@@knightshousegames I respectively disagree. He crushed all his segments tonight and his chemistry with MJF was fun while his in ring chemistry with jungle boy was next level 🔥... He's not perfect. But he's Sammy Guevara and he took leaps tonight and respect his continued perseverance to prove himself to AEW....
@@michaelharper6481 Except the people were almost sleeping, before he arrived. Also go listen again when his theme starts, there are less boos then cheers
And how the other three are nowhere near main event level yet. They just don't have it. At least not yet. They should definitely be in the TNT title picture though. Absolutely sick to death of Wardlow.
All of these guys mic game just seems very weak and bland, got no crowd reaction nun of them should be champion they’re all pretty boring maybe not in ring but on the mic for sure at least mjf can excite the crowd a bit
really loving the love/hate relationship of darby and sammy, cant wait to see the long term storytelling between them being rivals but also occasionally teaming up, also darby’s mic work is incredible and sammy’s improved quite a bit too
@NYC_Goody honestly, we all know it's bad. It's like we're parents watching our children in a play and seeing them get a little better each time makes us proud. With that said, they still have a long way to go, and the heel champion shouldn't get cheered for saving us all from bad promos.
I do really like Darby's work. It's not cookie cutter. It's Darby being Darby. He gets his points across, and he has a great story. People are looking for wrestlers to sound a certain way. That's not human. Darby's fine. The same people said Sting's promos weren't good or Bret Hart's.
@jonathanchapman4258 they talk about the future of the company, because they can... and you guys sobbing, and you guys want MJF aka fartjokes the shouter? get-out.
When Darby told Sammy that if he and Chris Jericho had a problem with what he said & for them to talk to him & Sting to talk about it, I got goosebumps because it got me hopeful that we'll see Jericho & Sting in the same ring together before he officially retires. I've been wanting Jericho vs Sting for quite some time now & with Darby mentioning it makes me hopefully we'll get Jericho & Sting in the same ring together very soon.
Props to the four pillars of AEW for opening Dynamite. Each challenger gave their reasons and beliefs why they should be AEW World Champion while the champion wasn't going to make it easy for any of them.
I appreciate AEW giving us a match from this tournament the same night. The anticipation feels highest when it first gets announced so I'm glad we didn't have to wait til next week to see it going down 👍🏾
Looks like they're trying to build Jungle Boy to be the big babyface of the story. They're brave to give Darby a bit of a heelish side to make Jack blue-eyed.
Darby is a babyface with a bit of a tweener persona (being an outsider with no allies besides Sting, who is accompanying him less and less). Jungle Boy can't be anything else because he's limited with any type of character work. Darby has the best gimmick and the most charisma of these 3 guys for my money.
Its within his character though. His only friend is Sting and the other 2 are just competition. So of course he'd be talking some smack, he's kind of a tweener here
I think you can see the different degrees with MJF being a cool heel. JB being a white meat(no pun intended) face. Darby being a Tweener. And Sammy kinda playing the same as Darby except more on the heel side.
So according to the segment, - Sammy Guevara likes Darby Allin and hate JungleBoy. - Darby appreciates Sammy and hates Jungle Boy - Jungle Boy hates Sanmy and Darby
They shouldn’t do a “ Pillars Tournament “ it should be a fatal 4 way at Double or Nothing or maybe they’ll announce it in a few weeks. Darby Allin is great on the microphone 🔥.
Aew is slowly bringing the value of promos back up. MJF has risen the tide. A lot of them are still getting comfortable, but it's really paying off that AEW trusts it's performers enough to let them talk and get practice on live TV. It's going to be hugely important to AEWs success
This is why house shows are important. Get practice off of TV to be prepared for TV. But they're getting better. Except Jungle Boy keeps burying himself. He needs better material.
@gmac1981hg the fans popped for the heel just because they got relieved of that promo. To Tony's defense, I hope he used that to determine who's competing for the title. Jack definitely eliminates himself. Hopefully, whoever is more over with the fans will compete with MJF. It's still a waste of time because none are worthy.
@@gmac673 he's definitely better because he's literally the best at it, but they are learning and doing well with it. Babyface promos are almost impossible to be great, but these did what they needed to do and MJF certainly helped make them look good and gave them a platform to grow from.
