How Christianity Changed History
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You said every christian area that wasn't Indo-European was conquered by the Muslims, that isn't entirely true, the 1 and only exception to that is Ethiopia which fought off muslims and even the Ottomans up until they eventually re-establish contact with the rest of Christianity when Portugal discovered them and started helping them fight off the Ottomans as fellow Christians. However I suppose your point still stands, the Ethiopian Empire was a warrior state which held out against any and all threats, there's a reason they were the only African country to never be colonized (no, part of the country being occupied during part of ww2 is not colonization, that's like saying that Germany colonized France or Norway, or more accurately it's like saying Germany colonized the USSR).
Yep, fair points.
@@popgabriel5327Ethiopians also boast that unlike other parts of Africa, major industries/factories are not owned by Indian, Lebannese or Syrian Arab Christians and Muslims like Senegal, Nigeria, Mali, Uganda etc. Post colonization, French and British banks gave loans only to expat Arabs & Indians in Africa to buy factories formerly owned by them.
South sudan eritrean congo indian part of the middle east the problem is that most christian from west only care about western history
this! and also the eastern christian still has its' identity intact even if they got overrun by the muslims
In reference to genetics, I'm pretty sure you came across something known as single nucleotide polymorphisms or SNPs or snips. These are very small variations within everyone's genetics mostly in areas that don't matter or the changes have no affect, neutral mutations essentially. This makes every person or organism slightly different yet the same so the species can still procreate.
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Reminds me of:
A single thread in the tapestry, though it’s color brightly shines. It can never see it’s purpose in the pattern of the grand design.
Love that reference, and it's definitely related to the common plight of modern man
And the stone that sits on the very top, of the mountain's mighty face, doesn't think it's more important than the stones that form the base.
So how can you see what your life is worth or where your value lies. You can never see through the eyes of man you must look yourself through heavens eyes.
Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me who am a sinner
After listening to this I can’t imagine someone believing that Christ wasn’t God. There’s no way that some random guy in Judea with nothing to his name could not only spread his ideas throughout the world, but fundamentally rewrite the structure of society for millennia to come. The only way to explain this kind of seismic change is that Christ was exactly who he claimed to be.
As a Christian I see this as an absolute win
Now let's see if we can preserve this system ☦️
Deus Vult
@@MegrelMambanow lets see what you do to preserve that System and If you really follow our lord and saviour, Almighty Jesus Christ. Or if you are just another random negative npc.
@@Humble-one amen to that!
@ananasnotpineappel9538 I literally said let's preserve Christianity. What are you guys on?
The christian system...
As a person who is scrolling through the comments, I estimate at least three dozen of them all began with "As a _______", and at least another dozen making the some form of the statement, "I consider this a win," which, as a person commenting, I would consider a win.
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so meta
I’m more interested in the psychedelics that he was talking about. Seeing God might be entertaining
as an atheist I have to agree. Most people in the west hold Christian philosphy as the basis of the moral and philosophical beliefs.
Whats funny is that most people dont resize how big the effect of chrisntainty is. Proving how big it is.
@@Frazier16 it's largely what's shaped out penchant for individuality and anti authoritarianism.
Bro I just watched batman the dark night, that movie was lit 🦇
And that's the problem. Christianity's insistence on passivity, meekness, & self-sacrifice has done nothing but water the world down. I'm atheist as well, but the Pagan mythologies at least had strength & vitality to them. What do we have now? A peasant-god, strung up on a cross. Trying to convince us to not live our lives to the fullest, to not take what we want & do what we desire. The logic of the weak.
@@KevinJohnson-cv2no allowing the common man to have a say is what led to the Renaissance, enlightenment, and our current post scarcity economy in which the average "peasant" has more control and power than most European kings and nobility lol. Without these ideas 90 percent of people would still be subsistence farmers with a life expectancy of 30.
Whatifalthist double upload is definitely making my hospital stay more bearable… cheers Rudyard
Hope you get well soon
Get well soon man!
Hope you get well
Сподіваюсь тобі стане краще, друже
Hope you're doing okay, man.
As a Christian I appreciate this video. The criticisms were honest and on point. This was amazing work. Thank you for this.
I was pleasantly suprised. I had gone off WhatAltHist a bit and then he encapsulated a lot of my thoughts about Christianity in one video.
We have shirked being brothers in Christ for rampant individualism and we are all the worse for it.
Our world if full of poison (medi culture govt) but we don’t name names?
@@user-bv8fr4to8kIndividualism and thus rampant individualism is what you get when you push raw Christianity to its conclusion
As a Christian, I think it’s high time that we bring back the fun stuff. The feast days, the celebrations of the saints, demonology and angelic studies, the rest of the Seven Sacraments (not just an “symbolic” Eucharist and “symbolic” baptism), the Sign of the Cross, teaching about the heresies and councils that corrected them, stained glass windows, icons, church beauty, monks, nuns, fasting, not shying away from science (because you actually CAN reconcile faith and science), organized church charity, formalized theology, TRADITIONAL HYMNS, and dives into the deep history of the early church. I’m tired of a stale, anti intellectual, and judgmental Evangelical church that’s barely holding on. I want a fun, community building, intellectually thrilling, and Godly Christian church. Hopefully we can move towards this, and reform again.
these still exist in ethiopia come give us a visit youll love the way we celebrate our holydays
Sure and while we're at it, let's force everyone to learn Latin again to read the Bible.
I like the beautiful churches, dress, community outreach, traditional music.
Much better than snake handling or the speaking in tongues and contemporary worship music bullshit.
I've been to so many popup churches as a kid and it left an impression that I'm still trying to extract from my skull.
In other words - return to Traditional Catholicism?
Join the Orthodox Church.
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I grew up going to catholic schools. Stopped caring once I left for college. Few years later, just like Whatifalthist says here, I realized (from other smart people), that my world view and beliefs are just Christian beliefs AND living immorally had made my life just not a fun time.
Decided I’d be a rebel and actually believe in something, started practicing again, decided I’d give living morally a shot and it actually works. That’s the thing about Western Christian beliefs - they can actually make your crappy life not a crappy life. You get a community from the church, better/higher quality life experience, I make my social circle/community/nation better by being a moral citizen and it’s cool that I share the exact same beliefs as my ancestors for like 2,000 years. There’s no real negative but you gotta go all in
So you want to stone gays and transgender people to death now?
@@nothingelse1520That's an optional career path, but, regardless, TTD and TGD forever
Based
I had a very similar journey brother maybe a little bit more dramatic I don't know lol
Although I am not Catholic and have clear views on Mary, Pope and Saint worship, I must say that I love the Catholic channel Pax Tube as well. Similar vibe to Whatifalthist.
I myself am Agnostic but the British historian Tom Holland made me realize how Christianity is such a huge part still of western countries. Even I who live in the Netherlands where most people don't really practice religion can see how much culture, ethics and such all passed down from Christianity in some way. I feel like many Atheists and other agnostics often don't wanna admit that this is still such a huge part of our culture in all sort of subtle ways we don't even think about.
I wonder how Spider-Man finds the time to be a historian of such caliber.
He can do whatever a spider can…. which in this case would be multitasking.
Or that many atheist beliefs only make sense from a Christian cultural stance.
I’m a Catholic and I praise your honesty. Honesty and Loyalty are two of my favorite virtues.
Those are 2 different british guys named Tom Holland. Tom Holland the author is middle aged.
As a christian and history nerd, this channel really brings both things I enjoy into two is truly a absolute win
Same ^ ͜ ^
Same here ;)
This comment needs more love, and I really agree
You need to see the video “Zeitgeist Debunked: Jesus Is Not A Copy Of Pagan Gods” because so many claims this guys makes on Christianity are so wrong. I don't know everything, but it's depressing to see his constant disinfo and false predictions.
