Good to see the faction focuses back! Btw, I found this poem by ImmortalCorvus on an old video, and felt bad that it wasn't being read: Battle Hymn of Patchy Patchy the Great rides forth through the mist, An army of billions under his iron fist; Down on their knees his enemies shall fall, For Patchy the Great is master of all. And those who fight will surely die for I, Corvus, tell you no lie; Defy his will, and evermore, Your civilization shall be no more. With sword in one hand, a shield in the other Patchy rides forth with his heirs and his brothers; With bow, sword, spear, axe, matchlock or lance, No army or navy shall stop his advance. Patchy's great empire never shall fall, As Patchy the Great shall soon conquer all; For those who oppose him, they shall soon find That Patchy lays waste and leaves their corpses behind. Patchy's great army shall deal pain and death and defend Patchy's honor with their final breath; Neither god, man or beast shall hinder their quest; 'Til victory Patchy the Great shall not rest. Make peace with your gods and make peace with them soon, for Patchy rides forth to seal your doom; And all who hinder his mission shall fall, For Patchy the Great shall conquer all!
I think that Armenia is simply One of the most powerful faction in rome 2! They have fantastic cav , good archers and good meele infantry! I love them!
The only thing I have found the Eastern Spearman to be good at is to try and tire out the enemy front lines before the main line hits. The problem is that they usually do not last long enough to be effective.
Great series. Didn't watch them all, but it was awesome to be able to look up a new faction when getting into them in the Campaign! Divide et Impera? Want to talk about that one?
Exactly. Well said man. The persian cavalry, they could be amazing in the hands of faction with a better overall roster, their charge is almost as devastating as a eastern cataphract. Armenian units cant complement very well to work over their weaknesses.
Loki Hve because most tournament games people pick try hard barbarian sword spamm. So the other player oftenly counters with shock cav and lots of skirmishers (parthia or armenia). So many of these tournament battles end up as boii vs tyllis or parthia vs armenia because of that.
Disagree: The Armenians are one of the stronger factions, because the Catas with archer support and decent spears is VERY competent and work well together. They might be a little worse than Parthia, but still good.
Hanno Barca decent spears, they dont have it. Eastern spear are trash, persian hoplites are the most expensive speed bump/meat shield uni in the game. The noble spear are like a regular hoplite, slightly stronger but considerably more expensive. I used armenia a lot right when they were put in the game, not amazing, mid-low strengh faction. But i love the persian cav, cataphracts are always nice. They are probably better used in 2 v 2. That guys said it all ''they have the tools, but they cant work well together''.
HeirofCarthage Surprised to see so many axes; used to seeing you bring a lot more Persian Hoplites. Took me by surprise. Maybe it took your opponent by surprise too. :)
heir how do you get you horse archers to shoot on a dime because whenever i use them they take around 3 seconds of just sitting there and then shoot which usually means they never get a shot of before being chased away
Fun fact, frenzied charge is an invaluable ability because it gives your unit unbreakable morale. As for actually helping their charge, its useless. CA works in strange ways.
I have issues with maximus' video, chiefly because through Divide et Impera I was better able to match up cav to test expert charge defense and--lo and behold--it DOES WORK ON CAVALRY. I don't know how Maximus could mess up like he did but it DOES work, however it's extremely limited. Your cav unit has to be charging the unit charging it--so whoever wins the charge does massive damage. It's simply impossible for all that damage to be done UNLESS it was through Expert Charge Defense.
Broreale , you have issues with my video because you got different results with a mod that completely overhauls combat and that is your argument for why my results with the vanilla game are not valid?
Armenia in TWRII Is very incorrect unit wise.First of all people notice that Armenia doesn't have any unique troops although it is wrong . Armenian cavalry (cataphracts) had their own name-Ayrudzi-They were slightly different from Parthian cavalry.Armenian cavalry troop was less Armored and was very mobile and because it was less Armored its charge was even more devastating(They used spears when they approached enemies,and maces and swords after the dive.They had unique bows and arrows.Arrows had unique system of inflicting pain(which I cant explain because I dont know how to tell it in English ;[)What about infantry the spears and maces were the most important weapons at that time for Armenia because they could prevent cavalry attacks that fact has a meaning Maces could break bones of the raider or the horse and the spear could kill the raider because of good range Geographically the spears were far more comfortable because the rocks stones offerred less mobility for infantry and spears have a good range of attack,maces broke bones and it was far more effective because the people that populated the east had strong bones that mace could break.This things are not in the game because of balance or the devs are just lazy people and that fact that Armenia is Free-LC They putted less effort in it.Of Course thats awful and I think Armenia Must be updated and be unit wise correct. Thanks for reading ;)
+Marcus Mgodioso no, not all of them, I forget what battle it was, but before the battle of the hydaspis, alexander the great battled the immortals when he fought Darius III the last time and conquered the Persian empire
Armenia IMO looks to be nerfed compared to RTW Original. You could get Cataphract Archers out of Cavalry Stables which I much preferred to getting Elephants from Seleucids and Carthage. Those units back in original RTW would make a late-game Armenian army almost unstoppable (or even in Mid-Game). They are my favorite faction in RTW original. When (if I ever) get into RTW 2, the jury seems to be out this time.
