Destiny Reacts to MrGirl Talking to Richard Spencer on Killstream
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Gott Damn
sus
Epic
I dont get it
@@coolcat1530 that's a bit sussy
1:35:50
MrGirl: "We are all monsters"
Richard: "Well that's true, I am a monster"
* Akward laugh *
MrGirl: "So am I"
* Intense psychotic stare *
noticed the same
he chose those words carefully. He wants someone to reassure him that his wrongs are ok, and that we all have wrongs. but that his disgusting wrongs are just normal stuff.
Mr. Girl: "Your David Pakman interview."
Spencer: "I remember it."
Mr. Girl: "He was a dick."
Spencer: "I don't remember it that way."
Mr. Girl: "He was a dick."
Spencer: "I don't recall it being the worst."
Mr. Girl: "He was a dick."
Spencer: "I don't think he was a dick."
Mr. Girl: "The Watchmen?"
Spencer: "Jews."
best interview ever
Its interesting to see how mr girl treats him with more respect than he did with Lauren southern. I bet she was big mad when she watched this haha
Mr.Girl has learned a lot after the Southern interview. Destiny almost coached him after that one which he seems to have applied on this interview.
@@slutbunwallah Yeah I saw when they talked about it too. But I kind of almost wonder if mr girl subconsciously treats woman differently from men, because I mr girl said in that talk with destiny he wasnt really going to change much about going with what he feels. He got way more angry at lauren for her boat thing than spencers unhinged super villain rant. & he was way less mad when he started talking about the "context" than when Lauren did. One thing I think for sure is that hes a little more aggressive in an argument when it's a girl, & I think its subconscious for him. I dont think he realizes it himself or that its intentional. I'd probably do the opposite of that, I'd probably be more softer spoken with woman & more aggressive with men if I had to guess
Richard Spencer is a hundred times more good faith than Lauren Southern.
@@lmesen1873 Unironically true.
@@frankmarano1118 so you have one data point, with a stated opposite explanation, yet you’re fully in on assuming he’s sexist
You missed the part in the Q&A section where Richard Spencer unironically says "What good has ever come from peace?" So fucking hilarious. He's like a cartoon villain.
Your mom asks me to roleplay for her as a cartoon villian
@@briano9397 Don't talk about my mom like that! 😡 I am a Destiny fan so I am a sociopath who is into incest
@@neetpride5919 *plankton meme* CORRECT!
I mean he is sorta right from a technological and advancement point of view
@@p0k3mn1 spoken like a child who's only exposure to violence was COD. Peace is better than war, full stop.
maybe you wont be able to unsee that Richard Spencer looks like Buzz Lightyear, but maybe you will
When he says he loved all the villains growing up and enjoyed songs about sin, he reminds me of Megamind.
The Green Knight was great! I hope richard spencer enjoys it
Hey, I just want to let you know that this channel is amazing and exactly what Last Night On Destiny should've been. Just relevant Destiny content that won't get too many views on the main channel. Kinda like The Vaush Pit. Keep up the good work 👍
Hundred percent on the LNOD point
Toxic
Late night on destiny has been surpassed, intellectually.
What happened to the other one?
@@Corndog1 Bestiny? Idk. I think it's still technically running, August hasn't found good enough content for it in a while.
My favourite bit was the Bryan Singer bit, thats why i like Mr Girl.... hilarious
36:25 very true Ron Paul Revolution, good times.
This is not the worst timeline, but it is the most bizarre.
The only good interview with mr girl and destiny's dismissive of it, disppointing.
None of the Watchmen characters were meant to be Jewish. Spencer doesn't know who Alan Moore is.
I'd be interested in a racial interpretation of Watchmen. But I've never noticed that myself.
DUDE I THOUGUT THAT WAS A JOKE ON HIS RIDICULOUS OLD VIEWS HOLY SHIT. This is exactly what I was thinking. He is the guy that Alan Moore spoke about before. The one that approaches him and he wishes would just get the fuck away from him.
