The problem with scaling smaller pieces into bigger pieces is that the wall thickness that made sense at a smaller scale no longer makes sense at larger scale. The walls on that large piece are way thicker than they need to be, especially the drawers. If you design furniture specifically to be full size, you could use less filament and make them cheaper than simply scaling up small models.
Wonderful! Now I wish the drawer had some holes in the side to show off those rainbow colors - maybe a Voronoi pattern, which would have the extra benefit of saving plastic :)
Doesn't save much plastic usually because the infill is already pretty much hollow. But I agree it would look cool. Better yet make it look like someone has taken a hammer to it with random chunks missing
I remember a live stream from a convention, and I quote; 'I love big prints, and I cannot lie.' So the Blue fix created something awesome! Great designer, great design, great results!
If you can buy it don’t print it if time isn’t an issue. If you can’t buy it, it is worth printing it! I designed and printing a custom container system based on Tanos containers right now for 450€ print costs. 50€ CAD (way too less but it’s a hobby), 20€ test fit parts. 2 normal Tanos drawers and 1 custom one to store a Laptop and other stuff. A container with 3 standard size drawers cost around 140€.
I just modeled and printed recently, a modular width and height bookshelf set for my dad! Was amazing to see how i could make furniture that way with doing that project. I'd want to upgrade my Voron Trident budget build to have a much higher flow hot end so prints like these don't take a day. That way I can also use a larger nozzle and end up with hollow and sturdy prints roughly 250mmx250mmx250mm in under 10 hours. Definitely takes a lot of time to learn how to slice a small scale model into a larger one that's strong, as well as modeling in such a way that those models are scalable.
Some Tips: 1) *hollow out the model then do an extrusion on the sides* A lot of those edge for the drawers are thicker as a result of scaling up and they do not need to be that thick 2) *print with 0.6 to 0.8 mm nozzles* it will save you the time necessary to wait for giant prints. I dropped a 27 hour print on a 0.4 nozzle to 9 hours this way. 3) *install actual cabinet rollers into the edges of the mode* takes more work, but the result will last longer + feel smoother for an overall finished
I would love to see you print it in one of those wood fiber infused filaments. Then you could give it a light sand and stain. If they have one with walnut fibers, it would be awesome!
I'd be curious to see how much cost savings could be made by thinning out the walls while keeping enough strength. Probably save a couple of kg of material at least.
He is missing alot of settings. I would even use a 1mm or 2mm nozzle to print this. Stronger, faster, and your infill could be 10% and be fine. Also no supports with .8mm - 1mm nozzles
@@limbeboy7 Yeah, I didn't mean like 3d print wall settings, more like the actual sides of the drawers for example. Looks like they were 2-3mm thick on the 100% model, so were probably far thicker than they needed to be on the 350% model. Would also allow for more storage space!
I don't think it would save all that much material. Most of it is in the outside surfaces and making the walls slimmer doesn't decreases the surface area. (It will actually INcrease it somewhat, now that I think about it.)
It wouldn’t be impossible to build that chest of drawers out of wood, but it would take a lot of time and some specialized tools and skills to do it. For example, steam bending boards to make the sides. You would have to make a “buck” to bend the wood around. You would need a steam chamber to put the wood in. So, like I said, not impossible but time consuming with the right tools.
I am 30 seconds into the video and for the very first time in my experience I paid for a STL-model. - Ja, I bought the clearance castle. You know what I mean.
For big stuff, a pellet extruder just makes so much more financial sense. But I'm sure Joel has thought of that already. There are not many options publicly available for that, but there are at least 1 or 2. Maybe one of those companies should send a pellet printer to Joel. I think the one I saw at Rapid/TCT was from the company that is owned by Creality, but is for their higher end printers. It was pretty slow, but huge and pellet based. I think it cost around $5K.
The more that I see the SV08 appear in videos, the more I want to stay the hell away from it and just build a Voron. I really want both a V2.4 and V0.2, I just need to find the money and the space ( ; ; )
Building that out of wood would definitely cost more, if not in materials, definitely in person hours and skill required. I bet there are also some optimizations that could be made to the 350% one to reduce the amount of material, as well.
It's not a question of if it's worth it. It's a question of do you want it enough that the cost be damned? Can it be made traditionally? I suspect this could be, but not everyone could so I would say no. So yeah sometimes insanely 3d models are the only way to get somehting.
So material wise it might not be worth it, but I feel like asking a wood worker to make someething similar to that would absolutely cost you more than $260 since you are paying for their time as well.
When you used the plane cut, did you use any of the connectors you can add in prusaslicer? I feel those would help with the alignment and maybe get rid of the lines?