Nothing beat profetional pikemen but you have like 5pikes and strong spears or swords in the flanks 4 units and cavarly strong of 5 units to be flexible thats the srcret of phalax 4 units archers or slingers behind after Alexanders death his succesors focused more on pikes and forget about cavarly a lot phalax lose flexible make them weaker against roman legionaries
Armenia be like: May I Axe you a question?
???
Good to see the faction focuses back! Btw, I found this poem by ImmortalCorvus on an old video, and felt bad that it wasn't being read:
Battle Hymn of Patchy
Patchy the Great rides forth through the mist,
An army of billions under his iron fist;
Down on their knees his enemies shall fall,
For Patchy the Great is master of all.
And those who fight will surely die
for I, Corvus, tell you no lie;
Defy his will, and evermore,
Your civilization shall be no more.
With sword in one hand, a shield in the other
Patchy rides forth with his heirs and his brothers;
With bow, sword, spear, axe, matchlock or lance,
No army or navy shall stop his advance.
Patchy's great empire never shall fall,
As Patchy the Great shall soon conquer all;
For those who oppose him, they shall soon find
That Patchy lays waste and leaves their corpses behind.
Patchy's great army shall deal pain and death
and defend Patchy's honor with their final breath;
Neither god, man or beast shall hinder their quest;
'Til victory Patchy the Great shall not rest.
Make peace with your gods and make peace with them soon,
for Patchy rides forth to seal your doom;
And all who hinder his mission shall fall,
For Patchy the Great shall conquer all!
Brilliant!!
Louis Cho I see you found my poem Louis. Quite a noteworthy piece, is it not?
ImmortalCorvus Well, obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have re-posted it.
I think that Armenia is simply One of the most powerful faction in rome 2! They have fantastic cav , good archers and good meele infantry! I love them!
In campaign javelin units range sucks. why?
I'm of half Armenian half Polish descent, love my people!!
The only thing I have found the Eastern Spearman to be good at is to try and tire out the enemy front lines before the main line hits. The problem is that they usually do not last long enough to be effective.
Great series. Didn't watch them all, but it was awesome to be able to look up a new faction when getting into them in the Campaign!
Divide et Impera? Want to talk about that one?
Heir what do you think about the announcement the total war series is doing a warhammer game.
Very Good analytics. But in my opinion persian cav is a bit overrated.I would rather go with noble blood cav.
I think it is fair to say that Armenia is one of the underdog factions because although they have tools, they can't work well together.
Exactly. Well said man. The persian cavalry, they could be amazing in the hands of faction with a better overall roster, their charge is almost as devastating as a eastern cataphract. Armenian units cant complement very well to work over their weaknesses.
Define underdog. Armenia is atm in the top 10 used factions in the tournaments and for a good reason. Thing is such factions are harder to use
Loki Hve because most tournament games people pick try hard barbarian sword spamm. So the other player oftenly counters with shock cav and lots of skirmishers (parthia or armenia). So many of these tournament battles end up as boii vs tyllis or parthia vs armenia because of that.
Disagree: The Armenians are one of the stronger factions, because the Catas with archer support and decent spears is VERY competent and work well together. They might be a little worse than Parthia, but still good.
Hanno Barca decent spears, they dont have it. Eastern spear are trash, persian hoplites are the most expensive speed bump/meat shield uni in the game. The noble spear are like a regular hoplite, slightly stronger but considerably more expensive. I used armenia a lot right when they were put in the game, not amazing, mid-low strengh faction. But i love the persian cav, cataphracts are always nice. They are probably better used in 2 v 2. That guys said it all ''they have the tools, but they cant work well together''.
you're doing a professional work Heir.
Armenia needs better melee infantry units and unique cataphracts...
HeirofCarthage Surprised to see so many axes; used to seeing you bring a lot more Persian Hoplites. Took me by surprise. Maybe it took your opponent by surprise too. :)
best faction so far
finely faction focus! yay
The azat knights are so cool though man
cannot wait to see Bactria again!
So no Armenian legionaries, no Armenian archers and skirmishers?
There are mods in Workshop.
Any1 know what kind of gaming PC I should get what PC can handle Rome 2 wh3 n 2 plus Attila?
That's a cool map and a really fun match-up! :O
heir how do you get you horse archers to shoot on a dime because whenever i use them they take around 3 seconds of just sitting there and then shoot which usually means they never get a shot of before being chased away
Welcome back FactionFocus!
Yesss! Is Carthage on the way?