@Nicholas H the letter in his alphabet soup are probably in some way related to Jews. I'm sure he'd find a way to "argue" the point.
lol Love that psych fact check… just covered my psych systems course
I get what Destiny says about the power of a historical narrative, and how it's more exciting and invigorating, but I do believe there is also a power in making people aware of historiography as a school of thought. We should imo be made aware of the normative factors that contribute to the narrative a historian tells from a selected set of historical facts. At the end of the day we probably need some kind of set narrative in order for history to actually be a tool to reach a certain goal, but being aware of how history is actually told can be a good medicine to the blind faith in one certain lense of historical analysis, which a lot of white nationalists, white identitarians, and more facsism oriented people have. (not exclusively of course. This is definitly a problem on the left aswell)
I gave your mom a powerful historical narrative
@@briano9397 absolutely wrecked
You use far too many redundant words to say something that you could have said in a few sentences
Your style of writing is nauseating.
ok
If Destiny doesn’t talk with Curtis Yarvin then I don’t know wtf to say to this shit anymore.
Destiny sounds like a boomer when discussing wignat vs groyper.
Could u explain then?
@@johnlonne7062 ahhhhh lmao ok makes sense. The difference between the two I mean, not their positions.
I forgot the rage pig was in this until the very end
This is Mr Girls best work.
Bite the bullets? Mrgirl eats bullets for breakfast
Anybody know what's the name of the game destiny is playing here?
this is why you hang up after they talk about underage undergarments
what game is he playing at the start?
Mr.girl and Richard Spencer’s are clearly in love
What reaction? Funny. Your just promoting a good chat!
You and max should just get a room soon! 😄
I wonder if max would have chicken and waffles with him.
I’m almost 20 mins in and I’m waiting for the big awkward Mr Girl truth bomb moment!!! Don’t tell me! I want to be surprised!!
Oh God… Richard Spencer doesn’t need MrGirl to make anything awkward
Manhunter is my favorite movie, I think Brian kox did a better job with Hannibal, he actually looks intimidating like he could kill you, Anthony Hopkins is great but not really scary.
What game is destiny playing?
Crazy that somehow Jarbo is more liked than Ralph now
48:43 I checked my email box
What game is he playing?
1:13:40 At this point Destiny is effectively saying that his major disagreement with (f.ex.) Spencer isn't ideological in nature, but methodological. The problem is that if we are to accept Destiny's methodology (he earlier called it 'post-modern', basically that things are too complex and/or fractal for there to be any possibility of overarching narratives), not just entrenched ideology but also genuinely substantial political debate becomes impossible.
Ironically it is precisely because things are complex and/or fractal that people *must* be allowed to spin large narratives and not just mix together all kinds of different localized observations, since the latter becomes an uninformative and ineffective grey goo (much like, if you have to mix together all kinds of different foods in a blender, the result is a horrible non-edible grey goo). Sure, flinging grey goo at people can be an effective argumentative tactic but it doesn't add up to anything productive.
Tl;dr
Destiny won cope and seethe
I heard risperidone is a good medication.
@@Gizzardx0 furry pfp = based
We are correct to an extent, and I don’t even think Destiny would disagree. Narratives can be extremely useful but we have to constantly moderate ourselves BECAUSE of how powerful narratives can be. The side effect we want to avoid is them holding our perception of the world captive and preventing us from revising said narratives.
Is that the guy with the hot take on the Netflix show cuties?
"politics is about domination of the world" for years I had a question about what is the core disagreement between the left and the right where all other stuff emerges from, this just might be it
elaborate
@@milanjakovljevic7414 which part exactly? I can say that for myself politics is about organizing society , about creating shared directions and missions, about improving the wellbeing of people alive now and the wellbeing of future generations, ultimately seeing how far can we go in our development as a species . In my mind conflicts arise when two or more groups compete for some type of resource needed to achieve those goals for their own group, be it actual resources, territory, influence or something along those lines, but the point is not domination in itself. For spencer it seems to me that he sees domination as a metaphysical meaning of the world, its about who will "win" by getting on top of everyone else. My thought when I heard him was that maybe that difference is what the core difference is, because if I thought from that perspective that domination is the ultimate goal and value, then a lot of the values I hold would be meaningless like non violent conflict resolution, mutual respect, aid, cooperation etc. on the other hand it would make sense to fearmonger and demonize other groups, to do genocides and ethnic cleansings, to create highly obedient and hierarchical societies etc.
