Celebrini already has 2 inches and 8 lbs (and still growing) on Bedsrd. He can play a 200 foot game and will remain at centre. Bedard is destined to be a winger and imo, will need help in his own end as he lacks the size to challenge bigger wingers along the boards, if he remains at centre.
ODog, the elite scorers have supreme hockey IQ. They can instantly evaluate how much time they have to get a shot off and can therefore place it in to the net instead of slamming it in to the goalie’s crest.
celebrini is the better overall player in terms of 200ft game but in terms of untapped potential and skill you gotta hand it to bedsy still there’s a reason he’s generational talent he’ll be what everyone expected soon
honestly so annoying. Claiming Celebrini wont be capable of "the flash and dash" lmao. These people have clearly never watched him play a full game. He's already more talented than Toews ever was
I think that Bedard will probably rack up more goals in his prime than Celebrini but I think that Celebrini hands down will be the better overall, complete player.
Leafs are better wothout matthewa. You just desribed some of why. When Matthews is on the ice, play is dictated around him. But it revolves around him shooting. If he dont shoot or dont score they accomplish nothing. It doesnt allow for additional help very well. All set ups are geared toward matthews. Its not matthews fault. Hes great but it jus doesnt work well for a team
If im the Habs, I am trying to get Malkin and Crosby. 16M for those two on that team would be great and they could win, id even try to get letang and just buy the whole team off pitts. crosby wont leave so take pittsburg to montreal.
I grew up in Chicago and am a life long hawks fan and I don't think Bedard at any point of his career will be called the best player in the game. He is stellar but he won't be above every other player in the league at any given point of his career.
I think it's too early to compare them. They're both in the early years of their NHL careers, so they're still developing. *They're not even in their 20s yet for Christ's sake...*
Losing kadri was the dumbest move the Leafs could have made. Talk about everything you wanted in the room - sure, he bled blue a little *too much* but you could have reined that in, hopefully *after* it had spread to the rest of the team. Nobody has even thought Dubas's team deserved to win after that. I'm just glad people can finally admit it.
It's not that simple. Centers are wired to see the ice in a different way than wingers. Defensive acumen is usually a bit higher as well. That's usually why you hear the term "natural center". It's always easier to move a center to wing than the opposite, because you have less to worry about as a winger. It's a lot more than just "passing"
That’s what a GM is for I’ll give Dubas credit he was creative in creating more space, need to offload Reeves contract do we still need Goons in the NHL maybe but not at 3mil 😏
the dude whos been benched like 4 times for poor defensive play? who is nearly tied with celebrini in points while being a year and a half older? and twice the games played? sure.
Not just rookie year but overall I think so, Bedard unfortunately looks like he should be a sniper winger, which is not a bad thing but not what people expected… but things don’t always work out…definitely Bedard needs to gain some muscle and man strength, he looks like he’s a kid, and this isn’t kid shit no more
Crosby will retire a Penguin obviously, does it matter if he only plays for Pittsburgh 🤔🤷♂️ he’s not getting another Cup with them, Penguins need to say to Sid if u want to go get another shot at a cup we will honour a trade, whoever it be with Leafs, Jets, Panthers, Avs, Stars, Rags, Bolts, Canes, Knights, Oilers, Devils, Nucks, anybody else wins the Cup out of these teams I’ll be shocked! Diehard Leafs fans are a community & a cult \, god if Leafs got a Cup in next 5 years nobody would celebrate it more, b coz it means more! Ps there was fans shouting we want Boston as well!
Celebrini's playing style (elite speed) suits the NHL more than Bedards - that's the bottom line. Bedard may have been a generational junior player, but as most students of hockey know that's nots enough to be a star in the big leagues. Celebrini has the drive, skill and speed to dominate at the NHL level.
31:54 The brief Celebrini and Bedard talk starts.
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Celebrini already has 2 inches and 8 lbs (and still growing) on Bedsrd. He can play a 200 foot game and will remain at centre. Bedard is destined to be a winger and imo, will need help in his own end as he lacks the size to challenge bigger wingers along the boards, if he remains at centre.
ODog, the elite scorers have supreme hockey IQ. They can instantly evaluate how much time they have to get a shot off and can therefore place it in to the net instead of slamming it in to the goalie’s crest.
Celebrini and Bedard are the next Syd and Ovi
celebrini is the better overall player in terms of 200ft game but in terms of untapped potential and skill you gotta hand it to bedsy still there’s a reason he’s generational talent he’ll be what everyone expected soon
Yes
Also stop comparing him to Toews. He's going to be significantly better
Long way to go to be “better” than Tazer.
@@Alexirongatewelding 100%
honestly so annoying. Claiming Celebrini wont be capable of "the flash and dash" lmao. These people have clearly never watched him play a full game. He's already more talented than Toews ever was
@cooperperry7732 exactly, Toews was great because of grit and IQ but didn't combine that with supreme offensive skills like Celebrini
Thank the gods we (SJ) didnt win the Bedard lotto lol I rather have Smith and Celebrini
I think that Bedard will probably rack up more goals in his prime than Celebrini but I think that Celebrini hands down will be the better overall, complete player.
If you look at the rosters of CGY VAN and LA, no way you can tell me VAN doesn’t have the best of the three.
Celebrini = Toews
Bedard = Kane
Me thinks
SJ
Celebrini Toews
Smith Kane
I love now people think Syd only had two years left. Dude could play to 45 if he wanted to lol
Players like him don’t stick around until 45.
The reason O'Reilly didn't want to hang around was Keefe.
Where are you getting that from?
