too I am not sure I have options to set it at 16:9 4k 60hz at least). This power could be leveraged not only using external monitors/TVs but also VR headsets, where maybe we could just buy the shell and connect it with the phone's hardware directly. Also, I'm not sure how future proof it might be too, because the new AI stuff may require new architectures or dedicated hardware units or something. Another issue is, while the camera improvements keep coming, they all cater to general consumer preferences with the over saturated bright processed waxy look, While my only primary interest is to have the camera be exactly like a DSLR or simply exceed it even. I spent so much time perfecting the mi11ultra camera look through GCAM mods and some tweaking, I'd have to do the same for any new phone too if I want the organic look.
Mi11 Ultra was a true Ultra phone. I can only imagine the images it could produce using Gcam. ISOCELL GN2 right? Big 1/1.12 inch sensor.. with a screen at the back for the best selfies ever haha! Xiaomi has been providing DP1.4 for sometime now, I don't know why they don't work on a desktop mode, or at least allow us to trigger the experimental desktop mode from dev options but even that doesn't work in HyperOS.
8Gen3 and above have 10Gbps bandwidth but manufacturers are still stuck with 5Gbps. Bandwidth is the main limitation for dex. Like we need at least 20Gbps. Cause when you connect to external display tab display switches to 60 Hz. Also, 20Gbps will allow 1440p at 120Hz with 10 bit color depth for external display.
Actually let me correct you, it's not about the usb bandwidth but the display port protocol implemented via dp-alt. Infact non-pro iPhones can output video even though they are on USB 2.0. From what I know, Samsung tablets can output upto 4K60Hz using goodlock mods which basically suggests it's DP1.4 and so does Xiaomi which supports 4K60Hz output by default (and that's age old SD870). DP1.4 can easily handle 1440p144Hz, in fact it can do 3440x1440 240Hz. So it some kind of other limitation, God knows what it is.
Reason devs are not utilizing these chips is because pf the broad number of chips on the android side.a note 8 samsung can run an app that runs on a s24 ultra
Wow, interesting.. even my 10 year old laptop can run RDR2 while my 2024 RTX 4060 runs it a lot better. The combination of actual config + OS choices on PC is an order of magnitude more varied than Android, and yet we don't talk about this issue for PCs, do we? You understand performance scaling exists right? Does your Note 8 run PUBG or Genshin Impact as well as your 24 Ultra?
Great video. I wonder why no one talks about it. It's true the phone companies compete with each other by adding more power and performance to their devices and want us to settle by just seeing how snapy their UI is. We need features and functionalities to take advantage of so much power. You rightly called it out and I really hope this video at some point gets noticed in a big way. Thanks and great job man. Peace ✌🏽
The 8 elite apu is a new product that came out recently, so there aren't many products, but how do you know that not all 8 elite apu products support USB c external monitor?
Most don't have a Display port enabled Type-C port and even if they do - they are limited to useless screen mirroring, instead of actual desktop mode where the external display can be used independently.
Also 8 elite being a new product means nothing.. Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is still plenty powerful but there is little pro software available to take advantage of it.
@@techstation365As far as I know, ZTE nubia Red Magic 10 Pro has a kind of desktop mode which is called host mode or console mode and even has a dedicated button for that mode.. so you are wrong..
@@techstation365Yes, I agree with you. However, the 8 elite is a monumental product in the history of arm apu, like apple's m1. As far as i know, it took about 2-3 years for Davinci resolve for ipad m1 to come out after apple's ipad m1 was released. So I guess if we wait a bit, it will be released.
samsung is even reversing in this aspect. my S6 Lite used to support EXPERIMENTALLY the Second Screen feature over WiFi, but they removed it in an update. now i need to use third party software (spacedesk) for the same purpose. it's really sad.
