Infiniti needs to update those interiors, it looks like its stuck in 2010. Of course Nissan has a tendency to not update their cars, look at the Frontier, its been using the same design for 20 years.
dsparke93 yea definitely not ....the BMW looks way more modern even with less screen, love all the angles of the BMW interior, they somehow manage to keep that corporate BMW interior look familiar but a lot more modern and fresh.
"Less powerful" is debatable. BMW is renowned for understating the power of their vehicles, especially the higher performance/higher-powered vehicles. Throw one on a dyno and it will usually put out in wheel HP awhat BMW states is its crank HP if not more.
@@dondadaking BMW rates their motors at the wheels to reduce insurance cost. The M340i makes 445 at the motor explaining how Car and Driver went 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds. They are not being fair to insurance companies to which I reply, Thank You BMW
I love that vq/vr sound. I had a 370z and I put exhaust on it. It sounded so good. Sounds just like a GTR minus the turbo sounds and it was a little higher pitched. But the GTR, 370z, q60, g37 are some of the best sounding v6 engines IMO.
“Both of them are very similar” kinda yeah but the infiniti cant push 600+ whp on the stock transmission and reliably. BMWs are drivers cars and in my opinion the m340i is better looks, tech, and engine wise.
Jon Becker I agree with you I think a Q50/60 with the VR30 can be a better cheaper value if the person buying it doesnt want to make supercar amounts of power
Agree with Nathan, IF only Infiniti redesigned the interior and updated that horrible infotainment. Nissan/Infiniti is getting left behind every day that goes by and Hyundai /Genesis is taking the lead more and more.
Daniel Hernandez exactly a sporty car is especially comfortable in it’s comfortable mode and especially stiff in its sport mode so knocking it for being stiff in its sporty mode is completely counter intuitive
Agreed. Whenever I see the older ones out there, I often wonder if anyone at Nissan/Inifinity that actually cares about cars would admit the brand imploded itself for now reason other than greed and stupidity. Hopefully Nissan upgrades the Z with the VR30, but looking around, looks like more people are doing swaps
You also have to understand these numbers are on a manufacturers car, tested by Car and Driver. They are weather adjusted as well (and we don't know how far they are adjusted). If you go to the dealership and time a stock M340i, you will be closer to the mid 4s 0-60, and higher 12s quarter mile. They wouldn't just sell a 470hp car for under 60k, hence taking out the point of the M3/M4.
Dima K bmw rates their cars horsepower at the crank instead of whp, the M340i does indeed have around 470 horsepower at the crank and the M3/4 have around 500 at crank and around 530 for the competition specs and they even underrate their 0-60 times, the M5 comp according to bmw has a 0-60 time of 3.1 but independent tuners and auto magazines confirmed its more like 2.8 seconds... (746 crank hp for M5 comp) you can find conversion calculators online if ur interested
@@rhsalce you may have to press the sport button twice in quick succession to get in sport plus, that is true in the older model otherwise consult the manual in your i drive. I believe on the newer cars you can set up sport individual and configure it to go into sports plus when you select sport with the button on the center console by default.
I had a q50 lux which has the detuned 3.0T still over 300 hp as a loaner for a week. I was actually really impressed with the power and the comfort. It doesn't have the glitz tech like you get in the BMW but it's an honest, reliable, comfortable and quick car. You can even find CPO low mileage for
Leeku i guess you are one if those that are never satisfied with anything. had bmws for 1 decade plus, and had honda, toyota, mercedes, ... the infiniti has one of the best built interior. but people just like to repeat what an online reviewer says. That 340i bmw interior is better? my 2012 had that same interior.. it is familar and less scary to look at but it is oooolllddd.
If I’m paying close to $60k I’d like my infotainment screen to have more pixels. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not a bmw fanboy by any means. My 2013 golf R had a better infotainment screen and that was cr@p in itself.
They are a mile above sea level . All numbers are worse with lower air density. They are basically driving a car under the worst possible heat soak conditions.
I've had both of these cars. With an AMG C43 In between. The M340i is by far the best of the bunch. The interior and exterior styling of that Infiniti is virtually unchanged since 2014. It's still very sexy... But so outdated. Plus if you're thinking about leasing... The Bimmer's Residual value is so much better than the Q50 (and C43)... That it'll make up for the $9k difference in MSRP. I'm in my current 36/10 lease for $550 per month, with only fees down.
not to mention they didn't elaborate how the BMW was spec'ed my 2020 m340i was 59k USD out the door. If it's a media tester, then its fully loaded to the teeth and that means its has all the extra luxury extras including the tanzanite blue 2 which is 1000 dollars on top of the base MSRP of 54,500 USD.
Xeno I have to disagree. BMW has this motor sorted out. Remember TOYOTA is using this same motor in the Supra. That should tell you how bullet proof this thing is.
@@shahbazrabbani Its not just the motor. I meant the electronics, transmission and drivetrain etc. Its all old Nissan tech. Performance comes with bugs and repair costs - its not like the Japanese doesn't know how they just don't do it as aggressively.
Xeno you do have a point. I’ve personally owned Audi’s and my family/friends have owned bmw’s (albeit no more than 5 years at a time when bought new) and never had any issues. I think when folks talk about reliability, they mean cost of ownership beyond first 3-5 years because that’s where Japanese cars are more reliable probably.
SHAZOM when the g70 gets the updated tech like bigger screens and hopefully discounts it’ll be one of the best cars. It still won’t sell over these cars until it’s actually way cheaper and it just isn’t right now
The trans is a weak point in both the 3.7 and 3.0t versions. Shoulda went with the ZF8 from the get go. The interior is ok if you buy it used and don’t have to take the depreciation hit. I picked my 2014 up for 23k and it felt just fine for the price. It however, does rattle more than my 2008 Silverado extended cab did.
@@PR1NCETD0T I owned a 2005 g35 coupe, v35 and z33 had the same drivetrain, suspension, exhaust system and brembo calipers. The only thing the V6 Altimas shared with the Maxima was the VQ engine and transmission. Altimas came with a 4 cylinder in base model while the Maximas only came with a V6 as the only engine choice.
