There've been memes about the different mirrors like that for a while lol. TVT: chess match, PVP: rock paper scissors, ZVZ: two crackheads in a knife fight lol
These 2 games are the perfect example of why these tournaments are so great - as you say, at the top top level the games are almost so clean it can be boring (of course I still love ANY starcraft gameplay), but I was at the edge of my seat both matches this time. Did not at ALL expect that ending! BIGGGGGGG
soso's build made my childhood dreams come true. Was unsurprisingly terrible at SC as a kid because I refused to build anything but mech... feels vindicating to see a 1-base mech win so easily at this level of play. Mirror match made me chuckle though, just barely edged out that win. Good stuff, keep it up!
Have not been on the edge of my seat watching these games for a good while. GREAT Games showcased here! Mind Blown seeing all these creative builds being forced out due to best of one tournament setup. TY RT GL HF Everyone !😁
RT: dude, theres not a one base mech build... Soso: I miss the part where thats my problem. I rly like how he just aped his way in with vults tho, that was just briliant.
You know what is funny about Jaedong ZvZ ? Is that in Sc2 he was actually dominant in the match up. When Arty told the he could get sniped against zergs in the proleague i was in disbelief.
Love the stream Arty but question, do you rarely stream zvz because it’s generally uninteresting or is there just a lack of good games you can find? Zvz is my favorite match when it’s good but they’re so hard to find. Like gems. Thanks, blind guy here so I appreciate the commentary as always
Jaedong's ZvZ was 80% Those comments about zerg aces are weird in that context He is the only reason Oz got 2nd place in proleague. Literally he was taking on the entire SKT empire which had aces of all three races by himself.
Interesting games. 1. Goliaths is interesting unit. It's nowhere strong in dps as bunch marines and it's not tanky. But damn, it has those very narrow spots in game where they can pull strange sh1t that marines might not have able to pull off otherwise. 2. Well, damn, that zerg match was amazing! I don't understand people who don't like watching zerg mirror, RTS rush and micro at it's finest.
ZVZ is usually just "tolerable" for me like I don't mind it, but a few in a row and I fall asleep but WOW what a ZVZ. I don't think we've ever seen a high-profile game where a Z loses their spawning pool without doing ANY eco damage to the opponent and still wins.
zerg is the most difficult race in the game. The fact that it's the only one to lose workers in order to build structures makes it really weak in the early game.
*SPOILER* As fun as that build from the first game was, I feel like it's more of a blunder from the Zerg than a good build from the Terran. You scout no nat and mass Goliath, and still massing drones and no sunkens? If he had just defended that push with a few sunkens the game is over and he would have won
i have a feeling , after the drop of this video on youtube ... terran 1 base 2 facts vultures into goliaths will be common for a while in the mid ranks
@@quaco24 if you watch the first game , you can see that one sunken , well placed drones and a decent number of lings along with a hive walloff... all combined ... was not enough
@@quaco24 The problem is that you spend too many resources on a one trick pony defense like that and then you just get blown out by like tanks sieging. Hindsight is 20/20, you can't defend a build you have no clue what it is doing because you don't know where they are going with it.
I swear watching Z V Z, is like watching a knife fight in a phone booth lol
There've been memes about the different mirrors like that for a while lol. TVT: chess match, PVP: rock paper scissors, ZVZ: two crackheads in a knife fight lol
well said
Accurate
@@kahahabahahaaccurate lol
The comparison to a knife fight was also my first thought.
These 2 games are the perfect example of why these tournaments are so great - as you say, at the top top level the games are almost so clean it can be boring (of course I still love ANY starcraft gameplay), but I was at the edge of my seat both matches this time. Did not at ALL expect that ending! BIGGGGGGG
I'm not supposed to talk to strangers
so kinda not boring?
@@visitante-pc5zc then make friends!
soso's build made my childhood dreams come true. Was unsurprisingly terrible at SC as a kid because I refused to build anything but mech... feels vindicating to see a 1-base mech win so easily at this level of play. Mirror match made me chuckle though, just barely edged out that win. Good stuff, keep it up!
Arty getting chills constantly, thus the cough and sore throat XD
Ok that first one was sick
That soso build was awesome. I haven't seen a Zerg die to Terran that quick in awhile. Great casting as always Arty.
Haven't seen Arty being so excited about all-ins.
Have not been on the edge of my seat watching these games for a good while. GREAT Games showcased here! Mind Blown seeing all these creative builds being forced out due to best of one tournament setup. TY RT GL HF Everyone !😁
Wow! Incredible matches! As a novice, I love it when Artosis gets excited about the games because it's just so contagious.
Game 1 was amazing!
Wow! ArtosisCast made the matchup extra special. Thank you Artosis.
The 1st game was so great~! it's my 1st time to see a one base terran mech build against zerg~
both of these games were very exciting. what great games and commentary. we got treated on this one, boys
Really excellent pair of games. That ZvZ could not of been much closer of a game.
Wish I could see every game, but enjoying it nonetheless. Love your videos bro. Thanks for keeping bw alive
Amazing games, thank you for these casts!
Artosis is actually a really chill and nice guy
that one base mech build is basically the one Gypsy shows in F to S 😂
RT: dude, theres not a one base mech build...
