What a fantastic video! You show literally every step, so we who haul standard step deck can dream of becoming a big boy someday!🤣🤣 Seriously though, awesome video, you are a gifted teacher!
I wonder what will happen when we don't have anymore operators like you sir , this generation just don't understand , neither do the regulators, keep grinding on 👍
All knows gotta learn right size of chains how many on the load how to chain on trailer lots of experience all kinds of experience how to put chains on loads
That is so damn cool! I found this afterseeing one of those stupid "reels" on Facebook where someone was complaining about receiving a flatbed after requesting an RGN, and I wanted to know what and RGN was. Well worth the half hour watch time, now I want one and all the cool stuff that would require having one... lol! Maybe I'll buy a wining lotto ticket...
Thank you for this video, I’m starting to learn about all this stuff about trucks and trailers, rgns ptos and all sorts of stuff, I am a rookie that is wanting to be full of knowledge, so thank you!!!!!
Thank you this is the first time I have ever used a manual so I had to watch you’re videoi watched another one where a guy did not even drop the trailer one the ground he dropped on a board and used the board like you did on the frame ! So it was confusing. Thank you for being so helpful
Really good video, thanks. What I really appreciate about it is the fact that you're doing it with well used, normal trailers that need some lube and cleaning. There's plenty of videos of this being done at the factories with brand new trailers, that make it look like it's easy all the time. It isn't... I have a 2013 Superior mechanical stretch I just bought 2 months ago from a dealer in Pittsburgh, PA. It was parked next to an XL Specialized when I went and looked at it, and they're IDENTICAL to each other. Like someone quit XL and started their own manufacturing facility and copied them inch for inch...They're not very common, and even the dealer didn't know much about this Superior trailer, we searched the internet and didn't find much on them. But, they're basically an XL. I keep my rails and pins and linkages "sloppy" with lube; I can't stress that enough. I clean the rails so it slides easily, and I put 90W gear oil on them when I do slide them and run them in and out a few times to help make it easier to stretch and close up. Can't emphasize enough about proper maintenance and cleaning and care so they work properly; pressure wash underneath them as much as possible too. I've also taken the time to mark off different stretched distances in increments on the main beam with yellow paint pen, so I know at a glance how long the deck is at each notch, and even marked where the pins are on the deck for easy reference while still on my feet. So the issue I run into with mine is, when loaded and reattaching again, I have a hard time with getting the neck hooked back to the deck due to the height difference. I've been in bad conditions such as snow/ice recently, and the trailer would settle a couple inches and the truck's air suspension doesn't go low enough to get the plates back lined up to the deck. I've been around a long time too, so I planned ahead the first time I used this trailer and I carry two 12 ton bottle jacks and had to jack the deck up and block it up about 6-8" off the ground with 55k lbs ON the deck, so I could slide back under the neck without abusing the truck/driveline/rears. I also have a tough time with 55k lbs on, when it's time to unhook from the neck again to unload. The 5th wheel doesn't like it at all with all that weight on, and I've literally had to block the trailer up loaded, and dump the air bags just to get broke away from the 5th wheel. Now, the trailer is 8" off the ground, and I end up having to build more bridging and ramps to unload. I was moving railcars last week, so that scenario ended up more of a project because now I had to compensate for the angle of the ramp I made for the railcar wheels, and block a lot more, etc. The ULTIMATE situation is to have the deck on the ground, but I have to develop a way to lift it loaded to get hooked back up without so much stress on the tractor trying to slam back under 55k lbs of load PLUS the weight of the trailer. I am currently investigating a lifting system to have for the next time I use this trailer. I'm looking at air mats for one system, flat mats that when placed underneath the trailer ramps that can be inflated and lift to help with unhooking/rehooking, or a hydraulic toe jack for each side that I can use to raise and level side to side. I just can't seem to be able to get off the 5th wheel or back onto it when loaded heavy, without having to block the trailer higher than I want to, so I need to come up with a way to lift as needed. It's not for a rookie; you have to have your wits about you with these trailers. Again, thanks for the "real world" tutorial videos. Great stuff, as I always say..."there's NO substitute for EXPERIENCE"...
@@ironmountainironequipment6439 thank you for the kind words on the video. I will pass them on to Bill. If you have a machine that youre loading such as a dozer you can run it all the way to the rear if the trailer before you try to re hook the neck. Then once the trailer is rehooked and on your fifth wheel you can back the machine forward to properly distribute your weight.
@@kylefitzy I fully understand that, but when you have a fixed piece of equipment such as a 55k lb railcar on it, there's no changing the weight distribution. It's where it is for the ride. There's really no good solution with a mechanical detachable neck, other than having a couple of 20 ton jacks to help lift enough to take the stress off the tractor to rehook. I got 2 new ones that are in a new toolbox that I mounted under the neck for quick access. Other than that, a hydraulic neck is the answer, just not feasible with the cost of one currently. I've got it figured out pretty well now though, since working with it several times. It's a thought process and having the right tools is important.