I think it's important to point out that the tested redsport had the OPTIONAL sport exhaust equipped. Otherwise the car's sound is really really quite and does not feel sporty at all.
I’d like to say that the 7 speed in my q50 3.0t does not really react like unexpected or delayed kickdowns, the computer is just really laggy and is confused if I can call it that
@@aliahmer9885 I can confirm the trans ecu is tuned for crap, but an AMS tune can override those variables a JB4 cannot. In manual mode there are no issues.
Why does EVERYBODY hate on the q50’s interior?!? I have always loved it! My only gripe is that I would prefer just one touch screen. It definitely doesn’t appear dated to me tho..
The Infiniti was loader and more adult sounding with a deeper tone the BMW is only talked about because it’s tuned to put a little extra fuel in for your pops and bangs.
I have a 2013 Audi S5 Cabriolet Prestige with a supercharged 3.0 liter 333HP. Specs say it does 0 to 60 in 4.8. Maybe turbo cars suffer from a little lag. I also own a 2011 Cadillac CTS-V with a 6.2 liter supercharged motor. It supposedly has 556 HP. 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds. Both cars are a blast to drive. The cars reviewed here are newer and beautiful. I appreciate the review. Very well done. I'm personally looking forward to owning a new C8 Corvette in a couple of years. Thanks guys!
The M340i in this video will run laps around your 2013 S5 in real world. They didn't launch it properly. However, if you get the C8 (especially with Z06 package), you will be smoking all the cars mentioned.
The BMW price is inaccurate. I purchased a 2020 BMW M340i X drive in 6 months ago in Scottsdale, AZ. Fully loaded, executive package, performance package, both drivers package, gesture control, phone charging pad. With rebates and loyalty discounts $60, 200 out the door.
The only compare Monroney's (sticker prices) on all their cars, this keep things a bit more apples to apples since rebate and incentives can fluctuate.
@@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021 Sorry to bust your bubble, but you overpaid by a good stretch. I have a 2020 X5, that was discounted to a total of 17%+ from MSRP after ALL rebates are applied. You can simple google BMW forums if you want to verify.
You see those things behind the steering wheels? They’re called paddle shifters and some of us would like to see how good they work on the cars you review. If we can’t get manual transmissions and are stuck with paddles at least use them so we can see if they’re any good. Please and thank you.
Close contest! It would be great if Infiniti was more aggressive in researching and developing new vehicles. Like you said, with Nissan’s experience and ability to make high-performance cars, Infiniti has so much more potential that they could be bringing to the table in the sports car arena.
4:50 The Q50 and GTR are actually related in terms of engine & powertrain. It's a GTR-derived VR30 motor (GTR's are VR38), and the AWD system in both cars is also very similar and shares the same components. The transmission in the Q50 is it's main weak point, which has been brought up as a pain point endless times over the years.
@@dom718293 did you just say that a VQ series motor is more closely related to a VR than another VR series motor? It takes a special kind of dumb to write something like that 🤣
Dominique Sanchez The Q50 doesn’t even have the VQ37, it has the VR30, which is closely related to the GTR’s VR38. Read what you posted before you try to school people.
Fordguy1997 I have it. It is pretty quick, BUT I doubt there’s any 400+hp sedan from BMW, Audi, Mercedes, and Infiniti that would lose to the MKZ. MKZ has to be one of the slowest 400hp sedans out there. The reason it’s slow is that even with AWD, it can’t ever launch without spinning the tires or bouncing the tires. It’s beyond embarrassing how poorly Lincoln thought this out. They just tossed in a turbo V6 and called it a day when in fact it needed tuning of several physical parts to be able to put the power down. 6 speed automatic in 2020 is beyond embarrassing. I still love the car though, the bmw 3 series and Q50 are quicker, but the Lincoln is so far ahead in features. Things like power closing trunk, full glass panoramic roof, 1200 watt sound system, 360 degree parking sensors(Infiniti and bmw only have front and rear, mkz can sense 360 degrees), and it’s far more comfortable.
I’m guessing that’s because depending on location. Most read from left-to-right so straying away from that makes you think longer about it. Most bmw drivers I know don’t mind it after a while, or they don’t care cause they’re not really car enthusiasts.
I own a 2020 Ⓜ️340i and I hate my gauges that was the only let down when it came to this car! But I will admit after a while U get use to them and it doesn’t bother you as much because the performance is so awesome! 💙🤍🖤
I own a 2019 and 2020 Q50S. I love them. It comes down to personal preference. You guys made a great video and it was funny. Oops...actually I lease both!!!
W W I will hold my opinion on “ Ultimate driving Machine” the current generation of M series just not that good. Even the Camaro ss will easily over take the M3 and M4.
Because you don't even own a car all you are talking is BS, just SHUT UP!!! The B engine on the BMW is the most reliable engine of all time it followed the proof of the N52.. Just SHUT Up, loser... Bloody poor idiot, talking nonsense..
@@latino914 did you say something?? Go and work and make money and stop crying over nothing, your broke ass makes you see the negatives, if you had money you wouldn't be crying over noticing... Go and work, the truth hurts, right...
I didn't see any mention about the artificial exhaust sound from the speakers and impact on the interior sound. This can be turned off in the settings.
Really like that Q50S Redsport. If decided to pull the trigger on a performance sedan again it would be between this and the Lexus GS F, but pre-owned. I would want a more reliable luxo performance sedan that I wouldn't have to worry about down the road. Done with my Bimmers...great cars, but getting to be a pain as far as cost of ownership even for a DIY'er.
bro i had a q50 redsport and it was the worst car i owned the car was stock and i had to replace the transmission twice what a pos transmission how nissan put that transmission in a performance car? now i own an m340i super reliable grat mpg better tech and faster
@@b58forever Oh man. That sucks. Found a nice GS 350 recently with the luxury package. Has everything I need and want. Nice Bimmer. I'm at the point of my life where I just want cars that will go the distance with the least amount of maintenance other than preventative. Done buying every few years and throwing money away. Too bad you had problems with that Infiniti. I'm sticking with slightly older Toyota products from here on out. No turbos, no hybrid no direct injection unless it also has port. Enjoy the Bimmer as I know you will👍🏾
@@rossaggethe GSF is super sick but so damn expensive and hard to find! I was thinking about a m340i , you don’t think they’re reliable ?? They have the same engine as the new Toyota Supra I’ve heard good things about the engine, but not sure what to think
Great and unbiased comparison! I think 5.9s against 5.64s is very negligible, given that the Infiniti's 7 speed needs more time to adjust to an aggressive driving style, unlike the more aggressively tuned sport+ mode of the BMW's 8 speed. Switching to non runflat tires on the Infiniti would also shave a decibel from the cabin sound.
