As a Bangladeshi, I totally agree with one comment of the speaker, "Hamare yaha munafiqat bohot hain.". Truly hypocrisy and falsehood are deeply ingrained in Pakistan.
TRUE, YOUR MONEY WAS USED TO CONSTRUCT "ISLAMABAD" AND ALSO AYUB KHAN LOOKED DOWN AT BANGALIS. I WAS KID WHEN BANGLADESH CAME INTO BEING, AND MY BANGALI FRIENDS DISAPPEARED FOR EVER, NO CLUE WHERE THEY WERE GONE. BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES , BUT DESTROYED BY PAKISTANI DICTATORS . BUT JUST OBSERVE WHAT IS GOING ON IN PAKISTAN, I HAVE DOUBTS IT WILL SURVIVE .
@@amitbfl I assume, you are a Bangladeshi. Dont you dare insult the sacrifices of our martyrs. Martyrs like Rumi, Bodi, Azad who were in their early 20s, could have had a bright future. Yet they chose to suffer so much at the Pakistani army camps. They chose not to open their mouth and preferred death. For what? So that you and I could have a peaceful life free of racial discrimination and constant humiliation. Here, you are, using your mouth to call the land they earned with their blood as east Pakistan. Shame on you. Its Disgraceful. I feel so sad and enraged when Bangladeshis like you consider our beloved country a part of Pakistan. If you still consider yourself a Pakistani, why don't you go to the western wing and settle there? And what ideology? The ideology that permits you to murder and innocent people? I spit on that ideology.
@@piyushdas079 what do u mean by that? explain. before passing a comment read subcontinent history, punjabis were slaughtered for centuries by your friends known as "invaders", we are INDIANS AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT. THANK U
People of Bangladesh had seen a lot of difficulties and atrocities. However, I think Bangladesh is in a few nation who got independence in a very short period of time. Now they are on the path of progress and development. Their government is very sincere about the economy and major challenges.
The war was won in a short period indeed. If we compare Afghan, Iraq, Vietnam war with our 9 month long war, we won victory in rocket speed. But the journey towards that war was 23 year long and very painful.
Bangladesh's independence did not come overnight, it was the struggles of Bangladeshis' life and death issues. No country in the world has ever been able to become independent without the help of a friendly country. Bangladesh is eternally grateful for India's political and military support in Bangladesh's independence war in 1971. (A member of Mukti-Bahini 1971).🔴
I'm happy atleast after all this struggle Bangladesh is and will be success story for many ..... I read that around 2million Bangladeshis were killed in fhat war....is that number true or its Indian propoganda to defame pakistan
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 No, nothing is Indian propaganda, it was the true story about the Bangladesh independence war. Pakistan army killed 3 million people and reaped 4 hundred thousand women. 26th March 1971 was the first-mid night of the operation name was a searchlight. The New York Times said first midnight Pakistan army killed more than 120,000 innocent people who were sleeping the outside the road and attacked all police stations and Dhaka university. Bangladesh every year 26th March observed independence day. Bangladesh would not have become independent If India had not intervened. 🙏
Impressed with the knowledge of host and the straight forwardness of the guest. Keep it up. What a lesson in history. A must watch for students of history.
Don’t know about Pakistan history but I found him the smartest person on economy I have heard yet in Pakistan. Hope to hear him for round two on economic ideas. Economics is the most fascinating topic for me. 😊
Well, 50 years later see where’s Bangladesh and where’s Pakistan, they’re on the brink of destruction, when your intentions aren’t good, you’re bound to pay one way or the other! As an Indian I’m proud of our Government to have helped and aided in the creation of Bangladesh who’s an ally and great for textile industry in India 🇮🇳 ❤
The distance between Pakistan and Bangladesh were too vast.our leadership removed the. S so what was meant to be at Partition came through later.mrs ghazanfar Ref to Dr Moeed Pirzada Vlog.thanks
This is one of the most brief talk I've ever heard on Bhutto, economics and military relationship. Cleared all my concepts that why Bhutto failed and the actual reasons behind fall of Dhaka.
I live in a state called Odisha, which does not have a border with Bangladesh but is very close to it. My grandfather was administrator of a refugee camp, which was funded 40% by govt and 60% on donations. They always had refugees coming from Bangladesh, since 1950 (then East Pakistan). The refugees were mostly Hindus, Christians and Shia Muslims, escaping mobs and riots. But in the late 1968s, the numbers started rising, this time even Sunnis started coming with the others. In 1971, the number peaked. Odisha is a coastal state, so most of the refugees came by boat. Everyday, fishermen would pull boats filled with starving people, that they used to find in the seas. My grandfather was a doctor, so he used to treat the refugees who needed help. In 1971, refugees used to arrive with a lot of injuries. Almost all of them were tortured, men women and children everyone. Some of the stories were harrowing. There's the story of two sisters, one 16 years old and the other 14 years old which sends shudders down my spine even now when I think about it. My father was just a boy back then and he used to help my grandfather. The year 1970 left a permanent mark on him. Today, most of them have settled in India. They have taken citizenship. Some of them have gone back to Bangladesh. My father was recently invited to the wedding of the grandson of one of the refugees. I accompanied him to a city called Kuakata in Bangladesh. It felt good to see those people smiling, even though I had never seen them before. Just thought you might be interested in a small story. Cheers🤍
@@orion7326 soul breaking pain. Don't know how to heal? The trauma of 'operation Searchlight ' committed by Pakistan Army is now grounded in our collective unconscious . Our conscience trying to escape the responsibility to release itself. But now we understand it's right to face it. Someday by being powerful we will bring down Pakistan Army under the trial of any tribunal for their war crimes. We owe to history.
@@arifhossainrubel4791 Bangladesh is already doing quite well on it's own, which is a great thing in itself. I have been there only once, but the things I saw impressed me quite a lot. Now you guys have got a metro as well. But I have to say, the drivers are scary😅, very similar to the Tamil drivers in India. I travelled a few times by bus and each time I had to keep reminding myself that the driver is an expert, nothing is going to happen to me and i will be okay😅. The roads were quite nice though. And the people were lovely. I only speak a little bit of Bangla but they were very nice. They also were quite funny, which was great because I like people who can laugh and so, I had a wonderful time. I must admit, the way you guys cook fish is incredible. Very tasty. I have borrowed some recipes and tried to recreate them, with limited success.🤣 The way I see it, Bangladesh's prosperity is its best revenge. Today, Pakistan is imploding but Bangladesh is doing quite well. Pakistan is going in reverse, while Bangladesh is cruising on the sixth gear. No matter what, I will always have a soft spot for Bangladesh. And I think most Indians already have a very soft spot for Bangladesh. And it makes me feel good to see Bangladesh succeed and go ahead. 🇧🇩❤️
Wow! what an interview. Shezad, you almost fooled me into not watching by labelling Mr Nazar as an "investment banker". Actually, his view of the events leading to the creation of Bangladesh was the most fascinating. This interview "hits it out of the park", as they say. Congratulations (once again)!
If you want to learn about emerging markets, Yousaf Nazar is the real guru to listen and watch. He utters every word with impeccable and unimpeachable fact.