Soso: I miss the part where thats my problem.
I rly like how he just aped his way in with vults tho, that was just briliant.
These 2 games were great!
Wow, these two games were so hype!
Wow! The foreigners are bringing their A-game this tournament! Love to see it! Please dont skip the first minute of the match!
Soso brings monka diamond builds into the pro scene
WTF WAS THAT GOLIATH WALK UP PLAY!?!?!? Amazing!!!!!
Ain't no one ever see the power of 1 base builds these days lol
Two absolute Mega Games !
loved those 2 games
You know what is funny about Jaedong ZvZ ? Is that in Sc2 he was actually dominant in the match up.
When Arty told the he could get sniped against zergs in the proleague i was in disbelief.
That 1st game was so different!
12:42 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what chu saying is fkkknn fuynnyyy legendary castingg
Since when did BW get a production tab? Is it only available in replays? Did I miss it in ASL?
The night is dark and full of Terran.
that game 1 build is an oldschool 2hatch mech counter
Both were amazingly fun games! And I love that Terran build order
Love those games. The best of 🧀
So excited!!!
Thank you!!!
Great Games)))
awesome game number 1 ARTOSIS !! :D
Chills!!
***No spoiler. Great first match. Awesome build
Pepperidge Farms remembers when 1 base TvZ was the norm
Damn that was a CRAAAAAAAZY build! I haven't seen that before at all.
Love the stream Arty but question, do you rarely stream zvz because it’s generally uninteresting or is there just a lack of good games you can find? Zvz is my favorite match when it’s good but they’re so hard to find. Like gems. Thanks, blind guy here so I appreciate the commentary as always
Jaedong's ZvZ was 80%
Those comments about zerg aces are weird in that context
He is the only reason Oz got 2nd place in proleague. Literally he was taking on the entire SKT empire which had aces of all three races by himself.
that kid... absoulutely killed the game!
I am so happy that ZvZ are not stand-alone videos anymore :D I like them, but 4-5min is not enough!
gotem boys.... rIGHT INTO MY FEEEED
Innovation in tvz? Where do I sign?
all these pros with handles like 815 and Dewalt and then theres just a dude named Allen
Zerg starts every TvZ as the underdog, which is why Zerg beats Protoss beats Terran beats Zerg.
Yes as a z player I can confirm zvp is kinda boring for z (even against better players) and zvt is very exciting because it's super hard
for how great of a game starcraft is, mirror matches are definitely the low point for me.
Interesting games.
1. Goliaths is interesting unit. It's nowhere strong in dps as bunch marines and it's not tanky. But damn, it has those very narrow spots in game where they can pull strange sh1t that marines might not have able to pull off otherwise.
2. Well, damn, that zerg match was amazing! I don't understand people who don't like watching zerg mirror, RTS rush and micro at it's finest.
such great content and games
crazy good games!
Next game soso does a one base protoss all in scout build and wins ASL twice
MECHWARRIOR
ZVZ is usually just "tolerable" for me like I don't mind it, but a few in a row and I fall asleep but WOW what a ZVZ. I don't think we've ever seen a high-profile game where a Z loses their spawning pool without doing ANY eco damage to the opponent and still wins.
I made 2 factory before CC and a wave of speedlings buried my ass. Hmm
Amazing match
Great games
zerg is the most difficult race in the game. The fact that it's the only one to lose workers in order to build structures makes it really weak in the early game.
Yes and no. They can also build multiple drones at the same time. And their buildings are cheaper, to "discount" the drone investment.
*SPOILER*
As fun as that build from the first game was, I feel like it's more of a blunder from the Zerg than a good build from the Terran. You scout no nat and mass Goliath, and still massing drones and no sunkens? If he had just defended that push with a few sunkens the game is over and he would have won
mm he decided to go hydras though and had already some of them ...
Cool Beans
A lot of zvt. Where are de P matches?
His terran is so so🤣
What a shameful performance by this Alen guy....
a goliath rush lol whodathunkit
This is stuff i try lol
I love ZvZ. Do you love ZvZ?
I beginning to think ZvZ is the biggest joke in a RTS
lol nice
what?? jaedong had like a 90% zvz wr at the time
and still failed miserable vs players that couldnt even reach to his thighs ...
i have a feeling , after the drop of this video on youtube ... terran 1 base 2 facts vultures into goliaths will be common for a while in the mid ranks
Isn't it pretty easily stopped by having like... just one more sunken so that the vultures can't get in?
@@quaco24 if you watch the first game , you can see that one sunken , well placed drones and a decent number of lings along with a hive walloff... all combined ... was not enough
@@coolblade23 That's why I said one more sunken. I.e. two sunkens in total.
@@quaco24 yeah gotta have more than 1 sunken or get fast hydras out when you see vulture spam like that. But he didn't see it coming..
@@quaco24 The problem is that you spend too many resources on a one trick pony defense like that and then you just get blown out by like tanks sieging. Hindsight is 20/20, you can't defend a build you have no clue what it is doing because you don't know where they are going with it.
first
Eww Zerg group
Starcraft mas vivo que nunca