Damn, never knew that. Even I had S6 Lite at one point and I remember triggering the "hidden" second screen feature which was official on more expensive tablets. I sold my S6 Lite long back, after using for 2 years. Samsung has really lost it - Galaxy Tab S7 FE features full external dex support over Type-C just like Tab S7, however they downgraded the Type-C port and removed external DEX from the Tab S9 FE/FE+. What a scummy move, I'm sure many got fooled.
The reason game devs dont make AAA games for mobile is because of the fact that if they did people would see less point in buying consoles or pcs and the games on them. Its all about money which is a shame because i 100% agree and the raw power mobile devices have now could easily run these higher quality games
I believe they can certainly co-exist. If age old Nintendo Switch with much much much less powerful hardware than even upper mid-range android phones can have AAA ports like Doom Eternal and Hogwarts Legacy, then they can definitely exist on Android as well. The port should also not be expensive, as Nintendo Switch port already exists and Switch is really old now. The devs just need to implement a reasonable DRM to prevent piracy, that's it.
thermals are also a big factor. no matter how powerful smartphone soc are the thermals will be always limiting when you push these chips to its limits. they give you a performance burst just for 2 minutes and then they thermal throttle to oblivion. nowadays peoples want slim and waterproof phones so i don't blame the companies too for not implementing proper cooling like the Nintendo switch and other handheld consoles have
i will see this and horizon zero dawn remastered video when i am free, my mid sem exams are going on, thank you for making content and managing it with your job, waiting for new videos
There's a mistake which you made the overall die size of both are very similar the only reason why the apple A18 pro scores this high in single core sis bcs of using arm v9.2 with sme (scalable matrix extension) now if you open geekbench and see the individual scores like file compression , decompression etc there's a thing for sme that boosts the score of the apple 18 pro and not it's size and since Qualcomm is using arm v8 v8 doesn't support sme infact the 8gen3 supports arm v9 with sme but not 8elite thnks to legal disputes bw Qualcomm and arm The sad part is the 9400 also used arm v9.2. But they dint integrate the sme which results is lower single core score in the geekbench This year Qualcomm and meditatech both had chance to beat the A18 pro in single core but lost bcs of not using sme a total missed oppertunity plus with sme the 8elite would have scored 3220 @4gbz insted of 4.37 and @4.37 it would have scored 3550 ther by matching the A18 pro in single core
Thanks for insight. Didn't know about this. But for overall die size they are similar as Apple doesn't include the modem in the SoC die whereas Qualcomm and Mediatek does.
@@techstation365 but that score is not bcs of the reason I mentioned it's bcs of the reason I mentioned let me give u a bit more insight actually interns of pure IPC 9400 is better only if 9400 was clocked at 4.0ghz it would have easily scored above 3200 Let me also give u another insight Single core formula Single core = IPC * clcokspeed See getting doible digit IPC every year by brands year or year is very difficult that's y brands increase the clcokspeed to compensate the single core performance And in pure IPC 9400 is actually better then Qualcomm
@@techstation365 but that score is not bcs of the reason I mentioned it's bcs of the reason I mentioned let me give u a bit more insight actually interns of pure IPC 9400 is better only if 9400 was clocked at 4.0ghz it would have easily scored above 3200 Let me also give u another insight Single core formula Single core = IPC * clcokspeed See getting doible digit IPC every year by brands year or year is very difficult that's y brands increase the clcokspeed to compensate the single core performance And in pure IPC 9400 is actually better then Qualcomm
This is the only channel that is not brainwashed by apple, and doesn't yap about apple's "optimization" even though they see 8 elite using less power, and giving more performance while running cooler than a18 pro.
Power efficiency is never calculated without setting performance target. You cannot say x is more efficient than y since x used lesser power than y to get a score even though that score is much lesser than what x achieved. You set the score and then test each SoC to see how much power the SoC needs to achieve that target. For example 8 Elite in Genshin Impact manages 60fps at max settings while consuming 4.6W while the 8 Gen 3 needs a little over 6W to do the same. There are other such examples. Throttled performance of 8 Elite = 8 Gen 3 peak and that's a vital stat.
