Wheel Balancing: Why Do My Balanced Wheels Still Shake?
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- Wheel Balancing: On some cars, a traditional wheel balance can't fix steering wheel vibration caused by excessive wheel and tire runout and force variation. This video demonstrates wheel and tire runout and force variation. Learn how the Road Force wheel balancer by Hunter Engineering Company road tests the wheel as if it is rolling down the road to correct common tire vibration problems.
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This has been driving me crazy for 2 years, brand new Micheline truck tires and a problem since day 1.... thanks
I got these 31" Kelly TSRs for my jeep last July and (other than the normal rumbling sound on smooth pavement) it was fine until a few months ago. Both my front tires had developed a helicopter like sound and the tire expert balances them and asked me to rotate them to opposite rear locations. So I'm hoping that the helicopter sound goes away when the tires start to wear evenly (as the tire expert said). They were slightly used when I purchased them and I only did about eight thousand kms on them before this helicopter sound started. The vibration that happens over 40kmph had me worries about the rear driveshaft but the sound and vibration go away if I put non off road tires in the back. And there is no steering vibration (other than the typical old jeep vibration)
Boy just this week I received a full front end alignment AND a new OEM Ford Ranger left side front truck rim with the already-existing "suspect" tire remounted same front left location again.
I wonder if rotating set of tires could have taken care of shaking over 55. But now after seeing this video regardless where suspect Tire relocated differently it still would have been that imperfect oval similar to flatspot.
Thankfully I live in a big city like Chicago where there is several tire shops within a mile.
Very informative i did weel balancing and tyre rotation after that i hear humbing sound in my car while driving
This is why hunter is the best .
excellent video. Very good information
Regarding similar topic...
Back in 1987 when GM began promoting brushed aluminum rims we soon learned that outside weights pressed against this shiny Chrome alternative trapped road salt here in the northern states resulting in our Beauty mags pitting out.
As aluminum has a unique way of rusting even if coated with some clear coat protection back then.
My formula 350 SLP W6 Pontiac dealer was happy to put weights on the inside as alternative which seem to catch on because one rarely sees visible weights on common rims today.
Since similar to Corvette, anytime I rotated tires on my Firebird. Tires were not only mono directional but the original OEM rims had to stay in place and never could be rotated from front to back.
I guess I forgot to remind the first tire shop assuming that they already knew this.
But imagine their surprise when attempting to pull car out from the bay they could only smoke the rear tires while back rims brought forward stayed solidly locked.
Hello, I asked if you guys ever rotated low profile directional tires and stock rims on a modern corvette you big dummies!!! Thank God they didn't break anything.
Also I recall special weights attached along the center of the outside rim. And now that most rims house tire pressure sensors I wonder if engineers take that into consideration by pre balancing during rim Manufacturing or attach permanent weight that remains with life of rim.
The 16" wheels on 3rd generation Camaros and IROCs had different offsets front to rear. You had to mark Left front, Left rear tire then break them down and rotate the tires while leaving the wheels where they started. 16" tires were a big deal in the 80s. Upwards of $125 each. They also had 44PSI max air when most tires were 35. Aggressive driving, improper balance, low air, and failure to rotate every 3500-5000 miles resulted in ppl getting 20K miles out of a high dollar tire for the time. They also "cupped out" "rolled off the outside tread in hard cornering and were an all around bitch to fuck with. So I bought one! Cuz when u got them T-tops out hanging turns, smoking Dat killer, with the Alpine bumping 2-10s fuck it. If u don't understand buy a Prius. Also if you want to balance any tire correctly balance it ON THE CAR, dynamically. Any old school Tire Men remember?
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1972-2020 RIP my 87 Formula 350, 92 RS, 82 TA, 77MC, 90S10, 78 Cutlass and believe it or not an 84 1000VFR Interceptor that I rebuilt.
I have put more F and G bodies in the junkyard than cash for clunkers.
Very useful information, unfortunately such service is unavailable where I live.
It's actually the only way and the correct way to actually fully balance a perfect Tire Road force is the only way
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Is this service available at any tire shop? Or do i have to find a special shop to fix this issue?
I installed vrand new tires. Balanced them. Did an alighment. Still got vibration noticeable at 50 mph or more. I need to fix this issue.
Any shops in northern new jersey?
Can you resolve this problems also if you trim the tire tho smooth or is this problem inside the tire?
Same as motorcycle tires?? Can fix the tires?
God bless whoever made this video
I’m the uk… where do I get this and how do I ask for it
thank you sir , lesson learnt . Never buy used tires again , just bought a set of Toyo A/T for my truck like new for half price. Too good to be true ? I guess it is . No issues with stock tires but with this set I'm visiting my local tire shop twice a year and still vibration in my steering wheel
It can happen with new tires also
As most aggressive tires wear the balance will tend to go out over time due to wear. Rotate and balance is usually recommended at least every oil change as i do to my vehicle even with regular street tires
i had steering wheel vibrations around 55 mph .. and MUCH WORSE around 65 mph ...
Took my front tires to get balanced, 5 different shops kept telling me my wheels and tires were fine.
Come to find out my REAR tires were jacked and had flat spots on them ....
@@m.c.8877 um .... did you not read my post ?
I have exactly that problem, brand new tires,they balance, but the vibration persists, I live in Tucson Az, at what place I need to bring my car to complete the tires balance?
