Keith , if it was me , the side windows would've shattered aswell with the pitch of my swearing. Good on you for showing your challenges , persevering and getting there in the end . It was definitely a teachable experience to share with us.
restoration os my 1965 Morris Cooper, 30 years ago, and the never ending little jobs that rear their heads. Cheers and keep up the great mini tradition. Allan.
My heart went out to you when the second screen broke, we've all been in similar situation at some time. I find that some days, no matter which job you are working on it just doesn't go right., I try to walk away and leave it, as I've found it's often easier when you come back another time in a better frame of mind, but that's hard to do when you are determined not to be defeated. You've had a good run, and you got there in the end, well done.
Hi Keith, OMG! I'm surprised you were as calm as you were! My heart sank with you...twice! Materials are obviously not what they were hey, glad you got there in the end 😊
Well done Keith, you got there in the end. Bit of an experience the 1st time you break a screen putting it in, it just goes to the bottom of your stomach. Mini is looking fantastic. Thanks for the great videos. Michael
Hi Keith, Greetings from Australia.. I had the same problem with a windscreen rubber which I bought from Mini Sport Australia. I assume this was sourced from a British manufacturer, but after battling with it for an hour, I gave up and got a windscreen specialist to do the job. I wasn't surprised to see that he had the same problem. We gave up and he ordered a rubber from an Australian manufacturer. This was much more pliable and the screen was in within minutes. I didn't,but I hope you can contact Mini Spares ,to let them know about your dissatisfaction with their product. That will hopefully encourage them to correct the problem with their part, so that other people don't have to go through the pain you have had. I much enjoy your videos, as it takes me back to my restoratio
That day just wasn’t your day! I know exactly how you felt at that moment and it’s horrible! But on a plus I’m a new subscriber and it’s shown me to be very careful with the front screen when I eventually refit! Take care mate and great videos! 👍🏼
Hi Keith still playing catch up but really felt your pain mate, my new screen and rubber are waiting to be fitted, there’s a sense of trepidation now! Onwards and upwards though. Take Care Stay Safe Regards Dave
You took measurments Keith i had to ask around the community and dale advised me from db mini his was 415 in the middle and 410 at the sides i put a magnum scuttle on and ended up taking it back off and fitting a heratige one got the joys of the screen fitting to come.
Well done, I'm amazed at your perseverance...I would of given up and got autoglass round to fit it. I need to change the rubber on mine and I wasn't looking forward to it and now I'm definitely not looking forward to it. Keep up the good work, you're an inspiration.
That's one job iam not looking forward to Keith, it's one of the hardest things to do I think putting the windscreen in I find but you got there 👍, your good with minis so don't put yourself down
Unfortunately current regulations prevent the use of the old chemical softners in rubbers. So all new rubbers are stift and harder to use. I do like the idea of using a heat gun to locally heat up areas. It seemed the window trim went in very easily as opposed to mine. Keep up the good work!
Glad to see you've lost the denim shorts lol. Shit happens, gutted regarding the screens. I could see your frustration when the second screen went. Paul p gave you a shout out tonight. 👍. Attention to detail and video editing
God that was funny but i do feel for you to. I've been there plenty of times, whether it's slipping with the spanner and skinning your knuckles or breaking something ( not once but twice lol) when fitting it, does make you really angry but as a bystander, it's bloody funny.
The guys who i got to fit mine said the new seals are not rubber but more like silicone so they "bounce" when you try to push the windscreen in as opposed to rubber which you can almost mould into shape. The chap had been in the business for over 30 years and said hes never struggled so much and he had a helper!
Oh crickey I really felt for you, you felt so bad but you’ve got a screen in there now. Do you mind me asking why you put the rubber in the aperture and then fitted the glass into the rubber. I’ve fitted a rear screen years ago and fitted the rubber onto the glass, then fed so e paracord around the rubber with a lube of washing up liquid. Then placed the glass and rubber against the aperture and pulled the cord from inside of the car. I guess different ways to the same ends but wondered if the way you did it has advantages.
I feel for you Keith, but at least it's not a scratch on your paintwork. I got a new laminated screen with a green top sun band delivered from Bull Motif. My wife helped me fit it and it was a bugger of a job. Get the fairy liquid in to it. It's better doing it as a 2 man job .
Dude.. I hope the bounce of the tool didn't scratch PIOO or Venie... Dude.. I'm sorry to see the broken screens, but it's good to see a respected restorer does have frustrations and issues. but hey.. the angle of the camera makes Sprout look fantastic.. what a great paint job. As for mail ordering the screens.. I have no choice.. can't drive over and get one. This episode is as we say... "when it rains, it pours".. one issue after the other... thanks for sharing your frustrations.. don't remember if you said where the rubber came from.. curious?