I don't think this is really a "left vs right" thing.
well Spencer is an actual Nazi, so I probably shouldn't take him to represent the majority of conservative / right leaning people. Nazism is in a way conservatism pushed to the extreme, so maybe there is still a grain of truth in what I said, but yeah it was uncharitable from me to take his views to be representative of the right wing in general.
@@lukasmolcic5143 You don't think people on the left want to dominate?
I really wonder what a debate between destiny and spencer would look like. Destinys point on meta narritives shows a weakness in understanding of how history effects the beliefs we hold now. If you told destiny liberalism is influenced heavily by christainity i think he would not believe it and cite the history of trains or something
I'm out of the loop, why hasn't Destiny debated Richard Spencer?
What? Where the hell did this take come from
I think this just comes down to Steven wanting to live or die on firmer rhetorical ground. You can’t discuss meta historical narratives without edging into some magical thinking. It’s a rhetorical black hole (usually) without much hard data, so it devolves into people just shouting out their own personal reading of the tea leaves.
Liberalism isn't influenced _heavily_ by Christianity. Western Christianity was influenced by early liberal thought. Liberalism was born out of a rejection of Christian orthodoxy. The claim that Judeo Christian morality is fundamental to our modern liberal societies is just some flabby talking point, where people attached to those religions try to square their archaic teleology with their modern sensibilities.
I'm a fan of Jung too, the idea of archetypes influencing meta narratives is very compelling. But he was a product of his upbringing, as we all are. There is no Christian exceptionalism. Christianity just happened to be there as the material conditions for the emergence of Liberalism were met. i.e. the separation of religion and government.
This is why it didn't emerge in other parts of the world where the Christian narrative was dominant.
The Christian narrative isn't special, it's barely even coherent. It born of the same order/chaos dichotomy that most religions were. And it doesn't even understand that it's trying to describe dualism as its duality collapses into a binary to prop up and simplify its bloated canon.
@@alewis17 from when he was talking about how you cant make narratives about history because lots of small things can also influence people of the past. But it's not really true, because you can point to the MAJOR things known to push people into action in the past. I mean people doing big movements typically chant what their issues were
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Meme's truly are magic
A coup, but with Muppets
What is the Kaiserist/Prussian Constitutionalism version of a wehraboo? Because Richard Spencer is that!
"racist anti-semitic shit" -- isn't that a bit redundant? Isn't the term "racist" enough? Why is one group so special?
Good question. It's to do with the 5.2 million
you cant become asian, however you can become Jewish
@@bigtombowski No it's not.
@@jellyfishbrained sorry 4.9 million
@@bigtombowski 250,000
I wish Mr Girl never said the insane things he said in the Booksmarts interview, because Id like the ability to not consider him an awful human being, but I heard it and I cant unhear it.
What are you referring to exactly?
What the hell did he say? Spill the tea man
What’s the worst thing he said?
Context, or it didn't happen.
I read it, now I must find it.
Post-modernists and some post-structuralists (Derrida comes to mind) were extremely against historical meta-narratives also.
This comes from the 1968 French student riots and Marxism not working out.
(Edited for spelling )
What game is in the background?
very late response but it's Dyson Sphere Program
@@diegoseba12 Better late than never. Thanks a bunch!
Richard Spencer looks kinda like Bruce Campbell lol
This guy gives off a weird reckful/david blaine kind of vibe. He's oddly interesting.
Wtf was Richard Spencer up to in 2006??
i swear mr girl has the most interesting talking points of any political commentary platform i've come across
Really? What talking point of his do you find so interesting?
Who the fuck is Spencer’ trying to kid by trying to rebrand? “ I’m not a racist” yeah bro we’re not all fools.
“I’m not a racist”
“My lizard brain is racist”
Xd
„YoU sEe My ViEw Is MoRe NuAnCeD.“
He’s copying Lauren
Nice shirt mrgirl. 👌
did trainwrecks end up winning big or nah?
Mr. girl is from Amherst? Explains so very much
MrGirl is the final boss of the Internet. this man terrifies me far beyond anything I've ever seen online. this isn't some Andy Kaufman situation, this is cosmic villain which hasn't even revealed 1% of his power level.
I fully understand why people avoid debating him, it's not about good faith vs bad faith, MrGirl is simply a being capable of fully comprehending chaos where all else fall in the abyss and be cursed with madness.
