Can this Legend beat ASL Champion and TvZ Specialist JYJ?

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  • EffOrt (Z) vs JYJ (T) on La Campanella.
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  • @husman
    @husman 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    keep it going Arty, your casting channel is amesome

  • @antonioangeloviii4748
    @antonioangeloviii4748 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Epic cast, epic game. Gotta love Arty's passion for the craft.

  • @tastethejace
    @tastethejace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That muta control for so long was amazing, and so much harder than it looks

  • @ssjarvis02
    @ssjarvis02 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Just found you’re channel and this is the first video of yours I’ve ever watched. I watch a couple other Starcraft channels, but I think you might be my new favourite. I love how you explain the game within the games, not just telling us what players are doing but why! Excited to watch more, just subscribed :)

    • @tastethejace
      @tastethejace 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow you're so new. He's been casting StarCraft professionally for over a decade and a half. Welcome!
      Hell I remember watching him and Tasteless casting in 2008 during the ol' GomTV days

  • @2slick4u.
    @2slick4u. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    God literally built Artosis and Brood War to merge together. I believe that if Artosis was not born, BroodWar would not be alive anymore.
    The absolutely perfect mix between the pro players pushing SC to its mechanical limits and Artosis absolute perfect commenting on top of the video is a pure blend.
    Without these casts, these games would be in the void.
    WOOT

  • @jrodtopo
    @jrodtopo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I guess this is another example of why Artosis calls defilers the scariest unit in the game.

    • @Sin_nine
      @Sin_nine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yea they just hard counter Terran super hard because terrans only melee is firebat
      and protoss has zealots but also storm on clouds just dominates it
      but if defilers didn't exist terran would just walk over zerg late game no chance with tanks and marines

    • @dj_koen1265
      @dj_koen1265 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plague against protoss is just nasty
      Defilers are also crazy strong in zvp

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman หลายเดือนก่อน

      Defiler is ridiculously OP against terran.
      Especially because tanks are a core unit in the terran army.
      Honestly to this day how you’re supposed to counter it effectively when you’re in a defensive position is a mystery

  • @BinxyBrown
    @BinxyBrown 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wow, ive never seen a zerg sac lurkers for vessels like this before, it makes a lot of sense to try and deny that continuous value that vessels tend to get over time though I really like this take on the strategy

  • @BlackOps2Sentation
    @BlackOps2Sentation 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love how in any game Artosis has a “The best in the game” attribute for each player

  • @donniem7979
    @donniem7979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hey artosis guys here

  • @joebazooks
    @joebazooks 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what an exciting game. that was neck to neck up until the last minute

  • @-LocoBolon
    @-LocoBolon 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:30 it is very sad indeed,
    every time I hear the name Jangbi I feel a little too much nostalgic. In another universe we enjoyed a couple of years of himsitting in the #1 Kespa rankings and it is now consensus among BW lovers that during his peak he showed us the best Protoss version the world has ever seen.
    Long live the Almighty

  • @ModusOperandi2009
    @ModusOperandi2009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very unique army composition from Effort. Crazy that he played the last 10 minutes of the game without lurkers.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was a very interesting game from a low econ point of view. JYJ never got rolling again, so Effort's low economy mix worked fine.

  • @AndersonWave17
    @AndersonWave17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That plague on the marines at the very end hit basically all of them

  • @neonmarblerust
    @neonmarblerust 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic muta control from effort! Totally took control, even though he was behind.

  • @SmokerFace12
    @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have sleeping issues in a minor form of perma insomnia, I love putting my phone next to my head and have the game play out like a movie in my head with this commentary.
    😂😂 4:39am rn

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You need to sleep. IF necessary get rid of your phone. Sleep is literally the most important thing in life. If you dont get it, you will slowly lose everything.

    • @SmokerFace12
      @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@majormononoke8958 yes, working on it 👌

  • @Repetoire
    @Repetoire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome game back and forth the whole time!

  • @tl763
    @tl763 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Artosis, I unfortunately let life get in the way of StarCraft. Your daily cast gives me my fix. It’s the same variety I got while playing myself and I can watch without devoting all the time it takes to stay competitive. Thank you

  • @christopherwoodjr235
    @christopherwoodjr235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great stuff, very exciting game. Love your casts

  • @CashMoneyMoore
    @CashMoneyMoore 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    crazy back and forth game

  • @nrednred5524
    @nrednred5524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Epic as usual. Casting is the cherry on top. Thanks ArtosisCast.

  • @YoungGandalf2325
    @YoungGandalf2325 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    That was a great game. It could've gone either way. Both players get an "A" for effort, but it's a "W" for EffOrt

    • @BenjaminGlatt
      @BenjaminGlatt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Effort starts with "e", tho.