I agree. The biggest problem on mobile is the lack of software capabilities. By the way, I really like your videos. They are awesome! Greetings from Brazil! :)
The concept of using Android as a desktop OS is very old. Remember the Android x86 project - Remix OS? Pheonix OS? Prime OS? Unfortunately it never went mainstream. Android 10 introduced an experimental desktop mode which Samsung took advantage of to build on top of it and then some others did as well like Huawei, Lenovo and later Motorola but it's rarely talked about and so never went mainstream.
I think it's against their own interests. After all, they're also a laptop company, so there's no reason for them to undermine the laptop market by making cell phones comparable to, or in my opinion even better than, laptops (considering size and a fanless setup). Unless something changes in the future, or they exit that market, things are unlikely to change.
Qualcomm is supporting Linux actively. All we need is Google to introduce hardware based virtualization with GPU acceleration. That way at least we can boot up Linux on ARM and get access to several desktop grade software for development purposes.
Even if you can use all that processing power, it will get so hot it will just throttle to oblivion. Phones like these need active cooling systems to utilize their full PAWAAAHHHHH!
With higher celing for performance, now we will clearly start to see the difference between regular phones and gaming phones. But regardless, we need some pro apps to actually take advantage of the new hardware.
@@techstation365 i don't play mobile games that much I use my laptop most of the time for it I just want it for watching movies, taking good photos or playing basic games like cod mobile or warzone mobile with friends so which would you recommend
Aaa games should come in android but question is are android gamer buy those 1500 rs plus games 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 or they choose the another way to play that game
u must understand especially android users, they seldom spend on apps especially if the apps or game apps more than 20 usd dollars. for triple A apps for video editor to charge at 50 USD dollars not much consumer will purchase and all the effort by developer to convert to android will not a profit. triple A games also the same. Apple ios asks the developer to triple A games such as Assassin creed mirage and Resident Evil to sell them at USD 50 each. no much people buying them causing developers to lose money. the number 1 resason there are a lot free ot catchup games which are seem free. secondly, there are not physical controller and using touch screen really make the game less enjoyable. user to carry a separate controllers very trouble. it is upto developer create a form of portmaster where users can buy games in GOG and someone help to run this PC games in android. it need winlator to improve and make it more user friendly. switch emulator which use power processor has been discontinued by nintendo. i think now people has very powerful processor but not fully utilize the power in apps. What a waste.
And S8 elit geekbench single core score is 2600 to 2900 and multi core score is 8400 to. 9000 th-cam.com/video/0FNn3oF_Yrw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4lpwLPI-TSn2Uv5a
Upto 3200 single and over 10k multi: th-cam.com/video/7g9GoOVBODk/w-d-xo.html Even small Xiaomi 15 can do 3k single 9k multi th-cam.com/video/XKNyWackuFo/w-d-xo.html Geekerwan also managed over 10k. th-cam.com/video/GkJCWncZbJc/w-d-xo.html
@@Shahzad1235716 core cpu & 40 core gpu in 8mm thick phone? With 5000mah battery? 10000mah battery? How can you power that cpu & gpu without active cooling?
Not always. They are all close by due to using TSMC's latest 3nm node. Check Geekerwan's Xiaomi 15 video, it's even more efficient than OnePlus 13. Almost shaving 0.5W-0.7W more.
Juan bagnell is another underrated english tech reviewer I found who regularly advocates for better pro mode camera implementations, better sound (in videos) processing, desktop mode, desktop video editors and better fold phone designs! If anyone is interested, pretty cool dude!
I have been following the SomeGadgetGuy from way back in the day bro 😁
I also belong to the first gen of Android user.