At least they're finally letting them attempt to improve on the mic. I think Darby is doing the best of the 3. He also is the only one of the 3 with any form of charisma.
These guys are raw on the mic. But you could tell their format and way of delivering, they are improving and will be tops in promo very soon. Also I’d have Darby as a top 10 wrestler in the world. He can go with the heavyweights.
@@Sydneysideliner they’re getting better but they’re raw asf. I mean they sound good when they’re limited but they can’t go more than what they’re limited to. Thats for main eventers.
Y'know, as much as Darby isn't always great on the mic, he's definitely got his moments. Of the 4 pillars, he's certainly the one with main event-er potential
these four pillars segments have been great. they’ve all been elevated so much by this feud. darby’s become amazing on the mic and sammy’s improved as well, jack still needs some more practice but max is an absolute star. love the chemistry and history between all them, cant wait to see how the four pillars storyline plays out longterm and really hope we get that 4 way for the belt
Revisiting this segment 4 months later. As bad as it was, it set the framework for things to come like the Jack Perry heel turn, Sting & Darby vs Sammy & Jericho match, Sammy Guevara face turn and a possible Sammy vs Jericho match in the near future.
I'm lost with the Pillars tournament. If it's just Darby,Sammy and Jungle Boy involved why not just announce a Triple threat match or announce all 3 will face MJF. It's probably gonna be all 3
Honestly it might be a bit late for this but I would have done it round robin, and if anyone can win twice they get it, but naturally they'd all win one and that's how we get to the 4way.
@@Hajun554 If they did a Fatal 4-Way and MJF won, you kill 3 potential storylines in one match. How would you believe they beat him one-on-one when they couldn't beat him with championship disadvantage?
Darby enjoing being "roasted" is brilliant. Otherwise he might thought "oh wow that's all you can come up with? that I didn't make it as a skateboarder?"
Darby has been really coming into his own on the mic since the start of this rivalry. Gotta build to more him and MJF shit cause he's clearly on a level higher than Sammy and Jungleboy.
This promo segment really exposed why these 3 pillars work best when paired with a vet (Christian, Sting, Jericho). As good as they are in the ring, their characters and promos still need a lot of work. Good thing MJF came out and saved the segment.
@@marufjaved6551 Darby has cut some good-great promos before, but this wasn't one of it imo. But in terms of the 3 pillars, he is the best one in terms of promos and character work in my opinion (especially during his initial TNT title run).
It might be an unpopular opinion but Sammy’s the most polished out of these 3. He’s so much more confident on the mic and this segment showed that so much.
At 2:57 I like how Sammy is relaxing on the ropes and watching Jack and Darby go at it on the mic (Darby is the only one of the 3 who did well on the mic).
Can someone teach Jungleboy how to cut a dynamic promo? Just because you drop a curse word doesn’t make it a promo that evokes emotion or captures people’s attention.
Darby has and is becoming Miz level passion and purpose infused with comedy on the mic like no other!!! I’m proud of this man’s evolution and growth wow!🔥🔥🔥🎯🤣✅✅
Man MJF is just the best on the mic, like he had a fraction of the time all three of them had and he still got the best pop, the best zingers, and made everyone want more.
They need More Practice in CUTTING A PROMO,, but it was good & mjf's presence was all that was needed in this segment.. can't wait for the pillars 4 way!!
Darby is actually the only one who really show big evolution on the mic with all duo respect to jungle and sammy
Darby dragged a bit unfortunately.
Jungle Boy needs to relax a bit more on the mic.
Sammy Guevara meanwhile stole the segment 🔥🔥...
@@jonathanoscategui2678 I was with you until Sammy....
Out of the 4, he is the worst on the mic, his delivery is always wooden and fake sounding.
Jungle Boy could be good, if he showed some emotion or passion. Good god, man, act like you want to be there.
@@knightshousegames I respectively disagree. He crushed all his segments tonight and his chemistry with MJF was fun while his in ring chemistry with jungle boy was next level 🔥...
He's not perfect. But he's Sammy Guevara and he took leaps tonight and respect his continued perseverance to prove himself to AEW....
