But let's touch on the real reason the Puma does well with Phly at the wheel. Every time Phly sees a Puma, it's like a red rag to a bull. *Must kill* But if Phly's the one driving the Puma, there's no Phly out there to kill him. Everyone else sees it and goes "Oh, it's that Sonderkraftfahrzeug 234 or whatever you call it. Noonie noonie noo." Logically, a Phly Puma is safer than a non-Phly Puma. Day 49, I think: Take the Scimitar, the last Supermarine, out for a spin. You got quad 30 mm and 20 kg/s burst mass, you got 24 chances to find out if British AP rockets actually do anything... though the Sea Hawk is better for that. But, yeah, Scimitar.
there are people out there knowing what it can do, that don`t underestimate it. anoying for when you play the puma but logical, and then there are people who never gave it a chance at higher tier and think it is useless
Hey Phly! About 3 years ago you made a video about the AMX-30B2 BRENUS and how it was one of the worst MBTs in the game. Well today the BRENUS has had quite a glow up, as it now boasts a pretty nice array of tools at the comfortable BR of 8.3, such as thermals, a laser rangefinder, IRCM, and a pretty nice lineup to back it up. So I encourage you to take a look at this underappreciated vehicle again (day 13)
@@Ballistics_Computer yeah but most of the time when playing it like the meta. I love all of the AMX-30s but on 8.3 it has the highest skillcap of all the medium tanks.
One of the other benefits of scouts- even players with near zero situational awareness will gravitate towards scout tags, meaning you end up with fewer team members out of formation and useless in a fight. And when it's a scout with a good enough gun to contribute? You get this.
Frankly, it deserves a BR on par with SARC 6lber or M24. I hate how German vehicles almost exclusively have lower BR's for comparable vehicles and in many cases vehicles that are objectively better. I laugh every time I see a Chi-Nu knowing it's at 3.3 the same as the Panzer IV F2 and G when those both have better everything compared to the Chi-Nu.
@@erke7835 The T-50 isn't as good as the Puma. The Puma has smoke, a better gun and while the T-50 has okay armor, it's turret traverse is abysmal and it's armor is really only good at that BR. At higher BR, the Puma is better served as no armor can save you from an APHE detonation. And the T-50 doesn't scout and it's APHE round gets through like 70mm of armor? It's not great. But at 2.7, it's a bit of a bitch. The one other tank at 2.7 I agree is really low in BR is the M4A3 105, but we can find bad BR's in every single tree. It just doesn't change the fact that Germany, hands fucking down, has the most ridiculously favorable BR's in the entire game.
@@adamg7984 I played it on 5.7 a few days ago and bounced three shots before dying, two from an EBR. The T-50 can also scout, check your facts. Can also oneshot Panthers in the side so it does definitely put in work even at 5.7. With the rest I can agree
@@adamg7984 Somehow I feel like you wanna convince me the Puma is better and Germany is broken but I literally never said anything to contest that. I even said you were right about the rest. I was just saying the T-50 is pretty cool to play at higher BRs aswell, I'm having a ton of fun in that thing and I'd like to see a vid on it is all. Also I'm not doing so well against KV-1s in my Puma but that's probably bad luck/skill issue
I was playing it at 11.0 BR and actually doing pretty well. The trick is hide and spot, wait for enemy team to drive past you. And start shooting the stragglers in the back and work your way toward the front line. I even penned and one shoted a T80 from the front through the turret ring.
You tell me. He was coming up over a hill through a bush and startled me because he was the only one that realized I was behind them spotting and shooting his team in the butt. Bro probably deleted the game lol
Yes but to save weight they made the roof 0.1 mm of aluminium and when it was tested the speed of the tank kicked up rocks that fell down on the tank and killed it's crew
Never played War Thunder in my life, but I love watching people that are good at it! I get all the joy and dopamine of being good and getting kills by living vicariously through Phly without any of the gamer rage and grinding!!! I have thought about giving it a shot, I think I have enough daily salt intake with League.
@Kampy do not listen to that capitalist pig up above my comment, trust me, war-thunder is extremely fun once you get used to the controls, and the economy.
