Ikr, the fact that Bethesda went to court with the author of the Redfall books for that name, and then it just ended up being the name of another generic, subpar vampire game… just astounding.
@@dps9390 Sorry, did they not just show the most lackluster gameplay possible during their one opportunity to show the best possible aspects of it? My god, you’re probably still some naive little bgs fanboy who’s overhyping Starfield after that disaster, and defending 76. Just sad. Go back to Reddit, can’t have to straying too far from the hive mind. Might be exposed to reality.
I can actually see that happening. It’ll basically be like Fallout 4s settlement building but instead of homes, you’re building castles and defenses and leading an entire army against the Aldmeri Dominion.
@@ZombieGangster that could be what the Skyrim Civil War questline should have been. Help the Redguards in their war with the Thalmor. Siege cities and territories relinquished by the empire, build up city defenses and forts and checkpoints on the major roads. Could be a really cool part of the game as long as it doesn't become intrusive or interrupt whatever else you'd rather be doing.
Silly man, shame you aren’t a superior breed. I’ll think of you when I play ES6 on my arm, or fridge…or maybe oven depending on how many versions they release.
I have always thought they wanted to control Adamantine Tower, as it was the first tower made directly by the gods, hammerfell was also invaded so it seemed like they wanted to go in that direction. They would use the tower stone to reclaim godhood or shape Mundus to their own liking. I also read somewhere about a vault in Adamantine tower and thought Lorkhans body was there, he would be in prisoned of his own prison (Mundus). I tried to turn this idea into a dnd campaign where Lorkhan would ask the players to stop the Thalmor to save his mundus, and then piece together his power by rebuilding his heart. This would be a double cross with Lorkhan going to full strength to punish the Divines who imprisoned him and the Daedra who didnt help him in creating Mundus.
I think it'd also be cool if you incorporated some of thebither pantheon ideals, cus clearly Alduin and Tsuhn are real so it'd be cool to have the Nordic version of the Divines, or maybe they're separate entities
And what about the Magna-Ge? (The gods who started the creation of mundas under the leadership of Magnus and bailed mid-way through). I love this theory by the way.
@@tigervalley62 Well the Magna-Ge would not be aware of Lorkhans true plans or that he would go back to full power. The constellation star guardians (Warrior, Thief, Mage) would guard the vault and only by beating all three would Lorkhan gain more power and freedom. Magnus would join in a fight to stop Lorkhan and send him back to mundus, but not to imprison him just keep him away from aetherius. Funny enough Magnus only cares for himself + Magna-Ge + Aetherius and not mundus. So lorkhan isnt his problem unless he threatens those three things.
I wonder if it is significant that the Greymoor expansion to ESO has you start a new character in the Adamantine Tower, and even see a part of the core of the tower. The previous expansion Summerset had the Crystal tower, and attempts to destroy it, where we are told quite a bit how the tower exists across alternate universes at the same time.
Exactly. That quest specifically, and the numerous foreshadowing that occurs throughout Skyrim revolving around the Thalmor and emphasis on Hammerfell gives it away. In the opening scene of Skyrim, both Hammerfell and the Thalmor are mentioned.
Isn't the empire a result of a dragonborn fighting elves as well? If that is the case this almost seems cyclical. Some force tries to destroy the world, be it elves or dragon, a dragonborn rises up to face them, overcomes and in time the story plays out anew.
@@alpha_9997 You seem to be forgetting that the inciting incident of Oblivion was that all but one of the Dragonborn had been slaughtered by the Mythic Dawn. Furthermore, the final story quest ends with that last Dragonborn's death. So if the world ends when the Dragonborn dies then Tamriel would've ended in the 3rd Era, roughly 200 years before Alduin's return, if not earlier.
@@mutualdecline2174 The Skyrim Dragonborn and the Septim Dragonborns are technically different lore wise due to one having a dragon soul and the other having dragon blood.
@@JollyOldCanuck They're pretty much one of the same but even if true, no one can say for certain that the Septim bloodline weren't one or the other since dragons weren't around in their era's. Even if we were to be technical about the two I doubt Bethesda is actually following such logic in the next installment of Elder Scrolls. There was no need to create text saying that the last dragonborn would be in the 4E if they weren't going to close that chapter & move on in my opinion.
The Direnni/Adamantium Tower is the only active tower not in the hands of the Thalmor. All others are either under their control (Valenwood/Somerset), had their stones removed (Cyrodil, Skyrim) or were outright destroyed (Red Mountain, Yokuda)
if this were to be the case, I can kinda imagine a Dragon Break taking place. not that they even need a reason to happen to begin with, I know, but it could be that Bethesda, finally, after so many years, makes TES' main story have a final choice again, it being whether or not the protagonist ultimately decides to allow the Thalmor to go forward with their plan or not, or maybe reshape Mundus to their (the protagonist's) own will... but because it's a Dragon Break, all of this happens at the same time and we end up with some wacky outcome, like half of the aldmeri or human population dead, a new Divine (or more) and some other huge change in paradigm
Something greatly overlooked is the redguards in skyrim. If you side with Kematu in one of the earliest quests in the game, he mentions the “resistance against the thalmor is alive and well in hammerfell” assuming the next game takes place there…
Last time I found a comment this funny it was five minutes ago when someone made another joke with nothing to do with the video for the millionth time, but which is loosely related via a piece of lore of the games, so that people can pat themselves on the back for understanding this very basic reference, while also being generic enough to spam post on every elder scrolls video for the maximum amount of fake internet points. Truly, just hilarious!
@@kas1xshindeiru Aww, inserting your opinion where it isn’t wanted, that’s so cute! Keep on, lil guy, maybe someday someone will care what you have to think
@@cabbagecash2862 Wait, did you just revive a dead conversation so that you could tell someone else that they need to stop taking the internet conversations seriously? Lmfao the levels of pathetic
Yes. Dark Brotherhood is what makes me excited for the next Elder Scrolls. I wonder how their new outfit looks like and hopefully we get an amazing DB questline.
@@mountainaccident2001 So far we already know: The DB in cyrodill was basically rekt because of the events of the Oblivion storyline, the black hand doesn't exist anymore and the brotherhood are basically non existent in Skyrim. We even know from lines in Skyrim that the Shadowscales are basically no more which implies their influence in Black Marsh is gone. If there is a DB questline they're probably going to be very different as I doubt the Dragonborn stuck around long enough to be the nightmothers speaker for everyone.
They may be regrown as an originzarion, or they might just not be a thing. The Dark Brotherhood was only joinable in the last two TES games, they’re actually a fairly recent addition, and games did fine without them
It's gonna have less content than skyrim, be always online with no npcs and just enemy's like F76, with a battle pass to unlock the dragonborn thanos skin for 19.99, be buggier than a chaurus and released early unfinished after starfield inevitably fails for being a shit version of skyrim with guns...but in space. Am I missing anything?
@Giga_chad hurts bro 😭 gaming is dead, shill cash grabs made by untalented but educated people, massively corporated asking people to shill out 100bucks for games with a battle pass that's just content already created but re-sold as new when it had always been withing the code, remakes of once great masterpieces of media re-sold and increased in price for a new engine but no soul, celebs promoting dead kickstarter games that are unfinished yet still somehow have more polish than Bethesda ones, this the world we inhabit brother, wake up and smell the ashes.
That's because Alduin always is going to eat the world, teh DB just delayed it for a few centuries. I doubt we'll see Alduin in TES 6, or any other sequels for that matter. Alduin is complex lore wise, its hinted multiple times that he might just literally be an embodiment/aspect of Akatosh, the god of time.
Alduin's soul didn't get absorbed because he still has a purpose. akatosh made him so when the time is right, alduin can destroy the world and it will be reborn anew. alduin went power hungry in skyrim that's why you have to stop him cause hes trying to destroy mundus too early. and thats why his soul didnt get absorbed, because he still has a job to do
Alduin wasn't ending the world like he was supposed to instead he was trying to rule the world. Thats why we killed him it was so the natural order could take place. In a way we stopped the return of the Dragon Cult of old however we also doomed the world.
It is also important to mention that there doesn't have to be only one dragonborn living at a time, there can be several, as implied by what the greybeards say.
@@mutualdecline2174 By "The Last Dragonborn", the prophesy means the last person of dragonblood to kill dragons, or more specifically the last one to fight Alduin and mark a permanent end to the rule of the dragons. After all, another translation of "Dovahkiin" is "dragonslayer". If there are no more dragons to slay, there will still be people with dragonblood, but no dragons to slay, so there can still be more dragonborns after Alduin's defeat, just without the prophesy to fulfill anymore.
@@pashico7082 I'm not following u. Every dragonborn has the soul of a dragon & can absorb power from their slain brethren. The ancient nord heros killed dragons & none of them were dragonborn. The prophecy stated when exactly the last dragonborn would appear. After the fall of several towers, a weakened empire & alduin's return. I'm interpreting that as saying the last dragonborn would appear in the 4E, regardless of the reason why. I may be wrong but there's nothing to suggest that another dragonborn could appear after what the prophesy claimed that the last, not the next, would appear after the fall of the white tower. Dovahkiin is just another meaning of dragonborn but in dragon tongue.
@@mutualdecline2174 The "ancient nord heroes" weren't dragonborn because they didn't have the dragon blood. There are two translations of Dovahkiin (Dragonborn): the normal interpretation of being "of dragonkind" (that is, a person with dragonblood), and "dragonslayer" (the ULTIMATE dragonslayer as they can absorb the souls of dragons). Alduin's wall was built by the ancestors of the Blades, who use the second interpretation of "dragonborn". Both definitions are technically interlinked, as the second definition is caused by the first one being true, however since the prophesy has been fulfilled, that second definition no longer applies as Alduin has been defeated. Therefore, it can be said that "The Last Dragonborn" refers to the last ultimate dragonslayer of dragonblood, but not the last person of dragonblood.
@@pashico7082 I doubt Bethesda did that purposely just to bring ES6 out with the main character being "dragonborn" because in actuality, the last "ultimate dragonslayer" was the one prophesied as the last dragonborn, not a dragonborn with that of dragon blood or otherwise labeled dovahkiin. I think all of this is one of the same and the Era of dragonborn is over. ES6 will be a completely different experience though I wouldn't mind a more complete experience as dragonborn since Bethesda completely missed the mark with skyrim.
I read in an in-game book (they might even mention it elsewhere) that the leader of the Thalmor was hung for 39 days from the white gold tower when Titus Mead II took it back after a short siege. On the 39th day an account witnessed a winged daedra carry him off. I always thought of that as a possible future bad guy to pop up. Elves live for a pretty long time. Especially if they make a pact with a possible Daedric Prince.... He had a cool name started with an A I think. just can't think of it at the moment.
The connection between the Towers and the Thalmor is not canon, and much of that comes from the writings of Kirkbride after he left Bethesda. What you are referring to is an unlicensed text called An Altmeri Commentary on Talos written by Kirkbride. And even then, that text does not refer to the Towers as part of the plan to unmake the world. Yes, the Towers are speculated to stabilize Mundus, but it does not state anywhere in canon that the Thalmor wish to destroy them and return to the primordial soup. It would be super cool if TES6 had this as the main storyline, and it very well could be canonized, but at the moment it isn't.
The Towers are certainly established in canon lore, if not with as much detail as Kirkbride added later. There's no explicit mention *yet* that the Thalmor have plans to destroy them... but plenty of explicit detail regarding Altmeri belief that Mundus is a prison and they wish to return to formless godhood. It's certainly implied...