He's a gross narcissist imo - can't stand him. I don't see how he contributes anything positive to political discourse other than morbid curiosity
@@51gan788 ok
He honestly doesn't seem that bad but idk
Bro chill- He's just a guy lmao. People are so dramatic when it comes to him. Calm down.
@@51gan788 Go outside
MrLegend
AHHHH MOWWW GUSSS
An insurrection with 1 invisible fire extinguisher, I think your bias is coming through.
Oh boy
3:30 i don't know why but i feel like this is just richard spencer in a nutshell
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@@tribal_instincts "Really this is entirely you're fault."
HE SAID IT 18:01
Some of the rhetoric about the US "ruling the world with an iron fist" is a bit much for me. I realize the US is a military superpower and I know that power has been misused and I'm ashamed of that, but the invasion of Iraq, for instance, doesn't mean that we rule the world. We just failed in Afghanistan for Christ's sake. For the second time in living memory we've failed to dominate a much smaller nation/geographical region.
The overarching narrative that explains everything is the policies that determine the distribution of the issuance of money.
That was a statement that you thought sounded smart but actually meant absolutely nothing. The “policies that determine the distribution of the issuance of money?” You thought that was a good sentence? What on earth is the “distribution of the issuance of money?” You mean who has more money and who has less money? You think that’s determined by policy? Money is not “issued” or “distributed,” primarily. It is earned, by people who produce goods or offer services that other people are willing to pay for.
@@therainman7777 Money must first be issued before it can be earned.
@@NumeroSystem lmfao
@@therainman7777 Don’t be too hard on him mate, I think he’s a lefty. You know how they tend to be a bit empty upstairs.
Also, he’s probably barely a teenager. I don’t know how else you could say such a thing as “the policies that determine the distribution of the issuance of money” with such bravado. Oi mate, phone call for ya from the department of redundancy department, it’s for you.
Destiny just “reacts” with his eyes?
'vowsh'
“Good ideas will rise to the top” is so debunked it’s sad to hear it repeated by a smart person. In a Marketplace of ideas the “good” ideas are not incentivized. It’s the ideas which justify you feeling good. Read Yarvin.
So what? If it makes you feel good then it’s a good idea, simple as.
@@zarlei6048 hahahahhahahahaha wow. Think about what you just said.
@@zarlei6048 i know a few dead fentanyl addicts that thought similarly
How the fuck do you end up like Richard here?.
Would've been interesting hearing about his life growing up from someone that knows him.
He comes from a wealthy WASP family.
Idk if was Spencer's reading comprehension or a garbage education system striking, but Napoleon isn't even a villain in German history books. Dude literally fought other "imperators", so from a modern, liberal democratic stance, he is in no way inherently morally worse than his contemporaries and even helped reign in the really ugly side of the French Revolution (proto-boshevik, if I may), which would make him a villain to eat-the-rich lefties, but by no stretch current/last 30 years establishment.
MrGirl Universe continues to expand
Spencer's mannerisms remind me of Trump. Like if Trump and Tucker Carlson had a baby.
55:01 please fucking edit this stuff out :(( although ik you prolly wont
This interview actually confirmed a lot of suspicions I have held. His approach to politics reminds me a lot more of people on the far left such as Vaush and Hakim than the big conservatives like Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro.
Cringe
you do realise one cause is holistically better than the other one right?
@@mdh_masalewale8681 Could you clarify exactly what you mean by that?
@@joewesterland5697 vaush and hasan advocate for policies better than spencer's in every conceivable way even if it's some ridiculous commie bs. hell even ben shapiro's policies are better than spencer's.
Not only that, Spencer is an idealogue driven by "passion" for "whites" in america, both Hasan and Vaush are more driven to dismantle fascism. Hasan fails a lot, Vaush fails rarely, but both of those drives are so much more credible than Spencer's.
@@mdh_masalewale8681 I’d like to point out that the original comment said Hakim not Hasan, and I think it was to say that both spencer and vaush/hakim are willing to kill an entire subsection of people to enact their policy if they don’t cooperate , I see very little difference in their beliefs
1:27:20 dno, we’ve been acting pretty good. Black people should start as well.