Same. I’m a history nerd who attends a Lutheran church every Sunday.
Interesting that you mentioned how Christianity broke down clan and family structure. One of my favorite YT channels, Kraut, made a video about a year ago talking about this very thing. For those curious, it’s called “How Christianity destroyed the tribal family”
Nuclear > Tribal
Rare kraut W
The destruction of tribal family is of utmost importance.
Because in a tribal family, the clan patriarch is basically treated as God. He is always right. All moral authority within the family come from him. And when a sinful man is worshipped as God, all sorts of horrible things happen.
Tribalism is horrendous that's why Christianity tries to let people out of that negative way of thinking
@Daniel-yh9dz It's doubly ironic because in post industrial capitalist society, multinational corporations hate the small nuclear family unit- families save and invest money. But single adults, especially women, spend money and go into debt buying- clothes, tech, drugs, cosmetic surgery, leasing cars, trips to resorts, casinos, cruises, etc. Capitalism wants us single and lonely! More profits.
Idk why people dig at Whatifalthist. Even if he isn't perfect, he always makes good content geared towards truth.
He is merely a smol chud
No body’s perfect
He is human, and like all humans, he has flaws. Only a fool believes himself to be perfect. You make a great point.
He’s entertaining for sure, but his interpretations aren’t exactly renowned for their accuracy. His lack of in-text citations is a big one and it is the primary reason that holds him back from genuine credibility.
And he makes you think, which is a rarity these days.
As an Agnostic Athiest I must admit we have a Christian worldview.
Study the enlightenment. And history for a closer approximation.
I am an atheist as well, but even I will admit that the Christian framework of morals is the foundation of most every thing we in the west think of as moral goods.
The concept of mercy and having empathy for ones enemies is concept mostly found in societies founded on Christianity or Buddhism.
@@RealLifeIronManmaybe the two are related
Yeah and its terrible. 😅 even Jedi religion makes more sense then magic man in sky🤣
@@PhilosophersLegacy83
*Tips Fedora*
I think another aspect that is overlooked is the role women had as martyrs in the Roman Empire. I remember letters written from fathers to daughters who refused to renounce their faith. If you know anything about Roman fathers you know how big this is.
thanks for sharing that. Extremly brave by those women...
As soon as I saw the title, I knew you must've come across Tom Holland's Dominion. He has many great talks on his book subject too. Very illuminating.
Spider man:home worship
It’s not the spider man actor like the video states, it’s some old dude
@@BarrettCharlebois I took it as a joke but maybe he really thinks they're the same lol
@@off6848 it definitely could be humour, I’ll give you that
I as an observer from outside of both Christianity and Western culture have always been telling people that while Christianity might not have invented morality, they are essentially the first in the West to write it down for your easy reference.
Morality was mostly always based on individual excellence/achievement before Christianity. Nothing flipped the script like with Christ when he said even great men are evil sinners in the eyes of God.
The original Hebrews knew this too but Jesus took it much further saying things like even looking at another mans wife in a sexual way is committing adultery in your heart.
The idea of mental cleanliness and that even dwelling on evil thoughts is evil was foreign to almost every other belief system
Observer 😂
@@1mol831 I'm neither a Christian/Catholic nor a native Westerner. I think that makes me an observer.
Christians seem more like they're willing to give chances for outsiders to trade or join their communities. Thus, outsiders bring in information and skills from foreign lands at the time. Information and skills like engineering, philosophy, maths, and natural theories that are precursor to science. Mend all that knowledge into their politics and science in the late 16th century and onwards.
Please link the moral parts of the bible , Or even the koran and torah, Their is nothing moral about any of them or within in them.
Australian Aboriginal's of which i am one have had over 65,000 years of civilisation and culture and women had rights right up until 1788 when white British christian landed , Found out women have equal rights and started slaughtering whole communities of my people because god does not allow women equal standing in christian governed societies.
As a Christian, this video was way better than I expected. Also, that “masculine” portion of Christianity that is often missed is simply the Old Testament. So often ignored ,but so fundamentally vital.
Yes
One of the ways in which the Orthodox Church fundamentally differs from Protestantism is that Orthodox Christians see the OT as a context and frame of reference for understanding the Gospel. Then they go on to focus on the lives of saints, which provides a level of localization. While this prevents a lot of confusion, Orthodoxy lacked the scholarship that came to lend weight to Catholicism with saints like Thomas Aquinas, who was really one of the heavyweights of Western thought. Orthodoxy is a lot more like those ancient mysteries, having lacked that interplay between the laity and text of the Bible which set Europe on fire in the 17th century and led to things like the introduction of Jesuit scholarship. In Western Christendom, the clergy set out to substantiate their world view on an intellectual and logical level, which backfired after Origin of Species.
@@TravisJones812 awesome comment
No, lol. There may be muscular rhetoric in the Old Testament, but in the European context it is purely Germanic warrior culture. When the western Roman Empire fell, the church in Rome had no choice but to cooperate with and employ the Lombards, Ostrogoths, Visigoths, and then send haphazard missions to the Franks and Saxons. They told these people that Jesus was an immortal conqueror of death. The tribes own incentive for converting was that they believed it would lead to stability. Even still, the first 500 years of European Christendom is full of Germanic warriors kinslaying their family, and having concubines. The Christianity of Chesterton or Tolkien took centuries to develop. Chivalry itself is also a sanitized Germanic warrior ethic. Read “The Germanization of Medieval Christianity” by James Russell
@@bradyjeez interesting
As a Catholic, I'm glad I found this channel. Well done, friend.
You are almost certainly not a Catholic, and this video is heretical. The idea that Jesus Christ had a mentor is a heresy.
Catholic gang rise up!
@@LiamLoves atheism is truth. Religion is lies
@@LiamLoves Here! 🙋♀️
Excellent channel!
-Being a Christian is not being alone, whatever the loneliness may be that surrounds us
Impossible for mortals.
I guess that's what faith does to us, we put our, illogical emotions and place our belief in higher powers & maybe even ourselves to bare with living in a 'weird world'.
This. Individualism, which is one of the basis for much of West's success, is possible only in a Christian society because a Christian is never alone. He always has Jesus with him whom he communicates to. But in an individualistic society, if a person doesn't have Jesus, he is utterly alone, and that can lead to nihilism and suicides. This is one of the reason for nihilism and suicides in the West as they forsook Christianity.
This is going on the wall of my classroom for any students needing a quick yet meaningful answer to "Why believe in God".
I love Jesus Christ
No way, me too❤
Reddit is gonna hate this video lol
The last thing Christianity needs is another reformation to conform to modernism. The very reason Christianity is declining in the first place is because it's constantly chasing modernity and changing its moral structure as a result.
There are already so many churches today that don't even resemble Christianity and simply preach progressive propaganda.
If anything, Christianity should be providing people an escape from modernity and fostering a connection to our past. If that were to happen I expect the churches in the West to start filling up again.
I am 12 and seeing people my age talk about totally degenerate things like porn really saddens me and many of them claim to be Christian while talking about porn and sex constantly
Dont fall in with them. Its a vice. I know. I struggle with it
They aren’t. Or maybe you just have to make them clear that this is sinful and bad. And that should return to Christ and repent.
Be careful on here, not everyone who is kind is your friend, and not everyone who is mean is your enemy. Trust in God & the good ones in your family.