@@Charles-hm5zj You’re correct, it does say this in Varieties of Faith that Auri-El ascended to heaven so that he could teach his followers, the Aldmer, the steps to escaping the mortal plane. To them Lorkhan is the enemy. Still, it is not confirmed that the Thalmor are going after the Towers and have the desire to unmake Mundus. It would awesome if TES6 did this, but it’s unfortunately not confirmed yet and I wouldn’t give my hopes up. I also never said the Towers and their nature were not canonical. It is speculated in the Mythic Dawn Commentaries that the Towers are important.
It may not be considered canon but let's be honest here, Kirkbride is why we have such interesting and rich lore for the elder scrolls universe. Plus from what I heard Bethesda does take ques from his writings and do implement some of it in the games.
@@BansheeKing22 You mean Bethesda has taken inspiration from the stuff after he left or before he left the company? If they're taking inspiration from stuff he wrote before he left, that would make sense since it's canon. If they're taking inspiration from stuff he wrote after he left, then that's news to me. Do you know examples of the latter because I'm genuinely curious. The only one that comes to mind is the Lesson 37, but Kirkbride himself was commissioned to write it and makes explicit reference to C0DA.
I just hope TESVI takes place in Alinor or Valenwood. If it's in Hammerfell that would be three games in a row that take place in a human province. I miss how unique and alien Morrowind, there aren't any real-world analogues to Vvardenfell in the same way there are to Cyrodiil and Skyrim. Plus I miss all of the crazy Bosmer from Oblivion.
I definitely think they are going to finish the provinces of man first then start getting into the cool alien provinces. They sadly butchered both Cyrodiil and Skyrim compared to the lore.
@@deeznutz1601 Hopefully they do Hammerfell justice. I want ruins and cities exposed by one blast of wind, and buried by another. I want skies made dark red with wind-blown dust and the sacred red morning mist which rises from beneath the sands. I want mountainous stone fields with green scrub and streams of Caribbean-blue water. I want to feel like a sword martial-arts practitioner, and all the complexity that comes with that. Mountaintop glaciers with crashed Direnni sky ships. A ship of my own to sail and crash through clear crystal Abacean waves. Shanties to sing. Places to discover. A Moor adventure sim through-and-through.
@@BestKCL Exactly what people wanted in Skyrim. A land of frozen waste and mythical/beautiful creatures. From were beast to flying sea creatures to large clans of vampires. Filled with brigands, wildmen and groups of nords that dont even know about the outside world. A land many call home but others wouldn't dare venture through because of the many dangers. A people with a rough history, a different pantheon of gods, etc. They have warred with many neighboring nations or even conquered them during the 1st Era. Many city states in Hammerfell, and highrock that have a large Nordic influence (think Bruma). I mean they dont even reference Dragonstar in Skyrim from what I remember. They didn't completely butcher the Nords or anything and they even added on to them with the dragon cult Ysgramor connection. But they definitely didn't do them as much justice as they could have.
My character is not gonna be sitting her ass in Mora's realm. Shes out conquering the world for herself. She's also a Legate with the Legion. She killed Ulfric and she's ready to put down the Thalmor.
it would be pretty dope for the dwemer to have a role in some prophecy, their demise was ambiguous and since the science and methods they used with the heart of lorkhan resulted in them instantly disappearing from the mortal realm (unknown if they were erased or if they maybe managed to transcend the mortal plane and take the whole race with them since their goal wasn't to worship the gods but to be the gods) perhaps we would utilize some type of similar magic to make a drastic change needed to keep the the world from ending for the 50th time
Well...there's a problem in saying Skyrim may predict Elder Scrolls 6 as, they actually ignored some of the lore for the sake of convenience when it came to provinces seceding from the Empire. Originally, The Hero of Kavatch had to slog his/her way through all of the oblivion gates because the empire refused to recall troops that were battling on other fronts against the Oblivion invasion. Instead in Elder Scrolls 6, they retconed it so the Empire DID pull it's troops back during the Oblivion Crisis, just so there was a reason the other provinces felt abandoned. So be prepared that, Bethesda will change their own lore on a whim to suit whatever story they have i mind.
I don't think thats fair. IIRC Its never said they went directly back to Cyrodil, I got the impression it meant they retreated to strategically important locations within the provinces and took and off hand approach with trying to survive the OC. You also have to remember that we don't know how the OC affected the other provinces bar a few details, if Kvatch was able to be wiped out under the empires nose who knows what other settlements got ruined along with any legions stationed to protect them. In TES 4 Chancellor Ocato even says all of his generals are telling him the legions cannot be pulled back, so we can only assume there was heavy fighting taking place. We can even see in previous games the empire never had an iron grip, Morrowind showed that the affairs of the Dunmer were practically their own. so many of the provinces already had a lot of autonomy - even Cyrodil had enough autonomy to assemble a large standing army for the battle of Bruma with no help from the Legion. If we take Black Marsh for instance they were only able to hold off an invasion due to the hist fully mobilising the Argonians and Zergrushing the gates to the point that Dagon decided it wasn't even worth trying to take black marsh and just closed all the gates. So now there is a huge argonian army with nothing to do and a broken and battered imperial legion. It only makes sense that the empire would be forced to retreat and leave them be (especially seeing as how Argonians would have been more motivated to fight after a huge victory while also being bolstered by the fact they have a huge bone to pick with the Dunmer, which we know they later DID as later invaded Morrowind) Theres more to it than "dey changed muh lore", the empire lost its heir, the official symbol of the right to rule (Amulet of Kings), lost a major city in its heartland and was destabilised greatly. It makes sense that a rebellion could take place in Skyrim and that the Summerset Isles and Black Marsh could break away because, really, what right does an empire with a new non-septim dynasty have to rule those lands?
That's how TES has always been, retcons are even a part of the lore in the form of Dragon Breaks. If you want consistency in lore, TES is absolutely not the place.
@@Jaeger_Bishop It is a good thing, its just different and not for people who want certainty in their lore. TES lore is filled with contradictions and is evolving over time, with canon depending on the person. There's so much to interpret and discuss. Just like real mythologies. It makes it a lot more interesting IMO.
My theory is that TES 6 will center around the Direnni Tower. The oldest tower and first building ever created in Tamriel. I also believe that the celestials will play a big role in the central plot. Specifically the serpent celestial. I do think the second great war will be a big theme in TES 6 but not the focal point of the story.
I agree that the thalmor will be the next great enemy, for me it feels like the high elves are being controlled by few terrible individuals, who don't care about any mortal, high elf or not, they will try to destroy mundus and steal the power of the 9 divines
Considering the strides in technology Bethesda has been taking, PLUS their new engine they shelled out millions for, it's going to be massive. I doubt it'll have the same marketing and commercial success as Skyrim but time will tell. After how big Skyrim was in terms of size, and the announcement trailer showing Hammerfell and potentially High Rock, I imagine the game will seamlessly let you enter both continents, on both sides of the map, each with their own culture, governing, and currency. I definitely see the Thalmor being the enemies of the game, the fact that they love modeling dragons and eagles into their armor and weapons is a sure sign they just might want to take the mantle of world-eater from the late Alduin. Making themselves into the new version of the Mythic Dawn, causing all kind of problems in an attempt to destroy the world, sounds like something they'd do. Imagine if they won the second great war and made mankind into vassals? Talk about depressing.
Ah yes, the strides in technology and massive improvements that that claim to have made…. But clearly have no shown. Those same improvements that they have claimed to have made in every single game previously released. Remember, sixteen times the detail? There’s a reason why the entire internet simultaneously groaned and face palmed when they announced that TES:VI will be made in the creation engine; it sucks.
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Is there proof of that statement? That it’ll be in the creation engine? I’d love to see official word on something that hasn’t even progressed past the concept phase….
@@90snetworkproductions79 We’ve known this for years, why do you think the creation engine became such a topic of debate three years ago? Do you even pay attention to Bethesda? Next thing I know you’re gonna tell me that TES:VI is gonna come out next year because “NoBoDy kNoWs, ShOw Me ThE PrOoF!!!” Which one of the dozens of articles do you want me to link to, take the five second to type it into the search bar yourself you lazy arse, I’m not your slave. This is basic knowledge, don’t ask me to show you the proof that 2 + 2 does indeed equal 4 because of you being too lazy to use common sense.
But then every game they have released has been a steady progression of less and less content, choices and role-playability. So it doesn't matter if they spent millions on a new engine if they write another crap story with less gameplay. Skyrim was a downgrade from its predecessors. And Oblivion before it was a downgrade from morrowind. Sure they improve some aspects but it takes away heavily from others. If you played Morrowind you remember levitation and how much fun that was. And then it was dropped in Oblivion with a crap excuse as to why, just because they didn't want to have to spend more time building intricate caves and such into the world that could utilize it. In both Oblivion and Morrowind how you levelled mattered but in Skyrim you're going to basically do the same things. Combat did feel nicer in Skyrim compared to Oblivion and Morrowind, but only because the dicerole mechanic of Morrowind would break your immersion when you fired an arrow through someones head without damage and Oblivion had enemies that wouldn't even flinch most of the time when hit, while a couple of rats were quite capable of stun-locking you in heavy armour with flinching. There was less dialogue options after Morrowind and less choices that mattered. Voice acting plays a major role in that downgrade. What I expect of TES 6 is a Skyrim system remake with gameplay being just about as passive. Follow the marker to your exact destination and don't worry about thinking how to play or the future of your character because no choices matter and you can do everything in the one run.
In my opinion, since from what context clues we know from the only trailer for ES6, the main story will probably involve Meridia, and the Sload, seeing as how the trailer seems to focus on the Iliac Bay, which from what I've read of the lore there tend to be sightings of the Sload every so often there, and the fact that Meridia does not have the best relationship with the people who live there, it will probably involve either a major sidequest or mainstory quest with the Sload (who are necromancers) and Meridia cultists in a desperate battle for the region.
id like to think that the dragonborn is there and is somehow neutered by new magics maybe when you create a new game it asks for save data from skyrim for a hidden cameo like the new ebony warrior.
No, that would be terrible. We already know the Dragonborn is going to be Moras thrall anyway so we might get a hint of their fate in Moras questline in six. TES games don't work with the protags meeting eachother, that's why in Oblivion it says the protagonist of Morrowind left for Akavir because if they were there during the events of Oblivion they'd have been able to solve the crisis themselves. And in Skyrim Sheogorath only hints very very slightly that he in infact the Hero of Kvatch - and I'd say they could only really get away with that because the Hero has become the embodiment of Sheo and has quite literally turned into him.
The next "Hero" or "Main Protagonist" of ES6 will be none other then the reincarnation of Hundings. The mythical hero that comes to the aid of the Regadan(Red Guard) people in their times of need. And since the Dominion is all but poised to Ravage Hammerfell, the Empire being keen on reconquering it and the infighting factions all looming on the horizon its the perfect timing. Next up the "Super Power" that will replace shouting will be sword-singing aka a manifestation of ones soul in to a weapon, typically a sword. But they can and will bend that lore to encompass all the powers and abilities that used to belong to the "shouts" in Skyrim.
The problem Alduin didn't want to do what he was created to do. He wanted to rule nirm. He disobeyed and the character the dragonborn ( in my playthru is an imperial human) was meant to defeat alduin. As Aldine had no intention to destroying the world as he wanted to control it and so the dragonborn defeated him.