He seems like a sociopath “life is about war” whatever dude
Standard fash speak
@@gking407 Yea he is less "own the libs" and more "will to power" which makes him creepier
Has there ever been even a single day in human history in which a war wasn’t taking place?
@@chrisbartolini1508 because something is common it doesn’t mean it’s desirable
@@Trecesolotienesdos I’m not saying what we ought to be, I’m saying what we are. We’re an inherently violent species.
DGG 4LYFE
1:02:30 This is a really stupid argument. A small number of people who have no connection or leadership of the overall group having more nefarious plans does not mean the group holistically was acting in service of those plans. I highly doubt Destiny would ever use that same standard during situations where lefties riot and take over government buildings.
Let's say that it was found out that a number of weapons were stolen from the police station that was taken over during the CHAZ. If we arrested 5 people involved in that and it turned out that there were people who planned to use those weapons to kill the president, that doesn't mean the whole process of the CHAZ was an attempt at killing Trump. That doesn't logically follow and he's making a completely ridiculous attribution there.
Classic Destiny moment. CHAZ was more destructive than J. 6 anyway. Sort of gives away how biased shit is considering an armed mob literally seceded a territory from the USA and no one talks about it. CHAZ killed more men and raped more women than J. 6 and it was a minor part of the overall riots.
Mr. Girl did an insanely bad job in this conversation, and capped it off with this quote:
1:33:20
"There's no denying that if... we're trying to get rid of racism, that means white people end up in a worse position at the end then where they started."
I just think that's such a simple analysis that probably isn't even true. It's not like racism is still white people getting rich off of the cheap labor of slaves anymore, it's some personal bullshit that causes drama between people, and it's some systemic problems that cost ALL OF US. If minorities remain a perpetual underclass we could reasonably expect crime rates to be high, and to have to pay for that crime. That's just one aspect in which we all lose, but I think there's many more.
I think Mr. Girl's goal was to create some empathy with Richard Spencer, but we mostly just got some boring media discussion and we got to hear some waffling about Richard Spencer's ideology relatively unopposed. Mr Girl is a shitty representative for my views and it's like he's trying to look bad to the opposition 1:35:42
He just bites so many bullets that are barely even true. It's like he has a hostile view of his own position so he phrases things (that I believe in) in the shittiest possible light.
who is this person on the right? the cadence of speech and eloquence makes watching paint dry more entertaining
DALIBAN ❤
Ron Paul was a huge reason a bunch of hippy dippy liberals I know became hardcore trumpers.
I can’t remember if Destiny has talked to Richard Spencer, the alt right tend to blur into one big amalgamation of a person
I love when a guys whose job is to talk on the internet talks about how awesome the frontier is. Its the kind of braindead thinking that would shit on people that like being architects instead of construction workers. Society is better with a wide variety of skills and people who put their varied talents together to build something better than the individual parts.
Also, if you love the frontier so much, go there and get off the internet, you can still go hunting and fishing and build a cabin and all that shit right now. Just do it and quit whining about what other people are doing. Would Spencer consider himself to be an inferior person because he lives such an easy lifestyle, and should we, therefore by his logic, not really give a shit about what his ideas are because hes not the "right kind" of person to build a society with?
Frontier is great... until bandits kick your shit in
Dude, he just appreciate the people at the frontiers more than politicians. You're unhinged.
@@surewhynot403 who the fuck lives on the frontiers anymore? None cuz there are no frontiers.
@@grutsthefoodman3645 You're kidding right? You can have an opinion on people who are gone. When you think about nazi Germany do you simply say to yourself "oh well, there's no German nazi party anymore, so I guess I have no opinion"?
@@surewhynot403 OP is seriously angry at Spencer lol
What game is destiny playing
I think it’s called Riftbreaker
@@collette6531 thnx g
Jan 6 was an insurrection?? LMAO. so when did they try to take power? Before or after the selfies?
Did you know that if you try to murder someone but fail the state prosecutes you basically the same way
@@Psylockt right, now imagine the murderer was not trying to murder anyone, and did not murder anyone.
It's very easy to use broad strokes or accidentally misrepresent events as a whole to defend a political stance.