Not a flat bedder or heavy hauler but these videos are very helpful and educational to know. So thank you for taking time out of your day to educate drivers because that's something you don't have to do. Not everyone is willing to share tips and pointers.
Great instructonial video !! I am heading to pick up a trailer from Ritchie Bros. for a friend of my to move his motorcoach's to his new shop... Thanks for the Vid..
Are you sliding the 5th wheel because of its placement on a KW or...? I have done RGN with a cascadia a ton of times and never slide the 5th wheel. Video is well put together.
I’m curious as to why these mechanical trailers even exist. Labor is the greatest expense of most companies, and these seem pretty labor-intensive. Fascinating even so.
Our guys and gals work with just about every open deck trailer out there so they need to be ready to handle them all, whether they prefer them or not. That's why they are some of the best.
The Fontaine is a better trailer. They did a great job designing them. Bigger hole for the airlines and the best thing is when you pull the rod to release the center pin, you turn it like you did. When you get out, after pulling ahead, step on it and it lets the pin release, but it hits a plunger that pops out when you pull forward. When you back up to reconnect, the plunger gets pushed back and the pin goes through the hole by itself. You can hear and see it from the cab, so you know your connected. Other trailers might have it, been a while. The XL Specialized is a nice trailer.
We just bought a 2004 Fontaine Renegade XLT extendable double drop trailer.. We unlocked the pin by switch(air) but when we move trucker the trailer also move and both pin was jumped to lock positions Therefore could not be extending. Someone Please kind help to teach how make trailer barker are on and pin was released. Then trailer will not move with trucker, and then we could extend the trailer.
We have some T 880 KWs at work. Why they have 18" of frame behind the shock and airbag I don't know. I pull containers I can't go forward of the center of tandem need to "Schneider Bob" the frame. I call it that cause that's what Schneider National did to their trucks that haul their containers
Hydraulic is definitely better, however not everyone can justify the cost difference and don't use it enough to keep everything in good working condition... mechanical always works properly with a good operator....
As someone who runs reefers exclusively, stretching the XL is similar to how we shift the bogies to balance the axle loads. However, I have to ask. When it's stretched, and you're loading from the nose of the deck, how do you bridge the big open gap between the main deck and the short tail deck?
What a fantastic video! You show literally every step, so we who haul standard step deck can dream of becoming a big boy someday!🤣🤣 Seriously though, awesome video, you are a gifted teacher!
Thanks, Bill is a legend!
Wow. This fella covered everything
Excellent teacher.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge my friend.
MAN... this is a LOT of work!! You'd better be paid well for this.
Crazy what people call a lot of work these days. Anything less and you'd be standing still.
Sir you have literally changed my life
Definitely 👍 one of the best videos 📹 on stretching trailers, top notch, awesome.
I think you make a great trainer keep 💪 doing these training videos
You comp.. you work for must be blessed to have drivers/instructors like you work for them. You got all my thumbs-up
That’s being the best at what you love doing
Great video! But I will take a hydraulic neck any day! Kudos to you guys that play with that mechanical stuff.
Hydraulic neck is great, until the pony motor dies, or you blow a hose out in the middle of Bum Phuck Egypt.
I had a lot of bad experience with a pony motor rgn . A lot of times it wouldn’t start with full tank . It has pros anc cons .
Not I my wet line are run off the the pto pump push the clutch flip a switch and that’s it
It's good to learn it all
I'd like to see a video on hydraulic style
Super good instructions. I enjoyed every second of the video. Thank you for putting all the experience and time to create it!
I wonder what will happen when we don't have anymore operators like you sir , this generation just don't understand , neither do the regulators, keep grinding on 👍
All knows gotta learn right size of chains how many on the load how to chain on trailer lots of experience all kinds of experience how to put chains on loads
That is so damn cool! I found this afterseeing one of those stupid "reels" on Facebook where someone was complaining about receiving a flatbed after requesting an RGN, and I wanted to know what and RGN was. Well worth the half hour watch time, now I want one and all the cool stuff that would require having one... lol! Maybe I'll buy a wining lotto ticket...
The best video on youtube, great detail, thank you.
Thank you for this video, I’m starting to learn about all this stuff about trucks and trailers, rgns ptos and all sorts of stuff, I am a rookie that is wanting to be full of knowledge, so thank you!!!!!
This is an excellent video! I found it extremely helpful, as it is packed with lots of useful information. Thank you for doing this!
Thank you this is the first time I have ever used a manual so I had to watch you’re videoi watched another one where a guy did not even drop the trailer one the ground he dropped on a board and used the board like you did on the frame ! So it was confusing.
Thank you for being so helpful
You are welcome!