Nah
I love how MJF got the hottest reaction by fans while being the most heel out of them, it shows how much on another planet the guy is
He's a heel he gets booed
Still got a reaction tho
@@michaelharper6481 Except the people were almost sleeping, before he arrived. Also go listen again when his theme starts, there are less boos then cheers
And how the other three are nowhere near main event level yet. They just don't have it. At least not yet. They should definitely be in the TNT title picture though. Absolutely sick to death of Wardlow.
@@phoxess I seriously doubt that
Darby's mic work is getting better, really interested to see where his future goes from here
DARBY ALLIN IS PENGUIN FROM GOTHAM
Darby is the only one that even has a unique personality between those three.. and mjf really makes them look like amateur hour
Darby sucks he’s not unique
Might go nowhere for mentioning the California clique.
All of these guys mic game just seems very weak and bland, got no crowd reaction nun of them should be champion they’re all pretty boring maybe not in ring but on the mic for sure at least mjf can excite the crowd a bit
"Ladies, Ladies, Ladies stop fighting over me. You're making me blush." lol 😂 😆
really loving the love/hate relationship of darby and sammy, cant wait to see the long term storytelling between them being rivals but also occasionally teaming up, also darby’s mic work is incredible and sammy’s improved quite a bit too
"incredible" so many of you are gassing him up simply because it's gotten better.
@NYC_Goody honestly, we all know it's bad. It's like we're parents watching our children in a play and seeing them get a little better each time makes us proud. With that said, they still have a long way to go, and the heel champion shouldn't get cheered for saving us all from bad promos.
I do really like Darby's work. It's not cookie cutter. It's Darby being Darby. He gets his points across, and he has a great story. People are looking for wrestlers to sound a certain way. That's not human. Darby's fine. The same people said Sting's promos weren't good or Bret Hart's.
mjf came and saved one of the roughest set of mic work I have ever seen
One of the few honest people in this comment section 😂
I still hate MJF
Darby was still fine considering how bad he was a few weeks ago
Man i actually agree with you
There's a reason why MJF is the greatest pillar. The other 3 pillars are mediocre at best.
Everyone was like Thank God MJF arrived
@jonathanchapman4258 they talk about the future of the company, because they can... and you guys sobbing, and you guys want MJF aka fartjokes the shouter? get-out.
These guys have elevated each other so much recently
When Darby told Sammy that if he and Chris Jericho had a problem with what he said & for them to talk to him & Sting to talk about it, I got goosebumps because it got me hopeful that we'll see Jericho & Sting in the same ring together before he officially retires. I've been wanting Jericho vs Sting for quite some time now & with Darby mentioning it makes me hopefully we'll get Jericho & Sting in the same ring together very soon.
Long term booking, gotta love it
It's likely gonna be that tag match, though. Sting shouldn't do singles matches anymore. He's 64 now.
Props to the four pillars of AEW for opening Dynamite. Each challenger gave their reasons and beliefs why they should be AEW World Champion while the champion wasn't going to make it easy for any of them.
@@NH-pi5dw he's a bot bought by Tony "Snowman" Con
@@SigmaWolff better than being a raapist like Vinny Mac
This was truly awful
Pillars?to bad all 4 of these pillars were in other companies before AEW..
@@jasonrodriguez8569 Yeah and AEW started promotion in 2019. Your point?
I appreciate AEW giving us a match from this tournament the same night. The anticipation feels highest when it first gets announced so I'm glad we didn't have to wait til next week to see it going down 👍🏾
I actually liked this a lot, felt more conversational and rational than a "ooooh snap" contest
Looks like they're trying to build Jungle Boy to be the big babyface of the story. They're brave to give Darby a bit of a heelish side to make Jack blue-eyed.
They always try and push him as this underdog antihero skateboard guy lol 😂
Darby is a babyface with a bit of a tweener persona (being an outsider with no allies besides Sting, who is accompanying him less and less). Jungle Boy can't be anything else because he's limited with any type of character work. Darby has the best gimmick and the most charisma of these 3 guys for my money.
Its within his character though. His only friend is Sting and the other 2 are just competition. So of course he'd be talking some smack, he's kind of a tweener here
Oh hell naaah...jungle boy gig is soo lame
I think you can see the different degrees with MJF being a cool heel. JB being a white meat(no pun intended) face. Darby being a Tweener. And Sammy kinda playing the same as Darby except more on the heel side.
So according to the segment,
- Sammy Guevara likes Darby Allin and hate JungleBoy.