    • @TC_WarDoc
      @TC_WarDoc 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BenjaminGlattit means win right

    • @ashuael5732
      @ashuael5732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TC_WarDoc yeah not being mean but he's probably a little autistic. that's the downside of this super nerdy stuff, you get these guys.

    • @BenjaminGlatt
      @BenjaminGlatt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The joke.
      @@TC_WarDoc's head.

    • @VersusAllOdds
      @VersusAllOdds 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh you rascal!

  • @JohnSmith-rr8hp
    @JohnSmith-rr8hp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can see how much better the Zerg has to be to overcome Terran imbalance, Terran needs a nerf badly and well done to the Zerg, which despite playing an inferior race have superior skills.

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pah, as long as Zerg is winning the game you should shut up about balance.

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gg, thanks for the cast, Artosis!

  • @xius0101
    @xius0101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An amazingly back and forth game! Would love to see some snow or rain or scan games!

  • @SaiyanKCM
    @SaiyanKCM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fantastic game. I thought it was over at least 3 times

  • @redda2
    @redda2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Terran so OP. Can do bunker rush, then quick expand while zerg does very quick low eco 2 hatch muta. Yet Terran can still sunken bust before mutas come out

    • @Larsgman
      @Larsgman หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only way you can sunken bust is with tanks and if you already have 2 or 3 sunkens up nobody is going to try and soak up those losses unless you decide to go all in and have built 3+ barracks at that point and skip going up the tech tree and just straight up just go mass m&m.
      Which nobody ever does either because if you don’t succeed they’re going to go lurkers and it’s gg.
      Also dark swarm is OP

  • @helloken
    @helloken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn defilers are so good. As Arty always says, the game changes once defilers are out.

  • @wowhowcool7020
    @wowhowcool7020 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God i wish we where in the timeline with eff0rt, Fantasy and JangBi in ASL. PLEASE

  • @jeremymeadow9872
    @jeremymeadow9872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @arty could you find some 20 min+ ZvZ games to cast? the hive tech games in ASL this season left me hungry for more

  • @deco90
    @deco90 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Zvp Style amazing

  • @Zraknul
    @Zraknul 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great game. Low supply and scrappy feels like an advantage for Zerg.

  •  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate hearing drones die 😔they make an irritating sound when the fall to firepower. If I was that Zerg player, I would be breaking my pc just of rage, cus losing 3 lurkers to that tag team would drive me crazy ❤️

  • @cavantan6731
    @cavantan6731 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Damn, this is crazily GREAT game !!!
    Never see Hydra combo Ling with support of Dark swarm and plague like this !!! MasterPiece !!!!

  • @Radii_DC
    @Radii_DC 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sick game, dat plague at the end...

  • @nathanspeidel9195
    @nathanspeidel9195 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Around ~5:08 JYJ had like a dozen marines vs like 8 zerglings and walked like half way across the map and zerg didn’t make any sunken or anything.
    Couldn’t he just have walked all the way across the map and rally more marines and won the game right there?

    • @neonmarblerust
      @neonmarblerust 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t have scouting info, if effort was massing lings jyj would have lost that fight. Typically zergs can get sunken up too, but effort was cutting corners.

  • @zabban
    @zabban 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love it arty i need mor

  • @ashuael5732
    @ashuael5732 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the skill level here is insane

  • @scytale6
    @scytale6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for not having a spoiler in the title.

  • @Benj-p5w
    @Benj-p5w 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    you are the best caster Artosis..LOve you

  • @overwatch3595
    @overwatch3595 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comeback from a zerg player. At some point it was 17 drones vs 38 scvs.

  • @j.o.2618
    @j.o.2618 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JyJ had a rough game this time. Seems like he didn't map out his base layout to beat mutas and was overall just sloppy this game. Effort did just normal muta harass and did massive damage. Either JyJ didn't expect a normal timed lair after a successful bunker rush, or just had a bad game.
    At 13:00~ minutes he literally sends scvs back to his natural when he still hadn't consolidated defenses. His valk micro was the most atrocious part of the entire game, as he literally threw them away against the muta/scourge blob without support over and over and let effort snowball his already dominant air supremacy. Definitely deserved to lose this game

  • @DerpHerper
    @DerpHerper 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing game. I watched it without disabling my ad blocker! I hate TH-cam! :)

  • @TheBryceWade
    @TheBryceWade 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do Terrans know that you can repair SVs?
    ~12 vessels popped because of no repair..

  • @rolandinnamorato1953
    @rolandinnamorato1953 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a masterpiece. great cast.

  • @uglyhobo4602
    @uglyhobo4602 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a great performance by both!