Man these companies intentionally gatekeep these features 😢😢❤❤
The ability to install linux and potentiall Steam OS makes it a candidate for a portable gaming PC, given you have a thermoelectric cooler or the phone has an active cooling option like the Redmagic phones. Can't wait to play games on it (RDR1 reached an average of 130FPS on an 8 Elite phone, imagine the native performance)
Exactly my same thoughts , there is nothing to apply all this performance
update:game fusion released a video showing emulation performance of 8 elite and it is insane re 2,3 1080p med high settings and still gets 40 to 50 fps insane even a leaked video showing rdr2 1080p high settings at around 20 fps it is really powerful now to handle AAA games I have really high hopes for proton on arm valve is working on it and 8 elite seems like 1.5x to 2x or more powerful than 8+gen3 as emulation was cpu bottlenecked
Also, Samsung just didn't even give Ultra HDR photos capture support to older devices despite having capable hardware.
HDR video editing sadly don't even exist but we can edit HDR photos though using Lightroom and Google Photos.
LF on iPad OS lets you switch to HLG or PQ color space but on Android it can't. LF devs say it's some kind of Android limitation (even though LR atleast let's you trigger HDR mode). God knows who is speaking the truth.
What is difference between editing in hdr mode and sdr mode
@@JithuChilukuri HDR leverages full color depth with more vibrant and true to life colors.
HDR mainly enhances brightness of just the brighter part increasing contrast by a lot.
For example when there's a sun scene in a HDR video area of the screen having sun will reach high peak brightness to give to true to life experience.
@@sauravrex so should I edit in hdr mode in light room instead of normal mode
@@JithuChilukuri You should only edit in HDR, if you are going to present your photo in HDR and there are next to no devices that can show photos in HDR. May be in the future.
This video deserves more attention.....
Like cmon devs... Make this happen
Why no... Why
I imagine using my s24u with my 85 inch tv with apps that are optimized for desktop mode
Agree. The power these cpus can give is mind blowing. The developers are turning a bling eye to the raw performances these socs are capable of.
Yea, I totally agree with all your points.
I have a Mi11Ultra and am seriously considering upgrading to Xi15Ultra next year.
But like you mentioned, while the SD Elite and its GPU (4.6 teraflops) is super impressive, the desktop mode in phones most of the time is such an after thought, and so limited.
At least Samsung has this DeX thing, most phones have got nearly nothing in that direction.
Xiaomi has finally started adding Display-Alt output from their USB-C port since their 14 series, but I don't think there are any real features apart from screen mirroring (that too I am not sure I have options to set it at 16:9 4k 60hz at least).
This power could be leveraged not only using external monitors/TVs but also VR headsets, where maybe we could just buy the shell and connect it with the phone's hardware directly.
Also, I'm not sure how future proof it might be too, because the new AI stuff may require new architectures or dedicated hardware units or something.
Another issue is, while the camera improvements keep coming, they all cater to general consumer preferences with the over saturated bright processed waxy look,
While my only primary interest is to have the camera be exactly like a DSLR or simply exceed it even.
I spent so much time perfecting the mi11ultra camera look through GCAM mods and some tweaking, I'd have to do the same for any new phone too if I want the organic look.
Mi11 Ultra was a true Ultra phone. I can only imagine the images it could produce using Gcam. ISOCELL GN2 right? Big 1/1.12 inch sensor.. with a screen at the back for the best selfies ever haha!
Xiaomi has been providing DP1.4 for sometime now, I don't know why they don't work on a desktop mode, or at least allow us to trigger the experimental desktop mode from dev options but even that doesn't work in HyperOS.
8Gen3 and above have 10Gbps bandwidth but manufacturers are still stuck with 5Gbps. Bandwidth is the main limitation for dex. Like we need at least 20Gbps.
Cause when you connect to external display tab display switches to 60 Hz. Also, 20Gbps will allow 1440p at 120Hz with 10 bit color depth for external display.
Actually let me correct you, it's not about the usb bandwidth but the display port protocol implemented via dp-alt. Infact non-pro iPhones can output video even though they are on USB 2.0.