Changing my spawn order to take out the lights first and mediums and heavies at the ende, roughly 12 month ago, significantly raised my KD and SL/RP income, solid advice
@@ericgrutzmacherkoch9863 Yep exactly, nearly every SPAA can take out nearly every light, for mediums and heavies there's a way lower number of SPAA which can actually cause significant damage
The absolute best lower tier tank to use at higher tiers Ive found is for sure the BT7 F32 event vehicle from a few years ago. Its not as fast as the puma and has a little less pen but the round it has is magic at top tier and the turret traverse is a lot faster. Its my go to for grinding SL via god modes at top tier lol. I highly recommend checking it out, it hasn't had too much cover in the past.
the intro reminds of the time when I was sitting near C cap in the giant version of the eastern province map. I was in my german bulldog waiting for someone to creep out of the forest and try to cap C. when an enemy bulldog parked near my bush. we both looked at each for like a second.(but it felt like an eternity) and then we both got gaijined. He shot first then i shot first. neither of us caused damaged. he fired again and only took out my driver. I got him in my second shot. it was super awkward. like were less than 20m apart.
OMG make a series of taking low tier ground vehicles into high tier matches! I use m22 locusts at every br, it's honestly the most fun I've ever had in war thunder
I just love how a player in a BR 2.7 light tank can be all like "Ah, a BR 5.7 heavy tank, I'll deal with it in a moment..." and then just goes and obliterates it.
Day 135: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
puma is realistically competitive up to 7.7. it's performance is on par with most MBTs from a mobility standpoint, and because no armor=best armor, it's decently survivable. the firepower is OK ish. if it pens, it kills. but it's effective pen with it's APC explosive filler round is something like 60mm.
@@austriankangaroo base pen stat doesn't mean jack on the battlefield. if you want to kill what you hit in RB or SB, be sure to understand your round and your target. if I know my round has a base pen stat of 149mm, I will assume it will reliably pen 100mm of armor at most distances, up to a certain angle. the UFP of a panther is 80mm sloped at 55 degrees. you won't pen that with AP from the sherman's 76 (which is the aforementioned 149mm of pen) on a flat-ish field at any range.
That thumbnail was an actual design called vk 16.02 leopard, basically an tracked more armored version of puma, there were even variants with the 3cm kugelblitz autocannon
The Puma is an evil vehicle. I've taken it up to 6.3 before (my friends dragged me up with their Tigers) and because its so fast you can get around the sides of the map and do naughty things. Panzer IV F2 and Marder III H are also decent at 6.3. They didn't have enough armour at 3.3 to survive short 75s, so there's no real difference in survivability at 6.3. And the guns are more than good enough to kill Jumbos if you know where to shoot.
If only it was rank 3, or if tasks didn't require rank 3+ so often... Honestly it really needs to go up in B.R., it's just so darn good. I would love to use it alongside 5.3-6.3 German vehicles.
A big issue with bringing a low tier vehicle with a higher tier vehicle is earning RP towards unlocking a tank at a higher is severely reduced. So there is not much incentive to do so.
I consider the puma almost vital at 5.3- 6.0 range for Germany, the lack of vehicles with good mobility can actually give a huge disadvantage for the team
Phly can you please make a 2 minute intro on the controls that you use for playing. I think it would be especially useful for vehicles with weird weapon systems (Day 13)
So Puma is great even in much higher BR, but I just wanna ask, since I play british tanks, how does SARC 6-pdr do in simular BR as shown in this video? Is it wort it to take SARC to ~6.7 BR?