Hey Keith. 4 years on I know, but still a good watch. Do you ever seal the rubber up with black sealant, or always just like the video and the rubber and screen goes in 'dry' other than some water/soap? On my mini when I got the screen put in back in 2008, it leaked rather badly, so I took it back to the windscreen place and they sealed the rubber to the car, and not had a single issue since. Regarding the rubbers, I got one for the mini I am doing up currently, and its as hard as heck also, but had another one from years ago I found, and that is still supple, so yeah - wont be using the hard rubber! Think one came from Huddersfield and one from Minispares, but I cant remember which was which.
@@classicminiworkshop Oh dear. I have one from Mini Spares too (not fitted yet). Fortunately I still have the old one which isn't that old. Don't have any spare screens though so I will have to go easy.
Not good if it was a Mini Spares sourced rubber, if you have time, give them the feedback about your hassle, ultimately, they do care enough to take some action, they have used rubber hardness testers in the past to ensure parts are correct, maybe they should test this rubber vs. an old one...… Well done for persevering! Cheers!
Hi Keith great work, could please make a normal speed video how to remove the front windscreen and put back on? My Mini has a small rust hole under the windscreen, would it be better to grind it down and use fiber glass, or to cut it would need cutting out ? Can I send you a picture by an email or on WhatsApp?
I found exactly the same when I replaced the the rubber surround on mine. The new rubber is definitely stiffer than the old one. I struggled to get the glass screen in but managed. Managed to get the beading in with difficulty. When I came fit the little fillet piece that bridges the join. I split the rubber!!!!!!!!! Once again rubber replacement parts that are inferior to their years old originals.
Haven’t watched it yet but that bleep tool that you used for mark last time on the era update, yeah, I feel it will come into play at some point. It’s bloody awful when shit like this happens mate may I suggest putting the rubber on the screen first then putting some string in the groove and working it in circles until the rubber works it’s way over the lip. Sam 👍
I've always put the rubber onto the glass then put the string( I use parachute cord as its strong yet small in diameter) into the rubber groove, then locate the screen and rubber in the lower section of the car body then go inside (it helps to have another person outside to aid balance) and pull the cord all the way around gradually and it will pop in easy. I've done it the way you tried and yes it can work but this can happen that way (think I've broke x2 screens doing that way before changing to the string way) The string way just pulls the rubber seal lip into the body shell so no pressure on the glass at all and worse case the seal doesn't pull in and you have to reset again. Good luck 👍 and use some fairy liquid 😉 helps no end
I feel your pain Keith, got there in the end mate,looks fantastic 👍
Keith , if it was me , the side windows would've shattered aswell with the pitch of my swearing.
Good on you for showing your challenges , persevering and getting there in the end . It was definitely a teachable experience to share with us.
Keith, a great example of Staying Calm and keep going, well done!
Ah ha mr Miller getting all flustered, not something we see very often.....I felt sick too 😛
restoration os my 1965 Morris Cooper, 30 years ago, and the never ending little jobs that rear their heads.
Cheers and keep up the great mini tradition.
Allan.
My heart went out to you when the second screen broke, we've all been in similar situation at some time. I find that some days, no matter which job you are working on it just doesn't go right., I try to walk away and leave it, as I've found it's often easier when you come back another time in a better frame of mind, but that's hard to do when you are determined not to be defeated. You've had a good run, and you got there in the end, well done.
Thanks for the kind comment Paul, it was just one of those days. Luckily they don't happen too often
Oh, man! I felt your pain on that. Thanks for sharing the tragedies as well as the triumphs.
Hi Keith, OMG! I'm surprised you were as calm as you were! My heart sank with you...twice! Materials are obviously not what they were hey, glad you got there in the end 😊
Well done Keith, you got there in the end. Bit of an experience the 1st time you break a screen putting it in, it just goes to the bottom of your stomach. Mini is looking fantastic. Thanks for the great videos. Michael
Hi Keith, Greetings from Australia.. I had the same problem with a windscreen rubber which I bought from Mini Sport Australia.
I assume this was sourced from a British manufacturer, but after battling with it for an hour, I gave up and got a windscreen specialist to do the job.
I wasn't surprised to see that he had the same problem. We gave up and he ordered a rubber from an Australian manufacturer.
This was much more pliable and the screen was in within minutes.
I didn't,but I hope you can contact Mini Spares ,to let them know about your dissatisfaction with their product.