One of the best podcasts to date on this channel! Highly intellectual, factual and unbiased account of our history. What I loved was the honesty of the discussion. On top of that Shezad himself was so looking forward to the show, he shaved for it! matlab puppo bacha bun kar podcast host kya hai! Kya baat hai!
My kudos to Shehzad and to this amazing guest for such a wonderful and a high-bandwidth conversation. Seeing this from outside of PK - it is of immense relief to see that there are at least a few people who are not deluded about PK and the magnitude of the problems that it faces. So, Kudos!!! And my Best wishes for more such wonderful shows and discussions. 🙏
And this attitude is very rare to find in respective across the border from India. I equally like, admire and respect Indians and Pakistanis as we all are a family of humanity.
The genocide was especially targeted towards Hindus. Some of the most horrific massacres include that in Ramana Kali temple in Dhaka on March 27, 1971. Pak Army simply entered the temple, killed all the devotees present including the priest and then destroyed the temple.
A community is blessed if it has brave Broadcasters/ Journalists /Teachers /Preachers who look for TRUTH and express it without fear especially in the face of any consequential FASCISM!
20:05 The same thing goes for West Pakistani leaders like Yahia, Bhutto, Ayub or whoever. They were also NOT soul spokes person of entire Pakistan. They were for only West Pakistan, whereas Sheikh Mujib was for East one. Equal=Equal.
He also dismissed the democratically elected government of Badshah Khan. He started the tradition of soldiers dressed as trials being sent to Kashmir which was repeated in 1965 and 1999. Hindus were pushed out of Karachi (though Sind was not partitioned) by Liaqat Ali to make room for Mohajirs. What happened to 24% Hindus that were in Pakistan in 1947. You think that did not hurt educational infrastructure and trade competitiveness.
25:00 Sir. India does not have a federal system. We are not a loose association of states like Pakistan or the USA. We were united under the central government, we drafted a constitution and in the 50s, we were reorganised as states based on linguistic lines. But the central government has the power to redraft the state. Many cases of Indian states being bifurcated or trifurcated for administrative reasons exists. The most recent example is the southern state of Andhra, divided into Andhra and Telangana; the original Andhra state was organised in the 50s and had parts of Madras Province, Hyderabad, Mysore state and other provinces all in it.
Ppl like u guys should be more in Pakistan and also they should listen this more.. I feel intellectual Pakistani are heard more in India than Pakistan which doesn’t help much for them!!
Remember he is not your friend..you are supporting this channel and keeping him afloat,but for that he would not survive.However good he maybe…he is aPakistani. And he can change only to an extent.Anna wakt inpe Zaya na karo..
Most of the villages were hindu dominated. Many villages were burned down and residents were killed mercilessly and today many corpses are found in undermining in Dhaka. It's a hindu genocide not a bengali genocide.
Pak army recruited Jamaat-e-Islami who thought it was holy duty to eradicate hindus. It all comes back to the sunnat of papa momo and the violence within it
I am a Pakistani.... And the only issue with Pakistan before 1971 and right now is that we are hostage to our military establishment. I always felt ashamed that our military killed our bangali brothers but now I don't feel ashamed... Because it were not the common Pakistanis who did that. Love to all my bangali brothers from Lahore.
Good that if you are not ashamed of your Army's and political leaders role in Bengali genocide. Let me tell you something, more than lacs of momins were borned after the Pak Armys raping spree, ordered by Bhutto and Army generals. So, these Pakistani momins would be around 40-50 years old.
@@smilefaceofbengal The one leader who has actually challenged this unholy regime is in danger right now. Please pray for Imran Khan... He is our hope to break these shackles.
But it was common Pakistanis who forcibly convert Hindu girls. Sind was not partitioned. Yet what happened to Hindus who were 51% of Karachi population in 1947? That was done by ordinary Pakistanis. Ordinary Pakistanis are responsible for genocide of Kashmiri Pandits because they put money in jihad boxes.
This is a very honest interview. We hear about the coming together of Pakistan as the Sindh Assembly, the Punjab Assembly and the Bengal Assembly voted in the Muslim League, and as it won a referendum in the Frontier Province. We also hear, a little later, that Kalat was annexed. All these are well known to students of history. For a knowledgeable Pakistani to say this openly is a pleasant shock. However his leaning towards Bhutto distorts the whole episode.
A objective , highly informative and well researched prodcast . Thank you yousuf Nazar for bringing these essential facts on record and educating us, particularly the new generation who know nothing about that tragic period in our history. There were so many falsehoods and propaganda cycled on this issue. TI
Another fact must be mentioned here Sk. MUJIB SAAB was arrested by PAK army 25th of February 1971 and taken to Pakistan prison for almost a year, he was completely oblivious of what was going on behind his back
At 2:24 isn't that an Error? Md. Ali Jinnah never declared Bengali as a State Language but he declared Urdu as a State Language while standing amongst people of the then East Pakistan. I think many people underestimate a Bengali's love for his Mother Tongue.
From the inception of Pakistan, Bengalis of East Pakistan had faced discrimination. Islam teaches the equality among all human beings as well as fraternity and sorority among all Muslims. We, Bengalis, despite being the majority of the population of Pakistan as well as despite being a Muslim majority, were neither being treated as brothers/sisters nor being treated as equal. West Pakistan used to look down upon Bengalis because of our darker skin tone. Bengalis were NOT given equal opportunity to good education and respectable jobs, despite having intelligence and talents. Furthermore, resources of East Pakistan were being used for the development of West Pakistan and our people used to starve. On 1970, a cyclone hit in the coastal areas of East Pakistan, causing a lot of casualties. Pakistan Government didn’t bother. That’s the time we’ve realized that we need a leader from our own community. In the beginning of 1971, there was an election and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman won the maximum votes. West Pakistan couldn’t digest the fact that a Bengali (someone from an inferior race) would rule them. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was arrested, but was released later. On that moment, the whole Bengali nation felt the need of becoming an independent nation. So the war began. From the night of March 25, 1971, Yahya Khan and Tikka Khan pounced upon unarmed Bengalis in the name of “Operation Searchlight” and started killing our innocent people as well as picking up our women for rape. During those days, Pakistan Army proudly declared in the newspaper, “We will leave a nation of bastards and idiots.” About three million (3,000,000) Bengalis were being killed mercilessly (including our bright professionals) and two lakh (200,000) Bengali women were being raped repeatedly in the concentration camp by Pakistan Army and their local collaborators (Razakars). Women, who were being raped, got pregnant. Many women terminated their pregnancy. Those who couldn’t, delivered babies and abandoned them. These abandoned kids were given away for the adoption. Most of those babies were adopted by foreigners and were taken away to foreign countries. Others were adopted by our local people.
Probably the best podcast I've heard in a very long time... we all talk about such facts behind closed doors, but never say out loud! Keep it up Bhai :)
I believe that the massacre of innocent Bengalis will always haunt Pakistan s karma ! It’s a very very disgraceful moment in world history, what their “professional” military did to its own citizens !