Usually I enjoy your vids. I usually watch them within hours of being posted. But, the level of hate I have for Puma's and the sweaty Chad's that drive them, prevents me from watching this video. So, I hit that Thumbs up button, twice. ;)
when i played germany i only stop using the puma when i got the BMP-1, i unironically went all the way with 7.0 or something with the puma as my second vehicle
Challenge Play the puma but play the amup Which is playing the puma but driving backwards It’s surprisingly effective due to the massive engine in front of the crew
I love just how many of the 2.7 light tanks hold up into mid tier
*sad french noises*
*sad Matilda noises*
@@kirishima638 *light tanks*
m22
i only see that with the puma and the chaffy, idk how that'd qualify as "many" tho
But let's touch on the real reason the Puma does well with Phly at the wheel. Every time Phly sees a Puma, it's like a red rag to a bull. *Must kill*
But if Phly's the one driving the Puma, there's no Phly out there to kill him. Everyone else sees it and goes "Oh, it's that Sonderkraftfahrzeug 234 or whatever you call it. Noonie noonie noo."
Logically, a Phly Puma is safer than a non-Phly Puma.
Day 49, I think: Take the Scimitar, the last Supermarine, out for a spin. You got quad 30 mm and 20 kg/s burst mass, you got 24 chances to find out if British AP rockets actually do anything... though the Sea Hawk is better for that. But, yeah, Scimitar.
This logic is amazing and makes sense
there are people out there knowing what it can do, that don`t underestimate it. anoying for when you play the puma but logical, and then there are people who never gave it a chance at higher tier and think it is useless
I support the Scimitar suggestion.
i like the scimitar but the rudder fuckery is bullshit XD
Hellcat: *"Finally a worthy Opponent, Our battle will be Legendary!"*
pre mobility nerf hellcat
Phinally*
2.7->5.7
Repair cost 30000
Oh shii what movie was that line from
@@swarv5027 Kung fu panda, look up 'Tai lung vs furious five'
Hey Phly! About 3 years ago you made a video about the AMX-30B2 BRENUS and how it was one of the worst MBTs in the game. Well today the BRENUS has had quite a glow up, as it now boasts a pretty nice array of tools at the comfortable BR of 8.3, such as thermals, a laser rangefinder, IRCM, and a pretty nice lineup to back it up. So I encourage you to take a look at this underappreciated vehicle again (day 13)
god bless you
Agreed
Not at all... It lacks the stabilizer...
@@reib00n not always a necessary component
@@Ballistics_Computer yeah but most of the time when playing it like the meta. I love all of the AMX-30s but on 8.3 it has the highest skillcap of all the medium tanks.
One of the other benefits of scouts- even players with near zero situational awareness will gravitate towards scout tags, meaning you end up with fewer team members out of formation and useless in a fight. And when it's a scout with a good enough gun to contribute? You get this.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
How many times do you comment on one video
One of my favorite German vehicles. It truly compliments every lineup for Germany until the modern times.
Frankly, it deserves a BR on par with SARC 6lber or M24. I hate how German vehicles almost exclusively have lower BR's for comparable vehicles and in many cases vehicles that are objectively better. I laugh every time I see a Chi-Nu knowing it's at 3.3 the same as the Panzer IV F2 and G when those both have better everything compared to the Chi-Nu.
@@adamg7984 Friendly reminder that the T-50 too is at 2.7
@@erke7835 The T-50 isn't as good as the Puma. The Puma has smoke, a better gun and while the T-50 has okay armor, it's turret traverse is abysmal and it's armor is really only good at that BR. At higher BR, the Puma is better served as no armor can save you from an APHE detonation. And the T-50 doesn't scout and it's APHE round gets through like 70mm of armor? It's not great. But at 2.7, it's a bit of a bitch. The one other tank at 2.7 I agree is really low in BR is the M4A3 105, but we can find bad BR's in every single tree. It just doesn't change the fact that Germany, hands fucking down, has the most ridiculously favorable BR's in the entire game.
@@adamg7984 I played it on 5.7 a few days ago and bounced three shots before dying, two from an EBR. The T-50 can also scout, check your facts. Can also oneshot Panthers in the side so it does definitely put in work even at 5.7. With the rest I can agree
@@adamg7984 Somehow I feel like you wanna convince me the Puma is better and Germany is broken but I literally never said anything to contest that. I even said you were right about the rest. I was just saying the T-50 is pretty cool to play at higher BRs aswell, I'm having a ton of fun in that thing and I'd like to see a vid on it is all. Also I'm not doing so well against KV-1s in my Puma but that's probably bad luck/skill issue
I was playing it at 11.0 BR and actually doing pretty well. The trick is hide and spot, wait for enemy team to drive past you. And start shooting the stragglers in the back and work your way toward the front line. I even penned and one shoted a T80 from the front through the turret ring.