Hell of a teacher. Hell of a cameraman
It’s good to know how they all work and understand the sequence of hook up and dropping RGN trailers
Really good video, thanks. What I really appreciate about it is the fact that you're doing it with well used, normal trailers that need some lube and cleaning. There's plenty of videos of this being done at the factories with brand new trailers, that make it look like it's easy all the time. It isn't...
I have a 2013 Superior mechanical stretch I just bought 2 months ago from a dealer in Pittsburgh, PA. It was parked next to an XL Specialized when I went and looked at it, and they're IDENTICAL to each other. Like someone quit XL and started their own manufacturing facility and copied them inch for inch...They're not very common, and even the dealer didn't know much about this Superior trailer, we searched the internet and didn't find much on them. But, they're basically an XL. I keep my rails and pins and linkages "sloppy" with lube; I can't stress that enough. I clean the rails so it slides easily, and I put 90W gear oil on them when I do slide them and run them in and out a few times to help make it easier to stretch and close up. Can't emphasize enough about proper maintenance and cleaning and care so they work properly; pressure wash underneath them as much as possible too.
I've also taken the time to mark off different stretched distances in increments on the main beam with yellow paint pen, so I know at a glance how long the deck is at each notch, and even marked where the pins are on the deck for easy reference while still on my feet.
So the issue I run into with mine is, when loaded and reattaching again, I have a hard time with getting the neck hooked back to the deck due to the height difference. I've been in bad conditions such as snow/ice recently, and the trailer would settle a couple inches and the truck's air suspension doesn't go low enough to get the plates back lined up to the deck. I've been around a long time too, so I planned ahead the first time I used this trailer and I carry two 12 ton bottle jacks and had to jack the deck up and block it up about 6-8" off the ground with 55k lbs ON the deck, so I could slide back under the neck without abusing the truck/driveline/rears. I also have a tough time with 55k lbs on, when it's time to unhook from the neck again to unload. The 5th wheel doesn't like it at all with all that weight on, and I've literally had to block the trailer up loaded, and dump the air bags just to get broke away from the 5th wheel. Now, the trailer is 8" off the ground, and I end up having to build more bridging and ramps to unload. I was moving railcars last week, so that scenario ended up more of a project because now I had to compensate for the angle of the ramp I made for the railcar wheels, and block a lot more, etc. The ULTIMATE situation is to have the deck on the ground, but I have to develop a way to lift it loaded to get hooked back up without so much stress on the tractor trying to slam back under 55k lbs of load PLUS the weight of the trailer.
I am currently investigating a lifting system to have for the next time I use this trailer. I'm looking at air mats for one system, flat mats that when placed underneath the trailer ramps that can be inflated and lift to help with unhooking/rehooking, or a hydraulic toe jack for each side that I can use to raise and level side to side. I just can't seem to be able to get off the 5th wheel or back onto it when loaded heavy, without having to block the trailer higher than I want to, so I need to come up with a way to lift as needed.
It's not for a rookie; you have to have your wits about you with these trailers.
Again, thanks for the "real world" tutorial videos. Great stuff, as I always say..."there's NO substitute for EXPERIENCE"...
Would a hydraulic detach neck eliminate that issue?
@@lb9ftw44 Absolutely would. Problem is the cost... they're not cheap.
@@ironmountainironequipment6439 thank you for the kind words on the video. I will pass them on to Bill.
If you have a machine that youre loading such as a dozer you can run it all the way to the rear if the trailer before you try to re hook the neck. Then once the trailer is rehooked and on your fifth wheel you can back the machine forward to properly distribute your weight.
@@kylefitzy I fully understand that, but when you have a fixed piece of equipment such as a 55k lb railcar on it, there's no changing the weight distribution. It's where it is for the ride.
There's really no good solution with a mechanical detachable neck, other than having a couple of 20 ton jacks to help lift enough to take the stress off the tractor to rehook. I got 2 new ones that are in a new toolbox that I mounted under the neck for quick access. Other than that, a hydraulic neck is the answer, just not feasible with the cost of one currently.
I've got it figured out pretty well now though, since working with it several times. It's a thought process and having the right tools is important.
Not a flat bedder or heavy hauler but these videos are very helpful and educational to know. So thank you for taking time out of your day to educate drivers because that's something you don't have to do. Not everyone is willing to share tips and pointers.
Outstanding training video! Best one I’ve seen on TH-cam… Thank you,
Thank you Sir for comprehensive information. It was very helpfull.
Gracias Genioooooo...
Hi - very well explained - good job!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The best video about that!
Ty sir
About to my first heavy haul load this helped me out a lot thanks 🙏🏼
Great to hear!
Thank you for the great video
Excellent step by step safe instructions!!! Appreciate you driver!!!
Thank you for doing this video.
Great video super informative very detailed thank you so very much
Very informative..Thanks.