Dima K yes but thats not correct, each car has their own configuration, some are too soft to give better ride some are not.... example AMG comfort is still like sport+ on bmw, in order to exploit full potential of both cars, set them to their best configuration and then give it a go
I have this car! It’s a 2 door red sport. I don’t consider a 4 door car a sports car. My car has all the extras you can get in this car. I like the interior of my car. I wouldn’t buy a BMW unless you want to put a lot of repair money into it. I’m not sure if you mention this the back tires are larger than the front. It’s a sports car! You’re suppose to feel the road. The car hug the road. I love to feel the road. I’ve had several different sports.
How is this even compared? That Infiniti has one of the UGLIEST interiors I’ve ever seen in my life. It looks like an Altima in there with that ugly little 3 inch screen between gauges. BMW has way more sophisticated lighting on the outside, and overall looks much better with way more modern features. You can keep your souped up Nisan. I’ll go German.
I'm a fan of your channel and subscribed to it years ago. I really enjoy your performance tests (both drag races and acceleration measurements). However, since I live in Asia, it would be much nicer to me and also European viewers of your channel to see measured data in KM/H too. I know you are an American channel and your metric system is miles per hour but I think performance measuring devices can record and show times in both km/h and mph units. So, you can announce 0-100 km/h time of each car you test whenever you measure its 0-60 mph time. This is just a suggestion and you may simply ignore it but it can make your channel appeal to viewers on a global scale. Thanks again for your efforts.
@@dtw1622 No, they are not the same thing. 0-60 mph = 0-96 km/h. There is a 4 km/h difference. This is very important especially when we measure the performance of normal passenger cars with weak engines. For example a 100 hp car will hit 60 mph in 11.0 seconds but reaches 100 km/h in 12.2 seconds!! 1.2 s is a considerable gap.
The q50 is unacceptable! We expect full body massage and a gravity defying coffee maker in the center console! Infiniti should lower the price to $20k new for this old pile!
@@DMCarReviews What a delusional person you are... even Infiniti owners hate the old and out dated system. You are literally arguing against the entire market except Acura/Infiniti. They are the only upscale brands stuck with shitty systems... actually even Acura moved on with the new RDX. It'll only be a year or two before Infiniti rolls out new infotainment. You can keep burying your head in the sand and use your flip phone though.
A simple oil change on time Inline 6 bmw are not having any issues reaching 100k.. I know quite a few who have 200k and motor still pulling very strong... the inline 6 turbo from bmw is one of the more reliable options as long as oil changes are done on time as its a performance engine if someone was not changing oil and abusing it of course more wear would incur
@@buzzpedrotti5401 The never have been money pits they cost more for maintenance cause they are a luxury car.. if u cant afford the maintenance on a bmw u cant afford a luxury car to begin with is the reality.... when broke people buy high mileage luxury cars and have to do high mileage maintenance it creates that stereotype but they just cant afford the car is the reality.. yes it cost more for oil changes, filters, etc.... and yes when that 150k or whatever hits and u need a near wear and tear part like a radiator that goes out or something its guna cost more... but those parts fail eventually in ALL cars water pumps, radiators, usually dont last as long as the engine that was well taken care of
@@lolz616 Yet the same people buy Toyotas & Lexi in the same condition and they aren't faced with the continuous decision of fix again at exhorbitant prices or junk it because the designers were cavalier about design for maintenance, six sigma reliability and misapplied plastics & green materials in locations where they degrade prematurely. How is it that a Lexus catalyst never needs to be replaced but BMW O2 sensors & catalysts are a timebombs? Why are LS430s timeless bank vaults and S500s and A8s expensive albatrosses? Perhaps these Japanese workmen value their work and customers more? Is 'european luxury" a value or a clever marketing ruse like DeBeers diamonds to fleece the gullible but productive of their gold?
I looked at both of these cars and I much preferred the Infiniti interior, More sculpted and nicer looking. Bought the Infiniti because it was way better looking, much cheaper to buy and the long term cost of ownership is far far less scary. The BMer was ever so slightly quieter but you hear a lot of road and tire noise. the Infiniti is a smidge louder but its the exhaust note you hear not tire howl and that is so much better. I'm very happy with my Q50 Redsport. With a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S this thing handles great too. Without question the Q50 is the best value, so if you aint filthy rich its the way to go.
Awesome, this was the head to head review i was hoping for.
How is this a head to head review? There is only one car in the video!
True 😂😂😂😂
Infiniti needs to update those interiors, it looks like its stuck in 2010. Of course Nissan has a tendency to not update their cars, look at the Frontier, its been using the same design for 20 years.
Carlos Ghosn specials.
Seven years and only minor cosmetic changes.
That interior reminds me sooo much of the 2007 G35 my friend had, and that’s an issue in 2020
@@DeanT1987 Yeah its not terrible by regular car standards, but for an expensive luxury car its not up to par.
dsparke93 yea definitely not ....the BMW looks way more modern even with less screen, love all the angles of the BMW interior, they somehow manage to keep that corporate BMW interior look familiar but a lot more modern and fresh.
"Less powerful" is debatable. BMW is renowned for understating the power of their vehicles, especially the higher performance/higher-powered vehicles. Throw one on a dyno and it will usually put out in wheel HP awhat BMW states is its crank HP if not more.
Yeah, these liars, it's probably 400hp.
Infiniti is also known for this..
I don't get this whole point of them lying🤷♂️ BMW juts doesn't seem to enjoy being fair.