Midway through the podcast I realised that independence of Pakistan and Bangladesh is seen mostly as partition from India, hence the heroes are Jinnah, Iqbal etc in Pakistan, Mujeeb, Soharawardi etc in Bangladesh. This has the effect of dare I say, ignorance about the British Raj and missing historical perspective about those 200 years. So up until 1947, what Pakistan, Bangladesh memorize is history of Muslim league, which is just the last chapter of the whole saga of colonization of India. In Indian history books about that era, they start from the East India company, go through the many wars between the British and the Indian kingdoms, then rise of Congress and the many colors of resistance against the British, then very late in the books the Muslim league arrives and whatever happens next is seen in India somewhat through lens of the Congress (which isn't the best way but still informative). I believe it's a gigantic wealth of historical knowledge that Pakistan and Bangladesh are missing out on. There are countless heroes to be remembered by both and many crucial incidents to be known. There are tons of stories of individuals that are awe inspiring and make you appreciate what happened to this country.
Agree. Another point especially regarding partition, especially Punjab is, that while Indians looks at partition as a sad event that divided the country, and that’s what is taught to us, and you will see Indian punjabis lamenting the event, on the Pakistani side it is a celebrated event. For them it was creation of their nation and I have rarely seen any Punjabi Pakistani even those who suffered in 47, talking about it with sadness. That’s something that I only realized through you tube videos! A very different perspective!
Also, they are missing out on this knowledge because their historybooks are designed to do that! To justify the two nation theory down and religious narrative behind creating Pakistan.
Shahzad. Is it possible that someday you invite a common person/ Pakistani and talk about his perspective. It feels like your podcast is also captured by “Elites”
I am sad bangladeshi fight fore freedom more than three times 1. Britishers to indian ------🇮🇳 2. Indians to pakistani-------🇵🇰 3. Pakistani to bengali ------🇧🇩 Love you bangla brother from your motherland india .😍😍 Joy hind, joy bangla ,Joy pakistan 🇮🇳🤝🤝🤝🤝🇧🇩🤝🤝🤝🤝🇵🇰
@Amay b Bro don't share hate .Hindu muslim se bahar hoker bhi socha ja sakta he .Akhand bharat ke liye dilo ko jodna he ek dusre ke naa ki sirf zamin ke tukdo ko iski sabse badi misaal he germany .
@Amay b bro plz iss mindsat se niklo jahaan sui kaam aati he wahaa talwar kabhi nhi aa sakti he muslim ke sath india me bhi bahut incident hue he. isi ko leker wo hame blame karte he or hum unhe hate me kuch nhi rakha he .😍😍
Geographical distance was not reason of separation of east pakistan. East Pakistan not separated in war 1965 but why separated in war 1971? USA Britain and China supported Pakistan. Why stopped war in west Pakistan border and Gen Niazi surrendered so easily in short time war of 13 days only?
One of the most compelling question for Pakistan's Army expenditure at 59:30. "With human security or territorial security, which country is more secure, Pakistan or Bangladesh?".
Book recommendations by Mr. Yousuf Nazar: 1) Gambling on Development by Stefan Dercon 2) The Alchemy of Finance by George Soros. I have read the latter and it's a great book. I will read the earlier one. I love your conversation style and wisdom & experience of Mr. Nazar.
Let me set the record straight in 1972 India did Attack west Pakistan and we lost lot of land in west and the biggest loss was when Zulfiquar Ali Butto lost Kashmir when Indra Gandhi forced Butto to sign the agreement that Kashmir is no more a international dispute , only it’s a bilateral issue which we will try to solve among ourselves, and we are not going to raise this dispute on any international forum also land which was captured from Pakistan claiming that this is our land rather whole of Kashmir is India , only they return west Pakistan captured land and solders prisoners any way I rember it was a sad and black day, I saw lot of people crying
Dear Shehzad, would you please manage to provide English subtitle of this podcast ? As I am from Bangladesh, My understanding of Urdu is very minimal. I have found it a very objective and eloquent discussion.
@@himanshusrivastava2025 I didn't ask for anything from your retarded mind & soul. I know very well about the secession and that's not my concern here. It's about something else.
I find it strange that Pakistanis make a hue and cry over Bangladesh. They should know that it was never supposed to happen. Two very distinct ethnicities and cultures from two opposite corners of United india, separated by a 1000 kms, were never to be together. Its actually a blessing in disguise for both pakistan and Bangladesh that they both got away from each other.
Not at all. Whole muslim ummah is one. Does not matter how much the distance is. Culture is different everywhere. Sindh are different than panjabis, kashmiris are different than panjabis.
@Shehzad the subscriptions on your channel are criminally low! I can't believe how you've managed to bring heavy weights to your channel and ask them incredible questions yet the message doesn't reach the masses. It's a crying shame. With incredibly short attention spans of viewers and a cut-throat competition for content creation and viewer retention, maybe try slicing your interviews into 5 mins snippets? Like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson? Keep up the good work mate.
Bhutto did not use the phrase "Tangein tor doon ga". What he said was "we will have no leg to stand on" if agreement is not reached on the Constitution.
Far better than Ayesha Jalal. Although don't agree with the guest entirely. Especially about Mujib insisting Yahia to postpone assembly and declare Marshal law by 25th March 1971. Not logical. Cause it was entirely Yahia's call. And Mujib was on the position of either separation or being the PM. But the basic fact ever uttered by any Pakistani which is 'Operation Searchlight ' was the principal reason and how brutally extreme it was. But Bhutto knew it from the beginning.
@@ThePakistanExperience the so-called evidence provided by Mr. Nazar collected by army buerocracy. Why should we believe in them? Rather you tell me something. Who were the beneficiary of postponing assembly? Obviously Pak Army and Bhutto. Not Mujib. Because assembly was badly needed for him to make six points constitutional. Timeline pe nahi logic se baat Kar. Usual hopeless Pakistani always living in conspiracy theory.
In conclusion what we need to do: 1)Economic reform 2)Bureaucratic reforms 3)Educational reforms 4)Civil-Military inter reform 5)Judicial reform 6)Police reforms 7)Election reforms 8)Land reform 9)Human development 10)Electricity reform Am I right? Anything else to add ?
@@ayeshazubair5630 - and the "we" in question in your comment above - are NOT the people of PK, imho - but the ruling elite who are really screwing PK and taking it to hell for their petty interests. Really, really Sad!!! And Unfortunate. 😞
@@arun1971sharma it is exactly religious reform which has been already done which has saved pakistan from becoming a failed state even though governance is close zero. This is Islam not Hinduism
I was looking forward to gather information on history but after listening first 40 mins of podcast..im now fan of PPP and I’m officially joining PPP..thanks for changing my views about PPP..PPP is one of the best political party in the world PS: this is what happened after listening 40 mins
The constituent assembly was first called on the 27th of February, 1971. However, Yahya Khan inexplicably postponed it without giving a new date, triggering riots all over East Pakistan. Yahya was said to be influenced by Bhutto's rhetoric on "breaking the legs" of anyone who went to Dacca.
To elaborate on the 1943 Bengal Famine, it was an artificial fanime created by the British that extracted food sources for the people of Britain and its army during WW2.
i am sure u did not read it in Pakistan, since you people read manufactured n false n concocted history,probably you heard Shashi Tharoor's speech at Oxford union🤲🤣
It is the structure of the economy and not corruption per se. He points to all the ills of the economy but not how to fix them. BTW I agree with most of the stuff he says. Living abroad like me provides one a unique perspective.
The problem with Pakistan is the well-meaning intellectuals have to spend so much time explaining the history and past and who is responsible that not much time remains to worry about the future! Unfortunate!