  • @felipediazflores1151
    @felipediazflores1151 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I always thought that hydras could beat, head on, a bio army if you have the right numbers, plague and some decent micro.
    FINALLY! I see it done properly.... after like 15 years of watching starcraft.
    The other one I'm waiting to see is that... you can actually save a ton of defilers from dying to iradiate, by ivesting in overlords drop upgrades.... you can't target a defiler if it is inside an overlord.
    So you will use it just like high templars and shuttles. You unload, cast your spells and upload again.
    But I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for that one xd.

    • @Bakerkill
      @Bakerkill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      sounds like a great idea!

  • @Plexzor
    @Plexzor หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome game, awesome casting 👌

  • @carlballz900
    @carlballz900 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Next" zerg bonjwa? We're acknowledging Savior now?

    • @charlescook5542
      @charlescook5542 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even flash said saviour had the skills to beat terrans in an era of terran favored maps.

  • @BLooDCoMPleX
    @BLooDCoMPleX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    God I love Hydra Defiler strats

  • @ottomann4846
    @ottomann4846 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick game, sick cast

  • @Morjensful
    @Morjensful 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow nice to see Zerg kicking terran

  • @Fanelan053
    @Fanelan053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome match!!

  • @The8bitFighter
    @The8bitFighter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Artosis, speaking of Jangbi, what happened to him? Is he around in the Brood War scene to any extent or has he completely moved on?

    • @richard3706
      @richard3706 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he came back in 2017 very shortly and got stomped in online sponsored games (he cited anxiety while streaming being a large factor), and he just didn't feel comfortable being a streamer (the entire landscape of pro play is based around streaming culture now), so he quit and works for his family now.

  • @usmh
    @usmh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The correct comp to play against T is defiler + any other unit.

  • @obstinatejack
    @obstinatejack 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if effort had expanded at 9 o'clock first, then he would have been in a much better position during mid game

  • @violetrecluse
    @violetrecluse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Insane

  • @jebi77
    @jebi77 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jesus christ effort is wild

  • @nywela
    @nywela 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a great game!

  • @thomastanner8547
    @thomastanner8547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hot damn that was a good zvt

  • @mattfox5933
    @mattfox5933 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why wouldn’t Zerg move to guardian scourge Muta earlier?

  • @greenwave819
    @greenwave819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why set up tanks and pull all the bio away?

  • @nifarious
    @nifarious 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing game is damn right.

  • @renetorres1159
    @renetorres1159 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    effort did it twice vs flash, both 0-2 comebacks

  • @seiaghen
    @seiaghen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wondering why effort didn't take the safe third

  • @karwannouri8266
    @karwannouri8266 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick game

  • @yellow6100
    @yellow6100 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All i know is Mutas are perfectly balanced and fair unit.

  • @superdrunkdnb
    @superdrunkdnb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick Stuff!!!!

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice of RT to feature a match played on a Christian map.

  • @CaptainXD
    @CaptainXD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    jyj threw this game so hard lol. let his marines autoattack drones instead of focus firing so he only got like 2. should have just kept killing mutas in retrospect. played way too aggressive with his marines and didn't defend his turrets. didn't manage his air units and kept letting them die for free. billions of vessels but no repairs and no eraser on the 9 o'clock base he was sieging.
    obv i'm not a pro and cannot do a fraction of anything that happened in this game, but he made so many mistakes and still had a chance to win

  • @ThunderChickenBucket
    @ThunderChickenBucket 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes more effort games!!

  • @ivarkreuger3098
    @ivarkreuger3098 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I see terrans suiciding plagued 1hp vessels left and right… Is it really not worth repairing them?

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Normally it doesnt matter for JyJ, but this game i didnt have the eco you have in a normal game...

  • @yoshitsunej1733
    @yoshitsunej1733 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey arty are we going to get the asl 3rd/4th place match on yt?

    • @techtte
      @techtte 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's no longer played since the previous season I believe

  • @billywilly1035
    @billywilly1035 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing game

  • @davdav1370
    @davdav1370 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ah, JangBi... :(

  • @admireinspire
    @admireinspire 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW.....

  • @tomson11
    @tomson11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are we sure that's Effort? Unusually low APM for him

    • @qbee3642
      @qbee3642 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean he just got out of the military. He may not be in best of shape and this replay could be a few months old.

    • @SmokerFace12
      @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was thinking the same thing, I think this is Queen.

    • @SmokerFace12
      @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I might be wrong, Artosis usually knows his stuff, the way this game ended make me question what I said.

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do be honest looked more like Soulkey, which is the best player with that style or action who pulled the dark swarm only lings some years ago.
      Though effort also showed how good he is with that style last ASL... Effort apm level until 11 minutes or so than it dropped quite

    • @SmokerFace12
      @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@majormononoke8958 Artosis his sources for gamer IDs and replays are very reliable, mistakes are still possible ofcourse.