@@dondadaking BMW rates their motors at the wheels to reduce insurance cost. The M340i makes 445 at the motor explaining how Car and Driver went 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds. They are not being fair to insurance companies to which I reply, Thank You BMW
@@dondadaking You're joking right? Infiniti has never been known to be underrating engines like BMW. You have to be from another universe
I’m sorry but this is the most boring review I’ve watched
Yep fell asleep twice watching this 😂
Not only this, they always sucks and boring
I love that vq/vr sound. I had a 370z and I put exhaust on it. It sounded so good. Sounds just like a GTR minus the turbo sounds and it was a little higher pitched. But the GTR, 370z, q60, g37 are some of the best sounding v6 engines IMO.
Jon Becker Mercedes V6TT in the C43’s sound unbelievable aswell.
@@willsull22 F-Type S V6 says high as well.
what about the giulia quadrifoglio
Q50 red sport for ever♥️🔥
“Both of them are very similar” kinda yeah but the infiniti cant push 600+ whp on the stock transmission and reliably. BMWs are drivers cars and in my opinion the m340i is better looks, tech, and engine wise.
Not too many people are going to buy the red sport to mod to 600 hp.
Jon Becker I agree with you I think a Q50/60 with the VR30 can be a better cheaper value if the person buying it doesnt want to make supercar amounts of power
Totally agree not to mention the B58 engine is a proven engine as well. I'll take the M340i any day over any compact sports sedan.
Agree with Nathan, IF only Infiniti redesigned the interior and updated that horrible infotainment. Nissan/Infiniti is getting left behind every day that goes by and Hyundai /Genesis is taking the lead more and more.
AlexLP there is multiple q50s/q60s making 580-600+. Haven’t seen a 9 second 340i...
Finally a video unrelated to coronavirus
What's the point of testing how comfortable the suspension is in sport mode instead of the most comfortable possible mode?
This Nathan guy needs to be judging figure skating and not reviewing cars... cringe
@Daniel Hernandez I don't get what you mean
Daniel Hernandez exactly a sporty car is especially comfortable in it’s comfortable mode and especially stiff in its sport mode so knocking it for being stiff in its sporty mode is completely counter intuitive
Exactly they should have put it in comfort mode maybe halfway through the road to test the improvement.
I still in love with my Q50 3.7
Agreed. Whenever I see the older ones out there, I often wonder if anyone at Nissan/Inifinity that actually cares about cars would admit the brand imploded itself for now reason other than greed and stupidity. Hopefully Nissan upgrades the Z with the VR30, but looking around, looks like more people are doing swaps
@@07wrxtr1 everything I've read suggests they will be dropping in the v6 TT. Just hope they mate it to the same transmission as the g37 6MT.
Probably not in love with that hideous interior
The best numbers I've seen for M340i are 3.7 for 0 to 60 and 12.08 1/4 mile, which reveal that its actual power is more like 460~470 at the crank.
Yea its definitely kicking more power than on paper just like *erm the supra i mean bmw z4 😂.
You also have to understand these numbers are on a manufacturers car, tested by Car and Driver. They are weather adjusted as well (and we don't know how far they are adjusted). If you go to the dealership and time a stock M340i, you will be closer to the mid 4s 0-60, and higher 12s quarter mile. They wouldn't just sell a 470hp car for under 60k, hence taking out the point of the M3/M4.
Dima K bmw rates their cars horsepower at the crank instead of whp, the M340i does indeed have around 470 horsepower at the crank and the M3/4 have around 500 at crank and around 530 for the competition specs and they even underrate their 0-60 times, the M5 comp according to bmw has a 0-60 time of 3.1 but independent tuners and auto magazines confirmed its more like 2.8 seconds... (746 crank hp for M5 comp) you can find conversion calculators online if ur interested
Sirril Vallikalam the supra isnt 335 at the crank lmao its more like 335 whp and 340 wtq which is 400 bhp and 400+wtq.
PR1NCETD0T I didn’t say anything about the Supra
sport plus, no lag
How do you put in sport plus?
@@rhsalce you may have to press the sport button twice in quick succession to get in sport plus, that is true in the older model otherwise consult the manual in your i drive. I believe on the newer cars you can set up sport individual and configure it to go into sports plus when you select sport with the button on the center console by default.
Definitely sport plus
it would've been cool if Nissan didn't cancel the q50 Eau Rouge with the detuned GTR motor
That was a thing😦😦😦😦
I had a q50 lux which has the detuned 3.0T still over 300 hp as a loaner for a week. I was actually really impressed with the power and the comfort. It doesn't have the glitz tech like you get in the BMW but it's an honest, reliable, comfortable and quick car. You can even find CPO low mileage for
Well said!
As far as exhausts go....upon start up I prefer the BMW but when revving to redline I prefer the Infiniti even though the BMW still sounds great!!!
I prefer the Infiniti as well.
Infiniti infotainment system straight from 8 bit Atari
Leeku people don’t buy it for that
You can get cars that are a third of the price with nicer interiors. I own an Infiniti and it’s painful on a day to day basis.
Leeku the q70 has a nicer interior in my opinion than the q50.
Leeku i guess you are one if those that are never satisfied with anything. had bmws for 1 decade plus, and had honda, toyota, mercedes, ... the infiniti has one of the best built interior. but people just like to repeat what an online reviewer says. That 340i bmw interior is better? my 2012 had that same interior.. it is familar and less scary to look at but it is oooolllddd.
If I’m paying close to $60k I’d like my infotainment screen to have more pixels. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not a bmw fanboy by any means. My 2013 golf R had a better infotainment screen and that was cr@p in itself.
These guys always get the worst 0-60 times 😂😂
I was just about to say the red sport doesn’t go in 5.9 lmao my Honda does that 💀
They are a mile above sea level . All numbers are worse with lower air density. They are basically driving a car under the worst possible heat soak conditions.
Lmao yea I’ve gotten my M340i stock to 60 in 3.9 seconds.
@@deputydrip4520 yeah of course you did. And then you woke up, right?
@@rickross6368 Nop, m340i x drive stock. I’ve seen times as low as 3.8 but I’m unable to hit those times.
At 03:38 someone tell these guys that the INFINITI HAS 2014 DESIGN AND HASN'T CHANGED SINCE!!!