TF how you one shot a t80 through the turret ring
You tell me. He was coming up over a hill through a bush and startled me because he was the only one that realized I was behind them spotting and shooting his team in the butt. Bro probably deleted the game lol
@@ulfhedtyrsson yea probably XD
I used a Sturer Emil at 11.0 on Ash river up by the C point and killed an Abrams and a Type 10 :D
@@panzerlite8108 I killed an T-72 Turmst with a BT-5
The thumbnail is actually a late war prototype known as a jagdpuma it went 236 km/h and has 3000mm of armour
Yes but to save weight they made the roof 0.1 mm of aluminium and when it was tested the speed of the tank kicked up rocks that fell down on the tank and killed it's crew
Truly the most sophisticated war machine
So did you give up on the p51?
@@danielmerhi4456 wdym, he made the video
absolutly, i love the puma. have more than 300 kills in it, almost all from br6.7
@@ab.990 WHEN????
@@ab.990 but it was the p51 D if im not mistaken, and you asked for a different variant.
Damnit you killed me Phly!! (At 0:43)
I’m jealous
Never played War Thunder in my life, but I love watching people that are good at it! I get all the joy and dopamine of being good and getting kills by living vicariously through Phly without any of the gamer rage and grinding!!!
I have thought about giving it a shot, I think I have enough daily salt intake with League.
Good on you! Stay away if you value your sanity. Sincerely, someone with 1,402 hours in game.
@Kampy do not listen to that capitalist pig up above my comment, trust me, war-thunder is extremely fun once you get used to the controls, and the economy.
War Thunder is extremely fun until it isn't(gets spawn bombed,CAS,game lags,ghost shells)
@@thelogician3845 the latter 2 depend on the internet.
@@JosephStalin-yk2hd how is it possible that i run WoWs at 50fps and war thunder at 20?It's really sus
It astounds me that this isn't a premium or event vehicle. I love it.
Why would it be? They built a fair number of them, and there are variants that are premium/event.
Oh it would be if it were added today.
He could use 2 of these wild animals in a battle, great to have the TD version as extra
@@DarthCody700 there's plenty of common ww2 vehicles that got added as prems or events in wt.
@@DarthCody700 the french built a fair number of EBRs and the 2cm sdkfz 234 was built in even larger numbers and thats not regular tech tree
Ph for Phly, who does not have the most hours in War Tinder.
Changing my spawn order to take out the lights first and mediums and heavies at the ende, roughly 12 month ago, significantly raised my KD and SL/RP income, solid advice
I'm planning to do that. I've seen some enemies do that and its really hard to kill them towards the end
The late game SPAA spawns are another good reason to save the heavier stuff for later.
@@ericgrutzmacherkoch9863 Yep exactly, nearly every SPAA can take out nearly every light, for mediums and heavies there's a way lower number of SPAA which can actually cause significant damage
The absolute best lower tier tank to use at higher tiers Ive found is for sure the BT7 F32 event vehicle from a few years ago. Its not as fast as the puma and has a little less pen but the round it has is magic at top tier and the turret traverse is a lot faster. Its my go to for grinding SL via god modes at top tier lol. I highly recommend checking it out, it hasn't had too much cover in the past.
the intro reminds of the time when I was sitting near C cap in the giant version of the eastern province map.
I was in my german bulldog waiting for someone to creep out of the forest and try to cap C. when an enemy bulldog parked near my bush. we both looked at each for like a second.(but it felt like an eternity) and then we both got gaijined. He shot first then i shot first. neither of us caused damaged. he fired again and only took out my driver. I got him in my second shot. it was super awkward. like were less than 20m apart.