From what I know, Samsung tablets can output upto 4K60Hz using goodlock mods which basically suggests it's DP1.4 and so does Xiaomi which supports 4K60Hz output by default (and that's age old SD870).
DP1.4 can easily handle 1440p144Hz, in fact it can do 3440x1440 240Hz. So it some kind of other limitation, God knows what it is.
4k 60 hz s24 ultra , 1440p 120hz ❤ what he talking 😂
Reason devs are not utilizing these chips is because pf the broad number of chips on the android side.a note 8 samsung can run an app that runs on a s24 ultra
Wow, interesting.. even my 10 year old laptop can run RDR2 while my 2024 RTX 4060 runs it a lot better. The combination of actual config + OS choices on PC is an order of magnitude more varied than Android, and yet we don't talk about this issue for PCs, do we?
You understand performance scaling exists right? Does your Note 8 run PUBG or Genshin Impact as well as your 24 Ultra?
Great video. I wonder why no one talks about it. It's true the phone companies compete with each other by adding more power and performance to their devices and want us to settle by just seeing how snapy their UI is. We need features and functionalities to take advantage of so much power. You rightly called it out and I really hope this video at some point gets noticed in a big way. Thanks and great job man. Peace ✌🏽
Yes imagine how useful Android tablets can be. I consider expensive Android tablets as nothing more than toys.
The 8 elite apu is a new product that came out recently, so there aren't many products, but how do you know that not all 8 elite apu products support USB c external monitor?
Most don't have a Display port enabled Type-C port and even if they do - they are limited to useless screen mirroring, instead of actual desktop mode where the external display can be used independently.
Also 8 elite being a new product means nothing.. Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 is still plenty powerful but there is little pro software available to take advantage of it.
@@techstation365As far as I know, ZTE nubia Red Magic 10 Pro has a kind of desktop mode which is called host mode or console mode and even has a dedicated button for that mode.. so you are wrong..
@@techstation365Yes, I agree with you. However, the 8 elite is a monumental product in the history of arm apu, like apple's m1. As far as i know, it took about 2-3 years for Davinci resolve for ipad m1 to come out after apple's ipad m1 was released. So I guess if we wait a bit, it will be released.
samsung is even reversing in this aspect. my S6 Lite used to support EXPERIMENTALLY the Second Screen feature over WiFi, but they removed it in an update. now i need to use third party software (spacedesk) for the same purpose. it's really sad.
Damn, never knew that. Even I had S6 Lite at one point and I remember triggering the "hidden" second screen feature which was official on more expensive tablets.
I sold my S6 Lite long back, after using for 2 years.
Samsung has really lost it - Galaxy Tab S7 FE features full external dex support over Type-C just like Tab S7, however they downgraded the Type-C port and removed external DEX from the Tab S9 FE/FE+. What a scummy move, I'm sure many got fooled.
@@techstation365 Just another example of corporate greed, cause if they don't degrade cheap alternatives , who will buy expensive ones ?
The reason game devs dont make AAA games for mobile is because of the fact that if they did people would see less point in buying consoles or pcs and the games on them. Its all about money which is a shame because i 100% agree and the raw power mobile devices have now could easily run these higher quality games
I believe they can certainly co-exist. If age old Nintendo Switch with much much much less powerful hardware than even upper mid-range android phones can have AAA ports like Doom Eternal and Hogwarts Legacy, then they can definitely exist on Android as well. The port should also not be expensive, as Nintendo Switch port already exists and Switch is really old now. The devs just need to implement a reasonable DRM to prevent piracy, that's it.
thermals are also a big factor. no matter how powerful smartphone soc are the thermals will be always limiting when you push these chips to its limits. they give you a performance burst just for 2 minutes and then they thermal throttle to oblivion. nowadays peoples want slim and waterproof phones so i don't blame the companies too for not implementing proper cooling like the Nintendo switch and other handheld consoles have
i will see this and horizon zero dawn remastered video when i am free, my mid sem exams are going on, thank you for making content and managing it with your job, waiting for new videos
The performance is only good for people like me who do more niche stuff like playing and emulating games on their phones
I have a full video on that. We need more than some hobbyist emulation capabilities.