Any reason why you didn’t “cut” the drawers and just lay them on a horizontal orientation rather than the vertical orientation? The first time you place a small load on the drawers, they’ll snap at one of the layer lines.
Bed size restrictions, those drawers won't ever see enough load to make a spit at the layer lines (except the new polychroma stuff apparently it's pretty weak)
I know you like to print massive things and enjoyed when you 3D printed a car to take to your favorite coffee place. So I stumbled upon someone who 3D printed a BENCHY large enough to SAIL in and thought you'd be interested: th-cam.com/video/ilIubT7ands/w-d-xo.html Made me laugh, maybe it will for you too.
These drawers look like they are inspired by bandsaw boxes, which are made of wood and cut on a bandsaw. Here's an example of a cracked drawer bandsaw box that is a similar design: th-cam.com/video/jIfWWXhQcbk/w-d-xo.html
So $260 for a set of drawers is not unreasonable. Especially since this is more show piece than a purely functional set of drawers. Also this is not something that would be been cheaper if made by wood since labor would have cost several hundreds of dollars you have corved faces and weird angles.
Most people don't get free filament sent to them to show it off and what not so regular people buy regular filament that cost regular dollars not double or triple, I use regular PLA from $8 all the way to maybe $11 and then if I'm spending any more than that it's PLA plus and I'm not spending more than $14.00 because I'm at least buying 10 rolls and that's for usually exotic colors, and then I usually go to new makers unless Amazon is running a insane deal.
th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8VUABcNtmv0gEWEE Mathew Peech built this version a little while ago. He has a great show like yours Joel. Good attitude, some humor and lots of creativity
For a piece such as this to be made from any other material would be a custom, one off piece. I would expect it to be in the $850+ range.
made from wood this would be a piece of designer furniture that would be in the thousands, if not 10s of thousands
The problem with scaling smaller pieces into bigger pieces is that the wall thickness that made sense at a smaller scale no longer makes sense at larger scale. The walls on that large piece are way thicker than they need to be, especially the drawers. If you design furniture specifically to be full size, you could use less filament and make them cheaper than simply scaling up small models.
That’s a very good point. I think when I embiggen my next thing I’ll take this into consideration.
@@3DPrintingNerd Or hollow it out and pour concrete in it for weight and stability.
This is what I needed to see to kick start my Friday! Awesome as always!
Wonderful! Now I wish the drawer had some holes in the side to show off those rainbow colors - maybe a Voronoi pattern, which would have the extra benefit of saving plastic :)
Ooh that would be cool!
Doesn't save much plastic usually because the infill is already pretty much hollow. But I agree it would look cool. Better yet make it look like someone has taken a hammer to it with random chunks missing
@4:48 There's the spot most people will want to jump to without all the intro stuff.
This is so awesome, cannot wait for my Orange Storm Giga to arrive... Thanks, Joel!
Pretty slick. It would probably make a good accoutrements holder in your kitchen area so you and guests would use it all the time.
Matthew Peech built a full sized version in actual wood a few years ago.
th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zpTI1ZQpZUuAOMpf
Ben Marvin Woodworking built a bookshelf a few years back. It was awesome.
@@JohnClark-tt2bl came here to say this!
Came here to say this
@@JohnClark-tt2blAnd it's fantastic! th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WVUsWuLePHHOwPuq
I remember a live stream from a convention, and I quote;
'I love big prints, and I cannot lie.'
So the Blue fix created something awesome!
Great designer, great design, great results!
Imagine how happy you can make a child by making their room completely furnished with this kind of stuff.
If you can buy it don’t print it if time isn’t an issue. If you can’t buy it, it is worth printing it!
I designed and printing a custom container system based on Tanos containers right now for 450€ print costs. 50€ CAD (way too less but it’s a hobby), 20€ test fit parts.
2 normal Tanos drawers and 1 custom one to store a Laptop and other stuff. A container with 3 standard size drawers cost around 140€.
I just modeled and printed recently, a modular width and height bookshelf set for my dad! Was amazing to see how i could make furniture that way with doing that project. I'd want to upgrade my Voron Trident budget build to have a much higher flow hot end so prints like these don't take a day. That way I can also use a larger nozzle and end up with hollow and sturdy prints roughly 250mmx250mmx250mm in under 10 hours.
Definitely takes a lot of time to learn how to slice a small scale model into a larger one that's strong, as well as modeling in such a way that those models are scalable.
Classic! Cannot wait to see this in wood
Some Tips:
1) *hollow out the model then do an extrusion on the sides* A lot of those edge for the drawers are thicker as a result of scaling up and they do not need to be that thick
2) *print with 0.6 to 0.8 mm nozzles* it will save you the time necessary to wait for giant prints. I dropped a 27 hour print on a 0.4 nozzle to 9 hours this way.