OMG make a series of taking low tier ground vehicles into high tier matches! I use m22 locusts at every br, it's honestly the most fun I've ever had in war thunder
imagine if they added the T9 (the m22 prototype with a stabilizer) or the british M22 with the little john adapter.
12:12 that was me Phly lol
Seven years of golden entertainment AND HE JUST KEEPS ON GOING 👏👏👏
5:09 funny how Phly didn't even try to hit the ammos
I just love how a player in a BR 2.7 light tank can be all like "Ah, a BR 5.7 heavy tank, I'll deal with it in a moment..." and then just goes and obliterates it.
That guy had to tickle you with his muzzle break to find ya in them trees
Day 135: Phly, you should play the Hawk III Chinese fighter; 900lbs of bombs in a biplane at 1.0 that you can dogfight in after dropping. Totally balanced.
Keep grinding and I,ll help push your comment to the top
For people wanting to know the intro/little guitar piece it's Never Return · Carvings
puma is realistically competitive up to 7.7. it's performance is on par with most MBTs from a mobility standpoint, and because no armor=best armor, it's decently survivable. the firepower is OK ish. if it pens, it kills. but it's effective pen with it's APC explosive filler round is something like 60mm.
But it has over 100mm pen?
@@austriankangaroo base pen stat doesn't mean jack on the battlefield. if you want to kill what you hit in RB or SB, be sure to understand your round and your target. if I know my round has a base pen stat of 149mm, I will assume it will reliably pen 100mm of armor at most distances, up to a certain angle. the UFP of a panther is 80mm sloped at 55 degrees. you won't pen that with AP from the sherman's 76 (which is the aforementioned 149mm of pen) on a flat-ish field at any range.
Phly, that intro had me in absolute creases XD
Doing the Same thing with the BT-7A F-32 with the T-34 76mm gun. Pairs up nicely with the IS-2
That thumbnail was an actual design called vk 16.02 leopard, basically an tracked more armored version of puma, there were even variants with the 3cm kugelblitz autocannon
This is like watching Vade play the Puma in Post Scriptum, only it's in third person mode and narrated by your dad.
The Puma is an evil vehicle. I've taken it up to 6.3 before (my friends dragged me up with their Tigers) and because its so fast you can get around the sides of the map and do naughty things.
Panzer IV F2 and Marder III H are also decent at 6.3. They didn't have enough armour at 3.3 to survive short 75s, so there's no real difference in survivability at 6.3. And the guns are more than good enough to kill Jumbos if you know where to shoot.
i'm never gonna get tired of your puma vids
Now you have to play it at 11.0 and get an ace. I dare you.
16:26 Speeeeeeeeed! And Powah!
When the puma trying to vibe at 6.3
My best hunter moment was to perform a fully charged GS Rage Slash on two sleeping monster's heads in one strike.
puma is my most played tank, near thousand games in it i use it at any tier
Attempt 249:
Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 37MM/23MM Vodka launcher Jet.
phly listen to him
“Germany suffers” the puma is so under br
If only it was rank 3, or if tasks didn't require rank 3+ so often...
Honestly it really needs to go up in B.R., it's just so darn good. I would love to use it alongside 5.3-6.3 German vehicles.
Germany definitely needs a rank iii light of some kind
Yep i used to play the puma in 6.3 a lot too, until i got the bulldog anyway
A big issue with bringing a low tier vehicle with a higher tier vehicle is earning RP towards unlocking a tank at a higher is severely reduced. So there is not much incentive to do so.
next day, pumas everywhere above 4.0
Kinda funny given the puma was mid-late war tank, so historically the 5.0 to 6.7 range would be the vehicle's it actually could've faced
The BR was not made based on its historical time. It is based on its performance
@@markhylis9561 Sadly
@@GHOST_CROATIA not for vrichles like the maus which would easily take out a full team of tiger 2 pz and jumbos
@@ea5port419 Then remove experimental/ not combat-used vehicles or increase repair for op vehicles.