@@MaximusAugustusOrthodox sorry. Didnt mean to comment that other comment
Thank protestant ethics for moral relativism
Slight correction for 24:37
Constantine did not technically declare Christianity to be the official religion of the Roman empire. He was the first emperor to become involved in doctrinal disputes, he and his co-emperor issued the Edict of Milan which decriminalized Christianity throughout the empire and he was the first emperor to publicly say that he was a Christian. He retroactively attributed his success in the civil wars of the tetrarchy to the Christian god but it's a matter of speculation how sincere his beliefs were. A few decades after the death of Constantine, the Edict of Thessalonica issued by the emperor Theodosius declared Nicene Christianity to be the states religion. This is a mistake I've made in the past due to how much of an impact Constantine had on the development of Christianity but it's more complicated than him simply making the empire Christian.
Also, as a side note, the Empire favored the Arian over the Nicene Christians initially.
This is a basic mistake I'm surprised he made it.
@joecurran2811 There's a lot of misinformation, disinformation, and outright propaganda on the matter. Some of it is quite old itself.
@@patrickjanecke5894 I agree but this is something you can see on Wikipedia. I don't like to criticise TH-camrs but I thought that was poor.
yep i was kinda irked by this, i thought this is a common knowledge in christian history
Man, I’ve been binging your videos for years. I love it when you release multiple videos at once, so much new content🎉
15:59 Christmas isn't Mithra's birthday, that's a myth Zeitgeist made up. Mithras doesn't have a birthday. The commonly understood origin is that it's a Christianization of Saturnalia, but even that's easily subject to scrutiny given there's not actually any records of Saturnalia being celebrated on December 25 after the Republic's end.
Isn't December 25th the winter soltice? That day was a special time for many pre-christianized Germanic tribes. The mass of Christ as the Roman catholics call it was put that week in order to absorb pagans into Christianity.
@@RealLifeIronManNo, it’s December 21st. Also, we only see the December 25 date attributed to Mithra and Sol Invictus after Christianity started- so it’s more likely that they borrowed the date from early Christians. The reason Christians celebrate the birth of Christ on the 25 is because they believed a perfect person would die the same day they were conceived. December 25 - 9 months gets late March or Easter.
@@RealLifeIronMan The Christians that would have invented Christmas didn't have much contact with Germanic tribes. In fact, December 25 was floated as a possible dob for Jesus as early as the 200s. This conclusion was based on some very faulty logic, which asserts that Jewish people are conceived on the same day as their day of death and because they thought His death was on March 25 that must mean his birth was on December 25. None of this really disproves that the date was finally settled upon due to pagan influence, but the evidence is not as clear cut as we've (including myself) been led to believe. The only thing that's conclusive is any pagan influence outside of Roman belief.
@@Nasaj_Tengras to be fair December 25th was the winter solstice at the time
@@MalachiCo0 I don't even think that's true. It takes place from the 20th-22nd. If you have a source that states unequivocally that the solstice took place on December 25th from 33 to 500 AD I'll believe you.
I'm Catholic and I get frustrated with some of the way the Church is going. The Church is trying to conform itself to the modern world in the worst way possible. Rather than try to accommodate people who probably won't step foot in a Church no matter how open and inviting it is, we should double down on what principles make us different and unique. As a young man who is doing his best to get involved in the Church with my wife, I've found that there is a distinct Catholic culture that me and my friends share, it's crazy just how different my wedding was to those of my Protestant friends. There are lots of Athiests out there who want a community and culture, and quite frankly, instead of trying to appeal to gay people or the woke left, we should appeal to the average disgruntled youth who has no sense of belonging. The hardest part will be getting them outside. I put myself in this category as a young person but young people today are normally pretty lazy and aren't involved in anything. We don't go outside and pretty much need to be forced to socialize in person, but when we do, we normally have a lot of fun. Idk what the Church can do to really get these kids out and off their phones but that is what I think will be the key not only to a reguvinized Church, but also a reguvinized Catholic culture and a happier populace that uses Church as a social outlet like their grandparents did. I see this in many of the reformed Church's too, my best friend is Presbyterian and his Church is going through pretty much the same issues we are but worse, stay strong friends, Christianity has seen far worse times. There was a time we were fed to Lions but we came out on top. The Muslims almost conquered Europe several times but we stopped them, as explained in the video, our culture ushered in, what's arguably the best civilization on Earth. The boomers dropped the ball but we can still step up and reguvinize our faith and usher in a new golden age, it's been done before under harsher circumstances. God Bless.
As a fellow Catholic and history nerd, I’m not too worried. I figured we can just wait until the next Pope, as stuff like this is nothing new
As a 19 year old, I’m glad I’m not the only young guy trying to look for saneness in a insane world.
As a once/month goer to church (work on some weekends, and honestly don't feel like it on others), what exactly do you mean by Catholic culture? All I have seen is people going to mass, and get the hell out every Sunday. Some ethnic churches definitely have some more culture such as a few feast days, but the standard Catholic church across the street has very little culture except the mass--at least if you are a 20-30 something year old dude. There's not even any socialization--people just go, pray the mass, and get out without even saying hello to their fellow parishioners.
Not related to belief systems. But the disgruntled youth are distracted, no time to think because you must go, the soceity built up today by billionaires feeds this. I believe that defining your soul in an astetic sense and within a set of rules is what it all boils down to, and that's what many religions do. I don't even think it needs to be anything specifically religious, they just need something that gives them faith in themselves and thier inner world, and thus all other things. It is a matter of the paracosm decaying.
look into Orthodoxy ☦️
Christianity has proven itself superior despite all it challenges. I’m a proud Jesus lover.
It’s really just us screwing it up.
Christcuckery is only "superior" to European culture if your main priority in life is to keep the Jews as powerful as possible.
I love Jesus too!
To be fair, actual historical Jesus Christ was likely a rabbi of the Pharisees faction. Rabbis of that time period were not only priests but also lawyers, teachers, judges, academics and politicians. He was not at all lower-class, more like upper-middle class - he was from a very influential group of people but was not a landlord, merchant or of noble blood. Carpentry was likely a second job for him, as it was common for rabbi of the time to know a second craft as they needed to earn money when there was no teaching, lawyering or politicking in town.
Coming from a small town like Nazareth? Perhaps he served his local synagogue but a Pharisee? What did you base that off of?
@@catnappernellie1211 Simply on his teachings. He preached what many Pharisees rabbis believed and did it like a Pharisee too. The Bible also recounts how he interacted with other Pharisees, like Luke 2:41-52 places adolescent Jesus in the temple among teachers, one of whom is believed to be Hillel the Elder, one of the leaders of the Pharisees. Jesus also was fluent in Greek and Hebrew, in addiction to the common lingua franca of the time - Aramaic, which suggest a formal education of a rabbi.
Other parties would simply not fit either. Sadducees were from the landed aristocracy and the warrior class of Judea, they saw Judaism as a more traditional Middle East faith - less religious and scholarly, more political and clan-based, more similar to the paganism of Babylon and Egypt then to the Rabbinic Judaism we know today. Zealots were the actual Taliban of ancient Judea - militant and mystical, wheras Jesus was peaceful and well-educated. And the Essenes were too ascetic and community-focused to have ever produce an individualist thinker like Jesus.
Nah the Pharisees were dickheads Jesus hated dickheadery
"A fish in a pond cannot judge its place in the world."
-Rudyard 2023
I've used that axiom in philosophical conversations for years.
"Like a fish in a pond."
Great work as always.
Liked and shared.
Godspeed.
🙏🏼🌟
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
We call it “a frog in a well” in the East
Im surprised he never talked about Christianity created secularism since it was very prominent in Dominion
Fuck..shoulda put that in there. Well, the video's already an hour
@@WhatifAltHist Hi ! Since you didn't talk about the Reformation, will you make a video about it ?
The Roman Empire's strangest colony was *Ancient Israel.* The God of Israel was completely unique and unchanging. While all the idols of the Roman Empire were constantly shifting, morphing, and changing into something else, the God of Israel was the same yesterday, today, and forever. In Malachi 3:6 He said "I am the LORD, and I do not change."
