This is why support groups are so so precious. There's nothing more healing than having someone who really knows what you're experiencing validate you.
Eh I'm 50/50 on this. I agree they're helpful while you're going through it. But once you're on the other side being around people still going through it can impede recovery. Like the saying you are who you surround yourself with
Mental health issues are so important to discuss and need to be normalized. Thanks to these brave people for sharing. Its given me some strength to not give up on my own mental struggles.
Amen friend and we are very wornable ,true Sin. I wase same even worse I wase torcerd (antel one voice inditificate self : unclean spirits-demon) I wase instructed to call on Creator on uneverse-God and gospel.to respond to him true faith , confetion and trust ,and whit autorety on Holly Spirit after cleaning whith his blood true faith I wase healed and start attending protestant church assembling of God or Evangelical God bless you And I hope samebody gone tell on this people good news Gospels... I sty avafrm and totally Heald..Mal glory to Go th-cam.com/video/5kclbCp7T-o/w-d-xo.html
I have schizophrenia and even though I'm doing better now, watching this video and seeing a support group full of people who I can relate with was seriously healing for me to see and watch
Although at a much lesser scale, the best thing that helped me with my mental health was moving in with my friends. If you still haven't, find people that can relate to you it's the most overlooked piece of advice in my oppinion and this video only reaffirms that suspicion.
@@sedanwheel4146 Hey man thank you for reaching out to me. I actually screenshotted what you wrote on my phone so that I could look at it again for a reminder later. But yeah man I 100% agree, social support and connections are vital for anybody let alone for somebody who has a mental illness or disorder. Luckily enough my best friend is a man I met in the psyche Ward and who also had psychosis but thankfully recovered and is doing good again nowadays. Him being in my life and having the ability to relate does wonders for my mental health along with simply having positive supports and friendships/family in general. I'm definitely trying to find more social connections in spite of the pandemic making this difficult via lockdown and whatnot but having even a couple quality friends does wonders even still. I hope you are doing good and I'm happy for you to have found such a positive group of people who you live with. You seem like a good hearted and kind person and I wish you the best my friend. God bless and know there is always hope, there is almost always some reason to keep fighting and to hold on!
Thank you for sharing this. These folks are brave for sharing their stories and we all need to recognize that everyone is going through something and that we can’t make assumptions about people. Cheers.
I hear voices and it took me a while to get back to myself and gain a bit of confidence, which was only possible because of this group. You need a lot of courage. Although my childhood trauma was less severe than some of the people in this doc, but maybe that is why my voices are not always mean. That said more than 80% (it is assumed by scientists to be closer to 90%) of all people in the mental health system are victims of some sort of childhood abuse or adversity. This is one of the biggest cover ups. I feel for the trumpeter. When I was on high doses of antipsychotics, I could not play music, even though I am a trained musician. Music did not make sense to me. I hope he is better soon. I watched this video a while back, but I sometimes think of the people here and I wish them well. 🙏❤
I hear voices in my head and it’s because of trauma but I always thought it was psychosis or schizophrenia i actually even got diagnosed with an antipsychotic by a psych who didn’t take the time to understand
Mental Health is absolutely important, especially as you get older. I learned that the more intelligent one is, the more understanding one is to those that are struggling to survive. And the more difficult it is to manage your own sanity.
God I wish America looked at mental health more like this and had more resources where we can support one another, instead of shoving a bunch of pills down our throats without even knowing what’s really going on…this is like AA but for people with schizophrenia! I love it 🥰
Mental health groups were available but they were only for women and I was not allowed to participate. The answer to my problem before someone realized I was schizophrenic was that "I worked with too many men"... so yea, there need to be better resources 😕
Nearly every Community Mental Health Center focuses intensely on group discussion, peer-to-peer mentoring and therapy specific to their symptoms. The difficult task is consistency in ongoing treatment which can stem from the individual, care setting or a single trigger event
Thank you VICE for showcasing these people's stories - as someone who grew up with family afflicted with these mental health issues, it was refreshing to see a new perspective to treatment. Sending lots of love and positive energy to those who experience these hardships each and every day!
I was going through the same exact thing and what I can honestly say helped me get over it was calling on the name of Jesus! I used to hear voices and feel things. I listened to the voice in my head and it had me run out of my house in my underwear to a hospital and I was brought into a psych ward. Never had any sort of mental health issue before then. The power of prayer is real, Jesus is real, and I honestly think most of these voices are demonic especially when it comes to hurting yourselves. What I'm trying to say my friends is to trust in Him and I promise, you have His word not mine, that everything will be made better. Much love to everyone here in the comments!
It's heartwarming to see people overcome decades old Trauma, even more so when the Trauma talks back to you in the voices of the abusers. Much love to everyone struggeling. You're extremely strong personalities and whatever you're going through I have not a doubt in mind that you'll get trough it to life a happy and peaceful life.
Locked up for 26 years for jumping out a window that is tragic.. just goes to show the stigma around mental health is still rampant. I’m glad these people have a group to talk.
@@liahlove8297 Not all of them are bullies, people in africa hear positive voices which dont tell them to commit crimes or to suicide. From what i understand people in africa think that schizophrenics are connected to god and there for respected instead of thrown in the gutter like the rest of the world does.
It’s vital that these people have a place to go and get some help and feel they aren’t alone with their struggles and to feel understood by those around them. There’s a lady in my local market who speaks to herself all day long and she always scared me, I hope she can get some help and find some semblance of peace... bless these people, power to you.
I love when vice does French stuff. Its my mother tongue and I notice all the small mis translations and understand the piece and enjoy the piece way more or less
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
It is. I'm hearing voices since 12 years now, I got them from a withdrawal from the neuroleptic medication "clozapine". This med almost killed me, never take any psych meds if you want to live ! I never heard voices in my life before this withdrawal. The only thing I found so far that helped me is psilocybin mushrooms and cannabis.
@F G I took clozapine for 4 years, 100mg / day. I didn't know you have to taper off this med very slowly and did a cold turkey. This almost killed me, I couldn't sleep for several weeks, had severe cramps, shivering and panic attacks all day etc. etc. After this there sudenly were people in my room talking to me, it's called hypersensitive psychosis I think. I only recently found out that the voices are not real. I don't know how I survived until now to be honest. I am self medicating with cannabis and low doses of psilocybin now which helps me tolerate the voices much better.