That will hopefully encourage them to correct the problem with their part, so that other people don't have to go through the pain you have had.
I much enjoy your videos, as it takes me back to my restoratio
Best episode by far, thank you for the drama
Don’t beat yourself up about it ! The work you’ve done is fantastic and you should be proud of yourself ! It’s just one of those things .👍
Well done for your perseverance - I was feeling for you there!
That day just wasn’t your day! I know exactly how you felt at that moment and it’s horrible! But on a plus I’m a new subscriber and it’s shown me to be very careful with the front screen when I eventually refit! Take care mate and great videos! 👍🏼
Thanks for subbing!
Hiya Keith-have a cider, it's Friday night! Sprout looks superb!
On it :)
So sorry for you Keith. Keep your head up
Thank you
Hi Keith still playing catch up but really felt your pain mate, my new screen and rubber are waiting to be fitted, there’s a sense of trepidation now! Onwards and upwards though. Take Care Stay Safe Regards Dave
Cheers Dave, good luck with yours. It's normally quite a straight forward job
Oh man! I had to put down my tea to see how that ended! I had everything crossed for #4
LOL, I would have been crying on the 4th
You took measurments Keith i had to ask around the community and dale advised me from db mini his was 415 in the middle and 410 at the sides i put a magnum scuttle on and ended up taking it back off and fitting a heratige one got the joys of the screen fitting to come.
Well done, I'm amazed at your perseverance...I would of given up and got autoglass round to fit it.
I need to change the rubber on mine and I wasn't looking forward to it and now I'm definitely not looking forward to it.
Keep up the good work, you're an inspiration.
That's one job iam not looking forward to Keith, it's one of the hardest things to do I think putting the windscreen in I find but you got there 👍, your good with minis so don't put yourself down
I would have cried my eyes out after the first one ! Nearly finished now 👍
Took me 4 chuffing hours to get one of mine in before and the next one i did popped in in a flash
Mate that's real life, glad you shared. Makes me feel normal now. M
I am impressed either you edited it or there was no swearing :-)
I would of turned the air blue with every naughty word I know.. Good on you for getting it done
Gutted for you Keith, but at least you got it sorted in the end 👍
Jesus, Keith, I felt that right in the feels 😓
Unfortunately current regulations prevent the use of the old chemical softners in rubbers. So all new rubbers are stift and harder to use. I do like the idea of using a heat gun to locally heat up areas. It seemed the window trim went in very easily as opposed to mine. Keep up the good work!
Mate, gutting when that went! Definitely needs to be 415mm in the centre. Wait until you see my struggles!!😆 ERA was also 410mm, maybe less.😬
Keith, I know the feeling well, I have mentioned i replaced a brand new rubber due to the stiffness and poor fit, Cheers Dave
Glad to see you've lost the denim shorts lol.
Shit happens, gutted regarding the screens. I could see your frustration when the second screen went.
Paul p gave you a shout out tonight. 👍. Attention to detail and video editing
LOL, the shorts may make a return at some point
@@classicminiworkshop lol. Proper dad shorts.😅🤣😂
God that was funny but i do feel for you to. I've been there plenty of times, whether it's slipping with the spanner and skinning your knuckles or breaking something ( not once but twice lol) when fitting it, does make you really angry but as a bystander, it's bloody funny.
The guys who i got to fit mine said the new seals are not rubber but more like silicone so they "bounce" when you try to push the windscreen in as opposed to rubber which you can almost mould into shape. The chap had been in the business for over 30 years and said hes never struggled so much and he had a helper!
also, he was really really giving it some welly when palm shoving it into the seal and came very close to giving up.
Thanks, I've heard that a few time now. There is certainly a big difference in feel and suppleness of the old vs new rubber
You got there in the end Keef.
Oh crickey I really felt for you, you felt so bad but you’ve got a screen in there now. Do you mind me asking why you put the rubber in the aperture and then fitted the glass into the rubber. I’ve fitted a rear screen years ago and fitted the rubber onto the glass, then fed so e paracord around the rubber with a lube of washing up liquid. Then placed the glass and rubber against the aperture and pulled the cord from inside of the car.
I guess different ways to the same ends but wondered if the way you did it has advantages.
I need to give that a try sometime. I've done it that way with a rear side window before but never a front screen
Classic Mini Workshop no idea if either way is better or worse. Good luck and stay safe
I feel for you Keith, but at least it's not a scratch on your paintwork.
I got a new laminated screen with a green top sun band delivered from Bull Motif. My wife helped me fit it and it was a bugger of a job. Get the fairy liquid in to it. It's better doing it as a 2 man job .