- Darby appreciates Sammy and hates Jungle Boy
- Jungle Boy hates Sanmy and Darby
Let's be honest they all hate each other
We can all say The Pillars hate Jungle Boy
Basically nobody likes Jungle Boy 😂
@@beeaveragegaming3482 he's like the better looking Milhouse of AEW.
but everybody hates MJF
They shouldn’t do a “ Pillars Tournament “ it should be a fatal 4 way at Double or Nothing or maybe they’ll announce it in a few weeks. Darby Allin is great on the microphone 🔥.
And it will be the 4 way at DON
@@JacksonLane02 because Mjf don't want a 4 way match...
@@joaquimaraujo96 oh I guess that makes sense
I'm guessing some swerves will happen and it'll end up being a fatal 4 way at Double or Nothing.
@@shumworld Most likely.
Darby's mic work and tweener angle is awesome
Darby has stepped up his promo skills
Jungle Boy : Fearless Face
Darbi Allin : Wreckless Face
Sammy Guevara : Flexible Heel
MJF : Pure Heel...
When you’re heel and get cheer’s you’ve hit an elite level. Happened to Stone Cold and The Rock. Even as “heel” cheers came.
Darby still has a long way to gooo but nice to see him getting some mic time to improve…. Really shows the difference between them and MJF
Absolutely. MJF has the best Mike skills ever
he need to work some muscle and inject some steroid. he is too skinny. not believable to become champion
@@kennyomega8937 idk about that I mean we got roddy piper, miz, cena, paul heyman hell even last week sting basically owned mjf
Darby held his own last week
thats true too hes getting better
Aew is slowly bringing the value of promos back up. MJF has risen the tide. A lot of them are still getting comfortable, but it's really paying off that AEW trusts it's performers enough to let them talk and get practice on live TV. It's going to be hugely important to AEWs success
Another bot 🤖
@@kingolost5153 haha beep Boop meep moop. Yup, you got me 🤦♂️
This is why house shows are important. Get practice off of TV to be prepared for TV. But they're getting better. Except Jungle Boy keeps burying himself. He needs better material.
@gmac1981hg the fans popped for the heel just because they got relieved of that promo. To Tony's defense, I hope he used that to determine who's competing for the title. Jack definitely eliminates himself. Hopefully, whoever is more over with the fans will compete with MJF. It's still a waste of time because none are worthy.
@@gmac673 he's definitely better because he's literally the best at it, but they are learning and doing well with it. Babyface promos are almost impossible to be great, but these did what they needed to do and MJF certainly helped make them look good and gave them a platform to grow from.
Darbys laid back demeanor is refreshing
8:15 LMFAO ladies ladies ladies stop fighting over me 🤣🤣🤣
At least they're finally letting them attempt to improve on the mic. I think Darby is doing the best of the 3. He also is the only one of the 3 with any form of charisma.
are you serious? Allin has charisma? what video were you watching? In this video he lacked charisma...he had none of it
These guys are raw on the mic. But you could tell their format and way of delivering, they are improving and will be tops in promo very soon. Also I’d have Darby as a top 10 wrestler in the world. He can go with the heavyweights.
It's tough for them, they're not hopeless, but MJF is generational. Only a handful of wrestlers in any company could go up against him and look good
@@Sydneysideliner they’re getting better but they’re raw asf. I mean they sound good when they’re limited but they can’t go more than what they’re limited to. Thats for main eventers.
What Those guys they suck Like really suck. Mjf only one who can cut promos
It’s as if Sammy is the only one getting a promo class probably from Chris Jericho. All of them are raw, but Sammy did well compared to the two.
@@timperalta9430 Sammy’s tone actually was the least impressive. The best overall was Darby
These guys make AEW a better place! Thank you for that!
I want all of these competitors to fight MJF in a ladder match for the AEW Champion.
Yes please🎉🎉
FACTS.
Mark booking.
Sounds good
@@Newyorkknicks7575 it would be crazy if I could be in creative but I would definitely need help from someone smart to make storylines.
Mad respect to MJF for the nod to Teddy Long
The smile on his face when he dropped it too is priceless. How can anyone not love MJF lmao
Darby had a nod to Taker's HOF speech in there too
All I wanted to say. Lol.
@@syko2695 where?