@Aria Casteal Ill agree with moonglow..psychiatric medication is the 1st and quickly handed out meducine for help..they kill more people than they help..moon and I are speaking from a 1st person narrative were you are speaking , and assuming , on the behalf of a partner..In the end..vitamin D did more for my depression than literally dizens of so called anti depressants..Diet, sun, exercise..All options people can try 1st before going to a clueless dr.interested in pushing the latest drug to change your brain chemistry..Pharmaceuticals are no good and are a EXTREME LAST RESORT, Not 1st like its done now and the last 40 yrs
@Aria Casteal No it's dangerous advice to tell people to take these deadly drugs, please don't do that. Psych meds are deadly poisons, never take these if you want to live. Your partner should taper off the antidepressants immediately, but slowly this is very important. Please take the advice from a survivor, NEVER take neurolpetics, antidepressants or tranquilizers, so many people have died from these medications already. Sorry but please educate yourself before advising anyone to take these deadly meds, thank you.
sometimes i think it wouldnt be bad to have some kind of voice with good intentions in my head, giving me advices etc. but of course if they turn mad on you its not pleasurable
By listening to these patients experiences it's clear to me that it's rooted in some deep trauma that they could not solve it on their own but instead suppressed it deep down in their "psyche". Interesting observations. They are still people no matter what, however their labels they give them is horrible!. I personally don't its a disease but rather trauma of some kind. We don't know what could trigger us to end up like these people. We need to show compassion for these people.
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
These are people who have not been given a voice, so squashed so damaged so mistreated - their voices are speaking but not being heard, then they are being squashed and damaged and mistreated by the psychiatric system. Damaged people are being damaged. It’s so wonderful to see these people summon the strength to have their own voice and to speak their own words to the world and be heard and understood .
Une magnifique initiative!!! Plein d'encouragements a tout les membres de ce groupe. Ce que vous avez réussi a construire ensemble est tout simplement remarquable. Un exemple pour tous, qui montre qu'avec de l'amour et de la compassion, on peut trouver solution a tout les problèmes. Que DIEU vous bénisse !
Thank you for bringing greater awareness to these issues. Voice hearing has been part of the human experience throughout history. For those interested in learning more about the origin of voice hearing, be sure to check out Julian Jaynes's bicameral mind theory.
I knew a guy who was schizophrenic. He was on medicated and didn't hear voices anymore but basically he could never have a normal relationship because any time he had a crush on a woman he would hear this voice of a supposed alien woman from another galaxy telling him to wait for her and not to cheat on her. Even when he was medicated and not hearing the voice he still believed that she was real so he was unable to have a relationship. How sad.
I don't think I'm schizophrenic, but sometimes I feel like I have different voices. Maybe, it's just different facets of my personality. When I don't like what one is saying, I think no one asked you a goddamn thing. It's helped me get better about not letting myself feel bad.
The voices will go away eventually. It takes time. Please don't take psych meds as these poisons will make things much worse and kill you sooner or later.
You have an energy attachment . If you feel your soul is depleted it’s because can entity is feeding off of you. You need to reclaimed your mind, body, and soul. Demand it to leave and if it doesn’t serve me for my highest good I commanded you to leave my space! I have authority over my mind and body! Visualize a violet flame cosmic energy bubble surrounding your body as protection call in Archangel Michael for assistance they fear him so much!
An important thing about hearing voices is that many people only hear voices about once or twice in their lives. In my experience it can go a long time between episodes but it doesn’t mean you’re “less sick”.
I live in France, I hear voices, and I take a daily dose of abilify. When I got out of the hospital after a month, which by the way was the worst of my entire life, they just sent me home and that was it. Without this med though, I would have likely killed myself as the voices grew more and more dominant and there was nothing I could do to stop them. I tried stopping the med for a few months and immediately went back to a clinic, much better than the hospital though. I was of course diagnosed with schizophrenia. Edit: As for me, the voices either told me to kill myself, described everything I did, or insulted me. With the med, I hear them much less but they're still here a bit, I don't think anything can completely remove them.
Mindful practices - Meditation will be super helpful - to observe the voices - and not engage or identity - using the breath as an anchor to return to when you feel lost within them
I'm a mindfulness practitioner and teacher myself but I would caution against using mindfulness as a tool in this instance. It can potentially make voices worse. I would instead recommend Internal Family Systems Therapy or Focusing Oriented Therapy with someone who is trauma trained. Perhaps if that goes well then mindfulness afterwards.
I've noticed that people who suffer from these types of illness are often very artistic and incredibly smart. The mind can be terrible at times, just imagine what they could be without the distractions.
If this was in English I could understand and keep up with what was being said. I cannot read the subtitles fast enough. Idk if loneliness as a child who had no friends is trauma. The voices i have are anime, movie, video game, book cover etc anything that has a picture I think the character can see hear and interact with me. 🤷♀️ but I control them sorta they are like connected to my back by huge chains and in indestructible bubbles. Or they are all in a community room and able to see through my eyes. 🤷♀️ they dont go away even though I have some friends now.
I feel like this could be compared to some obsessive behaviours/thoughts that keep coming back and stronger. For a while I was deep in a state like that, taking control is what matters - first they'll go away only for an hour, but the second time they'll leave for two and so on. If you keep being mentally strong, you can get rid of this in a month, even though it might be hard when you are used to feeling powerless and giving up right away for years. Think of a new you and push on to get there
For those who actually Suffer from Schizophrenia and Paranoia, the best advice I can possibly give is to speak about what is causing this issue(s) and not close them off from others around you, especially those who care for your wellbeing, it can be a friend, family member, lover, or someone in your community that takes the time to listen to your endeavors and your story, and be able to effectively help. For those who have a key awareness, I agree with the concept of Support groups and seeking help from others who have pushed passed the threshold of addiction but, there are some symptoms that can be simulated to an individual(s) that doesn't actually have signs of mental illness like Schizophrenia or Paranoia. In my personal research and experiences in the matter I find being able to block out personal harassment and "cope" (finding a way(s) to enforce mental fortitude on your own mind from negative comments and accusations) with whatever that seems to be causing the most issues in your life are most effective on helping yourself and being able to be a guide or guidance for those who do not yet understand some of their circumstances.