It would be pretty cool for ES6 if you could “import” your Dragonborn like how Dragon Age Inquisition you can import hawk. Won’t be playable, but you can see your overpowered boi do some crazy stuff from the perspective of someone else. But yea most likely they won’t show.
Yes it would be cool I remember Dragon Age Origins Imports into Dragon Age 2. It would be great if your Dragonborn could import into ES6 and technology wise it's entirely plausible.
Based on what happened to the protagonists of the other four games the Dragonborn will be either sent on an adventure to Akavir, disappear, or become trapped in Apocrypha.
Interesting video, but I don't think it will be so: every single TES game has had a different hero; the Eternal Champion, the Agent, the Nerevarine, the Hero of Kvatch and finally the Dragonborn. I have a feeling they will pull a Dragon Break on the Skyrim timeline for TES VI, and just do whetever on earth they want... with a new character. Hell, it could be the Hero of Ionith, for all we know. It ciuld ve set in Akavir, going from tge lands of the Kamal towards the desert lands of the Ka Po Tun...
If they make Thalmor the main antagonists in ES6 Bethesda better make the main character like Pelinal Whitestrake. But even if they don't, there's nothing a mod can't fix.
I love Oblivion so much, in terms of playing before the game mechanics were/are outdated - it was probably my favourite game of all time. BUT one thing that's awesome about Skyrim and I would be really sad to loose in future ES games is...Dragon shouting. I don't know if I can go back to playing a "normal" character after being a dragonborn 😢
I get that the whole Thalmor thing will probably be the main plot of 6, but I really don't want that. Each Elder Scrolls game is it's own story and stands by itself. The events of the previous games doesn't directly determine the next game. I don't want 6 to just be a direct sequel to Skyrim where it just continues the story where it left off.
we have side quests for a reason which could mould and possibly affect 6 canonically, its however inevitable that the main mission wont have the thalmor because it would not make sense especially if the province is chosen to be hammerfell and we will definitely witness sword swinging as a power, if I am wrong with this prediction how would you make eso 6 without having Skyrim effect its timeline, how many years would you put in between? if I remember correctly Skyrim and oblivion have a 200 year difference.
We bareley saw the Thalmor in Skyrim, all of it was basically foreshadowing. If the game is set in Hammerfell it is almost definitely going to be Hammerfell vs Altmer because we know there was conflict between the two. Personally, I wanted High Rock as brentons are criminally underrated so I get where you're coming from. Also you're wrong about them not affecting eachother. The first 4 games all take place with emperor Uriel Septim in power and all take place over a 44 year time span of his reign. The games basically chronicle the empires growth to unity and power, peaking between Morrowind and Oblvion, then ending in its downfall in 4. Everything that happens in Skyrim is directly caused by the Oblivion Crisis and Uriels death. They aren't directly linked but they are HEAVILY influenced by each other. Every game is teased bt the previous games, Morrowind had a line that said what was going to happen in Oblivion and I hink even daggerfall showed that the next two games would be titled "Morrowind" and "Oblivion", there is clearly some foresight
@@big_slurp4603 I think you are misinterpreting my point. I'm not saying the games have nothing to do with the previous ones. 100% every game builds up to the next one and teases things to come. My point is, non of the games have plots that revolve around major plots of the previous ones. Arena: Emperor is Kidnapped and a False Emperor is placed. You must save the Emperor and stop the False one and restore order. Daggerfall: The game takes place in the Iliac where the ghost of the Last King is Haunting the City of Daggerfall. You must travel all over to find out what is happening and why he is haunting the place. Along with that, a massive Dwarven God has gone missing and several factions wish to take control of it. If you managed to figure that plot out from the plot of Arena then you are a psychic. Morrowind: Game takes place on the other side of the continent on the island of Vvardenfell where three living gods are losing their power because the creator gods heart is inside of the Volcano and an ancient person who vanished and has returned as an imaginary immortal god is using that heart to invade the dreams of the nation, transform people into zombies, and building a New Numidium. You are the reincarnation of an ancient Chimer king and War Leader who is prophesied by Azura to stop this new god and the Three Living Gods. If Daggerfall made it obvious that this would be the plot of the next game then we didn't play the same version of Daggerfall. Oblivion: The game takes place in Cyrodiil where a cult has killed emperor Urethra Scrotum the Seventh and all of his kids. The forces of Hell invade the entire continent and lay waste the almost everything. You find the Emperor's Bastard son who transform's into and Avatar of Akatosh (Also known as the Old Smaug Himself) to battle Mehrunes Dagon and save the continent. How anyone managed to predict that from any of the main parts of Morrowind is beyond me. Skyrim: 200 years after Oblivion, after the Empire has suffered major loses, an Elven uprising has almost full control, of the continent and the Empire has ben forced into submissions. Skyrim is stuck in a civil war over the worship of Talos along with Hammerfell, Blackmarsh, Morrowind, Summerset, Valenwood, and Elswyr seceding. If this wasn't bad enought, Dragons have retuned and Alduin has come back (or forward) to destroy all life and eat the world. You are a Dragonborn who can absorb the souls of Dragons and you are the only hope to save all life from the Dragons. If you managed to predict any of that after you beat Oblivion, then you are cheating because you work at Bethesda. Elder Scrolls 6: Hammerfell is in an uneasy alliance as the Crowns and Forebears create a tense alliance to battle the Invading Aldemri Forces. The ongoing Civil War in Skyrim has kept the Empire weakened and due to the lack of trust against the Empire, Hammerfell is left to fend for itself. You are an aspect of Hunding and you united the people of Hammerfell to stop the Aldmeri threat and end their Elven Supremacy. If you managed to figure that out, then you played Skyrim because it almost spells it out for you. My point is the plot shouldn't be predictable. For ES6 to be the greatest game in the series it should have the most predictable plot. Yes Skyrim set up the Aldmeri Dominion plot up but so what? Don't make this game obvious. Come up with a unique plot that doesn't make this game Skyrim 2. Imagine waiting 15 years for a game only to have the plot be seen form a mile away. Remember Fallout 4? Years before that game was ever teased of announced, everyone and their mother was saying that the game will probably take place in Boston and involve the Institute which was set up in Fallout 3. It had the most predictable plot, and the main story of that game sucked. I agree that Bethesda will probably make ES6 about the Second Great war. That doesn't mean I can't hope they will treat us with respect and give us a plot that can stand on it's own like all of the other main games. I just really don't want to wait 15 years for a game that sucks.
How did the institute came up in Fallout 3?? I may have a faltering memory or I never knew this! Also the Boston prediction was one of the few big ones from what I remember, but I don't remember it being THE most valid prediction. But please show me a video or link to the institute being in F3 i really wanna see how i missed it
I think everyone here knows the Thalmor are going to play a heavy role in the game no matter what. However, I think they will be secondary villains similar to skyrim and we have someone else like Alduin playing the main villain. Or worst case scenario we jump another 200 years into the future, the 2nd great war already happened and the dominion are destroyed and a relic of the past we read in books, and the political landscape is completely new. I doubt this would happen due to the build up of the Thalmor plot line, but it could happen if Bethesda are stupid.
My reason for thinking that it will be a somewhat sequel is that TESV doesn’t just wrap-up a narrative. There’s no universal lore way to go forward without having a canon winner of the civil war, for instance, much less the inevitable Great Northern War II which is coming no matter who wins Skyrim’s civil war. Taking that decision out of players’ hands will piss a lot of people off too.
I heard a theory that the Stormcloaks initially win, and then the Empire sends some troops from the Dominion/cyrodilic border and reconquers them shortly afterwards when they are weak. The reason for this, is because the main road from Cyrodill to Skyrim gets blocked off by an avalanche, and during the Stormcloak path line, you can see the road cleared from a fort in Falkreath. Whereas it remains closed off during the imperial plot line. Could be wrong, but that's a theory some believe.
No major plot and lore points like that have happened not in games more than they've happened in the games. There will be most likely a 200-year jump, just like oblivion to Skyrim. That will HOPEFULLY be enough to create room for a new fresh story that isn't just Skyrim 2. New antagonists are imperative to an elder scrolls story. In every game we have fought new enemies and a new antagonist.
I'm gonna guess it will take place in Black Marsh with the Thalmor trying to take over and you'll have to decide to help free the Aragonians or help the Thalmor subjugate them.
Honestly can't wait for TES 6 to release, this will be my go to lore channel hands down! Love every piece of content iv ever watch from you and it's built my knowledge on the series aton, keep up the great work!
Lets be Realistic: I believe that the ES6 will be placed in the new engine "Creation Engine 2." Confidently watching Starfield & Knowing that it's being built on this one. At this very moment as I make this post that Todd Howard's interview stated that the reason they're not focusing on ES6 at the moment is because it's already in a playable state... Here are a few theories of what my predictions are going to be during the main Quest line & Location of what will happen... I theorize that the Main protagonist will be the Dragonborn again, Because an Immortal being & Being the Last Dragonborn. Let's get into the theory. - The Betrayal of the White Gold Concordat. (Being the Last Dragonborn) Cyrodiil the Thalmor has taken over the Adamantine tower & the likelihood of the Dragonborn is constantly being hunted and tried to be defeated, Because they want to rekindle the fires of the tower to Reach Akatosh to Enslave the Dragon to have some leverage over the dragons Including Dragonborn. - We'll either see a very flourishing guilds that managed to "Get to it's most powerful". Assassin's, Thieves, Fighter & Mages guild have their own power & influence as they were assisted to grow. - The Dragon Pandemic is also problematic. Since Alduin was the World Eater itself, He cannot be defeated instructed by Paarthornax. He said. Paarthurnaax: The prophecy says that only the Dragonborn can stop him.) True… But qostiid - prophecy - tells what may be, not what should be. Qostiid sahlo aak. Just because you can do a thing, does not always mean you should. Do you have no better reason for acting than destiny? Are you nothing more than a plaything of dez… of fate?" (Going through the Quest dialog you will come to "I like this world I don't want it to end" Parthurnaax: Pruzah. As good a reason as any. There are many who feel as you do, although not all. Some would say that all things must end, so that the next can come to pass. Perhaps this world is simply the Egg of the next kalpa? Lein vokiin? Would you stop the next world from being born?" Then there is a Dialogue "The Next world will have to take care of itself." Parthurnax is intrigued. Paaz. A fair answer. Ro fus… maybe you only balance the forces that work to quicken the end of this world. Even we who ride the currents of Time cannot see past Time's end… Wuldsetiid los tahrodiis. Those who try to hasten the end, may delay it. Those who work to delay the end, may bring it closer." This is a major support on what this video entails... The Dragonborn just "Prevented" the inevitable demise of the world for a certain amount of time... Since Alduin was cast Adrift in time, Alduin will return & will have great vengeance. This is because Dragonborn defeated him "Today" in Skyrim... But He will have to also defeat him back where Time will cast itself back reviving Alduin. What I expect from the ES6 is that we will have a Dragonborn that likely will be trying to evade the world & realizing his actions caused conflicts, Dragons still plague the land & now without Alduin's lordship Dragonborn has issues attempting to persuade the dragons that he will become the Leader, But because of Akatosh being summoned and resurrected. Their immediate loyalties come to their God & because Dragonborn is a Traitor of Akatosh, He is not happy that he has slain his Son. But it's no coincidence that a Dragonborn just suddenly appears. (It goes back to our reasons to travel the border to Cyrodiil.) The very purpose of our game. (With that I will end the theory.) Because More is to come.