@@roms3 "Perception is reality"
MJF acting like Teddy Long for a second lmao 😂
🤣
Playa!!
Love the Pillars segment. These 4 are the future of Aew
Damn! Darby is so good on the mic.
Y'know. I love MJF... but this is the first time I've actively been engaged in a title program since he won the title. It actually feels different.
MJF calling Sammy Guevara "Sammy Gwavara" always cracks me up.
Darby Allen’s mic work is outstanding his promo work is getting better
If Darby slowed down just a bit on his cadence, his promo would've been 10/10.
ok
Lmao fanboy
I agree man good insight
he def needs to slow down and work on his lines
Y'know, as much as Darby isn't always great on the mic, he's definitely got his moments. Of the 4 pillars, he's certainly the one with main event-er potential
Really liking the 4 Pillar segments hopefully we can get another after MJFs interference!
MJF is just golden. Never change MJF.
Darby been cooking on the mic lately. What a change. Thank you Showtime Sting for your influence.
I don’t understand why they’d want these guys to come out and bury each other 😂
The crowd seems to be loving it 😆
@@CornPopodopolis because they're morons.
It felt more like they were piling onto Jungle Jackoff for "unknown" reasons 😅
these four pillars segments have been great. they’ve all been elevated so much by this feud. darby’s become amazing on the mic and sammy’s improved as well, jack still needs some more practice but max is an absolute star. love the chemistry and history between all them, cant wait to see how the four pillars storyline plays out longterm and really hope we get that 4 way for the belt
Revisiting this segment 4 months later. As bad as it was, it set the framework for things to come like the Jack Perry heel turn, Sting & Darby vs Sammy & Jericho match, Sammy Guevara face turn and a possible Sammy vs Jericho match in the near future.
I'm lost with the Pillars tournament. If it's just Darby,Sammy and Jungle Boy involved why not just announce a Triple threat match or announce all 3 will face MJF. It's probably gonna be all 3
Learn how stories are told past a single chapter...
@@terrencepoinsett4169 true hh
Honestly it might be a bit late for this but I would have done it round robin, and if anyone can win twice they get it, but naturally they'd all win one and that's how we get to the 4way.
yeah it don't' make sense, should've done fatal 4 way
@@Hajun554 If they did a Fatal 4-Way and MJF won, you kill 3 potential storylines in one match. How would you believe they beat him one-on-one when they couldn't beat him with championship disadvantage?
MJF just can’t help but be great
And the crowd goes wild😊
Darby enjoing being "roasted" is brilliant. Otherwise he might thought "oh wow that's all you can come up with? that I didn't make it as a skateboarder?"
Allen darby and sammy guevarra is my fantasy idol here in aew.. they are both awesome and great fighter,❤️
It’s scary how quickly Darby is improving on the mic
This is improving? Damn he must have been just god awful before
Darby has been really coming into his own on the mic since the start of this rivalry. Gotta build to more him and MJF shit cause he's clearly on a level higher than Sammy and Jungleboy.
my god when that synth hit, that crowd went wild 🤣🤣 talk about saving a segment lol
THAT is how you hype up a main event!
LMAO
That was Awful
@@eugenefalcone I love aew
@@robinkithan5519 Congrats. It's great for my insomnia 😴
Man I love the story line these guys put on for the fans its getting really good
I can literally hear all the remotes changing the channel 😂 this crowd is hyped
Dude lol ...I knocked out, woke up it was 1140 pm ...and was like, God, that was awful it put me to sleep
Guevara vs Jericho NEEDS to happen. I love the seed that was planted here
Darby's getting better on the mic but the other 2.. omg they still sound green and get no crowd reactions
My new pillars for AEW is
MJF, Adam Cole, Ethan Page & Ricky Starks
Mjf is just gold 😂
Darby has come a long way in his promo game. He's the only one (aside from MJF, obviously) that actually sounds like he means what he's saying.
I really wanted MJF to say he needed to save this segment a la Jericho in WWF
MJF saved this, is crazy the difference on the mic, hope the other 3 pillars improve,only wrestling skill dont make a star
I love you Darby ♡♡♡ I love you Sting
Darby been sharpening his skills on the mic!
This promo segment really exposed why these 3 pillars work best when paired with a vet (Christian, Sting, Jericho). As good as they are in the ring, their characters and promos still need a lot of work. Good thing MJF came out and saved the segment.