I think that most people would assume that it's their own. I think that's part of what the support group is about - identifying that it may not always be your OWN voice talking to you...
@@billybob6469 ive heard of people hearing demonic or even angelic like voices. Even loved ones like parents or grandparents and voices of the people that caused trauma at some point. It can be anything
Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy and also Focusing are both really good approaches for working with inner voices. As a counsellor I've seen them both work well (similar approaches).
Yes, I think it is society that has a far distance to go in understanding these voices and humanity in general. My son hears voices, and now after a long struggle with trying to make him conform to ‘us’, we are now listening to him instead. His ‘voices’ are spot on, and I dare say my son is my greatest teacher in life for providing a doorway into what is more real than this inane existence we often find ourselves in! I am now so thankful he resisted us at all costs and escaped medications etc - even though I tried hard for years to get him to go the pharmaceutical and psychiatric path.
@@redinstrumental7535 Feb 2017 I was driving home late one night and was fidgeting with my radio when I heard in my head ACCIDENT ACCIDENT - I looked up at the road and I was reaching an intersection and there was a car stopped in my entire lane. I knew I was gonna T bone this guy and I slammed on my breaks and turned my wheel over to the side and our tires maybe touched! That was my proof that we have spirit guides with us 24-7-
Wish TH-cam or Vice would have someone translate in English out loud so my son can hear it. He never wants counseling. So I can sneak it on him that there's people like him with the same problems
as doctor is hard to understand mental illnesses. especially becasue human brain is a unique organ in the animal kingdom we don't know its inner workings and many of its functions are still a complete mistery. you can simulate a tissue damage that damage motor or sensorial control in an animal model, but no animal model can simulate the complexety of human emotions interactions and social construct. aòsp for obvious reasons we cannot fully investigate a living brain like we would for other organs we have tools but they are extremely crude if confronted with the miracles of other branches of medicine like surgery or farmacology that have constant evolution i will remember forever what an old doctor told me during my trainee days in a psychiatric ward speaking about the difficulties of treating mental illnesses "we are like a monkey trying to repair a spaceship computer fallen from orbit with a stick and a rock" it is sad and i can relate to that sensation of impotence because mental illnesses are still one of the area where even the best doctor can fail to treat his patient even with the best knowledge avaible also doctors are still human, and while i don't condone or justify it, i have to recognize that even in our profession there is still much stigma about mental illness and by extension patients. we don't propose lobotomy or electric shock anymore but there is still a lot of work to do about human treatment of psychiatric patients
I think that conventional medicine cannot treat these conditions. There is no question. It absolutely cannot. There is no branch of conventional medicine which exists today which can effectively treat them. The idea that it can is a scam. It has never really been the case that people with mental illnesses needed to be locked up and treated with humiliating, horrible drugs. This idea was invented by the pharmaceutical industry through manufactured consent. Before pharmacology there was the church/religion and the church enjoyed its oppression of mentally ill people too, and it had an entirely different ethos to pharmacology, but it still benefits itself by creating prejudice of a vulnerable group. Here you can see a steady evolution in thought. How instituted spiritual healing went from archaic religious dogma to fake science and here you might realise that the science of psychiatry really is fake. People don't learn respect anymore. You talk about modern medicine being a miracle, but the real miracle in the case of mental illness is allowing the soul on its journey and showing love and compassion towards someone who experienced trauma. Yes, all mental illness almost without exception is completely based in trauma and this fact is covered up by psychiatry. If you do some genuine research you will realise this is true and proven. One of the major problems with the medical profession is that it is internally oppressive and hierarchical. There is so much pressure on doctors to perform so called miracles that they become so stressed that they cannot relate to their patients on a compassionate/human level anymore. Is it any wonder that doctors who basically flunked medical school end up in psychiatry wherein they are trained to essentially abuse people in "medically humane ways"? And everyone who works in a hospital setting, nurses included, are subject to this social pressure. Yet, modern medicine gets away with psychiatry when psychiatry itself is the epitome of this oppression. Not a single ounce of this fuss and concern about doing your job right is given to people with mental illnesses, on the receiving end of systematic abuse. But despite any number of people actually waking up to this fact, it just remains so completely convenient for the economic society to label people, lock them up and discard them, almost as if it is a novel form of rehabilitation. People with mental illnesses are treated as if they are a problem, rather than enabled to find their own solutions. There is a major difference between care and cared about. Until people realise what is really going on and that professionals need to become humiliated and embarrassed about the frankly disgusting ways that psychiatry chooses to implement its solution, it looks like this plan is here to stay!! I don't know if you wanted my opinion, so, sorry for posting anyway.
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
Spirits dwell within you. You can’t change that. You are a multidimensional being having a human experience. Hearing voices is not a bad thing is a psychic ability called clairaudient. We have spirit guides that serve your highest goods and want you to stay on track of your soul’s blueprint. The spirits that do not serve your highest good may have came from other past life and attached themselves on your etheric body instead of going to the light when they died and followed you on your current lifetime. Also they may have attached themselves to you when you felt very low point on this current lifetime when your vibration was low. It’s always spiritual. Medicine will keep the spirits from you hearing them speak but that doesn’t change them from leaving your etheric body and following you to your next incarnation. I suggest you see a regression hypnosis therapist so they can solve the problem and have the spirit leave your body from their own will and go to the light!