Historians have shown us that getting drunk was very popular and encouraged in the ancient world. In fact, drunkenness was often times a way to connect with the divine. But notice how Yahweh is completely different and separate from everything else. In Ephesians 5:18 he said "And do not get drunk with wine, for that is debauchery." God always commanded clear minds and to be sober.
Lastly, the greatest Man who ever lived was born in the Roman Empire. That man was Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Unlike us, Jesus is completely perfect and without sin. He never had one millisecond of a lazy attitude or a sinful lust. As 1 Peter 2:22 says "He committed no sin and no deceit was found in His mouth." Jesus was crucified by the Jews and Romans but then He rose from the dead, 3 days later, thus defeating death and proving He is the truth!
"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life. But whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on them." John 3:36
It absolutely did. Thats why Jesus never sought to be crowned king in Israel or taught to create a theocracy. The early Platonic Monists used to refer to Christianity as "secularized metaphysics".
Christ came into the world to save its peoples and transform it. He still continues to change, mold, and save the lives of those who follow him. Thank you for the interesting video exploring Christian influences on the world.
God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
Obviously not to this depth, but this realization of the West being a "Christian Society" was the breaking point in me being an athiest back around 2015 or so. The further time has gone on since then, the more this holds true, and it explains a lot of what we are seeing in American society. Another fantastic video, as usual. You really are one of my favorite channels. Thanks for everything you do!
I don’t see how that makes much sense. Either you were never an atheist or you are not a real Christian
@@imperatorscotorum6334 Personally, I respect Christianity a lot, but still elect to be Atheist. Mostly because as an individual, I prefer to find my morality within my own sense of ethics and empathy, rather than a standard set by the Bible. That said, the fact that I'm even able to do so is - no pun intended; a testament to the good Christianity has done.
@@imperatorscotorum6334 Belief can't be forced. I have doubts that any religion is "the" right religion, but what we are seeing is a degradation of the Christian ethics that formed society. Above, when I used the athiest, I specifically meant the "New-Athiesm" of the '00s. An ideology (of which I didn't realize it was at the time) which spent over a decade post 9-11 poking holes in religions. When New-Athiesm attempted to convince people that "The West" wasn't built on Christian ethics was the point I started to doubt that Athism was just pointing out truths and maybe becoming an ideology of it's own. So, I don't consider myself Christian, but I do recognize that the ethics this country was founded on are, and the further we get away from that the further the country gets away from it's intended purpose.
@@Mattical1980 do you not wonder how it was that these corrosive ideologies came to be in the first place? Or question that perhaps, the very Christian ethics you're talking about are what facilitated their development? There's a reason the destructive concept of secular liberalism never naturally arose in the Islamic world, for example
Christianity is so woven into our culture and really made the greatness of what we are, and yet it’s being turned on. Funny
I'm an Atheist, and Whatifalthist has by far done a better job at challenging me and bringing me closer to Christianity than all others combined.
He isn't one of those "Christian Nationalists" or "Based Trad Caths" who identifies as a Christian because he wants to be a contrarian to the left (which I've made videos about). With the Christian right, I feel like I'm listening to a bully beating his chest who wants to throw me on the ground and stomp on me because I disagree with them (over theology, not merely values).
Rudyard is different. He tells me how Christianity has benefited the world. In my opinion, that's the right way to promote Christianity, not political contrarianism.
It also helps that he's a calm, humble person. And we're both classical liberals/libertarians, we we have virtually the same values.
Edit: I'd love to see Whatifalthist debate with Styxhexenhammer666 & Darkmatter2525 on Christianity.
I've made a playlist called "Videos by Whatifalthist and other Christians that challenged my worldview" and added this video to the top.
Adding to what I've said in my original comment, Christian Right wingers talk at me like I'm the enemy if I don't agree with them. And most of their arguments are little more than contrarianism to the left.
That's so off-putting and alienating.
WIAH talks to me about how Christianity is beneficial to the world. He also talks to me like a person and respects me as one, and doesn't beat his chest like he has rhoid rage or a gorilla.
Big. Difference.
Ryan Dawsan?
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 No, but a supporter. Though I do disagree with him on Russia and Putin, but I otherwise love him.
@@SayNoToDemocide1 God commands us to not judge others or even ourselves because he wrote the law and he alone is the judge. Any person claiming to be Christian and bullying you for doubting is sinning, falling short of God's expectations, missing the mark. Doubt is normal.
also democide is wack
@@SayNoToDemocide1 Thats because in the west masculinity has a pagan bent its all about being tough and getting ho's but for Jesus being tough would be like St. John getting crucified upside down and beheaded for his faith
The strange thing is, christianity managed to recreate its efficient, cohesive structure even in non European societies.. India had a small number of Syrian Christians in the southern state of Kerala, since 50 AD.. these legacy christians are the richest and the most educated community in the state to this day.. They are also far more disciplined and cohesive, compared to the Hindus they live amongst..
Most Christians in India from North to South perform very nicely in socio-economic indicators
In places like China, they were instrumental into making reforms during the past centuries. Sun Yat Sen, the father of modern China was a protestant Christian as well asuch of the elites thatade reforms in China.
@@Hoe-numan5 not always though.. Christians with European ancestry (Anglo Indians, and some Catholic Luso Indians) don't do so well in India.. They used to be well regarded in the past, and used to occupy pivotal positions in Indian society... But their culture has decayed after they began blindly mimicking their western counterparts, with alcoholism and sexual indiscipline running rampant..
Indian Syrian christians are of a different stock, and they tend to look down on these tendencies, which has probably helped them to stay afloat.
Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?
Oh, don't forget it's because the majority in India is hindu due to which you can coexist. Look at the original Syrian Christians condition and think.
Great video. For anyone who wants to read more about this stuff, the book "The Book that Made Your World" by Vishal Mangalwadi talks about a lot of the points Rudyard brought up in this video plus more, and coming from an Indian perspective he really touches on how a lot of the values and assumptions that people in the West, and even in the rest of the world, take for granted ultimately derived from Christianity
Its quite likely that Jesus also traveled as far as India before his last days.
@@off6848 I don't think anyone but some moderm new age types consider this to be true, but Christian tradition does say tbat one of the original apostles were responsible for bringing the good news of Christ to India. It's said that the apostle Thomas traveled to India, started the Christian community there, and was eventually martyred by the Hindus.
@@Tyler_W His uncle Joseph was a wealthy sailor he may have even visited Britain looking for tin the thing is we don't know what Jesus did exactly after studying in Egypt around the age of twelve but we do know he was with his uncle a wealthy trader with ships.
@@off6848 ive heard that legend
You should read: The Lost World of the Israelite Conquest: Covenant, Retribution, and the Fate of the Canaanites. One interesting point he brings out in there is how the ancient Israelites only required men to be circumsized. Most other cultures required both men and women.
So where dose it say the Israelites were circumcised that was a Jew or Jewish custom
and it comes from captivity and war not religious really some woman order something to bring back foreskin weird right and how the custom started lool
The fact that a son of a mere carpenter changed the morals of the entire world is pretty amazing he changed the world in a way Kings or Emperors could even dream of, in a time of violence and greed here comes a dude who said give to the poor treat people the same way you would want to be treated he shook the system that gainned off of the pain and suffering of the misfortunate absolute hero
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
-Church helped the poor against nobility???? It was exactly the opposite!!! Church has remained in power so long by using extreme corruption with the nobility as ally!!! It is perfectly explained in Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism”, and it’s outrageous that these books aren’t mentioned in this video.
What do you believe? I believe in Truth, objective Truth, Love, God.