The guest already suggested the next steps. Not sure if you heard it. The hardest part is NOT knowing what to do - but to actually doing / implementing it. That is because it involves the elites of PK working collaboratively and sacrificing their personal self-interests in the interest of PK. And that we can bet that the elites of PK are highly unlikely to that. (The guest said that he does not see that happening in his lifetime.) For them - it is not about doing what is good for PK - but what is there in it for me. The guest said all that in the Podcast if you heard it.
Shehzad and Yousuf Nazar Sahab, thank you for a discussion that told Pakistan's side of the story. I was nearing the end of my 'Masters' program at Calcutta University when the war in East Bengal ended on 16-Dec-1971. Residents in and around Calcutta were lucky; we had a ringside view. Plot allotment in Pakistan has also thrown up a little spoken of problem -- concurrently shrinking agricultural and horticultural land. Productive fruit orchards and cropping areas have been compromised to accommodate plotting. According to 2018 figures, Pakistan's crop yield dropped to among the world's lowest levels; it's agricultural productivity slid below 50%; this forced Pakistan to close the gap by importing such food items instead.
But weren’t Bengal then the majority portion of Pakistan . Yes , Mujib had some regional rhetorics upon which he managed to win the elections but you can't hold him back saying a mere regional representative for those. Even now Punjub province plays a vital role in any election of Pakistan , they say who ever wins Punjab wins Pakistan & forms government . Would you also then like to say now Punjub doesn’t represent the whole country those who win from punjub don’t represent the Pakistan?
Finally i heard some sensible discussion coming out of Pakistan else I thought its all about makreet,khitta,pakistan ka matlab kya la illa il illah,behrooni saazish ,number 1 agency,islamic bomb & the most important hindoo baniya
20 mins in the podcast and i am disappointed by how shehzad is just letting him paint a narrative without any probing questions. did bhutto not say "east Pakistan is saved" after returning back to west Pakistan after the start of the military operation? he certainly was not an innocent bystander as yousuf nazar sahab is painting him to be.
I was also thinking the same thing. Bhutto landed in pakistan after the operation began and said ' By the grace of God ,pakistan is saved' . He wasnt a bystander but a cheerleader of genocide at least.
In a Podcast, you have to listen to the other person. Everyone's opinion matters, you don't have to correct them. Maybe some other guest in future might present a different picture and then the audience can decide what's suits them.
@@Shahzebfaheem listening to an opinion is fine. but when someone is denying or ignoring straight up facts, they need to be challenged, especially when talking about a massive historical event.
We still have journalist who toe the same line as of pre 1971. Today Baluchies and Sindhis are treated in the same manner as were bengalies pre 1971. They don't want separation but respect, fair and equal treatment.
The question is not why Mr Jinnah's ambulance broke down or why it took two hours to arrange a replacement. The question is why the father of the nation was sent to internal exile on a God forsaken place like Ziarat.
Please don't succumb to simplistic logic. Mr Jinnah was In the last stages of tuberculosis and his personal doctor said that his lungs were like paper. He was living on borrowed time. He was sent to Ziarat in good faith to gain a few days of his life. Even if the ambulance incident had not happened he would have died very soon.
@@mumtazmalik1298 yes we should have good faith and believe what we have been told But the problem is this is a recurring problem I think we as a nation shouldn’t be so naive
As a Bangladeshi, I totally agree with one comment of the speaker, "Hamare yaha munafiqat bohot hain.". Truly hypocrisy and falsehood are deeply ingrained in Pakistan.
TRUE, YOUR MONEY WAS USED TO CONSTRUCT "ISLAMABAD" AND ALSO AYUB KHAN LOOKED DOWN AT BANGALIS. I WAS KID WHEN BANGLADESH CAME INTO BEING, AND MY BANGALI FRIENDS DISAPPEARED FOR EVER, NO CLUE WHERE THEY WERE GONE. BEAUTIFUL MEMORIES , BUT DESTROYED BY PAKISTANI DICTATORS . BUT JUST OBSERVE WHAT IS GOING ON IN PAKISTAN, I HAVE DOUBTS IT WILL SURVIVE .
@@amitbfl I assume, you are a Bangladeshi. Dont you dare insult the sacrifices of our martyrs. Martyrs like Rumi, Bodi, Azad who were in their early 20s, could have had a bright future. Yet they chose to suffer so much at the Pakistani army camps. They chose not to open their mouth and preferred death. For what? So that you and I could have a peaceful life free of racial discrimination and constant humiliation. Here, you are, using your mouth to call the land they earned with their blood as east Pakistan. Shame on you. Its Disgraceful. I feel so sad and enraged when Bangladeshis like you consider our beloved country a part of Pakistan. If you still consider yourself a Pakistani, why don't you go to the western wing and settle there? And what ideology? The ideology that permits you to murder and innocent people? I spit on that ideology.
@@piyushdas079 what do u mean by that? explain. before passing a comment read subcontinent history, punjabis were slaughtered for centuries by your friends known as "invaders", we are INDIANS AND WE ARE PROUD OF IT. THANK U
After listening the entire podcast, you still came to this conclusion then I truly feel pity for you.
@@an_orange8911 HA HA WHO CARE FOR IGNORANTS
People of Bangladesh had seen a lot of difficulties and atrocities. However, I think Bangladesh is in a few nation who got independence in a very short period of time. Now they are on the path of progress and development. Their government is very sincere about the economy and major challenges.
But the rotten ideology of Islamists, butchering minorities even exists in Bangladesh after so much of bloodshed.
The war was won in a short period indeed. If we compare Afghan, Iraq, Vietnam war with our 9 month long war, we won victory in rocket speed. But the journey towards that war was 23 year long and very painful.
You won rapidly coz of indira gandhi and her helping training mukti bahini @hakunamatata3935
Bangladesh's independence did not come overnight, it was the struggles of Bangladeshis' life and death issues. No country in the world has ever been able to become independent without the help of a friendly country. Bangladesh is eternally grateful for India's political and military support in Bangladesh's independence war in 1971. (A member of Mukti-Bahini 1971).🔴
I'm happy atleast after all this struggle Bangladesh is and will be success story for many ..... I read that around 2million Bangladeshis were killed in fhat war....is that number true or its Indian propoganda to defame pakistan
Creation of Pakistan was a British plan muslims were just played like a pawn through jinnah and gandhi both british educated lawyers
@pk dl Thank you very much.🙏
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 No, nothing is Indian propaganda, it was the true story about the Bangladesh independence war. Pakistan army killed 3 million people and reaped 4 hundred thousand women. 26th March 1971 was the first-mid night of the operation name was a searchlight. The New York Times said first midnight Pakistan army killed more than 120,000 innocent people who were sleeping the outside the road and attacked all police stations and Dhaka university. Bangladesh every year 26th March observed independence day. Bangladesh would not have become independent If India had not intervened. 🙏
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Impressed with the knowledge of host and the straight forwardness of the guest. Keep it up. What a lesson in history. A must watch for students of history.
Don’t know about Pakistan history but I found him the smartest person on economy I have heard yet in Pakistan. Hope to hear him for round two on economic ideas. Economics is the most fascinating topic for me. 😊
@Kraken Thunder just my understanding. As I said. It could be very limited and I could be completely wrong.