Just like the idea that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the hero of Kvatch, would love to see at least some books, dialogues, or implications as to the Dragonborn's whereabouts after Skyrim. Maybe dialogues of some travelers or farmers having sightings of the dragonborn.
I would actually like to play as the Thalmor. I know it's weird, but I've always felt that the series is kind of an objective story (everything that happens isn't inherently good or bad) told by biased people (who fight against the events because to them it's bad), and while I don't think they are right, the potential roleplay and immersion I could get by seeing their perspective on history and understanding them as more then the egotistical villains sounds like a lot of fun.
Something like Assassins Creed Rogue where you play as a Templar. Yes it's not a role playing game, but many AC fans have a soft spot for that game because it deals with exactly this. The journey of a man questioning his beliefs and choosing the belief he once considered evil upon reflection and self-discovery. It was incredibly interesting and fun to play witnessing and understanding the ideology from the villains perspective.
This theory also goes a long way to explaining why we never got a conclusion to the Thalmor and Stormcloak/Empire tensions in Skyrim itself. The game just runs out of quests without ever dealing with the implied conflict between those factions, it would make sense for it to be the foreshadowing of the next game.
Would be soooooo fucking cool if the Dragonborn is mentioned or is a boss in some way, my headcanon is that the Dragonborn ends up as a champion/servant to Hermaeus Mora, being the replacement to Miraak. The protagonist of the next Elder Scrolls game would need to venture to the other Daedric Realms of Oblivion to understand or have more insight in how to stop or prevent the Thalmor's plans since their ideology went as far as not only erasing Mundus but the entire creation of Daedra and Aedra, during the protagonist's travels between realms they would be battling a boss "Dovahkiin" in Mora's plane of Oblivion, and the Dovahkiin would be spamming shouts like an actual demigod-like being instead of waiting for cooldowns
I think in Elder Scroll 6 we will see the aftermath of the second great war and also the fall of the empire, not by stormcloaks but by thalmor. but I really hope that the Dragonborn will lead the blades and unknowingly help the Thalmor or lead the Dragons to save the Empire.
I mean they consider creation club cannon since it’s technology not mods. With that being said they had the creation club guest where u had to save the Red Guard soldier or whatever the hell he was. And he was being guarded by the high elfs
I honestly hope they do a big-time skip again and it isn't just the thalmor or even the Thalmor at all we fight because it'll just be Skyrim 2. The Dragonborn is immortal so he would definitely be alive or an NPC if he doesn't die from some lore reason. It'd be better to do another 170-year time skip and have a new antagonist and story. Though I know they probably won't do this because the story is obviously in high rock area where the adamantine tower is. And the thalmor will probably be trying to get control of it. Just seems like it'll be not as interesting and not give as much of a sense of wonder and intrigue with a world more or less familiar with more or less the same things going on. Every elder scrolls game has brought a new surprise and mystery. The realm of Dagon, dragons, Dagoth, etc. I hope it isn't generic feeling or too familiar to Skyrim. Mechanically and story-wise.
IM hoping Elder Scrolls 6 will take place not long after skyrim and will involve the story in skyrim in some way after all this is still a relatively fresh chapter in the elder scrolls story and so many questions were left unanswered though it has been over a decade since it's release.
There's always a tease, but all the off key remarks are so dense in every game it's hard to say which one could be the tease. But man do I want to fight some Thalmor!
a lot of people thought the college of winterhold quest line was boring but I think it has potential context for a future game. say your prediction is right? the only faction quest line in Skyrim that feature the thalmor is the CoWH with ancano as the main antagonist. in the quest line, you discover the eye of Magnus which ancano tries to harvest power from. while trying to take control of the eye I remember arcane says "I have the power to undo this world" or something along the lines of that. also during the quest where you go find the staff of Magnus Mirabelle Ervine says "the synod were amassing weapons of great magical power". So the thalmor try and steal the eye of Magnus? the empire tries to take the staff off Magnus amongst other weapons? the status of aldemiri and the empire relations are shaky at best, not at war but not necessarily at peace, its giving Cold War vibes in a way. I think the next game will either be about gathering these "weapons" or is going to be set in another Great War. also I think TES6 will be set in a portion of Hammerfell and the entirety of high rock or vice versa.
I wonder if the protagonist of the next game will be the "Hoonding." Being in Hammerfell, it makes the most sense and they are the literal incarnation of "perseverance over infidels," which I I think the Redguards will need.
Imagine if you could join the Thalmor and help with their war on mankind, that would open up a whole load of roleplaying possibilities, especially for those who like playing evil characters
As much as that would be an amazing option for roleplay, I don't think Bethesda would even consider it. There was no choice to join Dagoth Ur, or the mythic dawn. And ending the world would leave the possibility of a future game obsolete and or confusing. So I think Bethesda would just do what they've always done and that's railroad the protagonist down the path of a hero. Though it would be cool if you could maybe betray the Thalmor?
@@cole6370 yeah good point. You can’t even join them in Skyrim aside from making friends with that one dude in Markarth. Kinda sucks from a roleplay standpoint but Bethesda obviously has plans regarding them.
Generally agree, though what I look to is there potentially being some third party that the Thalmor are not expecting being the real threat or that the Thalmor start to enact their plan and things they never expected and are not prepared for start happening shifting the course of the game. Think the series of early in game books The Seven Fights of Aldudagga. They think they are doing something that will lead to their own empowerment, but are actually unleashing a nightmare on the world as the Snow Elves were tricked into committing a massacre at Sarthaal that would allow Dagon to enter the world through a portal that was buried under the city that could only be opened through the shedding of innocent blood in large amounts. With Alduin in fact being a hero in the story as the dreaming god of the the end times being asked to dream of Sarthaal as it was before the massacre. Thus creating a false image that tricked Dagon into retreating rather than entering the world believing his trick of the Snow Elves had failed. That is if the game is going to be good. If it's another inch deep plot then the Thalmor will be the bad guys and the only serious bad guys.
there is another protagonisty kind of reincarnating character in tes universe Hoonding in redguard pantheon if tes6 will indeed be set in hammerfell (which seems like the most likely option rn) it would fit with thalmore as the antagonist perfectly as (as far as I know) hammerfell continues to resist thalmore on its own during the events of Skyrim as the province was sceded from the empire in concordat of white gold
What's sad is that Queen Ayrenn in ESO seems like she could be a good ruler. Seeing how the Thalmor are in Skyrim makes me feel like the Veiled Inheritance won.
Isn’t the Dragonborn a descendent of one of the Septim bloodlines? Perhaps this will be a time when you come from royalty and the opposing army is assaulting the castle (your home) in the beginning scenes. The game begins with you escaping as their prisoner?
That would be the worst decision they would ever made, considering how long of a period of time a new Elder Scrolls is released, it would be an overwhelmingly bad call.
Honestly, i like the idea of the dragonborn continuing his journey into ES6 ik alot of people wouldnt agree but personally i would love to continue the story
I knew it! My Daddy always told me "Never trust an elf!" He was also saying the dust bunnies were out to kill him every night, so I never took him seriously....
Considering that TES6 is being set in Hammerfell, domain of the Redguards; the "sideways walk" they took from their ruined homeland Yokuda (allegedly from another kalpa) might be expanded upon.
The plot of Oblivion is referenced in Morrowind, in the Tribunal expansion pack. See the dialogue of Eno Romari: " gates of Oblivion will open, and the multitude of daedra will roam this world freely". But Skyrim's plot doesn't have any direct reference in Oblivion, that is, 200 years passed and a lot happened in between. TES VI will take years to release and it only makes sense that a lot happens since Skyrim too. I hope that they come up with something new instead of making a war against Thalmor the main quest.
The Elder Scrolls 6: Redfall: Skyrim 2 electric boogaloo
Ikr, the fact that Bethesda went to court with the author of the Redfall books for that name, and then it just ended up being the name of another generic, subpar vampire game… just astounding.
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 we can't say it's subpar before it releases
@@dps9390 Sorry, did we watch different trailers? Because you sure didn’t see what I did.
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Sorry did we get a chance to actually play the game yet?
@@dps9390 Sorry, did they not just show the most lackluster gameplay possible during their one opportunity to show the best possible aspects of it?
My god, you’re probably still some naive little bgs fanboy who’s overhyping Starfield after that disaster, and defending 76. Just sad. Go back to Reddit, can’t have to straying too far from the hive mind. Might be exposed to reality.
TESVI will be a tower defense game. Got it.
This is the most underrated comment here lmao
I can actually see that happening. It’ll basically be like Fallout 4s settlement building but instead of homes, you’re building castles and defenses and leading an entire army against the Aldmeri Dominion.
@@ZombieGangster that could be what the Skyrim Civil War questline should have been. Help the Redguards in their war with the Thalmor. Siege cities and territories relinquished by the empire, build up city defenses and forts and checkpoints on the major roads. Could be a really cool part of the game as long as it doesn't become intrusive or interrupt whatever else you'd rather be doing.
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Bloons but with Aedra and Daedra
I just hope im alive to see ES6
Silly man, shame you aren’t a superior breed. I’ll think of you when I play ES6 on my arm, or fridge…or maybe oven depending on how many versions they release.
Me too my man
Same here...
I hope we'll all be alive to play it
I will be mad if I die before this to some drunk truck driver.
I have always thought they wanted to control Adamantine Tower, as it was the first tower made directly by the gods, hammerfell was also invaded so it seemed like they wanted to go in that direction. They would use the tower stone to reclaim godhood or shape Mundus to their own liking. I also read somewhere about a vault in Adamantine tower and thought Lorkhans body was there, he would be in prisoned of his own prison (Mundus). I tried to turn this idea into a dnd campaign where Lorkhan would ask the players to stop the Thalmor to save his mundus, and then piece together his power by rebuilding his heart. This would be a double cross with Lorkhan going to full strength to punish the Divines who imprisoned him and the Daedra who didnt help him in creating Mundus.
I think it'd also be cool if you incorporated some of thebither pantheon ideals, cus clearly Alduin and Tsuhn are real so it'd be cool to have the Nordic version of the Divines, or maybe they're separate entities
And what about the Magna-Ge? (The gods who started the creation of mundas under the leadership of Magnus and bailed mid-way through). I love this theory by the way.
@@tigervalley62 Well the Magna-Ge would not be aware of Lorkhans true plans or that he would go back to full power. The constellation star guardians (Warrior, Thief, Mage) would guard the vault and only by beating all three would Lorkhan gain more power and freedom. Magnus would join in a fight to stop Lorkhan and send him back to mundus, but not to imprison him just keep him away from aetherius. Funny enough Magnus only cares for himself + Magna-Ge + Aetherius and not mundus. So lorkhan isnt his problem unless he threatens those three things.
I wonder if it is significant that the Greymoor expansion to ESO has you start a new character in the Adamantine Tower, and even see a part of the core of the tower. The previous expansion Summerset had the Crystal tower, and attempts to destroy it, where we are told quite a bit how the tower exists across alternate universes at the same time.
it would be awful lorkhan isnt a aedra he might even be a daedra
Maybe the quest with Saadia and the Alik’r warriors will play a role in TES: VI
Like The Replica Man in FO3 did in FO4
Saadia might become an important figure. They always emphasize they short side quest like the character is relevant to the lore
@@eyalreiss294 She may escape before she gets to Hammerfell
oh good catch
I have thought of that myself. Those two quests have a similar premise.