Is it wrong to murder someone? Why? Because society tells you so? Because that would increase the average suffering? Why does any of that matter, the sun is going to explode! The Black holes will pitter out! Why dont you just do whatever you want? Wear comfy shoes! Have a coffee break! Hug your mom! Waste your life on video games! Watch movies till you drop! Rob a store! Force yourself on an unwilling participant! Go on a rampage! Take a permanent trip to the grave yard! Be a racist! Do whatever you want! There is no God, no rules, so it's all just subjective! Have Fun! or not....
That is if you have no life in you.
John 6:53
Jesus the Christ, Crucified, Died and Buried, Risen on the third day in accordance with the scriptures, attested to even unto death by His Apostles, and millions more, started a Church, Matthew 16:18, will return in Glory to Judge the Living and the Dead, and His Kingdom will have no end.
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
Ad Jesum Per Mariam
Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!
It was changed by violence....PERIOD.
Exactly and our year is benchmarked upon His birthday, 2023 years ago. (okay okey give or take the 4 or so years of disagreement, but it was Jesus' birth, not someone else's)
But no one would have paid any attention to his teachings had he not been raised from the dead. After that happened, people became very interested in what he had to say! Otherwise, no one would care what a dead guy who thought he was God said.
dang dude youve been grinding these hour long videos, good job. Dont burn yourself out.
I'm a pretty dedicated atheist but this is why I am glad we have freedom of religion because religion has its benefits to our society.
While I’m not an atheist (I’m a Christian myself) I think it’s tragic how many atheist refuse to see the benefits of religion, and many religious folks cannot see the boon of a secular society. Ultimately it’s a balance and I think both are necessary for a free society.
The best part about Christianity is that you don't need to believe it's real to benefit from it. Just follow the principals, and enjoy a happy life.
@@ryanward10 Or just follow logic. Do you really need the 10 Commandments to know those things are wrong? Christians didn't invent The Golden Rule. . .
@@thedukeofchutney468Religion doesn't benefit everyone. Hence why there are atheist. Im an atheist myself and I see your point. Christianity definitely has had a major impact on history and is basically responsible for the West's modern view of the world. That doesn't necessarily mean it's beneficial. It's very innovative though.
@@careyfreeman5056I don't think you were born knowing them, so I would say that you need them
Orthodox Christianity. Thers is a clear correlation between the decline and split of catholicism from orthodox tradition and the split into protestantism which was an attempt to regain Orthodoxy fundamentally but it essentially failed and "another reform" would ideally be a return to unbroken tradition ideally. It's quite remarkable how kept orthodox Christianity is and also isn't as "feminine" as catholicism, i mean... just look at the Beards! Seriously it really embodied the Cross part of Christianity through martyrdom and immense prosecution which it amazingly survived.
Brother, many Catholic still have beards. Just look at Saint Padre Pio.
Loved the video including the criticisms of my religion as they are true. I will say that in my personal circle of christian men, we are beginning to fight more. Fighting for our families and communities. Going to the uncomfortable places like bringing the gospel into prisons. Embracing the adventure like when Abram was called out to go by God. Keep up the great work. Love your perspectives
Loool there is no invisible man in the sky
We get it bro. You’re smarter than everyone else and you have it all figured out. Just leave the rest of us alone please while you live a miserable scientific existence :)
@@alexnolan6032 I don't know about rocket science or engineering. But I do know there isn't a magical man that floods the world because he's mad at 1 city in Israel
@@redwolf915 nope, there is not. There is a absolute truth, a creater that exists outsides the confines of time and space who literally spoke existence into existence. That same creater loves and adores you more than you can imagine and asks that you receive one thing. Although you and I both screwed up his creation by what we have done and what we have failed to do. He provides the gift of grace to set right what we set wrong through his Jesus who is God in human form. I pray you'll accept this gift and then walk in the freedom to love, live, and exist without any shame of past failures now and forever.
@@dannyschwertner7785 loooool so he loves babies so much he flooded the whole world and drowned them?
Do a video now on the spread of atheism. Japan isn’t Christian and it’s doing fine.
the fish inside the pond, and Japan is not fine. they have high suicide rate and top most lowest birth rates
I got “Dominion” earlier this year. It’s a game-changer! I’m 50, and I’ve been involved with political Christianity for 30 years. Read it, listen to it, learn from its history.
No suchthing as gods
@@redwolf915But aliens and extra dimensional entities are real. Retard.
@@redwolf915Creation needs a Creator
As a non-christian I see this as an absolute win
Me too and me too
Muslim?
Down with religion and mind control.
@@PhilosophersLegacy83the ethics is part of it though
@philosopherslegacy1983 The morals and values of true Christianity are important for our society to thrive, and come back out of this hole of woke ideological state.
From GK Chesterton’s “Orthodoxy”, the last paragraph in the chapter “The paradoxes of Christianity”. (One of my favourite books. This paragraph is a bit long for this setting but paints a poignant picture and ends in a flourish)
“This is the thrilling romance of Orthodoxy. People have fallen into a foolish habit of speaking of orthodoxy as something heavy, humdrum, and safe. There never was anything so perilous or so exciting as orthodoxy. It was sanity: and to be sane is more dramatic than to be mad. It was the equilibrium of a man behind madly rushing horses, seeming to stoop this way and to sway that, yet in every attitude having the grace of statuary and the accuracy of arithmetic. The Church in its early days went fierce and fast with any warhorse; yet it is utterly unhistoric to say that she merely went mad along one idea, like a vulgar fanaticism. She swerved to left and right, so exactly as to avoid enormous obstacles. She left on one hand the huge bulk of Arianism, buttressed by all the worldly powers to make Christianity too worldly. The next instant she was swerving to avoid an orientalism, which would have made it too unworldly. The orthodox Church never took the tame course or accepted the conventions; the orthodox Church was never respectable. It would have been easier to have accepted the earthly power of the Arians. It would have been easy, in the Calvinistic seventeenth century, to fall into the bottomless pit of predestination. It is easy to be a madman: it is easy to be a heretic. It is always easy to let the age have its head; the difficult thing is to keep one's own. It is always easy to be a modernist; as it is easy to be a snob. To have fallen into any of those open traps of error and exaggeration which fashion after fashion and sect after sect set along the historic path of Christendom--that would indeed have been simple. It is always simple to fall; there are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect.”
Eastern Orthodox? Or Western/Catholic?
@@auraguard0212 I believe G. K. Chesterton became Catholic. I don’t remember if Orthodoxy was written before or after his conversion.
@@TrixRNcorrect Catholic. He wrote the book detailing his reasons for converting
@@CatholicChatsA bad decision to follow a singular man at the top of everything if you ask me. Much easier for Satan to corrupt one man than a group of them.
It would be interesting to see an analysis on Christianity in Eastern cultures without the Christian values and how they mix.
there's kerala, nagaland, eastern part of indonesia
Jesus was indeed at odds with his family during his ministry.
Many of my fellow Christians like to overlook the scene where Jesus was in a house with many 'undesirables' and his mother said 'he is besides himself' (a phrase to mean 'possessed') and 'let us take charge of him' (meaning to establish a 'conservorship' over him in the same way Britney Spears Father did).
Which book was that? Don't recall that in the New Testament.
I love it when ~2,000 year old Greek texts reference Britney Spears.
They refer to human nature and that will play out forever into the future.@@normanclatcher
Santa claus also had reindeer and elves. Lmao Simpletons
@@KevvoLightswift That's what I mean. There are many verses in the Bible that contradict the image of Jesus that Christianity has established. I know some Christians who have been reading the bible for decades and never heard of some new testament verses that I point out. I think their minds just blank it out as they read.