The world is TWISTED up.....It should be about helping one another....But the government makes it all about the $$$$$$$ and turns us against eachother.. SAD
They know everything about your life because they essentially are you. So threats and judgements are extremely personal and cruel, and predictions of the future are made in extreme detail and fear
@@olivermexas1203 take the man in the video who almost killed his husband as an example even though he knows his voice is in his head and his threats are ridiculous, why believe them? I get how it can drive someone to suicide as theyre already in a bad mental state but how could it drive him to kill someone who brings him happiness? I know u can't exactly answer for him but if you do have some sort of insight to help me understand it would be very helpful
@@SirPickless Just the same as an abused woman or individual begins to believe what they are being told by their abuser. It's constant, relentless, never ceasing messages that make you doubt what you thought were truths about yourself. The doubt feeds the relentless messages being heard and the circle continues. Many hearing voices so loudly they can't sleep...lack of sleep is extremely detrimental to our brains and bodies and affects our perceptions greatly. Not to mention the paranoia and hallucinations of different kinds that show "proof" or validate the messages being heard. Put that all together for someone whose enduring this alone for YEARS. That's how, unfortunately ☹️
While the perspectives of these people are precious, and this group seems to generate positive outcomes, the stance of this documentary on antipsychotic medication is a little concerning.
In what way is it “concerning” - they are all understanding themselves better, feeling more confident, feeling more understood and empowered. To these people at this time it is not about risk aversion, Jesus one guy was locked up for 26 years and he’s there. What they say about antipsychotics is absolutely true and should be open information to everyone. What I feel people like you are ultimately “concerned” with is that people like this “give antipsychotics a bad name” or some other similar garbage. Antipsychotics should have a bad name - As illustrated in the video. These people featured here clearly have severe and complex mental health issues and are feeling empowered to speak about the effects antipsychotics have and how they have been able to overcome what they have overcome by their own will and not the will of a physician who was likely medicating them under duress with (obviously) fairly useless pharmaceuticals. As explained - these phenomena are complex emotional issues - antipsychotics and shrinks absolutely do not have to be the Machiavellian puppet masters here. These are people capable of living far better by being empowered through their own strength and shared experience than by simply taking tablets that have no discernible purpose other than to sedate and deflate all emotion and natural humanity. The stereotype of a shuffling drooling blank eyed zombie exists for a reason, because that is what antipsychotics do to people and it’s totally logical to want to find human ways to acknowledge experience and gain strength. The purpose of antipsychotics toted by psychiatrists is to improve quality of life (and yes sometimes sedate a person indefinitely because they are deemed as being unsafe) - well these people are doing far better at improving their own quality of life, without antipsychotics. “Concerning” my arse.
@@herbertgoldstein1156 Is that your best argument? If you believe you simply talk people out of paranoid delusions, pervasive suicidality and actionable heteroagression, all caused by a biochemical disease of the brain with a known effective treatment, I don't know what to tell you.
If and when one can acknowledge that they hear voices, they are still congetive enough to separate them. Meaning, though a voice may be telling them to do something illegal for instance. They still know not to, and if they do, there's no reason they shouldn't be punished by their actions, when they state the voices made me do it. What's the difference between me telling someone to react a certain way, and their knowing that a voice in their head is telling them to react in the same way. If they listen to me or a voice in their head, to do what ever I or the voice states to do, it still their decesision.
This is why support groups are so so precious. There's nothing more healing than having someone who really knows what you're experiencing validate you.
Eh I'm 50/50 on this. I agree they're helpful while you're going through it. But once you're on the other side being around people still going through it can impede recovery. Like the saying you are who you surround yourself with
@@alexcisneros2980 yeah thats true, i can see that
I've got a video of schizophrenia symptoms on my channel.
cringe
@@jittanian you think schizophrenia is chringe?.
Anyone going through this or anything else I’m sending love your way.
💖🙏💞
th-cam.com/video/-TPnEILNisI/w-d-xo.html.
Thank you
I’m going to take your love and put it in my bank account
How nice...back out to all , love n positivity xx
Mental health issues are so important to discuss and need to be normalized. Thanks to these brave people for sharing. Its given me some strength to not give up on my own mental struggles.
It will. It takes time for people who don’t understand to realize how important it is. I hope you never give up.
✊🏼
And why exactly should we normalize mental health issues?
@@jagottem100 so we can find solutions.
@Papa Brütus what is normal?
I wish my sibling could have found a group like this. Maybe they'd still be alive today.
Sorry to hear e that
I simply couldn’t imagine. Much strength to these folks
th-cam.com/video/-TPnEILNisI/w-d-xo.html.
Exactly what I was going to say.
I'm from Australia most people just call me a junkie.
Very well done to vice for making this. These are issues that should no longer be taboo. We are all human.
Amen friend and we are very wornable ,true Sin. I wase same even worse I wase torcerd (antel one voice inditificate self : unclean spirits-demon)
I wase instructed to call on Creator on uneverse-God and gospel.to respond to him true faith , confetion and trust ,and whit autorety on Holly Spirit after cleaning whith his blood true faith I wase healed and start attending protestant church assembling of God or Evangelical
God bless you
And I hope samebody gone tell on this people good news Gospels...
I sty avafrm and totally Heald..Mal glory to Go
th-cam.com/video/5kclbCp7T-o/w-d-xo.html
I have schizophrenia and even though I'm doing better now, watching this video and seeing a support group full of people who I can relate with was seriously healing for me to see and watch
Although at a much lesser scale, the best thing that helped me with my mental health was moving in with my friends.
If you still haven't, find people that can relate to you it's the most overlooked piece of advice in my oppinion and this video only reaffirms that suspicion.
@@sedanwheel4146 Hey man thank you for reaching out to me. I actually screenshotted what you wrote on my phone so that I could look at it again for a reminder later. But yeah man I 100% agree, social support and connections are vital for anybody let alone for somebody who has a mental illness or disorder. Luckily enough my best friend is a man I met in the psyche Ward and who also had psychosis but thankfully recovered and is doing good again nowadays. Him being in my life and having the ability to relate does wonders for my mental health along with simply having positive supports and friendships/family in general. I'm definitely trying to find more social connections in spite of the pandemic making this difficult via lockdown and whatnot but having even a couple quality friends does wonders even still.
I hope you are doing good and I'm happy for you to have found such a positive group of people who you live with. You seem like a good hearted and kind person and I wish you the best my friend. God bless and know there is always hope, there is almost always some reason to keep fighting and to hold on!
Thank you for sharing this. These folks are brave for sharing their stories and we all need to recognize that everyone is going through something and that we can’t make assumptions about people. Cheers.