Atif main is also good on Pakistan economy
@@meetadi4u yea he had also a podcast
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Well, 50 years later see where’s Bangladesh and where’s Pakistan, they’re on the brink of destruction, when your intentions aren’t good, you’re bound to pay one way or the other! As an Indian I’m proud of our Government to have helped and aided in the creation of Bangladesh who’s an ally and great for textile industry in India 🇮🇳 ❤
The distance between Pakistan and Bangladesh were too vast.our leadership removed the. S so what was meant to be at Partition came through later.mrs ghazanfar
Ref to Dr Moeed Pirzada Vlog.thanks
@@ghazanfarhussain5032 Bhai tum kitne bade Wale chutiye ho
True.our intentions may not be obvious.
Creator of the worlds knows all our intentions ❤️ all the time 🙏 mrs ghazanfar thanks
We stretched as a huge sub-continent, Now are small countries.unity is strength.
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Have not heard a better & more honest discussion on affairs of Pak by Pak intellectuals!
Looking forward for more such vlogs by same host & guest! 👍👍
Reading comments reminds me of Confucius' saying: When a sage point towards the moon ignorant people stare at his fingertip.
Maza aa gaya parh k.
If something is problematic it needs to be pointed out. It's not disrespectful to point out mistakes in someone's articulation.
Too bad the 'sage' wasn't around to show the moon to the sheeples 75 years ago
This is one of the most brief talk I've ever heard on Bhutto, economics and military relationship. Cleared all my concepts that why Bhutto failed and the actual reasons behind fall of Dhaka.
I live in a state called Odisha, which does not have a border with Bangladesh but is very close to it. My grandfather was administrator of a refugee camp, which was funded 40% by govt and 60% on donations. They always had refugees coming from Bangladesh, since 1950 (then East Pakistan). The refugees were mostly Hindus, Christians and Shia Muslims, escaping mobs and riots. But in the late 1968s, the numbers started rising, this time even Sunnis started coming with the others. In 1971, the number peaked. Odisha is a coastal state, so most of the refugees came by boat. Everyday, fishermen would pull boats filled with starving people, that they used to find in the seas. My grandfather was a doctor, so he used to treat the refugees who needed help. In 1971, refugees used to arrive with a lot of injuries. Almost all of them were tortured, men women and children everyone. Some of the stories were harrowing. There's the story of two sisters, one 16 years old and the other 14 years old which sends shudders down my spine even now when I think about it. My father was just a boy back then and he used to help my grandfather. The year 1970 left a permanent mark on him.
Today, most of them have settled in India. They have taken citizenship. Some of them have gone back to Bangladesh. My father was recently invited to the wedding of the grandson of one of the refugees. I accompanied him to a city called Kuakata in Bangladesh. It felt good to see those people smiling, even though I had never seen them before.
Just thought you might be interested in a small story. Cheers🤍
@@orion7326 soul breaking pain. Don't know how to heal? The trauma of 'operation Searchlight ' committed by Pakistan Army is now grounded in our collective unconscious . Our conscience trying to escape the responsibility to release itself. But now we understand it's right to face it. Someday by being powerful we will bring down Pakistan Army under the trial of any tribunal for their war crimes. We owe to history.
@@arifhossainrubel4791 Bangladesh is already doing quite well on it's own, which is a great thing in itself. I have been there only once, but the things I saw impressed me quite a lot. Now you guys have got a metro as well. But I have to say, the drivers are scary😅, very similar to the Tamil drivers in India. I travelled a few times by bus and each time I had to keep reminding myself that the driver is an expert, nothing is going to happen to me and i will be okay😅. The roads were quite nice though. And the people were lovely. I only speak a little bit of Bangla but they were very nice. They also were quite funny, which was great because I like people who can laugh and so, I had a wonderful time.
I must admit, the way you guys cook fish is incredible. Very tasty. I have borrowed some recipes and tried to recreate them, with limited success.🤣
The way I see it, Bangladesh's prosperity is its best revenge. Today, Pakistan is imploding but Bangladesh is doing quite well. Pakistan is going in reverse, while Bangladesh is cruising on the sixth gear.
No matter what, I will always have a soft spot for Bangladesh. And I think most Indians already have a very soft spot for Bangladesh. And it makes me feel good to see Bangladesh succeed and go ahead. 🇧🇩❤️
Wow! what an interview. Shezad, you almost fooled me into not watching by labelling Mr Nazar as an "investment banker". Actually, his view of the events leading to the creation of Bangladesh was the most fascinating. This interview "hits it out of the park", as they say. Congratulations (once again)!
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If you want to learn about emerging markets, Yousaf Nazar is the real guru to listen and watch. He utters every word with impeccable and unimpeachable fact.
A remarkable and fascinating interview and exchange between Shehzad and Mr Nazar. Lucid and informative, was a treat to watch and absorb. Kudos!
pakistanis will continue talking till the country disappear.they will not do anything.they are ruled by chowkidars.
One of the best podcasts to date on this channel! Highly intellectual, factual and unbiased account of our history. What I loved was the honesty of the discussion.
On top of that Shezad himself was so looking forward to the show, he shaved for it! matlab puppo bacha bun kar podcast host kya hai! Kya baat hai!
My kudos to Shehzad and to this amazing guest for such a wonderful and a high-bandwidth conversation.
Seeing this from outside of PK - it is of immense relief to see that there are at least a few people who are not deluded about PK and the magnitude of the problems that it faces. So, Kudos!!! And my Best wishes for more such wonderful shows and discussions. 🙏
I think you mean magnitude, not magnanimity. Magnanimity = generosity.
@@shahrukh877 - You are right!!! Now stands corrected.
@@ThePakistanExperience Pathan dictator yahya Khan also responsible
And this attitude is very rare to find in respective across the border from India. I equally like, admire and respect Indians and Pakistanis as we all are a family of humanity.
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The genocide was especially targeted towards Hindus. Some of the most horrific massacres include that in Ramana Kali temple in Dhaka on March 27, 1971. Pak Army simply entered the temple, killed all the devotees present including the priest and then destroyed the temple.
A community is blessed if it has brave Broadcasters/ Journalists /Teachers /Preachers who look for TRUTH and express it without fear especially in the face of any consequential FASCISM!
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The same thing goes for West Pakistani leaders like Yahia, Bhutto, Ayub or whoever. They were also NOT soul spokes person of entire Pakistan. They were for only West Pakistan, whereas Sheikh Mujib was for East one.
Equal=Equal.
after a long time i have come across an intelligent and articulated pakistani.
Jinnah declared Urdu as the state language in 1948, ignoring Bengali. There was a strong reaction in East Bengal.
He also dismissed the democratically elected government of Badshah Khan. He started the tradition of soldiers dressed as trials being sent to Kashmir which was repeated in 1965 and 1999.
Hindus were pushed out of Karachi (though Sind was not partitioned) by Liaqat Ali to make room for Mohajirs. What happened to 24% Hindus that were in Pakistan in 1947. You think that did not hurt educational infrastructure and trade competitiveness.
And Jinnah made that declaration in English as he did not know Urdu.
Yes, sir! That may also have driven a knife between West & East Pakistan during those days!
Good wishes to Pakistan!
The guest Mr. Shaukat is truly, amazingly intelligent and frank person!!!