Here's the verse I referenced:
Pay close attention to the meaning of the phrase 'take charge of him'. Remember he was a 30 year old man and the eldest son, yet they didn't go to persuade him to not associate with those people, they even refused to go inside and instead sought to lure him out. When Jesus was told 'your mother and brothers are here' he denounced them as his family and differentiated that 'those who love me are my mother and brothers'. Meaning that at that time, Mary and her other sons did not respect Jesus.
Why do you think Jesus snapped at his mother when she asked him to turn water into wine. People don't use the word 'woman' to their own mother unless they are irritated by them.
Mark 3:20-21 (NIV):
"Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, 'He is out of his mind.'"
Charles Taylor’s “A Secular Age”
and Christopher Dawson’s two-volume series “The Formation/Dividing of Christendom” should be on everyone’s reading list!
Bonus: “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” by Thomas Woods is a great primer surveying the incredible contributions of the Church to the realms of Astronomy, Physics, Economics, Biology, Engineering and Industrialization, Human Rights, Fine Art and Music, Geopolitics, Mathematics, Philosophy, History and Literature and the Humanities, and more.
Just picked up "A Secular Age"!
I've had many arguments with my fellow Pastors who all seem to think Sunday fellowship is for tame, milquetoast teaching that appeals to the lowest common denominator. As a result, the whole of Sunday service loses it's vigor, and become another boring corporate meeting where everyone has to listen to a motivational speaker talk about why they should do more for the company. I keep telling them that if we continue to treat adult service like an extension of kids church - where all we read are happy, moralistic Bible stories akin to Aesop's Fables - then we'll continue to create immature, half baked evangelicals that make us all look like uneducated weirdo's.
Gosh that Tom Holland joke was hilarious
The Pope should call for another crusade
the pope is too incompetent for that.
How you started the video is ironic because in this moment you're the fish that doesn't realize you're in a pond.
The Christianity you have been familiar with your whole life is effeminate and mushy but that's because society and Christians have slowly become more modern and less dogmatic, they've capitulated to enlightenment philosophy which is what spawned liberalism and classical liberalism will always evolve into communism given enough time.
We have passed the Christian golden age and are in what was described as "the great falling away" with 1000+ denominations containing lesbian female pastors and rampant eucimencialism which is contrary to Christianity's claim of "the one true faith".
I'm not a Catholic but the reformation really was the beginning of the end and is itself indicative of the fragmenting falling away described throughout scripture. That said the Catholic Church held tremendous power and did not use it responsibly which gave much room for the reformation to have valid criticisms and a slow but sure undermining of Christian doctrines.
Also the Bolsheviks weren't Christian but I guess their tolerance did allow that issue to fester. Funny the Catholic Church downturn was closely aligned with the Rothschild loans the Papacy took.
It seems it was first the Christian West, then Eastern Europe which were the falling dominos of the greater Christian world and now the sights have been set for America as it's one of the last Christian bulwarks. Funny in these areas the same subversive revolutionaries seem to show up. I wonder what their beef with Christianity is?
Perhaps John 8:44 or Revelation 2:9 can shed some light?
One of the most confounding thing about arguing with people about Christianity is they argue for christian even while they argue against it. They're argument is that Christianity isn't pure enough and they don't even realize it.
My favorite is "someone did something bad, therefore God not real". 90% of my argument against atheists end with this statement. People said God's Not Dead's antagonist was cheesy, but it's ridiculously true to life.
@@SeanWinters Atheist aren't actually as bad as pagans in reality most of them have Christian morals Pagans on the other hand tend to worship power and ancestors which makes them isolated from other pagan groups hence why they always got their asses kicked
Christianity is an ideal - not a description of worldly reality. An ideal like that is impossible for a human to reach.
@@hebercluff1665 It doesn't work even as an ideal without a worldly reality
As CS Lewis said Jesus was either a Liar, Madman or Messiah those are your only options.
@@off6848 I guess I wasn't specific enough with my comment, because I do agree with what you said. So, I'll explain my first comment in a little more detail.
The message on Christianity and the model of behavior it demands from us is contrary to human nature.
Examples:
- Christian ideals say that we should forgive our enemies. Human nature says that we should destroy our enemies (to create less risk for ourselves and lessen the competition for resources).
- It's male nature to impregnate as many women as we possibly can (a result of evolutionary selection), and it's female nature to get impregnated by the strongest & smartest man they can find (to give her children more desirable genes) as well as the wealthiest & highest status man they can find (to give her and her children more resources and protection to survive) - all a result of evolutionary selection. However, Christian ideals demand that we only have 1 wife and that they must be faithful to each other. This completely destroys the harem structure that comes so naturally to humans.
3) To Christians, Christ is the son of God, and he is a perfect being who is without sin. He's also always talking about how "his kingdom is not of this world".
4) The night before Christ was killed, the washed his disciples' feet and taught them that the greatest in the kingdom of God is to be a servant, and that the meek and the humble will inherit the kingdom of God. The logic of the world says that the powerful, intelligent, and charismatic shall inherit the world - "the right of conquest", if you will.
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The message of Christianity has always been that we are worldly, carnal, sinful animals that should aspire to enter the kingdom of God - a place that is unlike the world around us in every way.
By all means, we are expected to be like God. However, the logic of the world demands that we act selfishly.
I said that Christianity is an ideal detached from the world because to be a Christian is to abandon the world's logic for something better. It's to act in a way that's contrary to your nature as a human.
I said that the complete Christian ideal is impossible to reach because we still live in a world that demands ugly behavior from us. If we were to act just like Christ, we'd all be crucified by the angry mob (or some other untimely end.)
Thus, the most you can realistically expect from any Christian is for them to try their best to live up to a higher standard, only for them to often fail. (That's why it's integral to Christian belief that God expects everything from us, yet he's willing to forgive us when we ultimately disappoint him.)
53:45 “I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it!”
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“Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.”
- Ian Malcom, Jurassic Park
I would add the concept of education for children, women, and poor (before it was only a very few rich men) as well as hospitals (value of human life was not important before monks coming along to actually take care of people) being a huge contribution to the world from Christianity.
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
By the 1200s, eastern and western Christianity had completely split apart and developed on separate but sometimes parallel trajectories. Unlike most of western Christianity, eastern Christianity has arrived in the modern day with rituals, feasting, fasting, mysticism, asceticism, and both masculine and feminine worship still intact. Due to both migration and conversion, eastern Christianity (Orthodox et al) are having increasingly large presence in the west and provides many of the thing this generation is lacking in western life. I think the coming reforms in the west will be an orientalizing of western churches in response to the growing eastern presence.
To be honest, the Catholic churches still do a lot of the rituals, feast days, etc. It is more so the protestant churches that are declining.
Don’t bleep-out your words so well - we’re suppose to still know what word you said even if we don’t hear the whole word!!
The Japanese ambassador’s 1st visit to America is extremely fascinating
The painted George Washington in traditional samurai armor fighting.
The praised USA for its most just government
Most importantly, they was utterly baffled how our Society worships a criminal as god
Which criminal?
@@alexandrosstavrou4224George floyd 😂
Nah, Jesus.
but does the japanese know the context of it?
And how Islam destroys all of it...
Absolutely Based
The youth meetup at my church is always one of the highlights of my week, I wish that christianity can make more peoples lifes better too.
To me the end of this video is very inspirational. We have to be creative to get people speaking about god. We will come through...
This is a weird grap bag of correct and false information.
Can you give an example of false information in this?
@@gatergates8813 That Christians believed in foreign Gods being Gods, they believed they were daemons. I'd have to go through the video again there were lots of odd statements. Esoterism for example is not religious truth, it's highly contentious and largely not recognised as valid at all even in very 'theologically loose' churches. He's also not separating liberal ideology from Christian thought nearly enough, French style liberalism includes a direct inversion of the Christian moral system.