I hear voices and it took me a while to get back to myself and gain a bit of confidence, which was only possible because of this group. You need a lot of courage. Although my childhood trauma was less severe than some of the people in this doc, but maybe that is why my voices are not always mean. That said more than 80% (it is assumed by scientists to be closer to 90%) of all people in the mental health system are victims of some sort of childhood abuse or adversity. This is one of the biggest cover ups.
I feel for the trumpeter. When I was on high doses of antipsychotics, I could not play music, even though I am a trained musician. Music did not make sense to me. I hope he is better soon. I watched this video a while back, but I sometimes think of the people here and I wish them well. 🙏❤
*Anthony_Support0* empowered individuals to reclaim their identities and forge ahead on a path of personal growth and development.
I hear voices in my head and it’s because of trauma but I always thought it was psychosis or schizophrenia i actually even got diagnosed with an antipsychotic by a psych who didn’t take the time to understand
Have you tried talking back to the voices?
I have n that worsened them
Don't you think that you are possessed by a devil or a bad spirit?
@@bartgang8679 demons don't exist
@@fortytwo244 well, that's what you think
Mental Health is absolutely important, especially as you get older.
I learned that the more intelligent one is, the more understanding one is to those that are struggling to survive.
And the more difficult it is to manage your own sanity.
God I wish America looked at mental health more like this and had more resources where we can support one another, instead of shoving a bunch of pills down our throats without even knowing what’s really going on…this is like AA but for people with schizophrenia! I love it 🥰
Look into pharmaceutical company lawsuits
Mental health groups were available but they were only for women and I was not allowed to participate. The answer to my problem before someone realized I was schizophrenic was that "I worked with too many men"... so yea, there need to be better resources 😕
So women poo huh
because america is the only country without groups like the one shown in this video.
keep up the xenophobic anti-america circlejerk!
Nearly every Community Mental Health Center focuses intensely on group discussion, peer-to-peer mentoring and therapy specific to their symptoms. The difficult task is consistency in ongoing treatment which can stem from the individual, care setting or a single trigger event
Thank you VICE for showcasing these people's stories - as someone who grew up with family afflicted with these mental health issues, it was refreshing to see a new perspective to treatment. Sending lots of love and positive energy to those who experience these hardships each and every day!
I was going through the same exact thing and what I can honestly say helped me get over it was calling on the name of Jesus! I used to hear voices and feel things. I listened to the voice in my head and it had me run out of my house in my underwear to a hospital and I was brought into a psych ward. Never had any sort of mental health issue before then. The power of prayer is real, Jesus is real, and I honestly think most of these voices are demonic especially when it comes to hurting yourselves. What I'm trying to say my friends is to trust in Him and I promise, you have His word not mine, that everything will be made better. Much love to everyone here in the comments!
May I aak what the voices said?
Props to vice for giving these guys a voice
I'm speechless. I'm thankful to have this different perspective now.
It's heartwarming to see people overcome decades old Trauma, even more so when the Trauma talks back to you in the voices of the abusers.
Much love to everyone struggeling. You're extremely strong personalities and whatever you're going through I have not a doubt in mind that you'll get trough it to life a happy and peaceful life.
Thanks for the nice message.
Locked up for 26 years for jumping out a window that is tragic.. just goes to show the stigma around mental health is still rampant. I’m glad these people have a group to talk.
I just have one voice and he's a bully. I can't imagine having more of them to put up with. I'd go insane.
They're all bullies, the key is to ignore them and never do anything they say.
I have several voices and most are the voices of people from my past who hurt and abused me
@@liahlove8297 Not all of them are bullies, people in africa hear positive voices which dont tell them to commit crimes or to suicide. From what i understand people in africa think that schizophrenics are connected to god and there for respected instead of thrown in the gutter like the rest of the world does.
@@JohnDoe-ye6ke I am not talking about hearing from spirits. I'm talking about the illness. I am a voice hearer and these voices are destructive.
@@liahlove8297 it's probably voice to skull. They're lying it's not mental illness it's synthetic telepathy. Mind control
It’s vital that these people have a place to go and get some help and feel they aren’t alone with their struggles and to feel understood by those around them. There’s a lady in my local market who speaks to herself all day long and she always scared me, I hope she can get some help and find some semblance of peace... bless these people, power to you.
I love when vice does French stuff. Its my mother tongue and I notice all the small mis translations and understand the piece and enjoy the piece way more or less
This was really good. I'd like to see more stuff like this about mental health.
Still one of the best Vice reports in the past few years
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
It must be a living hell having voices constantly in your head
It is. I'm hearing voices since 12 years now, I got them from a withdrawal from the neuroleptic medication "clozapine". This med almost killed me, never take any psych meds if you want to live ! I never heard voices in my life before this withdrawal. The only thing I found so far that helped me is psilocybin mushrooms and cannabis.
You have voices in your head everybody does they are called thoughts its called the egoic mind
@F G I took clozapine for 4 years, 100mg / day. I didn't know you have to taper off this med very slowly and did a cold turkey. This almost killed me, I couldn't sleep for several weeks, had severe cramps, shivering and panic attacks all day etc. etc. After this there sudenly were people in my room talking to me, it's called hypersensitive psychosis I think. I only recently found out that the voices are not real. I don't know how I survived until now to be honest. I am self medicating with cannabis and low doses of psilocybin now which helps me tolerate the voices much better.
@Aria Casteal Ill agree with moonglow..psychiatric medication is the 1st and quickly handed out meducine for help..they kill more people than they help..moon and I are speaking from a 1st person narrative were you are speaking , and assuming , on the behalf of a partner..In the end..vitamin D did more for my depression than literally dizens of so called anti depressants..Diet, sun, exercise..All options people can try 1st before going to a clueless dr.interested in pushing the latest drug to change your brain chemistry..Pharmaceuticals are no good and are a EXTREME LAST RESORT, Not 1st like its done now and the last 40 yrs
@Aria Casteal No it's dangerous advice to tell people to take these deadly drugs, please don't do that. Psych meds are deadly poisons, never take these if you want to live. Your partner should taper off the antidepressants immediately, but slowly this is very important. Please take the advice from a survivor, NEVER take neurolpetics, antidepressants or tranquilizers, so many people have died from these medications already. Sorry but please educate yourself before advising anyone to take these deadly meds, thank you.