Brilliant lesson in history & economy! Loved it!
In Feb.72 Bhutto visited Dacca for talks with Mujib.
یار بہت خوبصورت پروگرام
Eye opening facts which are hidden from peoples..
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What a good scholar - reminds me of Bassin taken in many ways as he is fiercely independent and note institution sanctioned
Shehzad BHai thank you so much for extremely knowledgeable and informative discussions. Thank you so so much.
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What an astonishing intellect this man is.
What a podcast with a remarkable personality Yousef Nazar
25:00 Sir. India does not have a federal system. We are not a loose association of states like Pakistan or the USA.
We were united under the central government, we drafted a constitution and in the 50s, we were reorganised as states based on linguistic lines.
But the central government has the power to redraft the state. Many cases of Indian states being bifurcated or trifurcated for administrative reasons exists.
The most recent example is the southern state of Andhra, divided into Andhra and Telangana; the original Andhra state was organised in the 50s and had parts of Madras Province, Hyderabad, Mysore state and other provinces all in it.
Loved calmness of guest. Hope we can hear more intellectual like him.
Ppl like u guys should be more in Pakistan and also they should listen this more.. I feel intellectual Pakistani are heard more in India than Pakistan which doesn’t help much for them!!
One thing I would like to salute you shehzad...your calmness , politeness and the way to conduct a podcast. Great work.
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Remember he is not your friend..you are supporting this channel and keeping him afloat,but for that he would not survive.However good he maybe…he is aPakistani. And he can change only to an extent.Anna wakt inpe Zaya na karo..
Great Podcast! Please keep up with this.
Yousuf Nasar sb thank you for sharing your experience
Mass Burning of villages by the Pak Army led to the exodus of helpless Benglis. (Siddiq Salik, Witness to Surrender, Chapter 10)
Also the rape of lakhs of Bengali women and the murder of lakhs of the men... Read the "Blood Telegram", a book on the atrocities by a western author.
Most of the villages were hindu dominated.
Many villages were burned down and residents were killed mercilessly and today many corpses are found in undermining in Dhaka.
It's a hindu genocide not a bengali genocide.
Pak army recruited Jamaat-e-Islami who thought it was holy duty to eradicate hindus. It all comes back to the sunnat of papa momo and the violence within it
I am a Pakistani.... And the only issue with Pakistan before 1971 and right now is that we are hostage to our military establishment. I always felt ashamed that our military killed our bangali brothers but now I don't feel ashamed... Because it were not the common Pakistanis who did that. Love to all my bangali brothers from Lahore.
Good that if you are not ashamed of your Army's and political leaders role in Bengali genocide. Let me tell you something, more than lacs of momins were borned after the Pak Armys raping spree, ordered by Bhutto and Army generals. So, these Pakistani momins would be around 40-50 years old.
thank you waqas, i was 17 years old , i have seen all the atrocities of pak soldiers, me amd my family will never forgive them till the day of hashre.
@@smilefaceofbengal The one leader who has actually challenged this unholy regime is in danger right now. Please pray for Imran Khan... He is our hope to break these shackles.
@pk dl Yes and you are liberated by your hate. Don't you find any reason for minding your own business?
But it was common Pakistanis who forcibly convert Hindu girls. Sind was not partitioned. Yet what happened to Hindus who were 51% of Karachi population in 1947? That was done by ordinary Pakistanis. Ordinary Pakistanis are responsible for genocide of Kashmiri Pandits because they put money in jihad boxes.
Excellent analysis....and discussion. As a Pakistan Watcher its plethora of information.
Very good discussion…..finally two educated people talking about Pakistan’s history honestly and with facts.
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This is the best ever Pakistani podcast I have ever watched. Both host and guest are too knowledgeable and well articulated.
Citizenship lelo gale laga lenge tumhe.😊😂
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Wonderful discussion and the man clearly shows his expertise in economics
What a wonderful discussion. I listened to it along with my work and very subtle points were made. More such talks please- Love from the US
I am loving the every moment of the podcast.
This is a very honest interview. We hear about the coming together of Pakistan as the Sindh Assembly, the Punjab Assembly and the Bengal Assembly voted in the Muslim League, and as it won a referendum in the Frontier Province. We also hear, a little later, that Kalat was annexed.
All these are well known to students of history.
For a knowledgeable Pakistani to say this openly is a pleasant shock.
However his leaning towards Bhutto distorts the whole episode.
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A objective , highly informative and well researched prodcast . Thank you yousuf Nazar for bringing these essential facts on record and educating us, particularly the new generation who know nothing about that tragic period in our history. There were so many falsehoods and propaganda cycled on this issue. TI
What a interesting speaker,call him over again please
Very rarely does an interview put things in proper perspective on every topic that it takes up. Absolutely fantastic Yousuf Sb!!
Thank you Shehzad for inviting him, one of the best interview about history and economy…! Very knowledgeable
Very thought provoking discussion.Thank you Shahzad for arranging such a useful debate.
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Yes Delivery of services has improved big time in India. Infra improved, power and Internet is great. Stable strong govt makes thing possible
Vote modi again in 2024
Stable government of congress (3 people from same family) between 1947 and 1991 - did it help?
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What a super show. Free public auction of land. Distribution of public land to generals and bureaucrats at dirt cheap is a central issue.
Another fact must be mentioned here Sk. MUJIB SAAB was arrested by PAK army 25th of February 1971 and taken to Pakistan prison for almost a year, he was completely oblivious of what was going on behind his back
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At 2:24 isn't that an Error?
Md. Ali Jinnah never declared Bengali as a State Language but he declared Urdu as a State Language while standing amongst people of the then East Pakistan.
I think many people underestimate a Bengali's love for his Mother Tongue.
That was a slip of tongue error. He clearly meant Urdu not Bengali.
A courageous man indeed! Called a spade a spade.
From the inception of Pakistan, Bengalis of East Pakistan had faced discrimination. Islam teaches the equality among all human beings as well as fraternity and sorority among all Muslims. We, Bengalis, despite being the majority of the population of Pakistan as well as despite being a Muslim majority, were neither being treated as brothers/sisters nor being treated as equal. West Pakistan used to look down upon Bengalis because of our darker skin tone. Bengalis were NOT given equal opportunity to good education and respectable jobs, despite having intelligence and talents. Furthermore, resources of East Pakistan were being used for the development of West Pakistan and our people used to starve. On 1970, a cyclone hit in the coastal areas of East Pakistan, causing a lot of casualties. Pakistan Government didn’t bother. That’s the time we’ve realized that we need a leader from our own community. In the beginning of 1971, there was an election and Sheikh Mujibur Rahman won the maximum votes. West Pakistan couldn’t digest the fact that a Bengali (someone from an inferior race) would rule them. Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was arrested, but was released later. On that moment, the whole Bengali nation felt the need of becoming an independent nation. So the war began. From the night of March 25, 1971, Yahya Khan and Tikka Khan pounced upon unarmed Bengalis in the name of “Operation Searchlight” and started killing our innocent people as well as picking up our women for rape. During those days, Pakistan Army proudly declared in the newspaper, “We will leave a nation of bastards and idiots.” About three million (3,000,000) Bengalis were being killed mercilessly (including our bright professionals) and two lakh (200,000) Bengali women were being raped repeatedly in the concentration camp by Pakistan Army and their local collaborators (Razakars). Women, who were being raped, got pregnant. Many women terminated their pregnancy. Those who couldn’t, delivered babies and abandoned them. These abandoned kids were given away for the adoption. Most of those babies were adopted by foreigners and were taken away to foreign countries. Others were adopted by our local people.