Just chill with the historical records of Jesus, you don't really know what are you talking about.
4:20 a minor correction, Dominion wasn't written by the actor Tom Holland but instead by the English Author and Historian Tom Holland, a separate person entirely.
Low IQ person did not understand obvious joke.
Grifting Christians is too easy.
Yeah i thought he was joking at first lol
Came into the comments to find out if anyone else had picked that up!
It’s funny to imagine them being the same person tho
Oddly enough, as a Christian, your criticisms of the religion are the most vital points that need to be heard! They are on the mark on what we need to work on. I absolutely loved the history aspect and the positives as well. Thank you for an informative and honest take ❤🙏 very well done ! God bless you!
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
This is really high level meta thinking. The amount of knowledge you need to put something together like this is impressive.
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestingly enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-“Communism was an atheist ideology which killed millions. Therefore, atheism is bad”. That’s as ridiculous as saying “black people like Oj Simpson we’re murderers, therefore, all black people are murderers.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
Also WEIRD???? Mate you just admitted that most christians are in africa, asia and south america.
4:21 Dude, I literally bought Dominion for my dad on his birthday.
We're both atheists, but I thought it'd be an interesting read.
I would consider myself a conservative evangelical Christian, but you mentioned in the video that Christians seem to have lost a culture of manliness and just wanted to see if you had heard of a new book that came out called "The War on Men" by Doctor Owen Strachan? I haven't read it, but I helped run the conference where he released it just recently and during his teachings he touched on a lot of the issues the book covers. It seems like this book addresses that idea you posited and was wondering what your thoughts were on it?
In the modern day masculinity is all about how many hos you can get and thats not a classic Christian interpretation of masculinity so they can go kick rocks.
Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?
As for the science, its usually framed as opposed to Christianity when in reality its the opposite. I remember i asked my mormon classmate in 7th grade if he believed in science and he gave the same explanation. It made a lot of sense.
Mormons aren’t Christian, though you can put them under “Christianity” they aren’t saved according to traditional Christianity. They follow Joseph smith, often like how Muslims follow Muhammad
I didn't even watched the video yet but i must say that it is a work of art.
The idea that Mithras birthday was on the 25th is myth, Much about the cult of Mithras is only known from reliefs and sculptures. as per the wikipedia page. any similarities to christianity are probably copies rather than the other way around. note that the date of Christ birth is also a later accretion to the faith and pretty much arbitralrily chosen
To answer your question for Christians about what it would take to launch a "reformation" of Christianity: It will be something that comes out of picking up the gauntlet laid down by Christian Nationalists, such as Doug Wilson and Stephen Wolfe. Implicit in both their work is a call, among others, to what we might call a martial spirit. One of the many things that angered men of his own denomination (the PCA, which is my denomination, too) is Wolfe's chastising Christian men for being (my summation, not his word) sissies. Similar stirrings are to be found in Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy here in the US. Note: I am not saying that Christian Nationalism is the "reformation" but rather that the vitality of such a reformation will come from men and women moved by the same visceral reaction.
Good work on this one, Rudyard.
Sorry, but I'm never going to be able to get behind something that is no more plausible than the Odyssey. I get your point about the value of religion as a cohesive force for a civilization, but man, can't we come up with something that is actually believable in the modern world. I'd love to believe, but it's literally impossible for me.
Dude, ideas and ideologies are like buildings right?
if you want the philosophy MAKE THE FUCKING BLUEPRINT otherwise stop bitching about outdated and recycled religious ideals being overused, yeah obviously we need a new worldview but nobody is saying what the fundamental idea is are they?
Look up Carl Jung's personal beliefs, specifically the synchronicity
Funny that you can't use the Illiad as your example since Troy was found to have actually existed
@@danielutriabrooks477 So, the river Styx and a bath in immortality too? Warring gods backing favorites? We can do this all day.
@@careyfreeman5056 Nickpicking others' retorts, impressive
Wait, did this dude unironically say that romans were "toxic masculine"?
got ya. You are pulling strings to accelerate adeptus mechanicus foundation. Chicky
In terms of coming to the conclusion that love is the most important thing in the world it’s worth remembering that 500 years before Christ Aristotle concluded that filia, brotherly love, was the real foundation of a healthy polis. Also, the Ancient Greek word for freedom was “Elutheria” which roughly translates as “to arrive at the place of love”. Also, the linguist root of the English word freedom traces back to the proto-Indo-European word for “beloved”. None of this is meant to take away from Christ’s ministry. It’s just worth noting that orthopathos (“correct passions”) and love specifically were already understood as a moral imperative in the preChristian west. What Christ taught can thus be best understood as a Hellenized interpretation of the Judaic scriptures.
Friday, October 13 is actually a very auspicious day from a Christian perspective, it's only bad luck for bad people.
Thanks for the video, you're doing God's work
Not sure the Templars were bad, the Catholic Church even says today they were not guilty of the crimes they were accused of.
@@NeilOB9 the Catholic Church says a lot of things, especially this pope. I've read into it a bit (a couple modest books, not wikipedia) and while there are good arguments all around, the accusations seem to me to be more likely to be true than not. Ultimately, though, neither of us will probably ever know.
I think they get a lot of sympathy because their confessions were tortured out of them, which is obviously not a legitimate way to get a confession and the sympathy is well deserved. That being said, dozens of templars from across the breadth of Europe, made identical confessions on the same days, without having the opportunity to confer with one another. This, I think, is my most compelling anecdote. Also, there are many books written by high degree freemasons publically available which express their conviction that the accusations were also true.
At any rate, today is only unlucky for Templars and perhaps freasons, but not most of us
Never knew that. Not that I’m scared of Friday the 13th (not that I plan on camping on one of those days), but that’s good to know
No such thing as god
Well, that was a shitty video, wasn’t it? Some of the massive mistakes it makes:
-We have no trustable source which can prove that either Nero or Caligula were cruel or incompetent. All we know about them was written long after their deaths from non objective writers. Nevertheless, we know for sure that Nero was fan of music and poetry, and was named emperor against his will.
-There’s a reason for the best philosophers to be Greek: Early Catholicism wiped out all of it since everything you need to know is in the Bible and to want to know or discover something beyond it is a sin. Therefore, christianism promotes ignorance and always did.
-Message of Jesus was kinda obvious and there was little to nothing innovative about it. He didn’t say (or even suggested) that women should work, or that gays should be left alone. He didn’t either condemn slavery openedly, since “all men are equal in the eyes of God” is a blurry sentence which can be interpreted in many different ways.
-The only two things he said which really changed the world is that there is only one God and that all your daily actions should be based on Him. And you could make the case that there’s nothing positive about it.
-Greedyness of Catholic Church played a major role in Rome’s fall.
-Christianism has never allowed any kind of self criticism. Never. The consequences of this toxic, narcissistic approach led to Martin Luther, Protestantism and bloody religious wars.
-Most of the invents of Christian countries during the Middle Ages appeared really slowly compared to Ancient Greek, Rome and Egypt, specially considering that Middle Ages era lasted about 1.000 years.
-Interestfully enough, what took us away from this braindead mode was Illustration period and its anti-church approach which would lead us to Modern Industry, French Revolution, and Workers’ rights.
-Middle Ages was an extremely cruel period since Feudal Kings used continuously its peasant as cannon fodder. And again: this lasted thousand years.
-Christianism, like most of religions, promotes brainwashing and extreme submission because only with these things you can make it successful, since it has no real useful value because... no religion has. Religion is just based on superstition and myths, that’s all.
On the end, to make such a video without mentioning Deschner’s “Criminal History of Christianism” is ridiculous.