  • @TheHealadin
    @TheHealadin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Counted no less than 8 vessels just thrown away, 3 of them at the end just bad rallies across the map. Sloppy.
    Also, 2 overlords just outside JyJ’s base, never cleared them, he took his last Valkyrie and just flew it across the map trying to hunt Mutas and immediately lost it to scourge, kill the overlords, an easy 2 outside your base that you knew about and another one at the 9 o’clock, that’s just free value he left on the table.
    Sloppy sloppy sloppy.

  • @willf6856
    @willf6856 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    crazy game.

  • @shkrosse
    @shkrosse 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing game.

  • @canabitter
    @canabitter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why do we call it sk terran?

    • @MrTheQuestioner
      @MrTheQuestioner 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It was invented by a player called SoulKey (not the zerg player)

    • @canabitter
      @canabitter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot! Didn't know that. @@MrTheQuestioner

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@MrTheQuestionerI always find it amazing that such a seemingly unique name was used twice and in the same game!
      Like I understand there being multiple "Hero", but "SoulKey" ? Is "the key to (one's) soul" something in South Korea?

  • @mrchocoborider
    @mrchocoborider 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @federicogoldberg6563
    @federicogoldberg6563 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hydras

  • @quan196
    @quan196 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this zerg composition is so nukeable....

  • @kjhlkjhkljhlkjh3428
    @kjhlkjhkljhlkjh3428 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anti spoiler

  • @jphone9200
    @jphone9200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like last ASL was fixed

    • @Globodyne
      @Globodyne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The ASL where JyJ won, he didn't win because he was the superior player but rather just a poor showing of most of the other pros and luck with matches.

  • @LORFCASTER
    @LORFCASTER หลายเดือนก่อน

    gg

  • @quanang8816
    @quanang8816 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damnnnnnnnn

  • @gosuf7d762
    @gosuf7d762 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    starcraft is starting to overtake theorycraft

  • @rodh2097
    @rodh2097 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me or do turrets seem fucking useless for something that can only shoot air?

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hahah, well maybe build more. It is so funny when you play on lower level they build much more turrets. And usually they are more effective there... Because muta micro sucks... On Pro level we see them often not building enough.

  • @rikterandersson3568
    @rikterandersson3568 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't care what anyone says, one of these days we will get a T-player that is really good at microing Valkyries and actually repairs Vessels - and that player will just fucking dominate. Shiesses we see 1.000 1.000 mineral/gas being lost in the span of 30 seconds to just a couple of hydras.

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that is the next step for T in TvZ. We hardly saw Firebats and Valkyries in ASL just a couple of years ago and now they are staple units. As skill levels keep increasing, like you say, the Terran that can find the APM to keep vessels and valks alive will dominate TvZ.

    • @CanariasCanariass
      @CanariasCanariass 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These players apm is already at the human physical limit though.

  • @balazs6457
    @balazs6457 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why pretend that bw pro scene died because of starcraft 2, when in fact it happened because of the collusions

  • @asdasdasdasd7628
    @asdasdasdasd7628 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this terran was very weak

  • @stevengerrrard
    @stevengerrrard 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    : )

  • @drewwalbeck6006
    @drewwalbeck6006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tell us the stupid reason you call it SK terran 😨 I'm tired of thinking it's "South Korean" terran

    • @gasstationpeanuts1814
      @gasstationpeanuts1814 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Popularized/invented by SoulKey, a pro terran from when dinosaurs walked the earth.

    • @drewwalbeck6006
      @drewwalbeck6006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gasstationpeanuts1814 soulkey the zerg player?

    • @HasekuraIsuna
      @HasekuraIsuna 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@drewwalbeck6006no, another player.

  • @SirWtfcharles
    @SirWtfcharles 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spoiler buster!

  • @Globodyne
    @Globodyne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JyJ is not better than Light, not better than Royal and not better than Rush with SK terran mid-late game, he is just okay or medicore for a pro.

    • @SmokerFace12
      @SmokerFace12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are out of your mind for calling him mediocre?

    • @Globodyne
      @Globodyne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is great at 1/1/1 builds and wraiths, early cheese early to mid game but late game yes compared to other ASL terrans, he is just okay or medicore late game. He is overrated(relative to ASL pros) just like Jaedong is.@@SmokerFace12

  • @nasanbekov
    @nasanbekov 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    первыйнах!

  • @karelvargos269
    @karelvargos269 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best SK terran player in the Word?Lol and what about Flash?

    • @majormononoke8958
      @majormononoke8958 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flash hasnt even showed up since he left the military

  • @buff3dn3rf26
    @buff3dn3rf26 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the cross in the middle of the map should be upside down. simply because gods not real. GG!

  • @Bytewalker
    @Bytewalker 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    insane game