3) *install actual cabinet rollers into the edges of the mode* takes more work, but the result will last longer + feel smoother for an overall finished
I would love to see you print it in one of those wood fiber infused filaments. Then you could give it a light sand and stain. If they have one with walnut fibers, it would be awesome!
I don't think that is an unreasonable price if it makes you happy 😊
People blow money for dumb shit regardless
Thank you for saying, "Twitter". +10 spirit points.
At 350 thats a great way to do a small kid’s bedroom furniture
I'd be curious to see how much cost savings could be made by thinning out the walls while keeping enough strength. Probably save a couple of kg of material at least.
He is missing alot of settings. I would even use a 1mm or 2mm nozzle to print this. Stronger, faster, and your infill could be 10% and be fine. Also no supports with .8mm - 1mm nozzles
@@limbeboy7 Yeah, I didn't mean like 3d print wall settings, more like the actual sides of the drawers for example. Looks like they were 2-3mm thick on the 100% model, so were probably far thicker than they needed to be on the 350% model. Would also allow for more storage space!
I don't think it would save all that much material. Most of it is in the outside surfaces and making the walls slimmer doesn't decreases the surface area. (It will actually INcrease it somewhat, now that I think about it.)
It wouldn’t be impossible to build that chest of drawers out of wood, but it would take a lot of time and some specialized tools and skills to do it. For example, steam bending boards to make the sides. You would have to make a “buck” to bend the wood around. You would need a steam chamber to put the wood in. So, like I said, not impossible but time consuming with the right tools.
There is the small, medium and large version, then there is the Joel size version! Great job and lots of fun to do and watch
Haha. Love that, thanks for watching!
THIS is the type of stuff I wanna make when I get a 3D printer❤
Show the big haunted drawers off by all means .... but maybe leave the socks and underwear at home.
People pay much more, all the time, for a smaller cube with 2 drawers. This price point, even when labor is calculated in, is very reasonable imo.
Such a cool print and video! Love this! Definitely put it in use
I am 30 seconds into the video and for the very first time in my experience I paid for a STL-model. - Ja, I bought the clearance castle. You know what I mean.
For big stuff, a pellet extruder just makes so much more financial sense. But I'm sure Joel has thought of that already. There are not many options publicly available for that, but there are at least 1 or 2. Maybe one of those companies should send a pellet printer to Joel. I think the one I saw at Rapid/TCT was from the company that is owned by Creality, but is for their higher end printers. It was pretty slow, but huge and pellet based. I think it cost around $5K.
The more that I see the SV08 appear in videos, the more I want to stay the hell away from it and just build a Voron. I really want both a V2.4 and V0.2, I just need to find the money and the space ( ; ; )
I'd love to see that in person at 3D Printopia in Bel Air, MD in a couple of weeks if you are going and it's possible to bring that.
Still looking forward to your video on the upgrades to the Orange Storm Giga!
This isn't just "plastic furniture" - it's art!
PRECISELY
Building that out of wood would definitely cost more, if not in materials, definitely in person hours and skill required. I bet there are also some optimizations that could be made to the 350% one to reduce the amount of material, as well.
They are 30% off!!! woohoo! my daughter is going beserk on this one!
That's so much cheaper than it would've costed to get someone make one out of wood.
That’s a good point.
Joel, I mean you could make this out of wood. Just print all in wood filament and then hand sand the pieces and then varnish them afterwards
Another great video! Thanks for the content, Joel. You're awesome! ✋
I appreciate you coming back to this fixed upload with the positives! Thank you so much!
You sir are amazing I love all your content may your future be full of wonder and joy
YOU are amazing!
Would it be possible to 3D scan a PS5 and then 3D print custom plates? If yes why hasn’t anyone done this yet? It seems perfect for customization.
You need to get a BAAM for printing full size furniture
that seems like a perfect night stand :D
just glu your alarm klok to it :p
Now THERE we go!
Technically, I helped print this just a little bit! Lol
That is amazing Joel. All the high fives to you
Return five right back
Wait. . . . that's not a Carol Shelby logo!
That design has been made out of wood a couple years ago that’s where the design comes from
I found that out from some of the comments and went and subscribed to that guys channel!
Should you 3D print furniture? (looks at 3D Gloop booth from many RepRap Festivals) who can say... :D
It's not a question of if it's worth it. It's a question of do you want it enough that the cost be damned? Can it be made traditionally? I suspect this could be, but not everyone could so I would say no. So yeah sometimes insanely 3d models are the only way to get somehting.