Christianity being necessary for the invention of the scientific method? Ibn al-Haytham and the Islamic Golden Age are in general contributed quite a bit to that, though idk if all people would consider him the father of the scientific method
Hey it’s sawyer from lost
This is genuinely interesting. I am a Muslim so most of my view of the world and principle/morality came from Islam. Hearing other view is quite an experience in itself and I do think all religion played a huge role becoming a guide for humanity one way or another. I do wonder that can humanity really escape from religion (just my nugget of thought).
I sympathize with Muslim brothers because we worship the same Father but the idea that God came down in a body and died for us is a huge barrier but how else could God sacrifice and die for us if he didn't come as a man? The spirit of God cannot die and so the Father/Aba/Allah could not show love and sacrifice for his children if he didn't come down.
Not trying to preach but I'm compelled to share this truth
@iwatchyoutube4179 Could you provide a good channel or video where I can learn more about the Islamic principles and morality? I'd be interested to see the similarities and differences.
we can but if we do so its back to the stone ages
@@popgabriel5327 dr zakir naik. He's speech is intresting.
Looks up 'Nabi Asli' that is a world-view eye-opener.
I just LOVE that you list everything you read.
If Christianity was hated in the Roman days because it’s a completely new take on religion, it’s kinda similar the communism religion is hated nowadays in the capitalism world. Romans purged Christianity at the beginning but later accepted it, do you think the US is going down that path with communism or socialism maybe in a few generations?
"Christianity doesn't need youth counselors, it needs another reformation to survive." That was incredibly based. I haven't heard one sentence hit that hard in forever. And that's coming from a Christian, although I'm non-denominational and disagree with a lot of what modern denominations teach.
Especially the “sparkle creed”
Im agnostic and they make me wanna go crusader.
Its a pretty typical talking point, "guys we need to re-brand and sell the same repackaged slop to the masses!".
@@joshuawadsworth6417I had to look up the sparkle creed and cant accept that it isn't a joke.
Guys, look up project reconquista.
@@bikesrcool_1958 Operation Reconquista? Project reconquista was the plan to take Spain back from the Muslims.
Damn Rudyard, you’re pumping out content like a madman.
This was one of the best videos that I've heard on Christianity in a while. Thank you. I believe that you are correct and it just needs to be accepted. Our society tends to think that it's so smart when in reality it's looking way more ignorant as time goes by. Thank you for the video and I look forward to the videos you say your going to make.
Just finished Dominion. It is phenomenal. It is just as you say: everything is drawn from the seedbed of Christianity. This episode is right on the money
"Seedbed" of Christianity...
And Christianity actually has a parable about that!!
Hello, just a question, this youtuber has put so many books as sources in his bibliography, do you really believe he read them all?
I take it on good faith he has, but I have no way of truly knowing. Let’s ask the guy. Dominion by Tom Holland is a very long book. @whatifalthist have you read it?
@@gonzly you never know, he may answer
@@gonzly It's his full-time job to do this kind of research. I wouldn't doubt that he reads a lot.
22:47 - Interestingly, the Romans viewed the Jews as backwards due to the Jews practicing polygamy. Christianity culturally appropriated the theory of monogamy from the Romans, combined it with the Judaism's strict prohibition against adultery, and put it into practice.
And they took the aggressive homophobia and gender roles from the jews and romans while also leaving room for androgynous characteristics in Jesus himself to appear more universal.
at roman times Jews were no longer practicing polygamy.
First temple Judaism and Second temple Judaism are in many ways 2 separate cultures.
@@shelbyspeaks3287 Homophobia was the norm throughout most cultures. Those who say "I'm not homophobic, because I'm not afraid of homosexuals." don't realize that "phobia" can also mean "aversion to" (e.g. hydrophobic molecules).
Homosexuality, much like left-handedness, comes with its own challenges and comorbidities.
For left-handedness, most technologies are designed for righties. Lefties also suffer from a higher rate of certain mental illnesses that are probably the result of brain development rather than simply being society's fault. Ditto for homosexuals. Interestingly, an unusually high percentage of U.S. presidents are left-handed.
For homosexuality, the human sex organs did not evolve for this purpose - it's an emergent phenomenon. That doesn't make it wrong.
Regardless of whether it's man/man or man/woman, the anal route poses a much higher risk of contracting STD's - way more than sharing needles. Today, it's HIV, while in ancient times, it was probably syphilis. Female homosexual sex, on the other hand, is "cleaner" than even heterosexual sex.
Interestingly, while any type of sex outside marriage was considered wrong, it was male homosexuality that was specified as a capital offense in the Hebrew Bible.
I would imagine a strong taboo around homosexuality means that while fewer people will practice it, a higher percentage of those who do practice it openly will be people who don't care about being branded freaks. This, in turn, would include a crop of sociopaths, libertines, and exhibitionists who tarnish the reputation of homosexuality as a concept. Differences in brain development might account for some of this too.
Traditional marriage for homosexuals is a fairly new concept, and it'll be interesting to see how it works out in the long run. I would like to see a society which tolerates homosexuality, but does not tolerate exhibitionism or promiscuity, whether straight or gay. These things offend my conscience at a deep, instinctive level. That's probably no accident - they are unsanitary and create bad developmental environments for children (or none at all).
Gender roles were invented by over 500 million years of evolution, regardless of what a creationist will tell you. As smart as we are, we apes can't escape our own mammalhood, and it would be foolish to even try.
Now, could you explain how Jesus was androgynous? I read all the gospels, and didn't really get that idea.
As I Christian I’d say most serious believers turn to orthodoxy because it’s not as legalistic as Catholicism and is more mystic in a way and it still venerates saints and is beautiful unlike modern day Protestantism, which is dull bland and boring.
Very true, same journey.
46:16 LOL RUDYARD IS SO BASED
I would love to see a Buddhist version, as a Buddhist myself.
Buddhism is a foundation of east and south east asia civilization. Buddhism taught pacifism and putting away greed. And because of how cultures influence each other, it is important to discuss China. Buddhism blended with Confucianism when it entered China. Confucianism in China taught family loyalty, the importance of education, and bureaucratic order.
@@RealLifeIronManthanks.
isn't it a core belief in modern Buddhism that Buddhism is cyclical and that the current incarnation is in decline?
@@spacejunk2186 Yes and no. What you are refering to is a kalpa or kappa. Buddhism borrowed this concept of the universe ending and being recreated over and over again from Hinduism. By definition the universe is always headed towards entrophy so every incarnation is always headed towards decline; not just this one.
That being said Buddhism has many branches. Not all of them put an empathsis on this concept and some don't teach it at all.
Where are you from?
13:50 It's not a subset of Hinduism, its a movement within it. And you're wrong about the part that it didn't spread. In fact, the Bhakti movement started in Tamil Nadu and spread throughout india in the following centuries and directly influenced the birth of Sikhism. So no, Christianity isn't really special in this regard.
When people ask me if I’m religious, I say not particularly… unless there’s a holy war coming. If that’s the case, I’m Christian baby!
Could you do a video on how the big 3 denominations (Catholic, Protestant and Orthodox) influence their respective societies? I know you did one on Orthodoxy, but a Catholic vs Protestant civilization video would be interesting
Orthodoxy is not a denomination. It's the trunk.
Everyone needs a foundation. I chose Christianity. I've been without it, and I floundered. Christianity is a solid foundation to build the rest of your life on due to its principles. At 50, I couldn't be happier with Christianity as my cornerstone. It encourages individuality, it nutures truth, and accepts my very human flaws... and that's all in its doctrine! Christianity is the very epitome of freedom.
Would you say know God personally or his your belief more just rules to live by?
I don’t say this lightly….this video is profoundly important and every single minister in the Christian faith needs to watch and respond accordingly