Exactly. That quest specifically, and the numerous foreshadowing that occurs throughout Skyrim revolving around the Thalmor and emphasis on Hammerfell gives it away. In the opening scene of Skyrim, both Hammerfell and the Thalmor are mentioned.
Isn't the empire a result of a dragonborn fighting elves as well? If that is the case this almost seems cyclical. Some force tries to destroy the world, be it elves or dragon, a dragonborn rises up to face them, overcomes and in time the story plays out anew.
Maybe the dragonborn is a god themself. The grace of all of tamriel. When the dragon born takes their last breath, so too will the world
@@alpha_9997 You seem to be forgetting that the inciting incident of Oblivion was that all but one of the Dragonborn had been slaughtered by the Mythic Dawn. Furthermore, the final story quest ends with that last Dragonborn's death.
So if the world ends when the Dragonborn dies then Tamriel would've ended in the 3rd Era, roughly 200 years before Alduin's return, if not earlier.
According to lore & the dragonborn prophecy, the dragonborn in the 4E(Skyrim) would be the last dragonborn. So no, there won't be another dragonborn.
@@mutualdecline2174 The Skyrim Dragonborn and the Septim Dragonborns are technically different lore wise due to one having a dragon soul and the other having dragon blood.
@@JollyOldCanuck They're pretty much one of the same but even if true, no one can say for certain that the Septim bloodline weren't one or the other since dragons weren't around in their era's. Even if we were to be technical about the two I doubt Bethesda is actually following such logic in the next installment of Elder Scrolls. There was no need to create text saying that the last dragonborn would be in the 4E if they weren't going to close that chapter & move on in my opinion.
The Direnni/Adamantium Tower is the only active tower not in the hands of the Thalmor. All others are either under their control (Valenwood/Somerset), had their stones removed (Cyrodil, Skyrim) or were outright destroyed (Red Mountain, Yokuda)
Wonder if there are any towers on other continents, like Akavir
Skyrim’s Tower’s stone wasn’t removed.
Talos and the Numidium are also towers, and possibly more too.
Yokuda is allegedly/potentially from another kalpa.
What is The Throat of the World’s stone?
if this were to be the case, I can kinda imagine a Dragon Break taking place. not that they even need a reason to happen to begin with, I know, but it could be that Bethesda, finally, after so many years, makes TES' main story have a final choice again, it being whether or not the protagonist ultimately decides to allow the Thalmor to go forward with their plan or not, or maybe reshape Mundus to their (the protagonist's) own will... but because it's a Dragon Break, all of this happens at the same time and we end up with some wacky outcome, like half of the aldmeri or human population dead, a new Divine (or more) and some other huge change in paradigm
Good luck implementing that into a game.
@@BestKCL what, a Dragon Break? TES 2 and 3 had Dragon Breaks, it has already happened before
@@40088922 Oh, I thought you meant a dragon break _happening within_ a game
@@BestKCL That would have been amazing ngl, a lot more replayability xD But yeah, i doubt they will.
I always wished there was more Thalmor slaying in Skyrim, they're just so hateable
Something greatly overlooked is the redguards in skyrim. If you side with Kematu in one of the earliest quests in the game, he mentions the “resistance against the thalmor is alive and well in hammerfell” assuming the next game takes place there…
Last time I was this early Lorkhan still had his heart
Last time I found a comment this funny it was five minutes ago when someone made another joke with nothing to do with the video for the millionth time, but which is loosely related via a piece of lore of the games, so that people can pat themselves on the back for understanding this very basic reference, while also being generic enough to spam post on every elder scrolls video for the maximum amount of fake internet points.
Truly, just hilarious!
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 I can’t remember the last time I asked
@@kas1xshindeiru Aww, inserting your opinion where it isn’t wanted, that’s so cute! Keep on, lil guy, maybe someday someone will care what you have to think
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Yo chill out, it's just a comment. If you don't like it, just keep scrolling.
@@cabbagecash2862 Wait, did you just revive a dead conversation so that you could tell someone else that they need to stop taking the internet conversations seriously?
Lmfao the levels of pathetic
I do wonder what will happen to the dark brotherhood. It was just a handful of people at the end of skyrim.
Yes. Dark Brotherhood is what makes me excited for the next Elder Scrolls. I wonder how their new outfit looks like and hopefully we get an amazing DB questline.
that was in skyrim. there could be more groups remaining scattered across tamriel.
@@mountainaccident2001 So far we already know: The DB in cyrodill was basically rekt because of the events of the Oblivion storyline, the black hand doesn't exist anymore and the brotherhood are basically non existent in Skyrim.
We even know from lines in Skyrim that the Shadowscales are basically no more which implies their influence in Black Marsh is gone. If there is a DB questline they're probably going to be very different as I doubt the Dragonborn stuck around long enough to be the nightmothers speaker for everyone.
They may be regrown as an originzarion, or they might just not be a thing. The Dark Brotherhood was only joinable in the last two TES games, they’re actually a fairly recent addition, and games did fine without them
No matter what happens to the DB in Skyrim Babette survives. Bethesda would be stupid not to include her in ES6 somehow.
Man can't wait to see if you're right in 15 years.
Seriously there better be 15 years worth of content with it taking THIS long
It's gonna have less content than skyrim, be always online with no npcs and just enemy's like F76, with a battle pass to unlock the dragonborn thanos skin for 19.99, be buggier than a chaurus and released early unfinished after starfield inevitably fails for being a shit version of skyrim with guns...but in space.
Am I missing anything?
@@Kilo_23 I wanna counter you so bad but….. damn bro you’re just right
@Giga_chad hurts bro 😭 gaming is dead, shill cash grabs made by untalented but educated people, massively corporated asking people to shill out 100bucks for games with a battle pass that's just content already created but re-sold as new when it had always been withing the code, remakes of once great masterpieces of media re-sold and increased in price for a new engine but no soul, celebs promoting dead kickstarter games that are unfinished yet still somehow have more polish than Bethesda ones, this the world we inhabit brother, wake up and smell the ashes.
They’re not finished milking Skyrim yet
This would be interesting if alduin died. DB didnt absorb alduins soul. If you talk to angeir after killing Alduin he tells you more
That's because Alduin always is going to eat the world, teh DB just delayed it for a few centuries. I doubt we'll see Alduin in TES 6, or any other sequels for that matter.
Alduin is complex lore wise, its hinted multiple times that he might just literally be an embodiment/aspect of Akatosh, the god of time.
Alduin's soul didn't get absorbed because he still has a purpose. akatosh made him so when the time is right, alduin can destroy the world and it will be reborn anew. alduin went power hungry in skyrim that's why you have to stop him cause hes trying to destroy mundus too early. and thats why his soul didnt get absorbed, because he still has a job to do
@@big_slurp4603 Alduin is immortal, he just lost physical form he is the incarnation of Akatosh
Alduin wasn't ending the world like he was supposed to instead he was trying to rule the world. Thats why we killed him it was so the natural order could take place. In a way we stopped the return of the Dragon Cult of old however we also doomed the world.
@@stevenwebb3475 no one doomed the world, we didnt kill alduin. He is back to his work
It is also important to mention that there doesn't have to be only one dragonborn living at a time, there can be several, as implied by what the greybeards say.
The dragonborn prophecy states that the last dragonborn would be in the 4E which was Skyrim.
@@mutualdecline2174 By "The Last Dragonborn", the prophesy means the last person of dragonblood to kill dragons, or more specifically the last one to fight Alduin and mark a permanent end to the rule of the dragons. After all, another translation of "Dovahkiin" is "dragonslayer". If there are no more dragons to slay, there will still be people with dragonblood, but no dragons to slay, so there can still be more dragonborns after Alduin's defeat, just without the prophesy to fulfill anymore.
@@pashico7082 I'm not following u. Every dragonborn has the soul of a dragon & can absorb power from their slain brethren. The ancient nord heros killed dragons & none of them were dragonborn. The prophecy stated when exactly the last dragonborn would appear. After the fall of several towers, a weakened empire & alduin's return. I'm interpreting that as saying the last dragonborn would appear in the 4E, regardless of the reason why. I may be wrong but there's nothing to suggest that another dragonborn could appear after what the prophesy claimed that the last, not the next, would appear after the fall of the white tower. Dovahkiin is just another meaning of dragonborn but in dragon tongue.
@@mutualdecline2174 The "ancient nord heroes" weren't dragonborn because they didn't have the dragon blood. There are two translations of Dovahkiin (Dragonborn): the normal interpretation of being "of dragonkind" (that is, a person with dragonblood), and "dragonslayer" (the ULTIMATE dragonslayer as they can absorb the souls of dragons). Alduin's wall was built by the ancestors of the Blades, who use the second interpretation of "dragonborn". Both definitions are technically interlinked, as the second definition is caused by the first one being true, however since the prophesy has been fulfilled, that second definition no longer applies as Alduin has been defeated. Therefore, it can be said that "The Last Dragonborn" refers to the last ultimate dragonslayer of dragonblood, but not the last person of dragonblood.
@@pashico7082 I doubt Bethesda did that purposely just to bring ES6 out with the main character being "dragonborn" because in actuality, the last "ultimate dragonslayer" was the one prophesied as the last dragonborn, not a dragonborn with that of dragon blood or otherwise labeled dovahkiin. I think all of this is one of the same and the Era of dragonborn is over. ES6 will be a completely different experience though I wouldn't mind a more complete experience as dragonborn since Bethesda completely missed the mark with skyrim.
I read in an in-game book (they might even mention it elsewhere) that the leader of the Thalmor was hung for 39 days from the white gold tower when Titus Mead II took it back after a short siege. On the 39th day an account witnessed a winged daedra carry him off. I always thought of that as a possible future bad guy to pop up. Elves live for a pretty long time. Especially if they make a pact with a possible Daedric Prince.... He had a cool name started with an A I think. just can't think of it at the moment.
Uh, lord Naarafin or Narafiin I think
The connection between the Towers and the Thalmor is not canon, and much of that comes from the writings of Kirkbride after he left Bethesda. What you are referring to is an unlicensed text called An Altmeri Commentary on Talos written by Kirkbride. And even then, that text does not refer to the Towers as part of the plan to unmake the world. Yes, the Towers are speculated to stabilize Mundus, but it does not state anywhere in canon that the Thalmor wish to destroy them and return to the primordial soup. It would be super cool if TES6 had this as the main storyline, and it very well could be canonized, but at the moment it isn't.
The Towers are certainly established in canon lore, if not with as much detail as Kirkbride added later. There's no explicit mention *yet* that the Thalmor have plans to destroy them... but plenty of explicit detail regarding Altmeri belief that Mundus is a prison and they wish to return to formless godhood. It's certainly implied...
@@Charles-hm5zj You’re correct, it does say this in Varieties of Faith that Auri-El ascended to heaven so that he could teach his followers, the Aldmer, the steps to escaping the mortal plane. To them Lorkhan is the enemy. Still, it is not confirmed that the Thalmor are going after the Towers and have the desire to unmake Mundus. It would awesome if TES6 did this, but it’s unfortunately not confirmed yet and I wouldn’t give my hopes up. I also never said the Towers and their nature were not canonical. It is speculated in the Mythic Dawn Commentaries that the Towers are important.