Thank you so much for your help 🙏🙏 god bless you sir
Muchas gracias por tu video también los latinos lo miramos me servirá muchísimo para mi trabajo que empiezo moviendo maquinas Dios te bendiga gracias
Great instructonial video !! I am heading to pick up a trailer from Ritchie Bros. for a friend of my to move his motorcoach's to his new shop... Thanks for the Vid..
Great video. Thank you
Great job, Bill. Informative, safe, efficient, real world view.
Thx for the video.
GREAT VIDEO, EXCELLENT EXPLANATION. THANKS.
Really want to get RGN training
Me too! I'm kind of bores of Power Only
Thanks for a good class 1:17
Nicely done
Thank you 😊
Hey he using free all he knows what he’s talking about I am listening to him !
Very informative video
You are 100 years behind Europa trucking industry :D
Wooden ships, iron men.
Great teacher good video
Thanks can’t wait for mine 🎉
Awesome information 👏 👌🏻 thanks a lot
Vary informative thanks
Great information... Thanks!
Good job sir
100% Great Vid
Good job
Thanks
Ramps on the truck frame ease the transition no?
9:17
Great video. New subscriber 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Nice! I'd like to see you load equipment & secure it. Great Video. I'm really interested in getting into heavy hauling.
What about doing this in the DOWN-POURING RAIN or in the Winter with the wild weather??
Are you sliding the 5th wheel because of its placement on a KW or...? I have done RGN with a cascadia a ton of times and never slide the 5th wheel. Video is well put together.
I’m curious as to why these mechanical trailers even exist. Labor is the greatest expense of most companies, and these seem pretty labor-intensive. Fascinating even so.
Our guys and gals work with just about every open deck trailer out there so they need to be ready to handle them all, whether they prefer them or not. That's why they are some of the best.
Now, please teach us all how to proceed over a HUMPED RAILROAD TRACK!! 8-)
The Fontaine is a better trailer. They did a great job designing them. Bigger hole for the airlines and the best thing is when you pull the rod to release the center pin, you turn it like you did. When you get out, after pulling ahead, step on it and it lets the pin release, but it hits a plunger that pops out when you pull forward. When you back up to reconnect, the plunger gets pushed back and the pin goes through the hole by itself. You can hear and see it from the cab, so you know your connected. Other trailers might have it, been a while. The XL Specialized is a nice trailer.
Excellent video! Do you know where can I go to get trained in this type of equipment?? Thanks!
Billy your bad-ass!
What’s the main deck height of the rgn?
I want to work with RGN trailer...
Can you stretch the trailer while loaded? Or do you need to stretch prior to loading?
This that money fr
Very detailed video, Thank you🫡
Can you use a 40 ton trailer tri axle with these trucks. Or would i need a truck with 4 axle?
What happens if someone unlocks that pin by mistake or is a bad person
Máster show
Congratulations, extremely didactic
Good information
What you should do to blow the dirt/dust of the frame is get yourself an air hose that attaches to your truck and blow it off quickly!!
Nicely explained/demo. 👍
Thank you!
be a good thing to put the roller ramps on the tractor, driver keeps calling that tractor a T 880 though it is a T 680
Those little tabs that go in the holes prevent the neck from moving, when you pull out.
Big time taked to disconnect the gooseneck
My truck has sliding 5th wheel & Rayco suspension just spring ride will that work?
We just bought a 2004 Fontaine Renegade XLT extendable double drop trailer..
We unlocked the pin by switch(air) but when we move trucker the trailer also move and both pin was jumped to lock positions
Therefore could not be extending.
Someone Please kind help to teach how make trailer barker are on and pin was released. Then trailer will not move with trucker, and then we could extend the trailer.
Informative! ❤️❤️
We have some T 880 KWs at work.
Why they have 18" of frame behind the shock and airbag I don't know. I pull containers I can't go forward of the center of tandem need to "Schneider Bob" the frame. I call it that cause that's what Schneider National did to their trucks that haul their containers
The few the proud the flatbedders 🤣
I wouldn't be pissing around with that trailer, definitely get a new trailer that's far more user friendly...... 🍻🍻 very informative though, thanks.
I’ve never seen a locking pin on a collar before.
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Hi
Hydraulic is definitely better, however not everyone can justify the cost difference and don't use it enough to keep everything in good working condition... mechanical always works properly with a good operator....
Hey Mr fingers!!😂
As someone who runs reefers exclusively, stretching the XL is similar to how we shift the bogies to balance the axle loads.
However, I have to ask. When it's stretched, and you're loading from the nose of the deck, how do you bridge the big open gap between the main deck and the short tail deck?
Only on hard payvents
Where the neck sits... Should that be rusting?
Grease it ?
Get it repainted?
Or
13:40. Great video but too much of work and time just to detached a trailer. Not such good design.
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