It’s honestly unacceptable for a luxury sports car worth that much money
I like the Infiniti more but this was a really unbiased and fair comparison, really rare on youtube now
The BMW is light years ahead.
Given its a 6 year newer design, it only yields a bigger center screen and that ugly red virtual cockpit. That's quite sad.
Next year is Infiniti interior and exterior redesign
@@DMCarReviews audis are steaming piles of shit lol what are you doing here
My 2015 3.7 AWD Q50 0-60 is 5.58 sec. (Dragy performance meter)
Very good! My best is 5.41s. Note there are 3 people in the car, no launch, and a mile above sea level.
Recently got the same as you. Base q50 3.7 with the 19" wheels. Love the car so much. All it needs is a chrome delete.
I got 4.7 with my 2019 RT charger bone stock but I want a bmw
I've had both of these cars. With an AMG C43 In between. The M340i is by far the best of the bunch. The interior and exterior styling of that Infiniti is virtually unchanged since 2014. It's still very sexy... But so outdated.
Plus if you're thinking about leasing... The Bimmer's Residual value is so much better than the Q50 (and C43)... That it'll make up for the $9k difference in MSRP.
I'm in my current 36/10 lease for $550 per month, with only fees down.
not to mention they didn't elaborate how the BMW was spec'ed my 2020 m340i was 59k USD out the door. If it's a media tester, then its fully loaded to the teeth and that means its has all the extra luxury extras including the tanzanite blue 2 which is 1000 dollars on top of the base MSRP of 54,500 USD.
@@Carsandcoffee1212 how did you buy a media tester?
Drove both of these and I can promise that the BMW is the better car in almost every aspect.
I own the new g20 m340i x and I promise anyone on here it eats this 2014 (new)Infiniti all day. Not even a comparison..
Except for stigma, price, and reliability XD
Xeno I have to disagree. BMW has this motor sorted out. Remember TOYOTA is using this same motor in the Supra. That should tell you how bullet proof this thing is.
@@shahbazrabbani Its not just the motor. I meant the electronics, transmission and drivetrain etc. Its all old Nissan tech. Performance comes with bugs and repair costs - its not like the Japanese doesn't know how they just don't do it as aggressively.
Xeno you do have a point. I’ve personally owned Audi’s and my family/friends have owned bmw’s (albeit no more than 5 years at a time when bought new) and never had any issues. I think when folks talk about reliability, they mean cost of ownership beyond first 3-5 years because that’s where Japanese cars are more reliable probably.
Q50. Love the exhaust sound
I have the Q50s red sport. It’s ok because the transmission is extremely slow. It needs the 8 speed ZF. I got mine used for 35k usd out the door.
I would take a Stinger or a G70 instead of that.
I’m sure a tune would help the trans a bit
SHAZOM when the g70 gets the updated tech like bigger screens and hopefully discounts it’ll be one of the best cars. It still won’t sell over these cars until it’s actually way cheaper and it just isn’t right now
That's why I'm getting a 535i m sport for my parents. The Infiniti is sadly too slow
The trans is a weak point in both the 3.7 and 3.0t versions. Shoulda went with the ZF8 from the get go. The interior is ok if you buy it used and don’t have to take the depreciation hit. I picked my 2014 up for 23k and it felt just fine for the price. It however, does rattle more than my 2008 Silverado extended cab did.
The 6 cylinder BMW turbo motor is my favourite. Powerful and smooth.
The g35 and the older fx35 those sound amazing. I miss my 06 g35.
I remember when G coupe first came out, all the Z guys were mad that the G coupe had the same exhaust note as the Z.
s13one80 lol cause they share the same engine, also with the maximas and ultimas. Makes it less unique.
@@PR1NCETD0T I owned a 2005 g35 coupe, v35 and z33 had the same drivetrain, suspension, exhaust system and brembo calipers. The only thing the V6 Altimas shared with the Maxima was the VQ engine and transmission. Altimas came with a 4 cylinder in base model while the Maximas only came with a V6 as the only engine choice.
I think it's important to point out that the tested redsport had the OPTIONAL sport exhaust equipped. Otherwise the car's sound is really really quite and does not feel sporty at all.
Yup, this was helmholtz exhaust option. I have it
So they M doesn't come with a different exhaust? And it's standard on the Red Sport.
It should be noted this particular Q50 has the optional, dealer installed exhaust kit. The standard exhaust is actually pretty quiet, sadly.
AMS has a tune for the Infiniti. It puts out 408 whp and 468 lb/ft of torque...it also had mid range gains of 150 whp.
I’d like to say that the 7 speed in my q50 3.0t does not really react like unexpected or delayed kickdowns, the computer is just really laggy and is confused if I can call it that
I have a stage 1 tune on my M340i pushing 420WHP
@@aliahmer9885 I can confirm the trans ecu is tuned for crap, but an AMS tune can override those variables a JB4 cannot. In manual mode there are no issues.
Stage 2 M340 at the moment putting 515 to the rear wheels and 545 tq down
Why does EVERYBODY hate on the q50’s interior?!? I have always loved it! My only gripe is that I would prefer just one touch screen.
It definitely doesn’t appear dated to me tho..
the 3-series, one model the BMW designers haven’t ruined... yet
If you’ve owned multiple years 3 series like I have you know they have lol It just keeps getting bigger
Fake noos
The Infiniti was loader and more adult sounding with a deeper tone the BMW is only talked about because it’s tuned to put a little extra fuel in for your pops and bangs.
More straight sixes please! So smooth, so responsive.
Hopefully Mazda's i6 sounds good 🤞🏾
I have a 2013 Audi S5 Cabriolet Prestige with a supercharged 3.0 liter 333HP. Specs say it does 0 to 60 in 4.8. Maybe turbo cars suffer from a little lag. I also own a 2011 Cadillac CTS-V with a 6.2 liter supercharged motor. It supposedly has 556 HP. 0 to 60 in 3.8 seconds. Both cars are a blast to drive. The cars reviewed here are newer and beautiful. I appreciate the review. Very well done. I'm personally looking forward to owning a new C8 Corvette in a couple of years. Thanks guys!
nobody cares what the hell you drive...what was the point?