It may not be considered canon but let's be honest here, Kirkbride is why we have such interesting and rich lore for the elder scrolls universe. Plus from what I heard Bethesda does take ques from his writings and do implement some of it in the games.
@@BansheeKing22 You mean Bethesda has taken inspiration from the stuff after he left or before he left the company? If they're taking inspiration from stuff he wrote before he left, that would make sense since it's canon. If they're taking inspiration from stuff he wrote after he left, then that's news to me. Do you know examples of the latter because I'm genuinely curious. The only one that comes to mind is the Lesson 37, but Kirkbride himself was commissioned to write it and makes explicit reference to C0DA.
@roywalton3529 I'm at work right now but a couple things off the top of my head are sky whales and chim.
I legit woke my gf up because a new Avarti video just dropped and she's pissed at me 💀💀
This is actually really convincing
I just hope TESVI takes place in Alinor or Valenwood. If it's in Hammerfell that would be three games in a row that take place in a human province. I miss how unique and alien Morrowind, there aren't any real-world analogues to Vvardenfell in the same way there are to Cyrodiil and Skyrim. Plus I miss all of the crazy Bosmer from Oblivion.
I definitely think they are going to finish the provinces of man first then start getting into the cool alien provinces. They sadly butchered both Cyrodiil and Skyrim compared to the lore.
@@deeznutz1601 Hopefully they do Hammerfell justice. I want ruins and cities exposed by one blast of wind, and buried by another. I want skies made dark red with wind-blown dust and the sacred red morning mist which rises from beneath the sands. I want mountainous stone fields with green scrub and streams of Caribbean-blue water. I want to feel like a sword martial-arts practitioner, and all the complexity that comes with that. Mountaintop glaciers with crashed Direnni sky ships. A ship of my own to sail and crash through clear crystal Abacean waves. Shanties to sing. Places to discover. A Moor adventure sim through-and-through.
I've been wanting The Elder Scrolls: Blackmarsh since Oblivion. After I read all four of the argonian account books I just wanted to see it.
@@BestKCL Exactly what people wanted in Skyrim. A land of frozen waste and mythical/beautiful creatures. From were beast to flying sea creatures to large clans of vampires. Filled with brigands, wildmen and groups of nords that dont even know about the outside world. A land many call home but others wouldn't dare venture through because of the many dangers. A people with a rough history, a different pantheon of gods, etc. They have warred with many neighboring nations or even conquered them during the 1st Era. Many city states in Hammerfell, and highrock that have a large Nordic influence (think Bruma). I mean they dont even reference Dragonstar in Skyrim from what I remember. They didn't completely butcher the Nords or anything and they even added on to them with the dragon cult Ysgramor connection. But they definitely didn't do them as much justice as they could have.
I want Alinor too, but it's not possible because the non altmer races are not allowed there
+Trailer is 100% not Alinor/valenwood
My character is not gonna be sitting her ass in Mora's realm. Shes out conquering the world for herself. She's also a Legate with the Legion. She killed Ulfric and she's ready to put down the Thalmor.
This man still keeps up the good work. Well done and do what you like.
Do you think the Dwarves/Dwemer will have a major role in elder scrolls VI?
Perhaps . Hammerfell has some of the largest Dwarven ruins.
it would be pretty dope for the dwemer to have a role in some prophecy, their demise was ambiguous and since the science and methods they used with the heart of lorkhan resulted in them instantly disappearing from the mortal realm (unknown if they were erased or if they maybe managed to transcend the mortal plane and take the whole race with them since their goal wasn't to worship the gods but to be the gods) perhaps we would utilize some type of similar magic to make a drastic change needed to keep the the world from ending for the 50th time
That could be the main plot of the game with them returning from Oblivion
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i have an interesting idea what if the ebony warrior is the elder scrolls 6 protagonist
Well...there's a problem in saying Skyrim may predict Elder Scrolls 6 as, they actually ignored some of the lore for the sake of convenience when it came to provinces seceding from the Empire. Originally, The Hero of Kavatch had to slog his/her way through all of the oblivion gates because the empire refused to recall troops that were battling on other fronts against the Oblivion invasion.
Instead in Elder Scrolls 6, they retconed it so the Empire DID pull it's troops back during the Oblivion Crisis, just so there was a reason the other provinces felt abandoned. So be prepared that, Bethesda will change their own lore on a whim to suit whatever story they have i mind.
I don't think thats fair.
IIRC Its never said they went directly back to Cyrodil, I got the impression it meant they retreated to strategically important locations within the provinces and took and off hand approach with trying to survive the OC. You also have to remember that we don't know how the OC affected the other provinces bar a few details, if Kvatch was able to be wiped out under the empires nose who knows what other settlements got ruined along with any legions stationed to protect them. In TES 4 Chancellor Ocato even says all of his generals are telling him the legions cannot be pulled back, so we can only assume there was heavy fighting taking place. We can even see in previous games the empire never had an iron grip, Morrowind showed that the affairs of the Dunmer were practically their own. so many of the provinces already had a lot of autonomy - even Cyrodil had enough autonomy to assemble a large standing army for the battle of Bruma with no help from the Legion.
If we take Black Marsh for instance they were only able to hold off an invasion due to the hist fully mobilising the Argonians and Zergrushing the gates to the point that Dagon decided it wasn't even worth trying to take black marsh and just closed all the gates. So now there is a huge argonian army with nothing to do and a broken and battered imperial legion. It only makes sense that the empire would be forced to retreat and leave them be (especially seeing as how Argonians would have been more motivated to fight after a huge victory while also being bolstered by the fact they have a huge bone to pick with the Dunmer, which we know they later DID as later invaded Morrowind)
Theres more to it than "dey changed muh lore", the empire lost its heir, the official symbol of the right to rule (Amulet of Kings), lost a major city in its heartland and was destabilised greatly. It makes sense that a rebellion could take place in Skyrim and that the Summerset Isles and Black Marsh could break away because, really, what right does an empire with a new non-septim dynasty have to rule those lands?
That's how TES has always been, retcons are even a part of the lore in the form of Dragon Breaks. If you want consistency in lore, TES is absolutely not the place.
@@tomorbataar5922 That's not a good thing... it means they don't have people keeping the books strait.
@@Jaeger_Bishop It is a good thing, its just different and not for people who want certainty in their lore. TES lore is filled with contradictions and is evolving over time, with canon depending on the person. There's so much to interpret and discuss. Just like real mythologies. It makes it a lot more interesting IMO.
@@tomorbataar5922 And if a time travelling dragon doesn't cause a Dragon Break, I'll eat my hat
My theory is that TES 6 will center around the Direnni Tower. The oldest tower and first building ever created in Tamriel. I also believe that the celestials will play a big role in the central plot. Specifically the serpent celestial. I do think the second great war will be a big theme in TES 6 but not the focal point of the story.
This video could've lasted 8 sec by saying "yeah, probably the Thalmor will have something to do with it".
What if the hero then turns out to be a fragment of Lorkhan itself?
The protagonist of the Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion is suspected to have been a Shezzarine, a living fragment of Lorkhan.
I agree that the thalmor will be the next great enemy, for me it feels like the high elves are being controlled by few terrible individuals, who don't care about any mortal, high elf or not, they will try to destroy mundus and steal the power of the 9 divines
Considering the strides in technology Bethesda has been taking, PLUS their new engine they shelled out millions for, it's going to be massive. I doubt it'll have the same marketing and commercial success as Skyrim but time will tell. After how big Skyrim was in terms of size, and the announcement trailer showing Hammerfell and potentially High Rock, I imagine the game will seamlessly let you enter both continents, on both sides of the map, each with their own culture, governing, and currency. I definitely see the Thalmor being the enemies of the game, the fact that they love modeling dragons and eagles into their armor and weapons is a sure sign they just might want to take the mantle of world-eater from the late
Alduin. Making themselves into the new version of the Mythic Dawn, causing all kind of problems in an attempt to destroy the world, sounds like something they'd do. Imagine if they won the second great war and made mankind into vassals? Talk about depressing.
Ah yes, the strides in technology and massive improvements that that claim to have made…. But clearly have no shown.
Those same improvements that they have claimed to have made in every single game previously released. Remember, sixteen times the detail?
There’s a reason why the entire internet simultaneously groaned and face palmed when they announced that TES:VI will be made in the creation engine; it sucks.
@@bimlauyomashitobi421 Is there proof of that statement? That it’ll be in the creation engine? I’d love to see official word on something that hasn’t even progressed past the concept phase….
@@90snetworkproductions79 We’ve known this for years, why do you think the creation engine became such a topic of debate three years ago?
Do you even pay attention to Bethesda? Next thing I know you’re gonna tell me that TES:VI is gonna come out next year because “NoBoDy kNoWs, ShOw Me ThE PrOoF!!!” Which one of the dozens of articles do you want me to link to, take the five second to type it into the search bar yourself you lazy arse, I’m not your slave. This is basic knowledge, don’t ask me to show you the proof that 2 + 2 does indeed equal 4 because of you being too lazy to use common sense.
But then every game they have released has been a steady progression of less and less content, choices and role-playability. So it doesn't matter if they spent millions on a new engine if they write another crap story with less gameplay. Skyrim was a downgrade from its predecessors. And Oblivion before it was a downgrade from morrowind. Sure they improve some aspects but it takes away heavily from others. If you played Morrowind you remember levitation and how much fun that was. And then it was dropped in Oblivion with a crap excuse as to why, just because they didn't want to have to spend more time building intricate caves and such into the world that could utilize it. In both Oblivion and Morrowind how you levelled mattered but in Skyrim you're going to basically do the same things. Combat did feel nicer in Skyrim compared to Oblivion and Morrowind, but only because the dicerole mechanic of Morrowind would break your immersion when you fired an arrow through someones head without damage and Oblivion had enemies that wouldn't even flinch most of the time when hit, while a couple of rats were quite capable of stun-locking you in heavy armour with flinching. There was less dialogue options after Morrowind and less choices that mattered. Voice acting plays a major role in that downgrade. What I expect of TES 6 is a Skyrim system remake with gameplay being just about as passive. Follow the marker to your exact destination and don't worry about thinking how to play or the future of your character because no choices matter and you can do everything in the one run.
In my opinion, since from what context clues we know from the only trailer for ES6, the main story will probably involve Meridia, and the Sload, seeing as how the trailer seems to focus on the Iliac Bay, which from what I've read of the lore there tend to be sightings of the Sload every so often there, and the fact that Meridia does not have the best relationship with the people who live there, it will probably involve either a major sidequest or mainstory quest with the Sload (who are necromancers) and Meridia cultists in a desperate battle for the region.
id like to think that the dragonborn is there and is somehow neutered by new magics maybe when you create a new game it asks for save data from skyrim for a hidden cameo like the new ebony warrior.
No, that would be terrible. We already know the Dragonborn is going to be Moras thrall anyway so we might get a hint of their fate in Moras questline in six. TES games don't work with the protags meeting eachother, that's why in Oblivion it says the protagonist of Morrowind left for Akavir because if they were there during the events of Oblivion they'd have been able to solve the crisis themselves. And in Skyrim Sheogorath only hints very very slightly that he in infact the Hero of Kvatch - and I'd say they could only really get away with that because the Hero has become the embodiment of Sheo and has quite literally turned into him.
@@big_slurp4603 I think that they gonna bring again the Dragonborn character as a protagonist because there’s a lot of loose ties from Skyrim.