Heir, elite persian archers have a spear that may make them better against enemy cav (light). Thats why they are more expensive
Meanwhile, Cimbri Bow Women get them at sub 400.
Yea but they need their dlc buyers
I wish the next total war was about the mongolian and chinese dynasties.
They were in FLC
Fun fact, frenzied charge is an invaluable ability because it gives your unit unbreakable morale. As for actually helping their charge, its useless. CA works in strange ways.
I have issues with maximus' video, chiefly because through Divide et Impera I was better able to match up cav to test expert charge defense and--lo and behold--it DOES WORK ON CAVALRY. I don't know how Maximus could mess up like he did but it DOES work, however it's extremely limited. Your cav unit has to be charging the unit charging it--so whoever wins the charge does massive damage. It's simply impossible for all that damage to be done UNLESS it was through Expert Charge Defense.
why not just mod a unit in that's exact same as armenian azat knights but without expert charge defense
Because you can't use it in MP...
Broreale , you have issues with my video because you got different results with a mod that completely overhauls combat and that is your argument for why my results with the vanilla game are not valid?
How do you get the rome 1 music? does it just come with the game? :p
its a mod
Dukeringo Witch one?
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=263097925&searchtext=rome+1
right here on steam^
how did you get the rome one soundtrack in the game?
Mods
What is your graphic Mod bro ?
Would like to see the suebi re done because of the new units they have (wolf warriors...)
azat knights used to be amazing ):
Armenia in TWRII Is very incorrect unit wise.First of all people notice that Armenia doesn't have any unique troops although it is wrong . Armenian cavalry (cataphracts) had their own name-Ayrudzi-They were slightly different from Parthian cavalry.Armenian cavalry troop was less Armored and was very mobile and because it was less Armored its charge was even more devastating(They used spears when they approached enemies,and maces and swords after the dive.They had unique bows and arrows.Arrows had unique system of inflicting pain(which I cant explain because I dont know how to tell it in English ;[)What about infantry the spears and maces were the most important weapons at that time for Armenia because they could prevent cavalry attacks that fact has a meaning Maces could break bones of the raider or the horse and the spear could kill the raider because of good range Geographically the spears were far more comfortable because the rocks stones offerred less mobility for infantry and spears have a good range of attack,maces broke bones and it was far more effective because the people that populated the east had strong bones that mace could break.This things are not in the game because of balance or the devs are just lazy people and that fact that Armenia is Free-LC They putted less effort in it.Of Course thats awful and I think Armenia Must be updated and be unit wise correct. Thanks for reading ;)
Thanks for your opinion :)
Strongly Agree! Armenia needs better melee infantry units and unique cataphracts of their own...
jamreal18 ;)
try Europa barbarorum mod for Rome 1 i think that's what you are looking for
Mario46er Ill Try Thanks :)
They are indeed free.
In campaign no Azat Knights for General its a bummer.
One of the most balanced factions
this might be a really stupid question.......but does anyone think they should add "immortals" to Parthia and Armenia?
maybe as as and elite spear unit
+Tyler Leech no. Spartans killed the "immortals" lol
+Marcus Mgodioso no, not all of them, I forget what battle it was, but before the battle of the hydaspis, alexander the great battled the immortals when he fought Darius III the last time and conquered the Persian empire
I didn't know that ! cool
Historically Armenia did not use Immortals, just Persia.
have your melee units out of formation while fighting spears
I'm Armenian awesome.
Armenia IMO looks to be nerfed compared to RTW Original. You could get Cataphract Archers out of Cavalry Stables which I much preferred to getting Elephants from Seleucids and Carthage. Those units back in original RTW would make a late-game Armenian army almost unstoppable (or even in Mid-Game).
They are my favorite faction in RTW original. When (if I ever) get into RTW 2, the jury seems to be out this time.
Heir can we get a 100k subscriber video or stream?
I personally thing horse archers are a waste if your fighting Rome because of Rome's armour in most of it's units.
They work against barbarian factions tho.
let's hope that this was the last update.
great vid
Every Armenian unit specs should be as follows:
Strength 55
Armor 10
Health 40
Discipline 0
Spirit 99
Fastly isn't a word Heir!
And when you said, "and the reason are." That made my head hurt!
*Grammar Nazi Detected*
Your army would like to Axe your opponent something.
Nothing beat profetional pikemen but you have like 5pikes and strong spears or swords in the flanks 4 units and cavarly strong of 5 units to be flexible thats the srcret of phalax 4 units archers or slingers behind after Alexanders death his succesors focused more on pikes and forget about cavarly a lot phalax lose flexible make them weaker against roman legionaries
nice
Lmao your name, fix the master chief collection.
Im Armenian😊
Same
congrats bro
First! Nice job heir!
I can never understand why spearmen > pikemen in this game
Pikemen aren't nearly as flexible especially in multiplayer games.
S/o Kim kardashian
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