This is the true definition of community. These people help each other and care for each other. Really cool group guys keep it up.
This is the best work vice has done in the last half decade
Damn that must be extremely hard. I wish all of them love and happiness! **sending virtual hugs**
Never turn down your ambition because someone is uncomfortable with the volume
Ok dad
@@fortytwo244 “ok son, you will understand when you get older”
@@fortytwo244 lol you don't listen to the best advice and fight against it? Rebel yourself to be a broke simp
@@chrisgriffin6489 calm down buddy
@@fortytwo244 you jealous you see a real man
I Hear voices in my head they counsel me they understand they talk to me.
sometimes i think it wouldnt be bad to have some kind of voice with good intentions in my head, giving me advices etc. but of course if they turn mad on you its not pleasurable
@@herbertgoldstein1156 if they turn mad on you it means something is broken in your mind bc of unhealed past traumas usually
Randy Orton cmon bruh
@@xxgerardoxx2428 the funniest part is most people won’t get the joke. Was gonna comment the same thing but he beat me to it 😂
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I live with paranoid psychosis, PTSD anxiety and ADHD so i know how hard IT can be dealing with mental issues ❤️
These guys have massive balls. Talking about this to journalists must be very hard. Thanks for sharing your stories with us ✌🏻
I feel like hugging all of them dearly. Much much love to you, brave survivors. ❤️
By listening to these patients experiences it's clear to me that it's rooted in some deep trauma that they could not solve it on their own but instead suppressed it deep down in their "psyche".
Interesting observations.
They are still people no matter what, however their labels they give them is horrible!.
I personally don't its a disease but rather trauma of some kind.
We don't know what could trigger us to end up like these people.
We need to show compassion for these people.
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
These are people who have not been given a voice, so squashed so damaged so mistreated - their voices are speaking but not being heard, then they are being squashed and damaged and mistreated by the psychiatric system. Damaged people are being damaged. It’s so wonderful to see these people summon the strength to have their own voice and to speak their own words to the world and be heard and understood .
Une magnifique initiative!!! Plein d'encouragements a tout les membres de ce groupe. Ce que vous avez réussi a construire ensemble est tout simplement remarquable. Un exemple pour tous, qui montre qu'avec de l'amour et de la compassion, on peut trouver solution a tout les problèmes. Que DIEU vous bénisse !
Support groups for the people to come together who have these issues is so important to help each other out.
I suffer from this problem feel sorry for this guy
I thought you died
Thank you for bringing greater awareness to these issues. Voice hearing has been part of the human experience throughout history. For those interested in learning more about the origin of voice hearing, be sure to check out Julian Jaynes's bicameral mind theory.
I knew a guy who was schizophrenic. He was on medicated and didn't hear voices anymore but basically he could never have a normal relationship because any time he had a crush on a woman he would hear this voice of a supposed alien woman from another galaxy telling him to wait for her and not to cheat on her. Even when he was medicated and not hearing the voice he still believed that she was real so he was unable to have a relationship. How sad.
I was searching for Randy Orton theme song and ended up here. Regardless I hope this guy and others around the world overcome their problems.
Thank you for educating us, we are all going through something in life, that’s why we should always be kind to each other. Great job VICE.
Wow, this is hardcore. Kudos to these people not only for helping each other but for being willing to tell their story to camera.
You really have to love and respect the team of Vice. They cover so many things. Well done on this one too.
I don't think I'm schizophrenic, but sometimes I feel like I have different voices. Maybe, it's just different facets of my personality. When I don't like what one is saying, I think no one asked you a goddamn thing. It's helped me get better about not letting myself feel bad.
The voices will go away eventually. It takes time. Please don't take psych meds as these poisons will make things much worse and kill you sooner or later.
@@moonglow6639 I get along with them, now.
What a privilege to hear the stories of such brave, intelligent people. This kind of compassion and courage is what will help us all. ❤️
So happy Vice is back to being good again
The voice that help the guy on the date thats a real friend
Not only the voice... Whole another person lives in my head and he is riding me.
(( hug ))
Did these people's stories resonate with you? I hope you have people you can talk to about this. It sounds really exhausting and scary.
fr lol
You have an energy attachment . If you feel your soul is depleted it’s because can entity is feeding off of you. You need to reclaimed your mind, body, and soul. Demand it to leave and if it doesn’t serve me for my highest good I commanded you to leave my space! I have authority over my mind and body! Visualize a violet flame cosmic energy bubble surrounding your body as protection call in Archangel Michael for assistance they fear him so much!
An important thing about hearing voices is that many people only hear voices about once or twice in their lives. In my experience it can go a long time between episodes but it doesn’t mean you’re “less sick”.
I live in France, I hear voices, and I take a daily dose of abilify. When I got out of the hospital after a month, which by the way was the worst of my entire life, they just sent me home and that was it. Without this med though, I would have likely killed myself as the voices grew more and more dominant and there was nothing I could do to stop them. I tried stopping the med for a few months and immediately went back to a clinic, much better than the hospital though. I was of course diagnosed with schizophrenia.
Edit: As for me, the voices either told me to kill myself, described everything I did, or insulted me. With the med, I hear them much less but they're still here a bit, I don't think anything can completely remove them.
Mindful practices - Meditation will be super helpful - to observe the voices - and not engage or identity - using the breath as an anchor to return to when you feel lost within them
I'm a mindfulness practitioner and teacher myself but I would caution against using mindfulness as a tool in this instance. It can potentially make voices worse. I would instead recommend Internal Family Systems Therapy or Focusing Oriented Therapy with someone who is trauma trained. Perhaps if that goes well then mindfulness afterwards.
Quality vice report after a long time
I wonder if it’s unresolved PTSD manifesting in auditory ways.
Most mental illness has elements of trauma as triggering events.
Yeah
Can you upload an English version I don't go on youtube to read!
I've noticed that people who suffer from these types of illness are often very artistic and incredibly smart. The mind can be terrible at times, just imagine what they could be without the distractions.
MENTAL HEALTH IS SO IMPORTANT! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻❤️
This was such a good video! Thank you for shedding some light on this situation
If this was in English I could understand and keep up with what was being said. I cannot read the subtitles fast enough.