Try a few windscreen company's they may carry. If the rubber feels tough change it .
Dude.. I hope the bounce of the tool didn't scratch PIOO or Venie... Dude.. I'm sorry to see the broken screens, but it's good to see a respected restorer does have frustrations and issues. but hey.. the angle of the camera makes Sprout look fantastic.. what a great paint job. As for mail ordering the screens.. I have no choice.. can't drive over and get one. This episode is as we say... "when it rains, it pours".. one issue after the other... thanks for sharing your frustrations.. don't remember if you said where the rubber came from.. curious?
The windscreen rubber was from Mini Spares
Gutted for you , impressed you uploaded the video ,I cringed when you tossed the window tool where the did it land ? Did it hit PL
Yes, it hit the roof. Luckily it was only a plastic trim tool so no damage
Hey Keith. 4 years on I know, but still a good watch. Do you ever seal the rubber up with black sealant, or always just like the video and the rubber and screen goes in 'dry' other than some water/soap? On my mini when I got the screen put in back in 2008, it leaked rather badly, so I took it back to the windscreen place and they sealed the rubber to the car, and not had a single issue since. Regarding the rubbers, I got one for the mini I am doing up currently, and its as hard as heck also, but had another one from years ago I found, and that is still supple, so yeah - wont be using the hard rubber! Think one came from Huddersfield and one from Minispares, but I cant remember which was which.
I've never had to seal one up yet
I really feel for you!
I felt for you Keith after the first screen and the second I felt your pain how you did not swear I don't know
I felt that pain!!!!
I put a new proper MPI screen in it last year
Hi Keith, I'm sorry you had such a struggle with your screens. Well done for persisting with the video. Where did you get the stiff seal from?
Mini Spares so didnt expect a problem
@@classicminiworkshop Oh dear. I have one from Mini Spares too (not fitted yet). Fortunately I still have the old one which isn't that old. Don't have any spare screens though so I will have to go easy.
Seriously feel for you.
Not good if it was a Mini Spares sourced rubber, if you have time, give them the feedback about your hassle, ultimately, they do care enough to take some action, they have used rubber hardness testers in the past to ensure parts are correct, maybe they should test this rubber vs. an old one...… Well done for persevering! Cheers!
When you threw that tool! 😵
I've not looked too hard to see if there is a new dent in PIIIOOW's roof
Classic Mini Workshop I thought the same! Rage!
On lock down rules cars can still be maintained. So a screen is pretty important to its security.
Hi Keith great work, could please make a normal speed video how to remove the front windscreen and put back on?
My Mini has a small rust hole under the windscreen, would it be better to grind it down and use fiber glass, or to cut it would need cutting out ? Can I send you a picture by an email or on WhatsApp?
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And may I be the second to say "Can I get you a pint, Keith?"
I feel for you was that rubber the later wider type or the smaller width early type.
I always use string to put glass in.
Poor Keith ...... want a hug ?
Yes please big man
sods law my friend it happens to the best of us
What a bugger - commiserations.
I found exactly the same when I replaced the the rubber surround on mine. The new rubber is definitely stiffer than the old one. I struggled to get the glass screen in but managed. Managed to get the beading in with difficulty. When I came fit the little fillet piece that bridges the join. I split the rubber!!!!!!!!! Once again rubber replacement parts that are inferior to their years old originals.
Haven’t watched it yet but that bleep tool that you used for mark last time on the era update, yeah, I feel it will come into play at some point. It’s bloody awful when shit like this happens mate may I suggest putting the rubber on the screen first then putting some string in the groove and working it in circles until the rubber works it’s way over the lip. Sam 👍
LOL, well predicted
S*** happens. it makes you feel like a real plonker.
Gutted for you as only fitted 1 screen using Haynes manual string fitment and new soft rubber. I think a cold beer will help
Well sometimes 😁
May I be the first to say "NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Sad times 😢 use string next time though far safer and easier
Yeah, I will give that a try sometime
I've always put the rubber onto the glass then put the string( I use parachute cord as its strong yet small in diameter) into the rubber groove, then locate the screen and rubber in the lower section of the car body then go inside (it helps to have another person outside to aid balance) and pull the cord all the way around gradually and it will pop in easy.
I've done it the way you tried and yes it can work but this can happen that way (think I've broke x2 screens doing that way before changing to the string way)
The string way just pulls the rubber seal lip into the body shell so no pressure on the glass at all and worse case the seal doesn't pull in and you have to reset again.
Good luck 👍 and use some fairy liquid 😉 helps no end