@techstation365 I agree 👍
I think it's just players who loves to emulate pc games on mobile
Need more than just hobby emulation.
There's a mistake which you made the overall die size of both are very similar the only reason why the apple A18 pro scores this high in single core sis bcs of using arm v9.2 with sme (scalable matrix extension) now if you open geekbench and see the individual scores like file compression , decompression etc there's a thing for sme that boosts the score of the apple 18 pro and not it's size and since Qualcomm is using arm v8 v8 doesn't support sme infact the 8gen3 supports arm v9 with sme but not 8elite thnks to legal disputes bw Qualcomm and arm
The sad part is the 9400 also used arm v9.2. But they dint integrate the sme which results is lower single core score in the geekbench
This year Qualcomm and meditatech both had chance to beat the A18 pro in single core but lost bcs of not using sme a total missed oppertunity plus with sme the 8elite would have scored 3220 @4gbz insted of 4.37 and @4.37 it would have scored 3550 ther by matching the A18 pro in single core
Thanks for insight. Didn't know about this.
But for overall die size they are similar as Apple doesn't include the modem in the SoC die whereas Qualcomm and Mediatek does.
@@techstation365 but that score is not bcs of the reason I mentioned it's bcs of the reason I mentioned let me give u a bit more insight actually interns of pure IPC 9400 is better only if 9400 was clocked at 4.0ghz it would have easily scored above 3200
Let me also give u another insight
Single core formula
Single core = IPC * clcokspeed
See getting doible digit IPC every year by brands year or year is very difficult that's y brands increase the clcokspeed to compensate the single core performance
And in pure IPC 9400 is actually better then Qualcomm
@@techstation365 but that score is not bcs of the reason I mentioned it's bcs of the reason I mentioned let me give u a bit more insight actually interns of pure IPC 9400 is better only if 9400 was clocked at 4.0ghz it would have easily scored above 3200
Let me also give u another insight
Single core formula
Single core = IPC * clcokspeed
See getting doible digit IPC every year by brands year or year is very difficult that's y brands increase the clcokspeed to compensate the single core performance
And in pure IPC 9400 is actually better then Qualcomm
This is the only channel that is not brainwashed by apple, and doesn't yap about apple's "optimization" even though they see 8 elite using less power, and giving more performance while running cooler than a18 pro.
True. I am not bashing anyone but Qualcomm deserves some praise, just like Apple.
Elite is not power efficient it drain battery, they shoold have put at least 2 core at 2.3, and why 4.34 its too much for nothing
Power efficiency is never calculated without setting performance target. You cannot say x is more efficient than y since x used lesser power than y to get a score even though that score is much lesser than what x achieved.
You set the score and then test each SoC to see how much power the SoC needs to achieve that target. For example 8 Elite in Genshin Impact manages 60fps at max settings while consuming 4.6W while the 8 Gen 3 needs a little over 6W to do the same. There are other such examples. Throttled performance of 8 Elite = 8 Gen 3 peak and that's a vital stat.
@@techstation365 i admit you right but why it drain like that so ?
@@sten7425???
android should have some multi monitor type of thing for android tablets
I agree. The biggest problem on mobile is the lack of software capabilities.
By the way, I really like your videos. They are awesome! Greetings from Brazil! :)
Thanks a lot! Hoping for big changes on Android in the coming years.
I just blame aosp for for desktop mode
The concept of using Android as a desktop OS is very old. Remember the Android x86 project - Remix OS? Pheonix OS? Prime OS?
Unfortunately it never went mainstream. Android 10 introduced an experimental desktop mode which Samsung took advantage of to build on top of it and then some others did as well like Huawei, Lenovo and later Motorola but it's rarely talked about and so never went mainstream.