Idk if loneliness as a child who had no friends is trauma. The voices i have are anime, movie, video game, book cover etc anything that has a picture I think the character can see hear and interact with me. 🤷♀️ but I control them sorta they are like connected to my back by huge chains and in indestructible bubbles. Or they are all in a community room and able to see through my eyes. 🤷♀️ they dont go away even though I have some friends now.
I feel like this could be compared to some obsessive behaviours/thoughts that keep coming back and stronger. For a while I was deep in a state like that, taking control is what matters - first they'll go away only for an hour, but the second time they'll leave for two and so on. If you keep being mentally strong, you can get rid of this in a month, even though it might be hard when you are used to feeling powerless and giving up right away for years. Think of a new you and push on to get there
Even tho it's unfortunate subject matter, it's still refreshing to see a video from France that has nothing but actual french people.
I hope these people receive the healing they need
Good vice story after long time
This was amazing
For those who actually Suffer from Schizophrenia and Paranoia, the best advice I can possibly give is to speak about what is causing this issue(s) and not close them off from others around you, especially those who care for your wellbeing, it can be a friend, family member, lover, or someone in your community that takes the time to listen to your endeavors and your story, and be able to effectively help. For those who have a key awareness, I agree with the concept of Support groups and seeking help from others who have pushed passed the threshold of addiction but, there are some symptoms that can be simulated to an individual(s) that doesn't actually have signs of mental illness like Schizophrenia or Paranoia. In my personal research and experiences in the matter I find being able to block out personal harassment and "cope" (finding a way(s) to enforce mental fortitude on your own mind from negative comments and accusations) with whatever that seems to be causing the most issues in your life are most effective on helping yourself and being able to be a guide or guidance for those who do not yet understand some of their circumstances.
Voices dont always have to be other people...the worst is when its ur own
I think that most people would assume that it's their own. I think that's part of what the support group is about - identifying that it may not always be your OWN voice talking to you...
@@kellybraille if it’s not your own voice than who is it?
@@billybob6469 Mine is specific toxic people from my past.And more than one.
@@billybob6469 ive heard of people hearing demonic or even angelic like voices. Even loved ones like parents or grandparents and voices of the people that caused trauma at some point. It can be anything
Thank you vice for sharing this
Thank you for mental health video!!
We must be greater then what we suffer.
Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy and also Focusing are both really good approaches for working with inner voices. As a counsellor I've seen them both work well (similar approaches).
Love and support. You are so brave! 🙌
What about the voices that prevent fatal car accidents?
You mean voices that are positive in nature?
Yes, I think it is society that has a far distance to go in understanding these voices and humanity in general. My son hears voices, and now after a long struggle with trying to make him conform to ‘us’, we are now listening to him instead. His ‘voices’ are spot on, and I dare say my son is my greatest teacher in life for providing a doorway into what is more real than this inane existence we often find ourselves in! I am now so thankful he resisted us at all costs and escaped medications etc - even though I tried hard for years to get him to go the pharmaceutical and psychiatric path.
You mean you're Conscious
@@AylaRose Yes 100%%%
@@redinstrumental7535 Feb 2017
I was driving home late one night and was fidgeting with my radio when I heard in my head ACCIDENT ACCIDENT - I looked up at the road and I was reaching an intersection and there was a car stopped in my entire lane. I knew I was gonna T bone this guy and I slammed on my breaks and turned my wheel over to the side and our tires maybe touched! That was my proof that we have spirit guides with us 24-7-
Love to these people, support groups are so few and far between all it takes is one person to be brave enough to start one.
Wish TH-cam or Vice would have someone translate in English out loud so my son can hear it. He never wants counseling. So I can sneak it on him that there's people like him with the same problems
beautiful video!! I loved seeing others’ little distractions, we all have our own
Well done Vice, thank you
Thnx for sharing.
You are loved.
Hey be nice to them
Amazing, thank you!
I can relate 100%😳
as doctor is hard to understand mental illnesses. especially becasue human brain is a unique organ in the animal kingdom
we don't know its inner workings and many of its functions are still a complete mistery.
you can simulate a tissue damage that damage motor or sensorial control in an animal model, but no animal model can simulate the complexety of human emotions interactions and social construct. aòsp for obvious reasons we cannot fully investigate a living brain like we would for other organs
we have tools but they are extremely crude if confronted with the miracles of other branches of medicine like surgery or farmacology that have constant evolution
i will remember forever what an old doctor told me during my trainee days in a psychiatric ward speaking about the difficulties of treating mental illnesses
"we are like a monkey trying to repair a spaceship computer fallen from orbit with a stick and a rock"
it is sad and i can relate to that sensation of impotence because mental illnesses are still one of the area where even the best doctor can fail to treat his patient even with the best knowledge avaible
also doctors are still human, and while i don't condone or justify it, i have to recognize that even in our profession there is still much stigma about mental illness and by extension patients. we don't propose lobotomy or electric shock anymore but there is still a lot of work to do about human treatment of psychiatric patients
I think that conventional medicine cannot treat these conditions. There is no question. It absolutely cannot. There is no branch of conventional medicine which exists today which can effectively treat them. The idea that it can is a scam. It has never really been the case that people with mental illnesses needed to be locked up and treated with humiliating, horrible drugs. This idea was invented by the pharmaceutical industry through manufactured consent. Before pharmacology there was the church/religion and the church enjoyed its oppression of mentally ill people too, and it had an entirely different ethos to pharmacology, but it still benefits itself by creating prejudice of a vulnerable group. Here you can see a steady evolution in thought. How instituted spiritual healing went from archaic religious dogma to fake science and here you might realise that the science of psychiatry really is fake. People don't learn respect anymore.
You talk about modern medicine being a miracle, but the real miracle in the case of mental illness is allowing the soul on its journey and showing love and compassion towards someone who experienced trauma. Yes, all mental illness almost without exception is completely based in trauma and this fact is covered up by psychiatry. If you do some genuine research you will realise this is true and proven.
