FYI only the LVT(A)s are armored and that armor is only 0.25" (hull) & 0.5" (Turret if equipped). The LTV(A)-2s (0.5" on the cab 0.25 hull) were only used by the US Army. All the others are mild steel so they would be classed as unarmored soft skinned vehicles. Technically the LVT(A) 1 & 4 and LVT would be in separate commands. The LVT(A)-4 was a replacement for the LVT(A)-1s it would be unlikely for both to be at Saipan together. All LVTs were ordered not to move off the beach as they were for support for the landing itself and not made for assaulting inland. Also their tracks were optimized for propelling the vehicle in the water and were easily damaged when moving off the sandy beaches.
Hi JDG, the inclusion of the vehicles and the types are based on the info in ibiblio and in the book ‘Saipan’ by James H Hallas: (ISBN: 9780811738439). There are also photos of both the 37mm and 75mm versions of the 'LVT tanks' being used in Saipan (in the same photo iirc) and Saipan was the first time the armoured LVTs were used (including the LVT-4). The PSC has stats for both the softskin and the armoured versions of the LVT-2s. They may well have been in separate commands to start with but having crossed a reef and driven through a preregistered bombardment they often ended up on the wrong beach. The LVTs were ordered to reach the O-1 line which was 700m in at the foot of the ridge on day 1. As it happens they struggled to get off the beach but some did make it to the 300 yard mark. It's all explained in the PSC itself.
Tabletop CP and rightfully so. Not only has the round penetrated and is now ricocheting about inside you have debris and spawl flying around (even in an open topped AFV)
Looking forward to the campaign :) I can't help but nitpick, but Hiro, as in Hiro Tanaka, is pronounced the way we would say the word 'hero', rather than 'high-ro'. Also, the guy from Takamatsu, nice, I used to live there :)
I haven’t looked at the support list for this scenario but I’m assuming the LVTs come with Jr Leaders. So the question of who’s in command I believe is answered by that rule that says infantry leaders don’t command armor. (Ie your senior leader can’t order tanks around). Leaderless vehicles get commanded by the leaders they carry but I don’t know about independently commanded ones. And marines are all the same force so maybe Padilla could tell Joe LVT what to do? Lol
Chain of command seems like a very convoluted set of rules. There even seems to be some confusion on the part of you guys at times. Was interesting to watch, though. Keep up the good work.
FYI only the LVT(A)s are armored and that armor is only 0.25" (hull) & 0.5" (Turret if equipped). The LTV(A)-2s (0.5" on the cab 0.25 hull) were only used by the US Army. All the others are mild steel so they would be classed as unarmored soft skinned vehicles. Technically the LVT(A) 1 & 4 and LVT would be in separate commands. The LVT(A)-4 was a replacement for the LVT(A)-1s it would be unlikely for both to be at Saipan together. All LVTs were ordered not to move off the beach as they were for support for the landing itself and not made for assaulting inland. Also their tracks were optimized for propelling the vehicle in the water and were easily damaged when moving off the sandy beaches.
Hi JDG, the inclusion of the vehicles and the types are based on the info in ibiblio and in the book ‘Saipan’ by James H Hallas:
(ISBN: 9780811738439). There are also photos of both the 37mm and 75mm versions of the 'LVT tanks' being used in Saipan (in the same photo iirc) and Saipan was the first time the armoured LVTs were used (including the LVT-4). The PSC has stats for both the softskin and the armoured versions of the LVT-2s. They may well have been in separate commands to start with but having crossed a reef and driven through a preregistered bombardment they often ended up on the wrong beach. The LVTs were ordered to reach the O-1 line which was 700m in at the foot of the ridge on day 1. As it happens they struggled to get off the beach but some did make it to the 300 yard mark. It's all explained in the PSC itself.
Please keep showing the patrol phase, it was great to see this play out 👍 this is going to be a good campaign, great change of pace
I like watching the patrol phase. It would be a great addition to Bolt Action and Flames of War.
I’ve been watching for awhile and I finally got my own bolt action stuff. It’s been lots of fun, keep up the good work
Great video guys, really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work here and on the FB group.
Very cool to watch
Cool battle report. Really fun to watch.
Added a bookmark so I can go directly to the CoC youtube channel.
Did y’all end up figuring out what level of cover the men in the LVTs officially have?
Texas Bolt Action I’m pretty sure passengers are classed as ‘in open’.
Texas Bolt Action I agree with Scott in the open. If a round penetrates they are screwed
Tabletop CP and rightfully so. Not only has the round penetrated and is now ricocheting about inside you have debris and spawl flying around (even in an open topped AFV)
Looking forward to the campaign :) I can't help but nitpick, but Hiro, as in Hiro Tanaka, is pronounced the way we would say the word 'hero', rather than 'high-ro'.
Also, the guy from Takamatsu, nice, I used to live there :)
GamenRyder gotcha! I will remember that.
thank you
Ooo. Was contemplating a landing scenario for Walcheren!
Machination Studio go for it! It’s a lot of fun
Awesome as always. Did I hear Errol Brown making an appearance?
At 34.27 you fire the 20mm at the LVT 37mm but simply rolled for penetration. Did you roll to actually hit first?
Check Your Leader TV Yrah we did. But really realize it later and none of the dice were 5’s so the dice gods sorted it out
Tabletop CP lol,... yeah. I saw that.
Next time I’ll not make comments until the END of the video 😆
Check Your Leader TV lol it’s all good. No problem making comments as they happen. Otherwise you may forget.
I haven’t looked at the support list for this scenario but I’m assuming the LVTs come with Jr Leaders. So the question of who’s in command I believe is answered by that rule that says infantry leaders don’t command armor. (Ie your senior leader can’t order tanks around).
Leaderless vehicles get commanded by the leaders they carry but I don’t know about independently commanded ones.
And marines are all the same force so maybe Padilla could tell Joe LVT what to do? Lol
Brett Lynam the LVTs actually come with no leaders. At least the transport version. I think the other versions do though.
APCs are covered in sections 11.2.1 and 11.3 in the main rules. Transports (softskins) are treated differently.
The patrons are writing the leader bios?
Not these. I generated these from the book. But they could if they wanted to
Chain of command seems like a very convoluted set of rules. There even seems to be some confusion on the part of you guys at times. Was interesting to watch, though. Keep up the good work.
Where did you get you board
Jacob Gonthier we made it out of an 8x4 sheet of plywood.
this looks awesome, what game is this?
Kimo Savage chain of Command. This is a campaign for that game
RE ROLL YOUR 1s ANDRE!!!
But Travis never does!
Andre Leineke
I know,... so now is the time to drive home the advantage Devil Dog!!!! SEMPER FI!