I think it's against their own interests. After all, they're also a laptop company, so there's no reason for them to undermine the laptop market by making cell phones comparable to, or in my opinion even better than, laptops (considering size and a fanless setup). Unless something changes in the future, or they exit that market, things are unlikely to change.
Qualcomm is supporting Linux actively. All we need is Google to introduce hardware based virtualization with GPU acceleration. That way at least we can boot up Linux on ARM and get access to several desktop grade software for development purposes.
@@techstation365 interesting
Even if you can use all that processing power, it will get so hot it will just throttle to oblivion. Phones like these need active cooling systems to utilize their full PAWAAAHHHHH!
With higher celing for performance, now we will clearly start to see the difference between regular phones and gaming phones. But regardless, we need some pro apps to actually take advantage of the new hardware.
damnn an awesome well researched video loved it ❤
no purpose on social media but a big purpose on ai and upcoming aaa games
13:02 "upcoming AAA games" - Hope so. At least games.
Bro should i get s24 ultra this black friday sale or wait for s25 ultra
Hello. Umm I mean if you got no need for a Snapdragon 8 Elite, then just get the S24 Ultra.
@@techstation365 i don't play mobile games that much I use my laptop most of the time for it I just want it for watching movies, taking good photos or playing basic games like cod mobile or warzone mobile with friends so which would you recommend
@@JithuChilukuriwait for s25u , then purchase s24u at an discount
@@JithuChilukuri I would really direct you towards Vivo X90/100 series.
@techstation365 they are not available on my country
Aaa games should come in android but question is are android gamer buy those 1500 rs plus games 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 or they choose the another way to play that game
Yes they will, once they see the quality.
If not AAA games, then at least we need pro software.
u must understand especially android users, they seldom spend on apps especially if the apps or game apps more than 20 usd dollars. for triple A apps for video editor to charge at 50 USD dollars not much consumer will purchase and all the effort by developer to convert to android will not a profit. triple A games also the same. Apple ios asks the developer to triple A games such as Assassin creed mirage and Resident Evil to sell them at USD 50 each. no much people buying them causing developers to lose money. the number 1 resason there are a lot free ot catchup games which are seem free. secondly, there are not physical controller and using touch screen really make the game less enjoyable. user to carry a separate controllers very trouble. it is upto developer create a form of portmaster where users can buy games in GOG and someone help to run this PC games in android. it need winlator to improve and make it more user friendly. switch emulator which use power processor has been discontinued by nintendo. i think now people has very powerful processor but not fully utilize the power in apps. What a waste.
And S8 elit geekbench single core score is 2600 to 2900 and multi core score is 8400 to. 9000 th-cam.com/video/0FNn3oF_Yrw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4lpwLPI-TSn2Uv5a
Upto 3200 single and over 10k multi:
th-cam.com/video/7g9GoOVBODk/w-d-xo.html
Even small Xiaomi 15 can do 3k single 9k multi th-cam.com/video/XKNyWackuFo/w-d-xo.html
Geekerwan also managed over 10k.
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apple will put thier m series chips in phones now
May be something with the same DNA. No way can they fit the same M series chip in a mobile motherboard. It's way too big.
do you know how big a M series chip is?
@@Shahzad1235716 core cpu & 40 core gpu in 8mm thick phone? With 5000mah battery? 10000mah battery? How can you power that cpu & gpu without active cooling?
@@MaRvElOuSmAhEnDrA that's what i am sayin
Dimensity 9400 is more power efficient and runs cooler for given target performance compared to 8 elite.
Not always. They are all close by due to using TSMC's latest 3nm node.
Check Geekerwan's Xiaomi 15 video, it's even more efficient than OnePlus 13. Almost shaving 0.5W-0.7W more.
I completely agree with you
Would someone inform this non sense guy, android doesn't operate on locked down ios operating system...
I lost some braincells reading this comment. Bruv you speak English?