Knowing elder scrolls the dragon born will be long dead and the game will be set a few decades or more after skyrim
I just hope we get details about the dragon borns fate after the events of Skyrim
Well, this is what I've been looking for, Avarti. 9.9/10. more videos like this please.
I would like to be able to fight in the Second Great War and give the Thalmor, what is coming to them!
If the plot to elder scrolls 6 doesn’t involve the player character slaughtering Altmer, I’m gonna be disappointed
Same here ,It should be the endgame of ES V
The next "Hero" or "Main Protagonist" of ES6 will be none other then the reincarnation of Hundings. The mythical hero that comes to the aid of the Regadan(Red Guard) people in their times of need. And since the Dominion is all but poised to Ravage Hammerfell, the Empire being keen on reconquering it and the infighting factions all looming on the horizon its the perfect timing. Next up the "Super Power" that will replace shouting will be sword-singing aka a manifestation of ones soul in to a weapon, typically a sword. But they can and will bend that lore to encompass all the powers and abilities that used to belong to the "shouts" in Skyrim.
The problem Alduin didn't want to do what he was created to do. He wanted to rule nirm. He disobeyed and the character the dragonborn ( in my playthru is an imperial human) was meant to defeat alduin. As Aldine had no intention to destroying the world as he wanted to control it and so the dragonborn defeated him.
My momma told me me once that the heart of lorkhan was like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get.
Morrowind NPC: Have you heard about the unrest in the imperial city?
It would be pretty cool for ES6 if you could “import” your Dragonborn like how Dragon Age Inquisition you can import hawk.
Won’t be playable, but you can see your overpowered boi do some crazy stuff from the perspective of someone else.
But yea most likely they won’t show.
Yes it would be cool I remember Dragon Age Origins Imports into Dragon Age 2.
It would be great if your Dragonborn could import into ES6 and technology wise it's entirely plausible.
Based on what happened to the protagonists of the other four games the Dragonborn will be either sent on an adventure to Akavir, disappear, or become trapped in Apocrypha.
Interesting video, but I don't think it will be so: every single TES game has had a different hero; the Eternal Champion, the Agent, the Nerevarine, the Hero of Kvatch and finally the Dragonborn. I have a feeling they will pull a Dragon Break on the Skyrim timeline for TES VI, and just do whetever on earth they want... with a new character. Hell, it could be the Hero of Ionith, for all we know. It ciuld ve set in Akavir, going from tge lands of the Kamal towards the desert lands of the Ka Po Tun...
If they make Thalmor the main antagonists in ES6 Bethesda better make the main character like Pelinal Whitestrake.
But even if they don't, there's nothing a mod can't fix.
I hope the Dragonborn returns for the next game, or at the very least I hope another game can return us to Skyrim one day
I love Oblivion so much, in terms of playing before the game mechanics were/are outdated - it was probably my favourite game of all time.
BUT one thing that's awesome about Skyrim and I would be really sad to loose in future ES games is...Dragon shouting. I don't know if I can go back to playing a "normal" character after being a dragonborn 😢
The first thing I’m doing in ES6? Pub crawl in search of Sheogorath.
I get that the whole Thalmor thing will probably be the main plot of 6, but I really don't want that. Each Elder Scrolls game is it's own story and stands by itself. The events of the previous games doesn't directly determine the next game. I don't want 6 to just be a direct sequel to Skyrim where it just continues the story where it left off.
we have side quests for a reason which could mould and possibly affect 6 canonically, its however inevitable that the main mission wont have the thalmor because it would not make sense especially if the province is chosen to be hammerfell and we will definitely witness sword swinging as a power, if I am wrong with this prediction how would you make eso 6 without having Skyrim effect its timeline, how many years would you put in between? if I remember correctly Skyrim and oblivion have a 200 year difference.
We bareley saw the Thalmor in Skyrim, all of it was basically foreshadowing. If the game is set in Hammerfell it is almost definitely going to be Hammerfell vs Altmer because we know there was conflict between the two. Personally, I wanted High Rock as brentons are criminally underrated so I get where you're coming from.
Also you're wrong about them not affecting eachother. The first 4 games all take place with emperor Uriel Septim in power and all take place over a 44 year time span of his reign. The games basically chronicle the empires growth to unity and power, peaking between Morrowind and Oblvion, then ending in its downfall in 4. Everything that happens in Skyrim is directly caused by the Oblivion Crisis and Uriels death.
They aren't directly linked but they are HEAVILY influenced by each other. Every game is teased bt the previous games, Morrowind had a line that said what was going to happen in Oblivion and I hink even daggerfall showed that the next two games would be titled "Morrowind" and "Oblivion", there is clearly some foresight
@@big_slurp4603 I think you are misinterpreting my point. I'm not saying the games have nothing to do with the previous ones. 100% every game builds up to the next one and teases things to come. My point is, non of the games have plots that revolve around major plots of the previous ones.
Arena: Emperor is Kidnapped and a False Emperor is placed. You must save the Emperor and stop the False one and restore order.
Daggerfall: The game takes place in the Iliac where the ghost of the Last King is Haunting the City of Daggerfall. You must travel all over to find out what is happening and why he is haunting the place. Along with that, a massive Dwarven God has gone missing and several factions wish to take control of it. If you managed to figure that plot out from the plot of Arena then you are a psychic.
Morrowind: Game takes place on the other side of the continent on the island of Vvardenfell where three living gods are losing their power because the creator gods heart is inside of the Volcano and an ancient person who vanished and has returned as an imaginary immortal god is using that heart to invade the dreams of the nation, transform people into zombies, and building a New Numidium. You are the reincarnation of an ancient Chimer king and War Leader who is prophesied by Azura to stop this new god and the Three Living Gods. If Daggerfall made it obvious that this would be the plot of the next game then we didn't play the same version of Daggerfall.
Oblivion: The game takes place in Cyrodiil where a cult has killed emperor Urethra Scrotum the Seventh and all of his kids. The forces of Hell invade the entire continent and lay waste the almost everything. You find the Emperor's Bastard son who transform's into and Avatar of Akatosh (Also known as the Old Smaug Himself) to battle Mehrunes Dagon and save the continent. How anyone managed to predict that from any of the main parts of Morrowind is beyond me.
Skyrim: 200 years after Oblivion, after the Empire has suffered major loses, an Elven uprising has almost full control, of the continent and the Empire has ben forced into submissions. Skyrim is stuck in a civil war over the worship of Talos along with Hammerfell, Blackmarsh, Morrowind, Summerset, Valenwood, and Elswyr seceding. If this wasn't bad enought, Dragons have retuned and Alduin has come back (or forward) to destroy all life and eat the world. You are a Dragonborn who can absorb the souls of Dragons and you are the only hope to save all life from the Dragons. If you managed to predict any of that after you beat Oblivion, then you are cheating because you work at Bethesda.
Elder Scrolls 6: Hammerfell is in an uneasy alliance as the Crowns and Forebears create a tense alliance to battle the Invading Aldemri Forces. The ongoing Civil War in Skyrim has kept the Empire weakened and due to the lack of trust against the Empire, Hammerfell is left to fend for itself. You are an aspect of Hunding and you united the people of Hammerfell to stop the Aldmeri threat and end their Elven Supremacy. If you managed to figure that out, then you played Skyrim because it almost spells it out for you.
My point is the plot shouldn't be predictable. For ES6 to be the greatest game in the series it should have the most predictable plot. Yes Skyrim set up the Aldmeri Dominion plot up but so what? Don't make this game obvious. Come up with a unique plot that doesn't make this game Skyrim 2. Imagine waiting 15 years for a game only to have the plot be seen form a mile away. Remember Fallout 4? Years before that game was ever teased of announced, everyone and their mother was saying that the game will probably take place in Boston and involve the Institute which was set up in Fallout 3. It had the most predictable plot, and the main story of that game sucked.
I agree that Bethesda will probably make ES6 about the Second Great war. That doesn't mean I can't hope they will treat us with respect and give us a plot that can stand on it's own like all of the other main games. I just really don't want to wait 15 years for a game that sucks.
How did the institute came up in Fallout 3?? I may have a faltering memory or I never knew this! Also the Boston prediction was one of the few big ones from what I remember, but I don't remember it being THE most valid prediction. But please show me a video or link to the institute being in F3 i really wanna see how i missed it
I think everyone here knows the Thalmor are going to play a heavy role in the game no matter what. However, I think they will be secondary villains similar to skyrim and we have someone else like Alduin playing the main villain. Or worst case scenario we jump another 200 years into the future, the 2nd great war already happened and the dominion are destroyed and a relic of the past we read in books, and the political landscape is completely new. I doubt this would happen due to the build up of the Thalmor plot line, but it could happen if Bethesda are stupid.
So I’m not crazy for continually raiding their embassy? Cool 😎
Fire video as usual!
"The Thalmor and their plan for the worlds destruction will feature heavily in TES6"
No fucking shit
My reason for thinking that it will be a somewhat sequel is that TESV doesn’t just wrap-up a narrative.
There’s no universal lore way to go forward without having a canon winner of the civil war, for instance, much less the inevitable Great Northern War II which is coming no matter who wins Skyrim’s civil war.
Taking that decision out of players’ hands will piss a lot of people off too.
I heard a theory that the Stormcloaks initially win, and then the Empire sends some troops from the Dominion/cyrodilic border and reconquers them shortly afterwards when they are weak. The reason for this, is because the main road from Cyrodill to Skyrim gets blocked off by an avalanche, and during the Stormcloak path line, you can see the road cleared from a fort in Falkreath. Whereas it remains closed off during the imperial plot line. Could be wrong, but that's a theory some believe.
No major plot and lore points like that have happened not in games more than they've happened in the games. There will be most likely a 200-year jump, just like oblivion to Skyrim. That will HOPEFULLY be enough to create room for a new fresh story that isn't just Skyrim 2. New antagonists are imperative to an elder scrolls story. In every game we have fought new enemies and a new antagonist.
I'm gonna guess it will take place in Black Marsh with the Thalmor trying to take over and you'll have to decide to help free the Aragonians or help the Thalmor subjugate them.
Honestly can't wait for TES 6 to release, this will be my go to lore channel hands down! Love every piece of content iv ever watch from you and it's built my knowledge on the series aton, keep up the great work!
Lets be Realistic:
I believe that the ES6 will be placed in the new engine "Creation Engine 2." Confidently watching Starfield & Knowing that it's being built on this one. At this very moment as I make this post that Todd Howard's interview stated that the reason they're not focusing on ES6 at the moment is because it's already in a playable state... Here are a few theories of what my predictions are going to be during the main Quest line & Location of what will happen...
I theorize that the Main protagonist will be the Dragonborn again, Because an Immortal being & Being the Last Dragonborn. Let's get into the theory.
- The Betrayal of the White Gold Concordat. (Being the Last Dragonborn) Cyrodiil the Thalmor has taken over the Adamantine tower & the likelihood of the Dragonborn is constantly being hunted and tried to be defeated, Because they want to rekindle the fires of the tower to Reach Akatosh to Enslave the Dragon to have some leverage over the dragons Including Dragonborn.
- We'll either see a very flourishing guilds that managed to "Get to it's most powerful". Assassin's, Thieves, Fighter & Mages guild have their own power & influence as they were assisted to grow.
- The Dragon Pandemic is also problematic. Since Alduin was the World Eater itself, He cannot be defeated instructed by Paarthornax. He said.