There were different groups involved in Jan 6. Some people got caught up in the hysteria, certainly. But there's an element you can't ignore which are the Q types, who really believed they could change the election by having an insurrection. They used images and rhetoric that were reminiscent of the founding of America.
So while some were just gullible and dumb enough to step into a government building that was broken into, others had legitimate motives that were insurrectionist in nature.
Mr fan girl
Mr girl just talks slow
Wtf is the hype
I don't really get why Mr. Girl thinks that racism against white people is worse than racism against other people? I don't inherently believe Mr. Girl is right there. Would have at least been helpful to have an actual example, rather than just vague gesturing. Otherwise don't see what the point in having the conversation was other than to show how agreeable Spencer is.
Agreeableness is female thought and woman bad
-Jordan Peterson, thought leader of the right
If you believe that some people find it socially acceptable to be racist against white people than it would be worse.
If you believe that no one finds it socially acceptable to be racist towards white people than it isn't any worse.
@@juliusditgen2567 Wouldn't it matter how big of an issue it is? Just cause it happens a few times doesn't mean it's as big of an issue as racism against other groups.
@@yingyangman11 idk. Data is merely a large collection of anecdotes.
If you dont think some people find it socially acceptable to be racist against white people than its a moot point. No data presented would convince you because it will be labeled anecdotal evidence.
@@juliusditgen2567 But there wasn't even any data presented. If he did I would have at least had some reason to believe him.
This guy reminds me of a grinning Patrick Bateman. He is so well dressed, polished, well spoken, courteous etc. When he knows he is being observed... But he keeps being recorded going on unhinged shrieking rants about the violence he would love to do. And that is obviously more honest, since he doesn't have his guard up.
He's probably someone you can have a good conversation with... I can't say that about most, who just stare at their phones, talk about weather, name brands, etc..
@@LoyalOpposition sure lol. In public. And then if you offend him he will show up at your house, ranting and raving about how he will rule the world one day because his ancestors owned slaves, and how you will be an undesirable in his ethnostate... If you haven't heard the leaked audio I would look it up. That is who he is when he isn't prepped for cameras.
That's how modern white supremacists lure people into their ideology: "I'm not some loud, buffoonish neo Nazi with crazy tattoos yelling 'fuck (insert group here)' on the streets. I'm just a humble, well dressed, well spoken activist looking out for our people."
Then behind closed doors, he screams about how he would subjugate other races and rule the world. It's actually very sinister, to use such respectable optics to manipulate people into thinking he's good and well. He's exactly the sort of person I'd imagine Satan would look like if I believed in such things.
@@LoyalOpposition no one just talks about the weather wtf lol
Mr girl is one of the most respectful folks I've ever seen. Props.
Wait was this guy joking about the Jewish thing? Lol. The author of Watchmen is a leftist and not antisemitic. I mean that was almost a parody of a white supremacist so it has to be a joke lmfao. I'm autistic please help
diversity ius good because we've seen the negatives of a lack of diversity.
Trite slogan.
The Bible does a good job of describing a grand narrative of history.
Destiny, please do not go down the univariate analysis path of sense-making. They have it easier, but what makes you great is that you do not participate in the grand narrative ideology
I find it hilarious that Richard Spencer is a Biden supporter lmfao
Its not really hilarious. He's a racial nationalist that supports socialistic policy. He's on the left in that regard.
He might also feels
betrayed by Trump and his ilk so he jumped on the bandwagon of his political opponent.
He’s not a Biden supporter. He simply hates Trump.
Zotero, the most useful thing I've ever learned about from Destiny.
I think this conversation has mostly pushed me off the fence of how I feel about Mr. Girl. With the exception of being genuinely good faith and a very funny person, it seems in practice he’s not too dissimilar to what Dave Rubin was a few years ago. Mr. Girl wants to help platform and make extremist ideologues more palatable without actually considering the consequences. Pretty disappointing.
I wouldn't trust the guy with a platform, he is obviously a disaster waiting to happen
Maybe I'm crazy but presenting bad people and ideas on a personal level, maybe even humanising them, isn't a bad thing it's just reality
theres nothing wrong with that and it would be more equalized since hatred towards white people is super open on social media. its already happening on a massive scale but you dont notice it because its on the side you presumably align the most with
@@kahn5636 true. Intersectionalists shouldn't have a problem with this
its not about "bad ideas", nazi rhetoric is not about ideas, its about producing, harnessing and directing the anger of the masses. Turning suffering in to hatred and then mobilizing that hatred in to violence for political gains. People are not purely rational beings, they can be manipulated and deceived in to doing fucked up stuff, I am yet to see a good argument on why anyone should platform nazi "ideas".