The M340i in this video will run laps around your 2013 S5 in real world. They didn't launch it properly. However, if you get the C8 (especially with Z06 package), you will be smoking all the cars mentioned.
Bmw has great power & fuel Economy 😏
I have a m340 and the fuel economy is shit
Still love the car thoe
Get the lesser Q50, the 3.0t sport. You give up a little bit of power but you get a real steering column. Makes all the difference.
Hill City Skunkworks true
the problem is that not many ppl aspire to own an infinit, theyve never broken into the top tier lux segment like lexus
That's because if we get technical, Acura and Infiniti are more of "premium" brands than "luxury" brands
I'll take BMW.
The BMW price is inaccurate. I purchased a 2020 BMW M340i X drive in 6 months ago in Scottsdale, AZ. Fully loaded, executive package, performance package, both drivers package, gesture control, phone charging pad. With rebates and loyalty discounts $60, 200 out the door.
The only compare Monroney's (sticker prices) on all their cars, this keep things a bit more apples to apples since rebate and incentives can fluctuate.
He clearly stated MSRP
You got cracked paying 60k for that car, dealer probably took wife and kids on vacation after you signed.
Scott MSRP is $58,750. Do your research DB!
@@everybitfitmesaazpersonalf4021 Sorry to bust your bubble, but you overpaid by a good stretch. I have a 2020 X5, that was discounted to a total of 17%+ from MSRP after ALL rebates are applied. You can simple google BMW forums if you want to verify.
You see those things behind the steering wheels? They’re called paddle shifters and some of us would like to see how good they work on the cars you review. If we can’t get manual transmissions and are stuck with paddles at least use them so we can see if they’re any good. Please and thank you.
They should do a cost of ownership test......
Exactly. My wife's BMw was in the shop constantly
Most people lease BMWs anyways, minimal concern for reliability
I6 > V6
The first time I heard someone describe an Infiniti as "iconic" 😂
Vin Quach maybe since it’s the lineage of the g35🤷🏻♂️
A real head to head is the 2020 S4. And which is better current Idrive or Quattro. And the obligatory snow test; after all it is Colorado.
Both these cars hit 60 mph between 4.2-4.5 seconds. Q50rs is faster off the dig with real drivers.
Yes!
BMW is listed 4.1 and tested at 3.8
@@jacobsherwood1655 Go take a dragy, and test it yourself. I will applaud you if you hit 4.3.
Dima K why would you applaud me, road conditions would determine the time better than skill in that situation,
@@jacobsherwood1655 I am saying it's hard to do less than 4.5s on this car, given its not a manufacturers car, with weather adjusted magazine times.
I have a RS 400 and can’t wait for my lease to mature to get BMW M sport or M3
BMW hands down a better car
Would take the BMW over that Infiniti any day. The 400 red sports don’t drive like a 400 horsepower car should.
What do u mean by this?
Close contest! It would be great if Infiniti was more aggressive in researching and developing new vehicles. Like you said, with Nissan’s experience and ability to make high-performance cars, Infiniti has so much more potential that they could be bringing to the table in the sports car arena.
Mike Fyxdt next year it gets an update instead of a refresh
Dominique Sanchez - That’s good news! I look forward to seeing what they have planned.
@@dom718293 Its been 2 years still none...
4:50 The Q50 and GTR are actually related in terms of engine & powertrain. It's a GTR-derived VR30 motor (GTR's are VR38), and the AWD system in both cars is also very similar and shares the same components. The transmission in the Q50 is it's main weak point, which has been brought up as a pain point endless times over the years.
V Z False. The engines are different. The VQ37VHR is directly related to the GTR. The VR30 and VR38 are different lol.
It may not be the most advanced, but it's a very reliable 7 speed.
@@dom718293 did you just say that a VQ series motor is more closely related to a VR than another VR series motor? It takes a special kind of dumb to write something like that 🤣
Dominique Sanchez The Q50 doesn’t even have the VQ37, it has the VR30, which is closely related to the GTR’s VR38. Read what you posted before you try to school people.
NDLlama1 Q50 Redsport only came with the VR30 so mentioning the VQ37 is pointless...
You guys need to put the BMW up against the Lincoln MKz with the driver's package
I'm sure the BM would crush it but I'd be interested to see how Lincoln's 400 hp stacks up in the real world
Fordguy1997 I have it. It is pretty quick, BUT I doubt there’s any 400+hp sedan from BMW, Audi, Mercedes, and Infiniti that would lose to the MKZ. MKZ has to be one of the slowest 400hp sedans out there. The reason it’s slow is that even with AWD, it can’t ever launch without spinning the tires or bouncing the tires. It’s beyond embarrassing how poorly Lincoln thought this out. They just tossed in a turbo V6 and called it a day when in fact it needed tuning of several physical parts to be able to put the power down. 6 speed automatic in 2020 is beyond embarrassing. I still love the car though, the bmw 3 series and Q50 are quicker, but the Lincoln is so far ahead in features. Things like power closing trunk, full glass panoramic roof, 1200 watt sound system, 360 degree parking sensors(Infiniti and bmw only have front and rear, mkz can sense 360 degrees), and it’s far more comfortable.
That Infiniti sounded great. I wish they would put a 3.8l v8 in one and get rid of that damn D4rIVe bYe Wir3
What do you think about the problem they have the 340ia lot a problem or it’s very good
I know this is petty lol. I love that m340i. But for some reason the rpm gauge going counter clockwise would drive me nuts haha.
Yep a lot of people dislike the new BMW gauges. You're not alone!
I’m guessing that’s because depending on location. Most read from left-to-right so straying away from that makes you think longer about it. Most bmw drivers I know don’t mind it after a while, or they don’t care cause they’re not really car enthusiasts.
I own a 2020 Ⓜ️340i and I hate my gauges that was the only let down when it came to this car!
But I will admit after a while U get use to them and it doesn’t bother you as much because the performance is so awesome! 💙🤍🖤
I own a 2019 and 2020 Q50S. I love them. It comes down to personal preference. You guys made a great video and it was funny. Oops...actually I lease both!!!