@@GHOST_CROATIA that would piss off everyone who bought tanks like the e100 on the marketplace
Started playing in 2014, have a total of 2297 hours 42 mins of playtime
Ayo , take it up to 8.3 , you’d be surprised how well it works
I remember using my Puma as my scout choice in my 7.3 lineup alongside my Leo 1, that thing is just so versatile and useful
Challenge: get the nuke via scouting only.
Just kidding, i doubt thats doable, and I'd like Phly to keep his sanity
What sanity?
Sneaky Puma!
I consider the puma almost vital at 5.3- 6.0 range for Germany, the lack of vehicles with good mobility can actually give a huge disadvantage for the team
11:35 it was at this moment he knew he .... 🤣🤣😉😗
Phly can you please make a 2 minute intro on the controls that you use for playing. I think it would be especially useful for vehicles with weird weapon systems (Day 13)
PH
We must oblige papi phly.
Lmao i just looked up one of your Puma vids earlier today
This is one of my favorite vehicles.
Recently got cut from my baseball team and this cheered me up.. Thanks man.
Purposefully undertiering oneself is really fun
Choosing Puma first to capture points is a no brainer
#91 Loving the Unloved: Play the lovechild of a Spitfire and a Mustang. The beautiful MB5.
That thumbnail is so cursed, yet so cute
8:10 "TAM"
The pumas gotta be the best mid tier tank ever
Whats the name of the guitar song at the beginning?
So Puma is great even in much higher BR, but I just wanna ask, since I play british tanks, how does SARC 6-pdr do in simular BR as shown in this video? Is it wort it to take SARC to ~6.7 BR?
Puma is still my number one to go to.. until now.
The thumbnail though 😆😆
I’m going to turn that thumbnail into a sprocket tank
I can't tell if Phly sounds like winnie the pooh or a surfer, but I love it just the same
10:34 heard him talk like that a whole while ago...so was suprised in bad way though
T-50 works well up tiered for Russia. Pretty fast, decent pen. Fast reload and can't be killed by heavy MGs. Can even bounce rounds as well.
If you use that the the t-126 must be god tier
I don't have past 5.7 Germans, but I always take the Puma. Sometimes I'll even take it out first to get some sweet side shots on Jumbos.
Custom match M22s and pumas vs anything 6.7-7.7.
4:15 ”hehehehe"
can u try the do17z7 it’s really good in tank rb
"PH in chat 90 million times" done lol
Great video. Now my average German teammates are running around with Puma in 6.3 like idiots.
Puma is the staghounds favorite food!
hi phly can you please do you play with the xm975
Now do this with a sarc 6pdr (or Daimler) :)
Love the blursed thumbnail
In some of your situations you should properly shot for the ammo stash it takes less time
Thing is pumas are sometimes wprse at 2.7 than they are at 5.7-6.3 cuz at 2.7 there like a million BT-5s everywhere
This little beast is purrrfect
As a great man once said “no armour is best armour”
Puma should be a rank 3 vehicle.
_I want to final have vehicle that can do the special tasks._
my soup almost went out my nose when you said 6.7 Germany is "pretty strong". haven't laugh like that in a while so thanks.
I roleplay a medic with puma at 6.7
Usually I enjoy your vids. I usually watch them within hours of being posted.
But, the level of hate I have for Puma's and the sweaty Chad's that drive them, prevents me from watching this video.
So, I hit that Thumbs up button, twice. ;)
You legend! I’ve been doing this all week 😂
In every single one of my line ups. Got every free camo on it. It's a beast
when i played germany i only stop using the puma when i got the BMP-1, i unironically went all the way with 7.0 or something with the puma as my second vehicle
absolutely insane
1:11 Phphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphhphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphphhphphphphphphphphphphp
Challenge
Play the puma but play the amup
Which is playing the puma but driving backwards
It’s surprisingly effective due to the massive engine in front of the crew
Nice video, and you're right,this thing is a true monster.
Everybody laughs 'till the Puma shows up. PS: Totally on Panzerschokolade, Huh?
VERSATILITY
i personally like the Pz.II 50mm scout, just cause old school
Puma is a awesome tank!
being killed at that BR with a Puma is just insulting xD
Press PH to pay respect.