Spencer gives off gay vibes, not that there is anything wrong with that.
does richard spencer ping anyone eles's gaydar or just me
Probably just projection
I thought such a prominent white identitarian would use more rational arguments than using past governments or actions of people to paint negatively individual policies of the same brush.
Like when he said he could relate to a 100+ year old German who cynically says stuff like "Oh, well the communists said that." to dismiss the government - does that mean he'd pick up cigarettes and start chain smoking because the Nazis ran an anti-smoking campaign?
I dunno, seems pretty irrational.
Thinking a prominent white identitarian would use rational arguments is as rational as the arguments proposed by a prominent white identitarian
@@snowmanmanvideo Usually people who become more ingrained into a way of thinking come up with cleverer ways to mask core logical inconsistencies.
It's probably that nobody has specifically challenged that irrational mode of critique.
"Like when he said he could relate to a 100+ year old German who cynically says stuff like "Oh, well the communists said that." to dismiss the government - does that mean he'd pick up cigarettes and start chain smoking because the Nazis ran an anti-smoking campaign?"
wut? how is this remotely comparable?
@@green2498 Nazis bad, Nazis did anti-smoking campaign.
Government does anti-smoking campaign "AH, I've heard this from the Nazis before!"
@@Mitchincredible yes but what is the analogy here? spencer likened himself to the ancient german because of the idea that person has experienced so many different forms of governance, they have a more realistic expectation of what governance in general is capable of rather than just sort of thinking imperfections are just a product of having an incorrect overall governance strategy or ideology or whatever
Destiny is so annoying... ignores the convo and goes on his own rants.. or ignores everything he says, not even a react video
glorious leader can talk about WHATEVER HE WANTS BINGQILIN
he's playing some game.
Mr girl unironicaly stating he understands people.
He's a freak who dosnt understand anything let alone anyone.
I like MrGirl, but I didn't really see the point of this discussion. If his goal was to make Richard Spencer appear more... normal? That obviously didn't work. My opinion of him remains relatively unchanged after this. I already didn't really know much about him besides him being a crazy racist, but now I feel like that feeling has just been reinforced. Lol, maybe even more so now that I know he is nutty enough to articulate his bizarre racial views so casually. He thinks the actual meaning of life is to create a superior race. That is easily one of the most insane things I've ever heard anyone say. But whatever. I thought MrGirl handled himself okay. But to what end? Emotionally, I sympathize with MrGirl's opinion that ends don't justify means, but stuff like this just helps me realize how important it is sometimes to disagree.
Your comment makes no sense. All you did was call Spencer crazy and insane without providing any substance as to why. "He thinks the actual meaning of life is to create a superior race" What is wrong with thinking this way? Can you please enlighten us on the objective meaning of life that you believe in. Unless you're religious you have no basis for meaning in life.
Eh. I think mrgirl does an ok job of just letting Richard spencer make himself look like a maniac, but I’m not sure how widespread that perspective would be
@@basileus226 your pfp and name w that comment make too much sense together xd
@@basileus226 also because that idea is pretty easily tossed aside when someone says “I just don’t care about a superior race, and I don’t think it’s a thing you can achieve”. It shares a space with the thinking of utopian anarchists.
@@HamburgerHat1 What's my profile pic and what about it is related to my comment? I don't understand. What's a superior race? What qualities would one look for in a race that is superior? Are you saying it is not possible for a race to be superior to other races if you can define what qualities make a race superior?
I don’t understand why he is so obvious in saying things like he loves villains and “hates democracy,” there has to be better ways of presenting your ideas
Maybe he just doesn’t care anymore. Maybe he just wants to be honest now.
Or maybe Richard spencer is a cia psy op to make the right look bad!
Why are we OK with Destiny platforming-by-proxy all these alt-right/white nationalist figures? I'm talking about Southern, Fuentes, and now Spencer. Highly problematic.