One of the major problems with the medical profession is that it is internally oppressive and hierarchical. There is so much pressure on doctors to perform so called miracles that they become so stressed that they cannot relate to their patients on a compassionate/human level anymore. Is it any wonder that doctors who basically flunked medical school end up in psychiatry wherein they are trained to essentially abuse people in "medically humane ways"? And everyone who works in a hospital setting, nurses included, are subject to this social pressure. Yet, modern medicine gets away with psychiatry when psychiatry itself is the epitome of this oppression. Not a single ounce of this fuss and concern about doing your job right is given to people with mental illnesses, on the receiving end of systematic abuse. But despite any number of people actually waking up to this fact, it just remains so completely convenient for the economic society to label people, lock them up and discard them, almost as if it is a novel form of rehabilitation. People with mental illnesses are treated as if they are a problem, rather than enabled to find their own solutions. There is a major difference between care and cared about. Until people realise what is really going on and that professionals need to become humiliated and embarrassed about the frankly disgusting ways that psychiatry chooses to implement its solution, it looks like this plan is here to stay!!
I don't know if you wanted my opinion, so, sorry for posting anyway.
*ANTHONY_SUPPORT0* services were the key to stopping the prolonged stalking and harassment that had taken over my life as a Targeted individual, and I'm grateful for their assistance.
How do you distinguish what are voices and what are your own (invasive) thoughts?
All are considered invasive thoughts I think
I didn't know that therapy could help with something like this. There need to be more help groups around
Yes, support system is important
I hear voices in my head, they council, they understand, they talk to me
HA HA edited but still no likes.
@@linconposey3876 ?
@@teeheehihi Nobody liked you comment. And no one will ever like it.
Besides yourself. HA HA.
@@linconposey3876 ok?
Spirits dwell within you. You can’t change that. You are a multidimensional being having a human experience. Hearing voices is not a bad thing is a psychic ability called clairaudient. We have spirit guides that serve your highest goods and want you to stay on track of your soul’s blueprint. The spirits that do not serve your highest good may have came from other past life and attached themselves on your etheric body instead of going to the light when they died and followed you on your current lifetime. Also they may have attached themselves to you when you felt very low point on this current lifetime when your vibration was low. It’s always spiritual. Medicine will keep the spirits from you hearing them speak but that doesn’t change them from leaving your etheric body and following you to your next incarnation. I suggest you see a regression hypnosis therapist so they can solve the problem and have the spirit leave your body from their own will and go to the light!
Thank you, Vice
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This is beautiful
What if the voice in my head isn’t my own?!
Its the feds trying to use you for some false flag event
But how would you know?
Read scripture my brother know that we are in times to be called to be the church
the worst thing about this is,sometimes.It takes over your body.
The world is TWISTED up.....It should be about helping one another....But the government makes it all about the $$$$$$$ and turns us against eachother..
SAD
So how do I really live with the voices in my head?
Why are the voices so persuasive?
They know everything about your life because they essentially are you. So threats and judgements are extremely personal and cruel, and predictions of the future are made in extreme detail and fear
@@olivermexas1203 take the man in the video who almost killed his husband as an example even though he knows his voice is in his head and his threats are ridiculous, why believe them? I get how it can drive someone to suicide as theyre already in a bad mental state but how could it drive him to kill someone who brings him happiness? I know u can't exactly answer for him but if you do have some sort of insight to help me understand it would be very helpful
@@SirPickless Just the same as an abused woman or individual begins to believe what they are being told by their abuser. It's constant, relentless, never ceasing messages that make you doubt what you thought were truths about yourself. The doubt feeds the relentless messages being heard and the circle continues. Many hearing voices so loudly they can't sleep...lack of sleep is extremely detrimental to our brains and bodies and affects our perceptions greatly. Not to mention the paranoia and hallucinations of different kinds that show "proof" or validate the messages being heard. Put that all together for someone whose enduring this alone for YEARS. That's how, unfortunately ☹️
What is the song that plays at the beginning?
While the perspectives of these people are precious, and this group seems to generate positive outcomes, the stance of this documentary on antipsychotic medication is a little concerning.
In what way is it “concerning” - they are all understanding themselves better, feeling more confident, feeling more understood and empowered. To these people at this time it is not about risk aversion, Jesus one guy was locked up for 26 years and he’s there. What they say about antipsychotics is absolutely true and should be open information to everyone. What I feel people like you are ultimately “concerned” with is that people like this “give antipsychotics a bad name” or some other similar garbage. Antipsychotics should have a bad name - As illustrated in the video. These people featured here clearly have severe and complex mental health issues and are feeling empowered to speak about the effects antipsychotics have and how they have been able to overcome what they have overcome by their own will and not the will of a physician who was likely medicating them under duress with (obviously) fairly useless pharmaceuticals. As explained - these phenomena are complex emotional issues - antipsychotics and shrinks absolutely do not have to be the Machiavellian puppet masters here. These are people capable of living far better by being empowered through their own strength and shared experience than by simply taking tablets that have no discernible purpose other than to sedate and deflate all emotion and natural humanity. The stereotype of a shuffling drooling blank eyed zombie exists for a reason, because that is what antipsychotics do to people and it’s totally logical to want to find human ways to acknowledge experience and gain strength. The purpose of antipsychotics toted by psychiatrists is to improve quality of life (and yes sometimes sedate a person indefinitely because they are deemed as being unsafe) - well these people are doing far better at improving their own quality of life, without antipsychotics. “Concerning” my arse.
are you a shrink ?
@@herbertgoldstein1156 Is that your best argument?
If you believe you simply talk people out of paranoid delusions, pervasive suicidality and actionable heteroagression, all caused by a biochemical disease of the brain with a known effective treatment, I don't know what to tell you.
@@svstem6992 there is no biochemical disease.
@@herbertgoldstein1156 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4159061/
These comments are sure defeating that 8-13% statistic
If and when one can acknowledge that they hear voices, they are still congetive enough to separate them. Meaning, though a voice may be telling them to do something illegal for instance. They still know not to, and if they do, there's no reason they shouldn't be punished by their actions, when they state the voices made me do it.
What's the difference between me telling someone to react a certain way, and their knowing that a voice in their head is telling them to react in the same way. If they listen to me or a voice in their head, to do what ever I or the voice states to do, it still their decesision.
Randy Orton is an expert in this matter
Empowering!