Check out Boost in motion channel knows alot about the q50 3.0tt
lol was just about to type this.
Love his shit, hes broken too many axles but only because he pushing too much power but he he gives those V8 a run for there money
@@cormaro13 nah its because he has his car too low . Its pulling the axle out enough for it to break
Both car are amazing. Can’t go wrong with either.
BMW exterior styling is so tired. They all look the same
No they don't lol, they are the ones keeping their cars different from each other, do you even know anything about BMW's design?
Lease for sure. Cars drop too much in value to buy these days.
omg they didn't even know how to drive that bmw
I have right now is it Infiniti Q 50 so I’m thinking about to change it to 340 I BMW so tell me if I change it is better or same thing
If you wanna spend the money on your bmw breaking
340i is better in every single way better interior & exterior better tech & screen more options faster and probably as reliable
@@yeeyeeasshaircut5095 reliability on BMWs aren’t that bad. It’s a great car.
Not big fun of BMW, but I gonna say that the BMW have balls to make a good driver’s car! The trans and engine pairing phenomenal.
W W I will hold my opinion on “ Ultimate driving Machine” the current generation of M series just not that good. Even the Camaro ss will easily over take the M3 and M4.
Radical Car Review Motor trend pitted the camaro ss against the M4 on track and the M4 was faster...
I’m gonna say go ahead do the research again lol. The SS 1LE ties the M4 GTS on Mazda.
@@plus_eight8400 Was that a head to head track battle? Nope.
M50B25 Turbo please check the time lap record online.
just going to overlook those Yelp reviews for Snarfs?
If you're buying, get the Infiniti
If you're leasing, get the BMW
I'd hate to have that Beemer after 60k miles
Because you don't even own a car all you are talking is BS, just SHUT UP!!! The B engine on the BMW is the most reliable engine of all time it followed the proof of the N52.. Just SHUT Up, loser... Bloody poor idiot, talking nonsense..
Bmw are nightmares
@@duffydon1741 what are you 12 lol. Not gonna argue with a kid. Go mow the lawn kid
@@latino914 did you say something?? Go and work and make money and stop crying over nothing, your broke ass makes you see the negatives, if you had money you wouldn't be crying over noticing... Go and work, the truth hurts, right...
@@duffydon1741 why are you so angry?
Dana White has become a car reviewer
Dummies doing 0-60 with the a/c on
Thats real life for you and conservative.
pretty much every newer car on full throttle will automatically turn off the air conditioning for short amount of time
It barely makes any difference on modern cars
So stupid running times with 3 people. bmw 0 to 60 solo didn't start till car was moving
Wow, I love it. What about a race between the 3 German classics. The ML 320 vs Touareg vs Cayenne.
Not a very exciting video 😂 cayenne is WAY faster than Touareg. Touareg is WAY faster than ML
Awesome review, but I wanna point out that your test car doesn’t actually have the drive by wire system
BMW
Why on earth would u not put the q in sport plus the whole point is to compare the cars fairly
I love that BMW sound. The pops and crackles.
I didn't see any mention about the artificial exhaust sound from the speakers and impact on the interior sound. This can be turned off in the settings.
Bmw for me
It pumps artificial noise into the cabin....there's a setting to turn it off.
Really like that Q50S Redsport. If decided to pull the trigger on a performance sedan again it would be between this and the Lexus GS F, but pre-owned. I would want a more reliable luxo performance sedan that I wouldn't have to worry about down the road. Done with my Bimmers...great cars, but getting to be a pain as far as cost of ownership even for a DIY'er.
bro i had a q50 redsport and it was the worst car i owned the car was stock and i had to replace the transmission twice what a pos transmission how nissan put that transmission in a performance car? now i own an m340i super reliable grat mpg better tech and faster
@@b58forever Oh man. That sucks. Found a nice GS 350 recently with the luxury package. Has everything I need and want. Nice Bimmer. I'm at the point of my life where I just want cars that will go the distance with the least amount of maintenance other than preventative. Done buying every few years and throwing money away. Too bad you had problems with that Infiniti. I'm sticking with slightly older Toyota products from here on out. No turbos, no hybrid no direct injection unless it also has port. Enjoy the Bimmer as I know you will👍🏾
@@rossagge thanks 🙏🏻
@@rossagge i like the gs350 is a nice car
@@rossaggethe GSF is super sick but so damn expensive and hard to find! I was thinking about a m340i , you don’t think they’re reliable ?? They have the same engine as the new Toyota Supra I’ve heard good things about the engine, but not sure what to think
Great and unbiased comparison! I think 5.9s against 5.64s is very negligible, given that the Infiniti's 7 speed needs more time to adjust to an aggressive driving style, unlike the more aggressively tuned sport+ mode of the BMW's 8 speed. Switching to non runflat tires on the Infiniti would also shave a decibel from the cabin sound.
Dima K he didnt use sport+ on beemer, just sport
@@kinjat561 That's what he did on the Infiniti as well.
Dima K yes but thats not correct, each car has their own configuration, some are too soft to give better ride some are not.... example AMG comfort is still like sport+ on bmw, in order to exploit full potential of both cars, set them to their best configuration and then give it a go
@@kinjat561 I don't think Sport or Sport+ will change much. Even flooring it in Eco sometimes yields better results (ex. Mercedes E350).
Dima K its not all about kick down, traction control remains ON in sport, a human can always throttle better on the traction then computer
I'd take the red car exhaust
Don’t mean to be silly but what is your combined weight for the 3 of you? And 6000 ft elevation. No brake torquing for either with 0-60?
Dont here much on
Infiniti cars any more so nice to see.
Ok that BMW sounds amazing
Coming from a Honda guy
Always like to see a drag race. :( guessing track was closed and no backroad shenanagins allowed.
I have this car! It’s a 2 door red sport. I don’t consider a 4 door car a sports car. My car has all the extras you can get in this car. I like the interior of my car. I wouldn’t buy a BMW unless you want to put a lot of repair money into it. I’m not sure if you mention this the back tires are larger than the front. It’s a sports car! You’re suppose to feel the road. The car hug the road. I love to feel the road. I’ve had several different sports.