That’s a very good point
So material wise it might not be worth it, but I feel like asking a wood worker to make someething similar to that would absolutely cost you more than $260 since you are paying for their time as well.
It's awesome. and huge. and awesomely huge. Bring it to a Makerfaire or two... :D
When you used the plane cut, did you use any of the connectors you can add in prusaslicer? I feel those would help with the alignment and maybe get rid of the lines?
yes you can
Matthew Peech designed and made this out of wood several years ago
He did and I found him and it’s wonderful
so the orange storm giga is now working without problems? i like to order one in few days when the preorder opens again
Was there a video about the modifications to the OrangeStorm Giga? I don't remember one. Just curious what these modifications were.
yooooooooooo.....if there wasn't a reason for a 1000x1000x1000 printer in near future.....IDK what else to say....
Any reason why you didn’t “cut” the drawers and just lay them on a horizontal orientation rather than the vertical orientation? The first time you place a small load on the drawers, they’ll snap at one of the layer lines.
Bed size restrictions, those drawers won't ever see enough load to make a spit at the layer lines (except the new polychroma stuff apparently it's pretty weak)
@SpencleyDesignCo are you interested in the challenge?
yes its worth the money. drawers are expensive
I know you like to print massive things and enjoyed when you 3D printed a car to take to your favorite coffee place. So I stumbled upon someone who 3D printed a BENCHY large enough to SAIL in and thought you'd be interested: th-cam.com/video/ilIubT7ands/w-d-xo.html Made me laugh, maybe it will for you too.
Hey Joel! What is the 3D printer with the orange acrylic side panels in the background?
I wish there were more options for software that automatically cuts models in smaller pieces... there is like, only one right now?
You’re thinking of Luban right?
@@3DPrintingNerd yes
My Sv08 is throwing the same error, sovol is sending me a new tool-head board and ribbon cable. Have you found a fix for error 8?
The only fix is the new tool head board and cable - which they also sent to me
@@3DPrintingNerd Awesome glad to hear I’m on the right track.
they have been made of wood many times. thats where the person got the idea to make them
Record for most hidden commercials in 60 Seconds 😂
Bahahahaha
Do more in wood-effect PLA😂
Inspiring mate
when is the blue storm video happening?!
I may have missed it but how did you print the large white piece?
These drawers look like they are inspired by bandsaw boxes, which are made of wood and cut on a bandsaw. Here's an example of a cracked drawer bandsaw box that is a similar design: th-cam.com/video/jIfWWXhQcbk/w-d-xo.html
Love it!
That gash cries to be spooked up. Like a bloody wound with a fake interior view.
Or LEDs!
mathew peech has one built in wood on his youtube channel
YESSSS. Sub’d to him
3d printind would be the cheepest wat to produce one offs like this in wood working it would me more in money and time skill
So $260 for a set of drawers is not unreasonable. Especially since this is more show piece than a purely functional set of drawers. Also this is not something that would be been cheaper if made by wood since labor would have cost several hundreds of dollars you have corved faces and weird angles.
Tell your wife that these pieces are for the baby's room!
John Malecki build off
A great challenge for @SteveRamsey ! #SteveRamsey
Even if made out of wood the hours and expertise will add up price. So maybe you are into something.
If you made it, then yes, you're required to use it. Socks and underwear if you want, butt something has to go in there
Isn’t anything new these have been made outta wood in the way past
Yeah saw that thanks to some comments. Brilliant.
th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.html
Matthew Peech already built that from wood!
th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HjVp158miM-rAM4a
Here is the wood version.
I love the look of that.
When will you reply to #3dprintingonyoutube? I did, and you inspired me to do so
I'm glad you like it! I'm working on making a #3dprintingonyoutube video now!
wiggly chest
there is one door that is not in the same color in the tiny one its the the second from the top in the right
Most people don't get free filament sent to them to show it off and what not so regular people buy regular filament that cost regular dollars not double or triple, I use regular PLA from $8 all the way to maybe $11 and then if I'm spending any more than that it's PLA plus and I'm not spending more than $14.00 because I'm at least buying 10 rolls and that's for usually exotic colors, and then I usually go to new makers unless Amazon is running a insane deal.
@John_Malecki
@John_Malecki may take a swing at it
th-cam.com/video/m2zSY06agoM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8VUABcNtmv0gEWEE Mathew Peech built this version a little while ago. He has a great show like yours Joel. Good attitude, some humor and lots of creativity
@toolstoday
“Any talented woodworkers if you can make this I’d like to see” @John_Malecki the gauntlet has been laid down
@John_Malecki