Paarthurnaax: The prophecy says that only the Dragonborn can stop him.) True… But qostiid - prophecy - tells what may be, not what should be. Qostiid sahlo aak. Just because you can do a thing, does not always mean you should. Do you have no better reason for acting than destiny? Are you nothing more than a plaything of dez… of fate?"
(Going through the Quest dialog you will come to "I like this world I don't want it to end"
Parthurnaax: Pruzah. As good a reason as any. There are many who feel as you do, although not all. Some would say that all things must end, so that the next can come to pass. Perhaps this world is simply the Egg of the next kalpa? Lein vokiin? Would you stop the next world from being born?"
Then there is a Dialogue "The Next world will have to take care of itself." Parthurnax is intrigued. Paaz. A fair answer. Ro fus… maybe you only balance the forces that work to quicken the end of this world. Even we who ride the currents of Time cannot see past Time's end… Wuldsetiid los tahrodiis. Those who try to hasten the end, may delay it. Those who work to delay the end, may bring it closer."
This is a major support on what this video entails... The Dragonborn just "Prevented" the inevitable demise of the world for a certain amount of time... Since Alduin was cast Adrift in time, Alduin will return & will have great vengeance. This is because Dragonborn defeated him "Today" in Skyrim... But He will have to also defeat him back where Time will cast itself back reviving Alduin.
What I expect from the ES6 is that we will have a Dragonborn that likely will be trying to evade the world & realizing his actions caused conflicts, Dragons still plague the land & now without Alduin's lordship Dragonborn has issues attempting to persuade the dragons that he will become the Leader, But because of Akatosh being summoned and resurrected. Their immediate loyalties come to their God & because Dragonborn is a Traitor of Akatosh, He is not happy that he has slain his Son. But it's no coincidence that a Dragonborn just suddenly appears. (It goes back to our reasons to travel the border to Cyrodiil.) The very purpose of our game. (With that I will end the theory.) Because More is to come.
I really hope the big bad is the thalmor cause they need to go down
After recently replaying it, I’ve noticed a LOT of mentions and references to hammerfell. I’m like 90% sure the next game will be in hammerfell.
I hope you are right. It would suck if all the unfinished stories and unanswered questions were just scattered in books and notes.
Just like the idea that Sheogorath in Skyrim is the hero of Kvatch, would love to see at least some books, dialogues, or implications as to the Dragonborn's whereabouts after Skyrim. Maybe dialogues of some travelers or farmers having sightings of the dragonborn.
In Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, you work for/with the Blades.
We're probably only going to hear about it in books, you know how they like to jump into the future
I hope that Bethesda will not give us a Mary Sue chosen one prophecy just like the dragonborn
I would actually like to play as the Thalmor.
I know it's weird, but I've always felt that the series is kind of an objective story (everything that happens isn't inherently good or bad) told by biased people (who fight against the events because to them it's bad), and while I don't think they are right, the potential roleplay and immersion I could get by seeing their perspective on history and understanding them as more then the egotistical villains sounds like a lot of fun.
Something like Assassins Creed Rogue where you play as a Templar. Yes it's not a role playing game, but many AC fans have a soft spot for that game because it deals with exactly this. The journey of a man questioning his beliefs and choosing the belief he once considered evil upon reflection and self-discovery. It was incredibly interesting and fun to play witnessing and understanding the ideology from the villains perspective.
This theory also goes a long way to explaining why we never got a conclusion to the Thalmor and Stormcloak/Empire tensions in Skyrim itself. The game just runs out of quests without ever dealing with the implied conflict between those factions, it would make sense for it to be the foreshadowing of the next game.
Would be soooooo fucking cool if the Dragonborn is mentioned or is a boss in some way, my headcanon is that the Dragonborn ends up as a champion/servant to Hermaeus Mora, being the replacement to Miraak. The protagonist of the next Elder Scrolls game would need to venture to the other Daedric Realms of Oblivion to understand or have more insight in how to stop or prevent the Thalmor's plans since their ideology went as far as not only erasing Mundus but the entire creation of Daedra and Aedra, during the protagonist's travels between realms they would be battling a boss "Dovahkiin" in Mora's plane of Oblivion, and the Dovahkiin would be spamming shouts like an actual demigod-like being instead of waiting for cooldowns
I think in Elder Scroll 6 we will see the aftermath of the second great war and also the fall of the empire, not by stormcloaks but by thalmor. but I really hope that the Dragonborn will lead the blades and unknowingly help the Thalmor or lead the Dragons to save the Empire.
The death of the emperor is some huge foreshadowing
I mean they consider creation club cannon since it’s technology not mods. With that being said they had the creation club guest where u had to save the Red Guard soldier or whatever the hell he was. And he was being guarded by the high elfs
I honestly hope they do a big-time skip again and it isn't just the thalmor or even the Thalmor at all we fight because it'll just be Skyrim 2. The Dragonborn is immortal so he would definitely be alive or an NPC if he doesn't die from some lore reason. It'd be better to do another 170-year time skip and have a new antagonist and story. Though I know they probably won't do this because the story is obviously in high rock area where the adamantine tower is. And the thalmor will probably be trying to get control of it. Just seems like it'll be not as interesting and not give as much of a sense of wonder and intrigue with a world more or less familiar with more or less the same things going on. Every elder scrolls game has brought a new surprise and mystery. The realm of Dagon, dragons, Dagoth, etc. I hope it isn't generic feeling or too familiar to Skyrim. Mechanically and story-wise.
the new game will be about a war of thalmor vs everyone. the hero brings back the dwemer to help. enemy of my enemy kinda thing
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Interesting theory, would like to see the option to help the aldmeri dominion or destroy it.
IM hoping Elder Scrolls 6 will take place not long after skyrim and will involve the story in skyrim in some way after all this is still a relatively fresh chapter in the elder scrolls story and so many questions were left unanswered though it has been over a decade since it's release.
Maybe they'll go for a trilogy structure. Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion. Skyrim, Hammerfell, Dominion.
There's always a tease, but all the off key remarks are so dense in every game it's hard to say which one could be the tease. But man do I want to fight some Thalmor!
a lot of people thought the college of winterhold quest line was boring but I think it has potential context for a future game. say your prediction is right? the only faction quest line in Skyrim that feature the thalmor is the CoWH with ancano as the main antagonist. in the quest line, you discover the eye of Magnus which ancano tries to harvest power from. while trying to take control of the eye I remember arcane says "I have the power to undo this world" or something along the lines of that. also during the quest where you go find the staff of Magnus Mirabelle Ervine says "the synod were amassing weapons of great magical power". So the thalmor try and steal the eye of Magnus? the empire tries to take the staff off Magnus amongst other weapons? the status of aldemiri and the empire relations are shaky at best, not at war but not necessarily at peace, its giving Cold War vibes in a way. I think the next game will either be about gathering these "weapons" or is going to be set in another Great War. also I think TES6 will be set in a portion of Hammerfell and the entirety of high rock or vice versa.
I wonder if the protagonist of the next game will be the "Hoonding." Being in Hammerfell, it makes the most sense and they are the literal incarnation of "perseverance over infidels," which I I think the Redguards will need.
Imagine if they make a actual good war between men and elves, like a full battle, that would be so cool
Maybe with Creation Engine 2 we could get some truly massive battle sequences, now that would be cool!
Imagine if you could join the Thalmor and help with their war on mankind, that would open up a whole load of roleplaying possibilities, especially for those who like playing evil characters
As much as that would be an amazing option for roleplay, I don't think Bethesda would even consider it. There was no choice to join Dagoth Ur, or the mythic dawn. And ending the world would leave the possibility of a future game obsolete and or confusing. So I think Bethesda would just do what they've always done and that's railroad the protagonist down the path of a hero. Though it would be cool if you could maybe betray the Thalmor?
@@cole6370 yeah good point. You can’t even join them in Skyrim aside from making friends with that one dude in Markarth. Kinda sucks from a roleplay standpoint but Bethesda obviously has plans regarding them.
Yeah nah Ur not gonna be allowed to play as the elf nazis
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Who the hell would want to do that though?
Generally agree, though what I look to is there potentially being some third party that the Thalmor are not expecting being the real threat or that the Thalmor start to enact their plan and things they never expected and are not prepared for start happening shifting the course of the game.
Think the series of early in game books The Seven Fights of Aldudagga. They think they are doing something that will lead to their own empowerment, but are actually unleashing a nightmare on the world as the Snow Elves were tricked into committing a massacre at Sarthaal that would allow Dagon to enter the world through a portal that was buried under the city that could only be opened through the shedding of innocent blood in large amounts. With Alduin in fact being a hero in the story as the dreaming god of the the end times being asked to dream of Sarthaal as it was before the massacre. Thus creating a false image that tricked Dagon into retreating rather than entering the world believing his trick of the Snow Elves had failed.
That is if the game is going to be good. If it's another inch deep plot then the Thalmor will be the bad guys and the only serious bad guys.
Here's the thing, Alduin was reset by the DB, Bethesda can just reboot the elder scrolls...
there is another protagonisty kind of reincarnating character in tes universe
Hoonding in redguard pantheon
if tes6 will indeed be set in hammerfell (which seems like the most likely option rn)
it would fit with thalmore as the antagonist perfectly as (as far as I know) hammerfell continues to resist thalmore on its own during the events of Skyrim
as the province was sceded from the empire in concordat of white gold
I often wonder when the disappearance of the dwarves will become a thing...
I honestly think we are going to see the Dwemer return like Alduin in the next TES
Man i can't wait for Skyrim 2!
What's sad is that Queen Ayrenn in ESO seems like she could be a good ruler. Seeing how the Thalmor are in Skyrim makes me feel like the Veiled Inheritance won.
Isn’t the Dragonborn a descendent of one of the Septim bloodlines? Perhaps this will be a time when you come from royalty and the opposing army is assaulting the castle (your home) in the beginning scenes. The game begins with you escaping as their prisoner?
I bet it'll be about sword singers too
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So that means that the time wound counts as the snow tower as destroyed?
Is it even certain that the Elder Scrolls VI takes place after Skyrim and not before? It wouldn’t surprise me if they decided to do a prequel
That would be the worst decision they would ever made, considering how long of a period of time a new Elder Scrolls is released, it would be an overwhelmingly bad call.
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@@clavicusvile1328 skyrim belongs to the nords
Honestly, i like the idea of the dragonborn continuing his journey into ES6 ik alot of people wouldnt agree but personally i would love to continue the story
That’s why tes6 hasn’t come out. Because Alduin succeeded.
I knew it! My Daddy always told me "Never trust an elf!" He was also saying the dust bunnies were out to kill him every night, so I never took him seriously....
In order to write the dragon born off I'm pretty sure Bethesda will just have him stay in sovngarde
Considering that TES6 is being set in Hammerfell, domain of the Redguards; the "sideways walk" they took from their ruined homeland Yokuda (allegedly from another kalpa) might be expanded upon.
The plot of Oblivion is referenced in Morrowind, in the Tribunal expansion pack. See the dialogue of Eno Romari: " gates of Oblivion will open, and the multitude of daedra will roam this world freely". But Skyrim's plot doesn't have any direct reference in Oblivion, that is, 200 years passed and a lot happened in between. TES VI will take years to release and it only makes sense that a lot happens since Skyrim too. I hope that they come up with something new instead of making a war against Thalmor the main quest.
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Maybe we will finally be able to climb a ladder in ES6.
Cool. Thanks for sharing.