Thank you for the comparison. All the videos i found between the two are street races and modded/tuned versions
I thought the infinity steer by wire system was an option when is somebody going to drive one without it
I have one without it.
This red sport comes with it ... it's not an option on that trim
@@datkidelmo Yes it is an option to have regular steering. I have a 2019 Red Sport 400 with regular steering and I love it!
How is this even compared? That Infiniti has one of the UGLIEST interiors I’ve ever seen in my life. It looks like an Altima in there with that ugly little 3 inch screen between gauges. BMW has way more sophisticated lighting on the outside, and overall looks much better with way more modern features. You can keep your souped up Nisan. I’ll go German.
how do these guys have a million subscribers
Yall Probably depreciated that Infiniti a couple thousand dollars just driving it around
Sneakhyperion92 Yes. It depreciated real real fast.
They probably half sunk the value of that BMW.
Ya probably not as much as the BMW
Love how people shit on the Acura dual screen system or interior but the Infiniti is much worse.
Agreed 100%. Acura gets a lot of hate for minor bullshit all the time.
Q50 for the sound all day!!
Why do you test the interior sound right in front of the air vent blower?
Bmw gonna break in the first month 🥴😂
Do you have a BMW?
Typical hater. I've owed many reliable bmws
true never again
The 4 series has proven to be pretty reliable. Try coming up with another reason you dusty Infiniti driver
I'm a fan of your channel and subscribed to it years ago. I really enjoy your performance tests (both drag races and acceleration measurements). However, since I live in Asia, it would be much nicer to me and also European viewers of your channel to see measured data in KM/H too. I know you are an American channel and your metric system is miles per hour but I think performance measuring devices can record and show times in both km/h and mph units. So, you can announce 0-100 km/h time of each car you test whenever you measure its 0-60 mph time. This is just a suggestion and you may simply ignore it but it can make your channel appeal to viewers on a global scale. Thanks again for your efforts.
You realize that 0-60mph and 0-100km/h are the same thing right? When they announce the 0-60mph time it would be the same time to go 0-100km/h.
@@dtw1622 No, they are not the same thing. 0-60 mph = 0-96 km/h. There is a 4 km/h difference. This is very important especially when we measure the performance of normal passenger cars with weak engines. For example a 100 hp car will hit 60 mph in 11.0 seconds but reaches 100 km/h in 12.2 seconds!! 1.2 s is a considerable gap.
@@Messergebnis-liebhaber I stand corrected! You're right, that is a very big difference.
@@Messergebnis-liebhaber which is why some British car journalists uses 0-62 as opposed to 0-60
q50 is extremely old inside, not sure how anybody can like it at this price point
Artsiom Yabkevich used price point is the best bargain money can buy
It's not old, it's more authentic. Better than having an ugly red virtual display, and an ipad in the center stack.
The q50 is unacceptable! We expect full body massage and a gravity defying coffee maker in the center console! Infiniti should lower the price to $20k new for this old pile!
@@DMCarReviews What a delusional person you are... even Infiniti owners hate the old and out dated system. You are literally arguing against the entire market except Acura/Infiniti. They are the only upscale brands stuck with shitty systems... actually even Acura moved on with the new RDX. It'll only be a year or two before Infiniti rolls out new infotainment. You can keep burying your head in the sand and use your flip phone though.
@@dailyrant4068 You are delusional. I can care less about the screen, but actually the car being good, and not this piece of shit full of screens 😂
I agree about the Infiniti interior. They seem to share the same cheap looking plastics as in an Altima.
Ed Morales well the interior is the same as a 2014 first model Q50. Next year is the new chassis.
Infiniti interior is authentic. BMW looks like a ripped of Kia with tons of hard plastic.
Try them both with 100k miles
From the parts bin?
A simple oil change on time Inline 6 bmw are not having any issues reaching 100k.. I know quite a few who have 200k and motor still pulling very strong... the inline 6 turbo from bmw is one of the more reliable options as long as oil changes are done on time as its a performance engine if someone was not changing oil and abusing it of course more wear would incur
@@lolz616 So the reputation of a "endless money pit as they age", is undeserved?
@@buzzpedrotti5401 The never have been money pits they cost more for maintenance cause they are a luxury car.. if u cant afford the maintenance on a bmw u cant afford a luxury car to begin with is the reality.... when broke people buy high mileage luxury cars and have to do high mileage maintenance it creates that stereotype but they just cant afford the car is the reality.. yes it cost more for oil changes, filters, etc.... and yes when that 150k or whatever hits and u need a near wear and tear part like a radiator that goes out or something its guna cost more... but those parts fail eventually in ALL cars water pumps, radiators, usually dont last as long as the engine that was well taken care of
@@lolz616 Yet the same people buy Toyotas & Lexi in the same condition and they aren't faced with the continuous decision of fix again at exhorbitant prices or junk it because the designers were cavalier about design for maintenance, six sigma reliability and misapplied plastics & green materials in locations where they degrade prematurely.
How is it that a Lexus catalyst never needs to be replaced but BMW O2 sensors & catalysts are a timebombs? Why are LS430s timeless bank vaults and S500s and A8s expensive albatrosses? Perhaps these Japanese workmen value their work and customers more?
Is 'european luxury" a value or a clever marketing ruse like DeBeers diamonds to fleece the gullible but productive of their gold?
I looked at both of these cars and I much preferred the Infiniti interior, More sculpted and nicer looking. Bought the Infiniti because it was way better looking, much cheaper to buy and the long term cost of ownership is far far less scary. The BMer was ever so slightly quieter but you hear a lot of road and tire noise. the Infiniti is a smidge louder but its the exhaust note you hear not tire howl and that is so much better. I'm very happy with my Q50 Redsport. With a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S this thing handles great too. Without question the Q50 is the best value, so if you aint filthy rich its the way to go.
One has manual option other doesn’t 🤭
Nobody buys Infiniti because they want an Infiniti. People buy Infiniti to save money from getting the germans
Bull-ish. The second I am done working on my project car I'm going for a Q50 Red Sport. That 3 series doesn't look nearly as good to me.