Probably the best podcast I've heard in a very long time... we all talk about such facts behind closed doors, but never say out loud! Keep it up Bhai :)
Excellent analysis/program, keep it up.
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I believe that the massacre of innocent Bengalis will always haunt Pakistan s karma ! It’s a very very disgraceful moment in world history, what their “professional” military did to its own citizens !
Midway through the podcast I realised that independence of Pakistan and Bangladesh is seen mostly as partition from India, hence the heroes are Jinnah, Iqbal etc in Pakistan, Mujeeb, Soharawardi etc in Bangladesh. This has the effect of dare I say, ignorance about the British Raj and missing historical perspective about those 200 years. So up until 1947, what Pakistan, Bangladesh memorize is history of Muslim league, which is just the last chapter of the whole saga of colonization of India.
In Indian history books about that era, they start from the East India company, go through the many wars between the British and the Indian kingdoms, then rise of Congress and the many colors of resistance against the British, then very late in the books the Muslim league arrives and whatever happens next is seen in India somewhat through lens of the Congress (which isn't the best way but still informative).
I believe it's a gigantic wealth of historical knowledge that Pakistan and Bangladesh are missing out on. There are countless heroes to be remembered by both and many crucial incidents to be known. There are tons of stories of individuals that are awe inspiring and make you appreciate what happened to this country.
Agree. Another point especially regarding partition, especially Punjab is, that while Indians looks at partition as a sad event that divided the country, and that’s what is taught to us, and you will see Indian punjabis lamenting the event, on the Pakistani side it is a celebrated event. For them it was creation of their nation and I have rarely seen any Punjabi Pakistani even those who suffered in 47, talking about it with sadness. That’s something that I only realized through you tube videos! A very different perspective!
Also, they are missing out on this knowledge because their historybooks are designed to do that! To justify the two nation theory down and religious narrative behind creating Pakistan.
Shahzad. Is it possible that someday you invite a common person/ Pakistani and talk about his perspective. It feels like your podcast is also captured by “Elites”
Thank you so much Shahzad for these amazing podcasts!!
I am sad bangladeshi fight fore freedom more than three times
1. Britishers to indian ------🇮🇳
2. Indians to pakistani-------🇵🇰
3. Pakistani to bengali ------🇧🇩
Love you bangla brother from your motherland india .😍😍
Joy hind, joy bangla ,Joy pakistan
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@Amay b Bro don't share hate .Hindu muslim se bahar hoker bhi socha ja sakta he .Akhand bharat ke liye dilo ko jodna he ek dusre ke naa ki sirf zamin ke tukdo ko iski sabse badi misaal he germany .
@Amay b bro plz iss mindsat se niklo jahaan sui kaam aati he wahaa talwar kabhi nhi aa sakti he muslim ke sath india me bhi bahut incident hue he. isi ko leker wo hame blame karte he or hum unhe hate me kuch nhi rakha he .😍😍
Lots of love from Bangladesh 💖💖🇧🇩
@@hakunamatata3935 Hami tumako bhalo bhashi 😍😍
@@premchoudhary1224 aww that's so sweet 😊💖💖💖🤗
Geographical distance was not reason of separation of east pakistan. East Pakistan not separated in war 1965 but why separated in war 1971? USA Britain and China supported Pakistan. Why stopped war in west Pakistan border and Gen Niazi surrendered so easily in short time war of 13 days only?
Bangladesh hasn't forgotten 1971.
One of the most compelling question for Pakistan's Army expenditure at 59:30. "With human security or territorial security, which country is more secure, Pakistan or Bangladesh?".
Hands down this is by far the best podcast i have heard for quite some time now !!! Kudos !!
5:08 it was not rehman but bhutto who said that you see that side i will see west side. Bhutto didnt want to concede power to rehman
Book recommendations by Mr. Yousuf Nazar: 1) Gambling on Development by Stefan Dercon 2) The Alchemy of Finance by George Soros. I have read the latter and it's a great book. I will read the earlier one. I love your conversation style and wisdom & experience of Mr. Nazar.
Let me set the record straight in 1972 India did Attack west Pakistan and we lost lot of land in west and the biggest loss was when Zulfiquar Ali Butto lost Kashmir when Indra Gandhi forced Butto to sign the agreement that Kashmir is no more a international dispute , only it’s a bilateral issue which we will try to solve among ourselves, and we are not going to raise this dispute on any international forum also land which was captured from Pakistan claiming that this is our land rather whole of Kashmir is India , only they return west Pakistan captured land and solders prisoners any way I rember it was a sad and black day, I saw lot of people crying
Dear Shehzad, would you please manage to provide English subtitle of this podcast ? As I am from Bangladesh, My understanding of Urdu is very minimal. I have found it a very objective and eloquent discussion.
No wonder you seceded
@@himanshusrivastava2025 I didn't ask for anything from your retarded mind & soul. I know very well about the secession and that's not my concern here. It's about something else.
@@himanshusrivastava2025 LOL same problems persisting
I find it strange that Pakistanis make a hue and cry over Bangladesh. They should know that it was never supposed to happen. Two very distinct ethnicities and cultures from two opposite corners of United india, separated by a 1000 kms, were never to be together. Its actually a blessing in disguise for both pakistan and Bangladesh that they both got away from each other.
Not at all. Whole muslim ummah is one. Does not matter how much the distance is. Culture is different everywhere. Sindh are different than panjabis, kashmiris are different than panjabis.
@Shehzad the subscriptions on your channel are criminally low! I can't believe how you've managed to bring heavy weights to your channel and ask them incredible questions yet the message doesn't reach the masses. It's a crying shame. With incredibly short attention spans of viewers and a cut-throat competition for content creation and viewer retention, maybe try slicing your interviews into 5 mins snippets? Like Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson?
Keep up the good work mate.
Agreed. I too felt same.
Shehzad bhai.. love from India.. Beautiful channle.. Awesome depth .. In every aspects...
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Bhutto did not use the phrase "Tangein tor doon ga". What he said was "we will have no leg to stand on" if agreement is not reached on the Constitution.
kaha tha ya bhutto ny bikul kaha tha.. prove chahiy to send kr dayta hon
This was the headline of his own Newspaper I.e. Missawat whose editor was Hanif Ramay
one of the best interview I have heard on Pakistan affairs. More such discussions please.
Can you kindly link the articles discussed in your podcasts, please? would be greatful
Far better than Ayesha Jalal. Although don't agree with the guest entirely. Especially about Mujib insisting Yahia to postpone assembly and declare Marshal law by 25th March 1971. Not logical. Cause it was entirely Yahia's call. And Mujib was on the position of either separation or being the PM. But the basic fact ever uttered by any Pakistani which is 'Operation Searchlight ' was the principal reason and how brutally extreme it was. But Bhutto knew it from the beginning.