Darby was very good here
@@marufjaved6551 Darby has cut some good-great promos before, but this wasn't one of it imo. But in terms of the 3 pillars, he is the best one in terms of promos and character work in my opinion (especially during his initial TNT title run).
@@jamesrodriguez3667 darby is way better then jungle boy and sammy thats for sure
Mjf described Darby the best; he's not a wrestler, he's a flipping stuntman 😂
All four of AEW pillars were speaking the very TRUTH, I love to see a four-way match at AEW Double or Nothing for the AEW World Championship. 🗣️🔥
AEW's production quality has improved a lot! The bright lighting, camera work are so much better. Everything looks visually stunning!
really made you appreciate how hard mjf was carrying them on the mic well sammy was ok
MJF just casually paying homage to Teddy Long was fucking hilarious. Dude's so good
Darby's promo is improved a lot
This is hands down one of the best promo and storyline of 2023.
All 3 of them had such a luke warm reaction, especially compared to MJF. Belt isn’t coming off him any time soon
It might be an unpopular opinion but Sammy’s the most polished out of these 3. He’s so much more confident on the mic and this segment showed that so much.
Ricky starks should be number one contender to MJF
Ricky is so much better than even mjf
Mjf doing a teddy long 😂
It really would have been nice if Sammy, jungle boy, Darby Allen, and MJF in a four pillars match for the AEW Championship.
The cheer from Darby when MJF pulled his name surprised me.
Love this segment. Should've been fatal 4 way for world title at Double or Nothing.
I love this back and forth
Is it me or they just seem to speak their heart out? No script.. just saying what they think... it seems kinda boring but it's actually kinda real
At 2:57 I like how Sammy is relaxing on the ropes and watching Jack and Darby go at it on the mic (Darby is the only one of the 3 who did well on the mic).
Yo they were going at it bruh holding nothing back this was a really good opening segment I feel like Sammy or Darby gonna get the shot at Triple B.
Loving these Breakfast Club esque segments
Such a huge difference between mjf’s promos and theirs, they definitely need work
All this segment did was expose how the other 3 pillars are not ready for this spotlight, except maybe Darby
He wasn’t lying when he said Britt baker is talentless! 😭💀
Love the MJF tribute to Teddy Long, "playa."
Can someone teach Jungleboy how to cut a dynamic promo?
Just because you drop a curse word doesn’t make it a promo that evokes emotion or captures people’s attention.
Love the Teddy nod playaaa😂
I better watch this live
Man that was god awful hearing those 3 talk , MJF saved this segment for sure even the fans got happy to hear MJF music go on lol .
This Segment just told us that why AEW needs MJF...
The "Pillars" are trash except MJF
Yup ...I literally went to sleep on this sloppy mic segment... i cant feel for none of them on the main event scene
They are improving on the mic, give them a chance
@@theblackarrow9347 I'd say Darby has genuinely improved on the Mic and that's no offense to Sammy and JB
Jungle Boy is beefing with Darby because he’s “rude” lol
Darby was really good here. He's improved a lot.
Darby has and is becoming Miz level passion and purpose infused with comedy on the mic like no other!!!
I’m proud of this man’s evolution and growth wow!🔥🔥🔥🎯🤣✅✅
This has to be a faction eventually
Man MJF is just the best on the mic, like he had a fraction of the time all three of them had and he still got the best pop, the best zingers, and made everyone want more.
I love the red white and blue ropes reminds me of the old WWF days back when they were actually watchable
Darby please🙏 he deserves it.
DARBY ALLIN IS PENGUIN FROM GOTHAM
@@yusufgazi7 Facts!
@@yusufgazi7 who do you want to win if Darby goes to Double or Nothing who do you want to win. I think MJF should retain no matter who he faces.
@@NonbasicYT Yeah MJF
Why? There are better wrestlers than him on the roster such as Bryan danielsan
I love Sammy laying in the corner letting it all go down.
They need More Practice in CUTTING A PROMO,, but it was good & mjf's presence was all that was needed in this segment.. can't wait for the pillars 4 way!!
This exchange just showed me how much better MJF is at promos... he had the shortest time but made it so entertaining
Yeah…. I kinda ended up skipping through everybody else’s.