Leafs are better wothout matthewa. You just desribed some of why. When Matthews is on the ice, play is dictated around him. But it revolves around him shooting. If he dont shoot or dont score they accomplish nothing. It doesnt allow for additional help very well. All set ups are geared toward matthews. Its not matthews fault. Hes great but it jus doesnt work well for a team
If im the Habs, I am trying to get Malkin and Crosby. 16M for those two on that team would be great and they could win, id even try to get letang and just buy the whole team off pitts. crosby wont leave so take pittsburg to montreal.
Wanna talk bad trades? Let’s talk about the Blackhawks lol. The bread man and the cat
"It's a gift from God, some guys can put it in the back of the net and others can't". - ODog. Glory be to God!
I grew up in Chicago and am a life long hawks fan and I don't think Bedard at any point of his career will be called the best player in the game. He is stellar but he won't be above every other player in the league at any given point of his career.
I think it's too early to compare them. They're both in the early years of their NHL careers, so they're still developing.
*They're not even in their 20s yet for Christ's sake...*
Yes 10000%
Celebrini is already better than Bedard.
The quality of the audio on these youtube clips has been awful recently
I see a lot of people moaning about audio I’m in uk and I have noticed no sound issues, have noticed them not putting correct hours on titles!
They only said "we want Florida" cause Florida already advance so it would mean they won their series
Huge BAL fan. I can't understand how you give Lamar MVP with no divisional title & losses to LV, CLE and PIT.
He's already better than Bedard
Losing kadri was the dumbest move the Leafs could have made. Talk about everything you wanted in the room - sure, he bled blue a little *too much* but you could have reined that in, hopefully *after* it had spread to the rest of the team. Nobody has even thought Dubas's team deserved to win after that. I'm just glad people can finally admit it.
Michkov is potentially super star although he isn’t lucky with a team and coach
DO IT!!! LEAFS WORST TRADES SEGMENT!! LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh, c'mon...you guys all know if Sid would leave Pit it would be to go to Vegas...have you guys not been paying attention????/
Why don’t they try Marner at center? He’s an insane passer. I know he’s little tho
It's not that simple. Centers are wired to see the ice in a different way than wingers. Defensive acumen is usually a bit higher as well. That's usually why you hear the term "natural center". It's always easier to move a center to wing than the opposite, because you have less to worry about as a winger.
It's a lot more than just "passing"
Crosby to Colorado Avs makes the most sense because Landeskog career over and Crosby can replace him perfect fit.
The AVS are in a worse cap situation than the leafs honestly.
Yes he’s bigger and stronger
Leafs don’t have the prospects tho
Unless the leafs are giving up Matthews and Willy and a bunch of prospects/picks then nah. Even tho criosby is much older. He doesn’t want to leave
Obviously this is a joke. It just means you’re going to have to to pay much more than he’s worth to ever get that to happen.
HAYZIE B LIVES IN A FANTASY WORLD WHERE THE LEAFS HAVE UNLIMITED CAP SPACE😅
That’s what a GM is for I’ll give Dubas credit he was creative in creating more space, need to offload Reeves contract do we still need Goons in the NHL maybe but not at 3mil 😏
I have friends who know Ryan O'reilly and he prefers living in the US.
Oilers last year Vegas knocked out set us up for the finals
Not even Mentioning Michkov in this conversation is laughable
He'll be the best of all three. Michkov has that dog in him.
@@tonybleau6219said no one ever
@@lit3r294 Said their play this season. And yes, many think Michkov is better than both.
the dude whos been benched like 4 times for poor defensive play? who is nearly tied with celebrini in points while being a year and a half older? and twice the games played? sure.
Bedard lacks the physical advantages of other generational talents. Average speed, strength, size.
Yes he is 100% Bedard is a winger at best…..
Possibly, Bedard lost a lot of his Rookie year due to injury
Not just rookie year but overall I think so, Bedard unfortunately looks like he should be a sniper winger, which is not a bad thing but not what people expected… but things don’t always work out…definitely Bedard needs to gain some muscle and man strength, he looks like he’s a kid, and this isn’t kid shit no more
If Sid goes to Toronto, that's it, my hockey watching days are over
You already had your fun, sacrifice him so the Leafs can win the Cup.
@StoicNature444 the Leafs could walk off the end of the earth and i wouldn't bat an eye
@StoicNature444 Toronto could walk hand in hand with the Edmonton Oilers
@@George-gf5xs Please George, we leave this world without anything, including Sid.
@@StoicNature444 Huh ???
Sidney has too much self respect to go to a fan base like the leafs
How dare you mr fake
Bedard is more elite than mack lin .
We want Florida.... Dummied!
Crosby will retire a Penguin obviously, does it matter if he only plays for Pittsburgh 🤔🤷♂️ he’s not getting another Cup with them, Penguins need to say to Sid if u want to go get another shot at a cup we will honour a trade, whoever it be with Leafs, Jets, Panthers, Avs, Stars, Rags, Bolts, Canes, Knights, Oilers, Devils, Nucks, anybody else wins the Cup out of these teams I’ll be shocked! Diehard Leafs fans are a community & a cult \, god if Leafs got a Cup in next 5 years nobody would celebrate it more, b coz it means more! Ps there was fans shouting we want Boston as well!
Crosby isn’t going anywhere. Sadly…and unfortunately…. He’s gonna rot in shitty ass boring washed up Pittsburgh.
And I don’t like it.
Celebrini's playing style (elite speed) suits the NHL more than Bedards - that's the bottom line. Bedard may have been a generational junior player, but as most students of hockey know that's nots enough to be a star in the big leagues. Celebrini has the drive, skill and speed to dominate at the NHL level.
He already is
Courtnall for Kordic worst Leafs trade. Ever.