We have a Hunter RoadForce locator here: www.hunter.com/gsp9700
Have 2001 Toyota Avalon, replaced the fron suspension, over last 6 months, from sway bar links, inner and outter tie rods, ball joint, upper and lower control arms, brakes, rotors,& pads, front and back brakes, & shocks& struts. & 4 new tires,, & cars tires are always going outta balance, :not sure y,
What u think???
the wheels themselves?
The wheels or tires
Well how do you have this done with hub centric wheel spacers if the wheel needs to come off?
well my hub rings stay on either the wheel on the hub just depends what it wants to stick to that day. although i should check if theyre still there ive had work done on my car since putting them on so maybe the retards at bartels auto service took em off
What happen if you're tires are Belus but the car still vibrate
I have panther wheels. They vibrate at 55 mph plus. I have had them balanced 5 times all at different places. If I put the stock wheels back on no vibration. Is this form of balancing necessary? I'm almost out of options. No suspension issues new rotors.
It is certainly possible that these assemblies are suffering from one of the conditions that can be detected with a Road Force balancer: excessive rim runout, a tire that didn’t seat correctly, or a tire with excessive Road Force. These things can’t be detected with traditional balancers so I would certainly try a Hunter Road Force balancer if you haven't already. Lastly, you may need to contact the wheel manufacture if you believe the wheel is the source of the issue. Find a Road Force balancer here: www.hunter.com/gsp9700
No you to install hub center adapters
I had vibrations and shaking from 120+ km/h with aluminum and steel rims, different tires. I bought new good year tires and same thing. All balanced. Vibrations are the same at same speeds. Any suggestions?
bent axle
Stabiliser bars was my problem
I have tired to contact Mr. Randy Nix in Florence and Mr. Bateman in Gurley, Alabama. I need help!! Is there a number to call to get assistance in finding a dealer in my area who specializes in and uses the Hunter Road Force Elite System? Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi, thanks for the question and apologies for the lack of feedback. We have a equipment locator right here: www.hunter.com/find-equipment/
Very nice , video should be linger
I have tried this road force machine at discount tire and still it vibrates above 60 mph. Taken it back to rebalance, changed out new tires for another brand, even took the car to the mechanics to verify front was still good, even purchased new rims. What or where can I turn to for a solution. 2k into wheels still vibrates
Check CV axles
F*ck mate. Let me know if you find a solution.
Could be hub bearings ,
Warped wheel hubs
What was the issue?
Is it possible to balance 11" wheels with slick tires this way, like my electric scooter wheels?
11" wheels can be balanced with the proper balancer and adaptors, but we cannot measure Road Force on them.
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Just got tips, balance sand inside the tire. Will try it out soon.
Is there any locations in las vegas?
Hello. Hunter has a "Locate a Balancer" link on our page here: www.hunter.com/wheel-balancers/road-force-elite. Enter your zip code and it lists any dealer that uses a Hunter Road Force® machine.
We have this machine at our shop. I bought some cheaper tires and am having issues even after balancing. Unsure if it's related to wheels
Hi Mike, you local Hunter representatives would be the best folks to reach out to about balancer operation. You can find your local representatives by visiting www.hunter.com/contact and entering your postal code. Then you can select your which representatives you would like to send a message to and submit your questions directly to your local team members.
@@HunterLearningChannel Appears to have been a operator error as there were globs of grease on the insides of the wheels they didnt clean off before balancing. Thanks.
Does Discount or Big o have these machines?
Hello, there is a good chance they may have. Our website features an equipment locator, please feel free to search your zip code: www.hunter.com/find-equipment/? and apologies for the late reply! Thank you.
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Is there a NY location? I might have stiff spot with struts causing variation
Find a shop here: www.hunter.com/gsp9700
I bought my car off dealer, new with after market 20X8 Valiente wheels and it has had a slight vibration since 2011. I have changed my wheels to Mazzis 20X8.5 recently and the vibration is still there, stronger and more annoying. Of course, the wheel shop where I bought my wheels does not want to hear it. Anyway of objectively checking for wheel unevenness, which i believe the problem lies within the wheels and not the tires per se.
Warped rotors
Hector Ramirez what do you mean by that ?
@@sandiegonative6471 not Hector but warped rotors are brake rotors that warp when a hot rotor gets in water while hot. Some rotors warp.
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20” rims on a car that’s probably not even designed for that car ! All cars have different offsets and different rim sizes specified by manufacturer as well as tyres sizes all need a specified tyre profile
Does anybody know of a shop in Texas around the dallas area that has this machine?
most likely the dealer of your vehicle
year old, but most discount tires have one
How much is that machine I am from philippines
Hi Warren. Thank you for your interest. Please reach out to Avtar Singh, Hunter’s Region Manager for the Philippines at asingh@hunter.com. You can also reach out to Autoreach Company, a Hunter distributor in the Philippines by phone at +632 553-0753.
Or just NEW tires 🤷🏽♂️
Basically, if your car has tires, you're fucked
Haha! Yeah seems that when you start having these issues you never really get rid of it. The vibrations claim a space in your brain
In other words it’s the shitty tire tech’s fault.
Not all balance machines have road force. And there is alot more that can cause steering wheel vibration than just out of balance tires. For example bad CV axles, bad wheel bearings, front end out of alignment, or even bad struts or balljoints/tie rods.