@@ThePakistanExperience the so-called evidence provided by Mr. Nazar collected by army buerocracy. Why should we believe in them? Rather you tell me something. Who were the beneficiary of postponing assembly? Obviously Pak Army and Bhutto. Not Mujib. Because assembly was badly needed for him to make six points constitutional. Timeline pe nahi logic se baat Kar. Usual hopeless Pakistani always living in conspiracy theory.
@@arifhossainrubel4791 Exactly what I was thinking.
Definitely a very interesting episode. The gentleman is very knowledgable. Thank you. Best wishes from Bangalore, India.
In conclusion what we need to do:
1)Economic reform
2)Bureaucratic reforms
3)Educational reforms
4)Civil-Military inter reform
5)Judicial reform
6)Police reforms
7)Election reforms
8)Land reform
9)Human development
10)Electricity reform
Am I right?
Anything else to add ?
None of that is possible in current Pakistan. Rather whatever is there might go down further.
If I may, what we lack is the will to reform.
@@ayeshazubair5630 - and the "we" in question in your comment above - are NOT the people of PK, imho - but the ruling elite who are really screwing PK and taking it to hell for their petty interests. Really, really Sad!!! And Unfortunate. 😞
Yes, just do religious reforms and all other reforms would be automatically taken care off.
@@arun1971sharma it is exactly religious reform which has been already done which has saved pakistan from becoming a failed state even though governance is close zero.
This is Islam not Hinduism
I was looking forward to gather information on history but after listening first 40 mins of podcast..im now fan of PPP and I’m officially joining PPP..thanks for changing my views about PPP..PPP is one of the best political party in the world
PS: this is what happened after listening 40 mins
Only sane party with clear agenda
Regarding Musharraf time:
Yes foreign aid was a factor
But, exports, remittances & taxes increased
Maybe because there was political stability at that time
@@dancingcar8974 political stability is made and broken on purpose in pakistan politica
The constituent assembly was first called on the 27th of February, 1971. However, Yahya Khan inexplicably postponed it without giving a new date, triggering riots all over East Pakistan. Yahya was said to be influenced by Bhutto's rhetoric on "breaking the legs" of anyone who went to Dacca.
Thats how a podcast should be done. Many new podcaster dont let the guest speak, but you did an excellent job. Keep up the good work.♥️
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You are absolutely right...
Who are they taking about @17:41
I am unable to make out the name, can someone please clarify?
I stand corrected on so many points. AAP ki podcast dekh kar khud ko jahil samajhnay lag jaata Hun. Great learning!
Very good and honest analysis, thanks both of you
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To elaborate on the 1943 Bengal Famine, it was an artificial fanime created by the British that extracted food sources for the people of Britain and its army during WW2.
i am sure u did not read it in Pakistan, since you people read manufactured n false n concocted history,probably you heard Shashi Tharoor's speech at Oxford union🤲🤣
@@prashantchachadi6896 troll karne ka tamij hota he....tarika hota he
Excellent content. Enlightening! 🌻
Excellent show. very informative , and yes the journalists who report from the field stay anonymous and lose their lives even.
It is the structure of the economy and not corruption per se. He points to all the ills of the economy but not how to fix them. BTW I agree with most of the stuff he says. Living abroad like me provides one a unique perspective.
The problem with Pakistan is the well-meaning intellectuals have to spend so much time explaining the history and past and who is responsible that not much time remains to worry about the future! Unfortunate!
The guest already suggested the next steps. Not sure if you heard it. The hardest part is NOT knowing what to do - but to actually doing / implementing it. That is because it involves the elites of PK working collaboratively and sacrificing their personal self-interests in the interest of PK. And that we can bet that the elites of PK are highly unlikely to that. (The guest said that he does not see that happening in his lifetime.) For them - it is not about doing what is good for PK - but what is there in it for me. The guest said all that in the Podcast if you heard it.
Shehzad and Yousuf Nazar Sahab, thank you for a discussion that told Pakistan's side of the story. I was nearing the end of my 'Masters' program at Calcutta University when the war in East Bengal ended on 16-Dec-1971. Residents in and around Calcutta were lucky; we had a ringside view.
Plot allotment in Pakistan has also thrown up a little spoken of problem -- concurrently shrinking agricultural and horticultural land. Productive fruit orchards and cropping areas have been compromised to accommodate plotting.
According to 2018 figures, Pakistan's crop yield dropped to among the world's lowest levels; it's agricultural productivity slid below 50%; this forced Pakistan to close the gap by importing such food items instead.
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But weren’t Bengal then the majority portion of Pakistan . Yes , Mujib had some regional rhetorics upon which he managed to win the elections but you can't hold him back saying a mere regional representative for those. Even now Punjub province plays a vital role in any election of Pakistan , they say who ever wins Punjab wins Pakistan & forms government . Would you also then like to say now Punjub doesn’t represent the whole country those who win from punjub don’t represent the Pakistan?
Finally i heard some sensible discussion coming out of Pakistan else I thought its all about makreet,khitta,pakistan ka matlab kya la illa il illah,behrooni saazish ,number 1 agency,islamic bomb & the most important hindoo baniya
20 mins in the podcast and i am disappointed by how shehzad is just letting him paint a narrative without any probing questions. did bhutto not say "east Pakistan is saved" after returning back to west Pakistan after the start of the military operation? he certainly was not an innocent bystander as yousuf nazar sahab is painting him to be.
I was also thinking the same thing. Bhutto landed in pakistan after the operation began and said ' By the grace of God ,pakistan is saved' . He wasnt a bystander but a cheerleader of genocide at least.
In a Podcast, you have to listen to the other person. Everyone's opinion matters, you don't have to correct them. Maybe some other guest in future might present a different picture and then the audience can decide what's suits them.
@@Shahzebfaheem listening to an opinion is fine. but when someone is denying or ignoring straight up facts, they need to be challenged, especially when talking about a massive historical event.
Shehzad is PPP apologist. So obviously they will absolve Bhutto. They are forgetting “Hum idhar tum udhar”
@@smalam64 umm they literally spent like a good 20 minutes on "hum idhar tum udhar". I suggest listening to the podcast before saying anything
Every Pakistani Should must watch this podcast
Surprisingly no one in Pakistan talks about surrender of 93000 Pakistani solders in detail ..😂
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We still have journalist who toe the same line as of pre 1971. Today Baluchies and Sindhis are treated in the same manner as were bengalies pre 1971. They don't want separation but respect, fair and equal treatment.
If Pakistan will treat the minorities of Muslim community with respect and equal rights then half of the problem will be solved there .
Time stamps?
The question is not why Mr Jinnah's ambulance broke down or why it took two hours to arrange a replacement.
The question is why the father of the nation was sent to internal exile on a God forsaken place like Ziarat.
I don’t think petrol was finished
He passed away in fishy circumstances
So was his sister.
Please don't succumb to simplistic logic.
Mr Jinnah was In the last stages of tuberculosis and his personal doctor said that his lungs were like paper. He was living on borrowed time.
He was sent to Ziarat in good faith to gain a few days of his life.
Even if the ambulance incident had not happened he would have died very soon.
@@mumtazmalik1298 true but house arrest of her sister after that made people suspicious.
@@mumtazmalik1298 yes we should have good faith and believe what we have been told
But the problem is this is a recurring problem
I think we as a nation shouldn’t be so naive
Shahzad you are one of the heros unearthing pakistan history. True reflection of untold reality